Clubbing Price Hike: ITM gets the promoter’s perspective

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Venues around Australia are about to have to pay a whole lot more for the right to play recorded music, and not surprisingly dance music promoters around the country are more than a little concerned about being hit with such a massive rise. As reported on inthemix HERE, a ruling made by the Copyright Tribunal of Australia will see fees paid by venues that play recorded music rise from the former flat rate of seven cents per patron, per song. Clubs will now pay a licence fee of $1.05 a person based on the club’s capacity, which means that a venue which holds 1,000 patrons will pay $1,050, even if the club is only half full. The rate paid by dance party organisers will also rise from 20 cents to $3.07 cents per person.

Not surprisingly, dance music promoters around the country have expressed concerns over being slugged with such a hefty rate rise. First things first, will any of this money actually end up filtering down to the producers who are making dance music in Australia? Melbourne promoter Richie McNeil from Hardware, one of Australia’s leading promoters, doesn’t seem to think so. “I’ve had a record label for many years, and the way the money is distributed, none of it really gets back to the appropriate people anyway.”

He claims a lot of it is absorbed in administration fees of organisations like APRA (Australasian Performing Right Association) and AMCOS (Australasian Mechanical Copyright Owners Society), some is never actually claimed by the musicians themselves and further still, unless a DJ is especially vigilant about submitting a playlist after a gig then it’s difficult to determine what music is played at a nightclub on any given evening. The end result being that the money doesn’t go where it should.

“I’m all for supporting Australian music, but the problem is that people receive money for their music just because they’re registered with APRA,” he says. “If you look at the list of labels that are represented by organisations like that then there’s barely even one label on there that actually releases the sort of music that gets played at our events.

“If the money was legitimately going to the artists that are being played at our events then I’d be happy with it, but I know that only around 10-15 per cent of that money actually reaches them.”

Richie says it will definitely impact the events put on by his company, particularly when it comes to the smaller, more underground parties where punter patronage is not necessarily guaranteed. “There’s those borderline gigs that you do where you don’t make much money but you’re doing it to support an artist or a particular style of music,” he says. “There’s probably four or five of those gigs a year that we do with borderline margins that we’d probably just end up not bothering with anymore. If you’ve gotta go from paying APRA $500 to $2,500 then it’s just ridiculous.”

The biggest cries of injustice are being made over the fact that the ruling is slugging the exact people who are helping break new dance music; the DJs, who offer exposure to up-and-coming producers. “If it wasn’t for club play then this music wouldn’t be getting exposed in the first place,” says Richie. “If you look at the ARIA Club Charts and then look a couple of weeks later at what’s in the Top 40, then you’ll see that it’s the clubs that are generating the initial interest and groundswell that helps these tracks chart. If it wasn’t for these events playing their music then it probably wouldn’t break in the first place, because radio stations won’t play it until that initial buzz is created.

“Clubs, dance parties and festivals are an integral and key part of record label’s strategies to get their music to cross over to the mainstream, which is where they make their real money. This is the frustrating thing, they want to burn the people that are basically trying to help them promote the music in the first place.”

For Tim Hardaker, National Editor of inthemix, the aspect of the ruling that needs to be considered closest is that clubs will be charged according to capacity of the venue, rather than how many people are actually inside. He claims it demonstrates a lack of understanding of how club culture operates. “The patrons at a club will fluctuate pretty wildly from week to week. It could be a particular DJ or the end of uni and the club will be packed. And then it could be raining and the club will have 15 people inside,” he said in an interview with the Sydney Morning Herald.

“I don’t know whether it will force them to shut down but… within the nightclub culture there is a tendency to go to two or three nightclubs, whereas now you might only go to one club. The punters are price sensitive, they are university students and people who have just entered the workforce. The margins between profit and loss are so fine already.”

But not everyone is labeling it as all doom and gloom. John Wall from Fuzzy in Sydney says that he takes issue more with the steepness of the rate rise, rather than the fact that it’s gone up in the first place. “I never had any argument with the fact that producers should get paid for their work, but I think that the price rise is a lot. It’s big enough to have a noticeable impact on how competitive DJing is when compared to other forms of entertainment out there.”

And John believes DJing has already taken a hit as far as popularity goes. While ten years ago punters may have been more excited about seeing a DJ play than a rock band, it seems they’re getting more excited about seeing the live acts these days. “When you get an event as big as Field Day the amount comes to something like $75,000, which is a pretty big incentive to favour live acts over DJs. And if it has a negative effect on how many DJs are getting booked and how many dance events are held, then obviously it can also have a corresponding negative effect on the promotion of dance music that happens in that context.”

Looking beyond the obvious impacts the ruling will have, there are other factors to take into consideration. For instance, what about organisations like Mardi Gras who operate in a non-for-profit fashion? They put on the world renowned gay and lesbian parade and associated dance party every year in Sydney, and they’ll be slugged in a massive way because of the scale of their events. But as Mardi Gras chairman Marcus Bourget argues, they’ve got little means of making that money back.

“We’re a not for profit organisation, but unfortunately we won’t be able to get an exemption for this. For a 10,000 person party that means it’s an extra $30,000 that we’ll have to cover. It means juggling to keep ticket prices competitive but also provide the production values that people want. We don’t get opportunities like other promoters to make that revenue back. For instance, our coat check is run by a charity, so we don’t get any of that money.”

What does the PPCA have to say?

Looking to the official statement made by the Phonographic Performance Company of Australia (PPCA) who won its legal battle yesterday, board member Paul Christie claimed that, “An increase in these tariffs is long overdue and will help compensate artists who create the product which is the foundation of the nightclub and dance party industries. Artists are entitled to a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s work and this will go some way towards compensating us for our creative output.”

Another board member Lindy Morrison emphasised the impact decision will have on making music a sustainable career choice. “... Many of our recording artists have very little finance to fall back on as they grow older,” she says. “In my experience the community recognises that musicians have been given a poor deal and that’s why these tariffs are important. Music bestows a cultural bond between us all and artists should be valued for this.”

But both statements were taken from board members with a background in rock music – Paul Christie is a musician for Mondo Rock and Lindy Morrison is the former drummer for the Go-Betweens. With the agendas of the organisation’s being delivered from such a perspective, it makes you wonder exactly how much this decision was tailored to Australian dance music and nightclub culture, and whether it takes into account the different dynamics that are involved in both DJing and dance music production.

There’s evidence that some considerations were left out of the Tribunal’s ruling. For instance, the emphasis on a role of a DJ in creating the vibe of an evening. “Leading DJs earn substantial sums for their services,” the ruling says. “Good DJs work with sound recordings with great creativity to entertain the crowd and produce the experience at the nightclub. However, no one would pay anything to see a DJ without the sound recordings.” What this fails to consider is that many dance music producers use DJing as a way of promoting their music productions, and that DJing and music creation go hand in hand in a great deal of cases.

But the ruling does take into account the fact that in many cases, nightclub promotion can be a rough business. Looking at Sydney’s Home Nightclub as a case study, it showed that for about 90 per cent of the time the venue is at about 50 per cent below capacity. But this concession is at odds with the Tribunal’s decision to charge the rates depending on the venue’s capacity rather than the amount of people through the door on any specific evening, which means a promoter will get slugged with the same fees regardless of whether they pack the venue out or the night is a total bomb.

The Tribunal does concede that the ruling could have some fairly hefty financial consequences, looking again at Home Nightclub. “The fee payable in respect of Home Nightclub would be in excess of $480,000 per annum. That sum would exceed the net profit derived by Home for the financial year ended 30 June 2005. The proprietor of Home asserts that it would have no option but to transform the present venue into a big hotel with background music.”

But one of the main affirmations of the ruling is that even though Australian nightclubs may not be able to afford the price hikes, that’s no reason that those who are producing the music should be denied the payment that they are due. “If it be the fact that the right to play recorded music has the value claimed by the Society, the fact that many nightclubs presently operating cannot afford to pay for that privilege is not a reason for them to be subsidised by those whom the Society represents.”

What do you think? Take a look at the ruling yourself by clicking HERE or discuss it in the forums HERE.

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djbricksta

djbricksta said on the 11th Jul, 2007

This is rubbish. Ive been talking about this with another DJ and you just wonder why they dont listen to figureheads in industry...

DJSketch

DJSketch said on the 11th Jul, 2007

I had this discussion very recently. as a promoter, it will hurt the local music scene. as aproducer, i doubt we'll see any of the money, and as a DJ, if clubs move towards live bands, that's going to do us no good either.

Spekman

Spekman said on the 11th Jul, 2007

This isn't fair!!! The people who changed this obviously are only thinking of live acts and not DJ's or the dance music scene... Can't something be done to shake this up a bit??? A petition or something haha??

milkcrate

milkcrate said on the 11th Jul, 2007

Whats next? they will start charge advertising companies and TV stations extra fee for playing advertising as there are people behind it that make it ... and car industry in its place should charge money from type manufactures for them to keep they whee

benii

benii said on the 11th Jul, 2007

I can understand from their point of view but! maybe an increase up to $1 over a 10 year period but not in one hit, that is just plain greedy! To increase by 15 times the current amount is rediculous. Imagine if petrol went up that much from $1.30 ltr

RC55

RC55 said on the 11th Jul, 2007

I Hate Politicians

DJ GeRmAn

DJ GeRmAn said on the 12th Jul, 2007

Absolute rubbish, this is goning to hurt badly

Rob Flaye

Rob Flaye said on the 12th Jul, 2007

Just wondering whether any band that 'covers' another band also has to pay these fees? A massive overeaction by the big music labels. I feel for artists and yes they should get a greater share but the big record labels kept CD prices so high for so long.

skully

skully said on the 12th Jul, 2007

Fabulous article. A very complicated issue - i understand it from all sides... I'm not sure what the answer is.

benii

benii said on the 12th Jul, 2007

yeh how many of the songs that we here out are actually on massive labels...

Telegram Sam

Telegram Sam said on the 12th Jul, 2007

Maybe the clubs and promoters who are going to be hurt like this could help start a campaign against the ruling by running some benefit nights. The increase is way too high and the rules and definitions are plainly unfair. IT should not be up to the tri

Deadlier_DaZ

Deadlier_DaZ said on the 12th Jul, 2007

Yeah, i can understand the reason for it, but such a jump in fees is discusting. Tim makes a good point about the majority of goers being uni students and ppl new to the work force, as in most cases ppl that will be able to afford the door prices will alr

DJ_LG

DJ_LG said on the 12th Jul, 2007

Is there any talk of an appeal? Does the dance industry think this is the end or can we make a change? It seems, like all mainstream commercial music that its all about the money. Why should those artist that have their tracks registered with APRA benefit

youngman

youngman said on the 12th Jul, 2007

If this ruling means that promoters find it more difficult to put on nights, then LESS music will be played overall meaning LESS income for the artists the ruling claims to support. Surely this is counter-productive.

B-Radikal

B-Radikal said on the 12th Jul, 2007

This will close the club i work in for sure...not good.

Dj Anthrax

Dj Anthrax said on the 12th Jul, 2007

One question.....IF these price hikes end up reducing the amount of club nights around sydney which they no doubtebly will. What medium are these artists going to have to show people there music? Biting the hand that feeds you much?

AnaisNet

AnaisNet said on the 12th Jul, 2007

Despite Mr McNeil's completely understandable and passionate view on the topic - he incorrectly refers on a number of occasions to APRA, which (as I understand) is a completely different animal. The beast in this case is the PPCA, not APRA.

r_y_z_e_r

r_y_z_e_r said on the 12th Jul, 2007

How many djs do you know that submit a playlist at the end of their set, how is this extra money going to filter back to the artists that created it. It paints a funny picture though.. the next party you attend being raided by accountants with clickers

rjfolch

rjfolch said on the 12th Jul, 2007

In my opinion ; get involved so you don't get screwed.

minimimi

minimimi said on the 12th Jul, 2007

It's stupidity like this thst makes you lose your faith in humanity. I hope there's a loophole somewhere...

Dunpo_Rob

Dunpo_Rob said on the 12th Jul, 2007

mmmm..... It would make sense if the price hike was in favour of the Artist who wrote/scored the music, but that varies on the type of contract held with the record company. Anyways, it was inevitable. I actually attended this film night @ Sydney Uni that

vintage yahtzee

vintage yahtzee said on the 12th Jul, 2007

This is outrageous. Is there anything we can do?

DJ GeRmAn

DJ GeRmAn said on the 12th Jul, 2007

Now I'm less motivated to put on events anymore :(

fauce

fauce said on the 12th Jul, 2007

i doubt anyone will bother opening on nights when they are not going to be full. Kiss any clubs being open on thursdays or wednesdays!! Also - I called the PPCA and most clubs (according to their license) cannot substitute bands for Djs so they do not ne

lipton

lipton said on the 12th Jul, 2007

where is the money going?

Kanomc

Kanomc said on the 12th Jul, 2007

This is so sad. I've been arranging for my own club night to begin and it is things like this that make it so difficult to begin. I agree producers should be paid for the great music they make, but is the best way to do it by making the clubs their music

TroyShaun

TroyShaun said on the 12th Jul, 2007

0 of home nightclubs annual profit... did they even look into sustainability - it obviously wasn't well thought out by them. In the end none of this money goes to the actual producers anyway, the whole thing is just rediculous really i hope someone do

somevideodude

somevideodude said on the 12th Jul, 2007

As a club manager, this is scary stuff, The AHA (Australian hotels association) has been fighting this in the courts for about a year. I am also a VJ and we all share our visuals as a community, but none of us really collect any royaltiys for there usage.

iOTA

iOTA said on the 12th Jul, 2007

arnt there any other music societys and associations music promoters can use, make up there own rules that keep it the same?

Marky

Marky said on the 13th Jul, 2007

This feels like a desperate grab by record labels who are struggling under the impact of 'mp-free' music download culture. These labels are not getting the money through music sales like they once were, so they're now trying to find other ways to get that

replicant

replicant said on the 13th Jul, 2007

Just another exhibition of a complete lack of consideration of cause and effect. The negative flow on effects of this decision in relation to job loss within the nightclub industry will far out way the positive effects of additional revenue to the artists

exceeder

exceeder said on the 13th Jul, 2007

This is so ridiculous...clubs are going to have to cut back on promoters, dj's, bar staff, cleaners etc. What a selfish and inconsiderate decision against the little guy who this is really going to affect - the people going to clubs.

luvpig

luvpig said on the 15th Jul, 2007

"Artists are entitled to a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s work and this will go some way towards compensating us for our creative output." how is that Paul Christie? exactly what is the framework within which an artist on an independant label will

Gyrus

Gyrus said on the 15th Jul, 2007

This is absolute bullshit!!! Here's an idea, lets take a representative from the FUCKRA or whatever and take them to Home on a friday and write down what (if any) of the songs played at their venue come from the artists they represent. Grrrrrrrrr!!!

anders8b

anders8b said on the 17th Jul, 2007

damn, this is a pain in the ass! this situation should have been avoided... they should have ramped the prices up gradually starting when napster died! hindsight is a wonderful thing....

Ken Knott

Ken Knott said on the 19th Jul, 2007

The digital revolution hit the majors hard and they're just trying to get their own back any way they can. No matter how detrimental it is to the industry. The reality is that none of this money will make it back to the artists that are producing the musi

PaulHamon

PaulHamon said on the 19th Jul, 2007

No-one willl get there music played if no venues can afford to open... I personally think after 15 years of running and promoting nightclubs and events that 1/10 venues can afford these fees and 1/10 punter will be willing to pay x3 the price for entry t

djonnit

djonnit said on the 9th Aug, 2007

I see more sense in contracting aids than this cods-walop. It's hard enough to keep a party going alone without having to fork out more $. How about we get rid of the whole scene and just watch Idol- yeah right!

beegurl

beegurl said on the 15th Nov, 2007

Everyone needs to send their complaints here: complaints.mail@ppca.com.au

djdavewin

djdavewin said on the 15th Nov, 2007

Im all for it! I hope they do initiate the plan. Its ONLY fair for the producer who sits down everyday and works his life away while people enjoy his production BUT give praise to the mediocre DJ. It'd be a TOTALLY different story if all the dj's produced