Shall age weary dance music's live legends?

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In 2004, inthemix asked Maxi Jazz what he made of the rumours that Faithless were about to call it a day. “I think we are,” he said. “You know, the touring is so devastating to your life; you’ve got nothing else to do except be on a bus, in a hotel room, in an airport, or on-stage.”

As it turns out, it took another seven years, two albums and countless airport lounges for Faithless to truly feel its work was done. By midway through 2011, the group’s “joyful, exhilarating and empowering” run will be over.

While Faithless was a relatively rare visitor to Australia (the band’s 2002 visit was cancelled after Maxi Jazz was injured in a car accident), they belonged to an elite club of iconic live dance acts. In the decade that inthemix has existed, six blockbuster headliners have loomed large on festival line-ups here. Leaving aside the unattainable Daft Punk, the ‘big six’ would arguably be Faithless, the Chemical Brothers, Underworld, Groove Armada, Basement Jaxx and The Prodigy.

From the Boiler Room at Big Day Out to Two Tribes to Summadayze to Future Music Festival, these live shows have been the benchmark. In ten years, Basement Jaxx have headlined six Australian festivals, Groove Armada five, the Chemical Brothers four, and The Prodigy and Underworld three a-piece – with standalone tours and DJ jaunts scattered between.

With Faithless announcing its retirement and Groove Armada returning to their DJ roots, the big six is now down to four. So, 11 years after the Chemical Brothers and Basement Jaxx blew the roof off the Boiler Room, is dance music’s major league shifting?

“We’re getting to the stage where headline acts are running out,” mused Future Entertainment’s Mark James when inthemix quizzed him on the topic last year. “You’ve got your Chemical Brothers, Prodigy, Groove Armada, Basement Jaxx…you sort of run out after that in our genres. There are a lot of indie-electro live acts coming up, but a guy on a computer waving a balloon around isn’t really enough.”

It’s no mystery why these live legends have endured. The likes of Underworld and The Prodigy first visited Australia as heroes of the jilted generation, propelled by now-classic albums. None of these acts have escaped criticism – or worse, indifference – to some of their more recent work. However, it’s the combination of legacy, time-honoured tunes and a well-oiled live show that keeps us coming back. With those credentials, there’s also a budget to back it.

“As much as there’s a resurgence of bands like Orbital and Leftfield, in our world there aren’t that many other artists who have the ability to build live shows like that,” reasons Future’s Brett Robinson. “You’ve got to have a massive audience before you can start to spend money on shows like that.”

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djbricksta

djbricksta said on the 23rd Mar, 2011

I agree, great feature!

MoRpH

MoRpH said on the 23rd Mar, 2011

Good talking points, nicely written. As for production there is talent in this country that is utilizing cutting edge production (vision/lighting/etc) and artists capabale of producing such shows. Now we just need enough ppl supporting it.

Anyone that saw the Plastikman show @ FMF this year would have had their minds blown, combine that sort of show with the engery of live performers (not to say Richie isn't I just mean more upfront showmen) and you've got a winner.

Remember years ago all these headline acts weren't touring these amazing productions, they have had to build them with other artists (LDs, VJs, designers, musicians, etc) to keep things fresh and new, and to stay ahead of the pack.

narcism

narcism said on the 24th Mar, 2011

going to miss faithless :(

thesuntoucher

thesuntoucher said on the 24th Mar, 2011

More features like this please.

cizza

cizza said on the 24th Mar, 2011

I feel so blessed to have seen Faithless at GV, great memories to remember them by. Dont care what anyone says, the likes of Deadmeows will never compare to these legends.

As long as festivals keep the kids happy with Ke$ha and the Stafford Brothers we can continue to see acts like Hawtin brought out.

mjm_fm

mjm_fm said on the 24th Mar, 2011

great read. I really can't think of anyone new or newish on the scene who look to rival the scale of these top 6. While Magnetic Man or Deadmau5 are popular, I think their genre's are too niche.

daverh

daverh said on the 24th Mar, 2011

Very well written, JT. I really don't know how long these guys can keep going. Prodigy have got to be feeling the sciatica set in, right?

Larkin90

Larkin90 said on the 24th Mar, 2011

I know I might cop shit for this but the Bloody Beetroots live show is pretty tight

Ruthykins

Ruthykins said on the 24th Mar, 2011

awesome read Jack!

"but a guy on a computer waving a balloon around isn%u2019t really enough" - so true

Dexter Ramone

Dexter Ramone said on the 24th Mar, 2011

I'd agree with the beetroots. If Justice were a bit more prolific and got out here a tad more often they could push up a level too

daverh

daverh said on the 24th Mar, 2011

Good point on Justice, Mark. It's also interesting to note that this big six are all British acts. Perhaps the new wave will come from a different pool.

polite_society

polite_society said on the 24th Mar, 2011

There are still plenty of live electronic/dance acts out there other than the ones mentioned.

Depeche Mode, The Knife/Fever Ray, Ryoksopp, Goose, Does It Offend You, Yeah?, Death From Above 1979, Infected Mushroom, Trentmoller, Plastikman, Japanese Popstars, Crystal Castles, Gary Numan, Ladytron, Pivot, Ratatat, The Faint, Walter Meego, Yeasayer, Hot Chip, Autokratz, Delphic, Late of the Pier, NIN/HTDA/Reznor... and even closer to home you have The Presets, Cut Copy, Midnight Juggernauts, Art vs Science.

I bet there are plenty more besides, and this of course isn't getting into some of the more obscure electronic genres which i find tend to have a higher percentage of live acts than the standard dance genres.

JackT

JackT said on the 24th Mar, 2011

Totally, there are MANY great live acts, I was just looking at the ones who've been the most consistent headliners here for the decade inthemix has been around.

sarahanne

sarahanne said on the 24th Mar, 2011

nice JackT - very good feature!

robbz_69

robbz_69 said on the 24th Mar, 2011

how could he say deadmau5 and bloody magnetic man and not say PENDULUM!!!

they sold out the horden last time they were here, pretty sure they're the closest we have to a crossover dance act that could very well come close to headlining in a few years.

their fan base will get to that point no doubt!

daverh

daverh said on the 24th Mar, 2011

Pendulum showed their pulling power on the FMF tour, most definitely.

DJ Rushby

DJ Rushby said on the 24th Mar, 2011

Crystal Method and LCD Soundsystem. Just because they are from the usa doesn't mean they don't count :P

JackT

JackT said on the 24th Mar, 2011

Come to think of it, if I was rewriting this feature I would've included a paragraph on Pendulum - drew such frenzied crowds at FMF and are headlining one day of South West Four in London this summer, the other day is Underworld. That's a huge deal!

funkdupkat

funkdupkat said on the 24th Mar, 2011

what about the happy mondays always remember the show at KU 1990 classic.....

wherescarmin

wherescarmin said on the 24th Mar, 2011

as soon as i read the title i knew deadmau5 would feature somewhere,
nice article

Digitalgrub

Digitalgrub said on the 24th Mar, 2011

I'd say that Pendulum are definetly up there with the 'big 6' now and do an awesome live show. The other thing you have to rememeber with these older acts is that all do a range of styles, that's not quite breaks, trance, house, techno, rave etc, but a bit of each. Acts like Deadmau5 and Justice although cool (and when you think about it, the Chems also stand behind computers/synths) are only in the house/electro genres. You can't be a massive dance act only playing one style.

JackT

JackT said on the 25th Mar, 2011

Digitalgrub makes some sagely points

shaway

shaway said on the 25th Mar, 2011

great article, i think justice as well could potentially pull off something that could take their live show to another level and with boys noize putting together a live show we could see a lot live stuff emerging

GoodLove

GoodLove said on the 25th Mar, 2011

That said, it%u2019s hard to imagine a DJ set %u2013 however tricked-up %u2013 ever matching the intensity of two hours from the Prodigy.

Take note Zimmerman.

Dr Bones

Dr Bones said on the 25th Mar, 2011

Awesome article, dude.

In regards to some of the responses, Justice and Deadmaus? Really? Deadmaus being described as "niche"?

You're all going to call me a hater, but I'm not saying this because Justice and Deadmaus (and the Bloody Beatroots) aren't my cup of tea; I'm saying it because even if they were, they could never, not in a million years, stack up to the likes of the live show Daft Punk/Prodigy/Faithless are capable of putting on. And let's be honest, comparably to the music that these acts make to the music that "the big six" make, the six named here are worlds ahead, and will remain as such.

thomas_c_williams

thomas_c_williams said on the 25th Mar, 2011

pendulum live? surely they must be in the mix of up and comers with the potential to headline live?

cozza147

cozza147 said on the 25th Mar, 2011

Great Article
Two live acts defintely in my top 5 performances seen would have to be Moby and Massive Attack. Surprised neither has had a mention

Dr Bones

Dr Bones said on the 25th Mar, 2011

^^ Fucking good call man, especially on the Massive Attack tip.

davidhes

davidhes said on the 25th Mar, 2011

Great feature and sad to realise that there really isn't anyone up and coming to take over the place left by the greats like faithless.

Dr Bones

Dr Bones said on the 25th Mar, 2011

Big fucking shoes to fill I guess.

beebop

beebop said on the 25th Mar, 2011

no disrepect to pendulum....but i really dont think you can put them up there with the top 6 mentioned in this article. they are not in the same realm of awesome and i dont see them producing music that will still be drawing massive crowds 20 years down the track.

great read though.

alistairrrr

alistairrrr said on the 25th Mar, 2011

inthemix spoke to future entertainments MARK JAMES like I havn't read that 1,000 times

chrispyland7

chrispyland7 said on the 26th Mar, 2011

so i'm gonna go with Larkin90 on this one. there's a lot of haters out there, but The Bloody Beetroots DC77 live show is pretty awesome! and u gotta give em time to perfect it too. only gonna get better! the music they play is loud and in your face and keeps ur blood pumping for however long u might be able to handle it! bit difficult for MOST aussies to judge the Deadmau5 live show as its yet to hit our shores. give it a month and ur mind may be changed!

ezza69

ezza69 said on the 26th Mar, 2011

I dont think it's only about their show, I think it's more about the tracks and albums they release. All of the top 6 Daft Punk have made timeless tracks that you can listen too in another 10 years and will still be awesome

Pendulum, Deadmouse, Beetroots, Justice etc etc etc etc all make disposable tracks that will dated and forgotten in a couple of years

beragh

beragh said on the 27th Mar, 2011

I think pendulum was really going somewhere a few years ago.. I saw them live (band set) at BDO in 09 I think, and that was a bit disappointing, then the in silico album came out and to me they'd lost it, I'm not saying they were bad, but personally that genre defining edge had gone.. they'd amalgamated drum and bass with pop in a (crude) sentence. Hopeful for the future, they have it in them

DJ_LG

DJ_LG said on the 27th Mar, 2011

big 6? What a load of toss
what about Kesha?

ry_an

ry_an said on the 27th Mar, 2011

i know its a long shot, but the shapeshifter boys always put on one of the best shows going round!... behind prodigy and the chem brothers, they are close to my fav live act.. 'niche' i know, but they're entertaining, eclectic and talanted!... aus tour is in order again soon me things..would LOVE to see them headline somewhere.....!!!

JackT

JackT said on the 28th Mar, 2011

^^^ Such a seriously good live act

DHindahouse

DHindahouse said on the 28th Mar, 2011

and i've been lucky enough to see them all.

daverh

daverh said on the 29th Mar, 2011

What about Art vs Science?

(*Dodges bottle*)

austraboy

austraboy said on the 29th Mar, 2011

There's less focus these days on "pieces of music" as such and more focus on producing quick "tunes"...

The likes of Barbera Steisand is what modern electronic dance music is coming to.

The talent of people like Liam Howlett, Tom Rolands, and Ed Simmons is just not allowed to come through any more. Production skill is just not as appreciated any more because so many people have access to the tools to create music and hence we are flooded with a lot more generic rubbish.

Dr Bones

Dr Bones said on the 29th Mar, 2011



Fucking AMAZING live act/music.

DHindahouse

DHindahouse said on the 29th Mar, 2011

these were guys who made tracks but it was always part of the bigger picture, ie, the context of an album, and the progression from album to album, now its all about a quick buck, trying to get famous in 6 months and make lots of frikkin money at the expense of any artistic integrity.

CREATER

CREATER said on the 29th Mar, 2011

There's less focus these days on "pieces of music" as such and more focus on producing quick "tunes"...

The likes of Barbera Steisand is what modern electronic dance music is coming to.

The talent of people like Liam Howlett, Tom Rolands, and Ed Simmons is just not allowed to come through any more. Production skill is just not as appreciated any more because so many people have access to the tools to create music and hence we are flooded with a lot more generic rubbish.

Well said. I always thought that way too, like there wasnt much depth to the new stuff coming out and just sounds like you've heard it somewhere before....

Best article I've read on this site. Having Art Vs Science supporting the Chemical Brothers was like seeing 2 complete contrasts.

System_J

System_J said on the 30th Mar, 2011

What about Art vs Science?

(*Dodges bottle*)

*Throws another one*

Critical hit!

Great feature ITM, keep them coming.

Two left feet

Two left feet said on the 30th Mar, 2011

"There are a lot of indie-electro live acts coming up, but a guy on a computer waving a balloon around isn%u2019t really enough.%u201D

Sums up Creamfields this year.

rubbishtalk

rubbishtalk said on the 4th Apr, 2011

Good article but here's my take... no kids buy albums anymore. They just steal singles off the internet. So how can any act get a big following and loyalty like in the old days when everyone just goes from song to song without caring who actually wrote/performed on it?

josh_goods

josh_goods said on the 22nd Feb, 2012

when we stop looking at dj's as producers, or computer wizzes, and more as dj's, then things will change. a dj, like any of the aforementioned live acts, is a musician, an entertainer. these days he is just a spectacle that plays cool tracks... but that will change. as much as i hate swedish house mafia and their method of doing this is completely flawed and contradictory to my point, they are proving this. djing is 20-25 years old at most, and the more people learn and understand it the sooner it too will experience a similar variance of appreciation. some people like faithless for their music, others for their show, others for their image. soon enough EDM will be the same, its certainly getting there.
personally i can't wait to headline festivals as a dj, people coming to see me dj as if a musician, interested to see how i do shit differently. after all, that is why people like live shows, because it is 'different' to listening to it on an ipod.
i dno... we'll get there, but with the current crop of sell outs we're certainly not there yet.

joshforrest

joshforrest said on the 22nd Feb, 2012

One of the best live shows i ever saw was from Apollo 440.... that was the first real gig i went to at the horden and it was amazing..... dual drum kits.... dj's..... guitars.... everything!! And so tight!

Chemicals brothers are still going strong... great new album and live show.... concert film..... headlining creamfields last year..... and it doesnt look like they are slowing down....