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Okay so i had a few people asking me for a really deep house set, so i did warmup last wednesday at the club and recorded it.
It's a little shaky at times, but overall i'm pretty happy with it.
Tracklisting is as follows ...
1. Steppin' Out (Members Only Mix) - Kaskade
2. Vibes Alive - Joey Youngman
3. One Two One Two - Miguel Migs
4. Majik - Hipp-e
5. Surprise Me (nyc late walk mix) - Miss Me
6. End Up Ep - ECB & Oliver Desmet
7. One Thing - Lawnchair Generals
8. Can't Remember - Inland Knights
9. Rocococoa - Dave Barker
10. Tell You Something (something else mix)- Lawnchair Generals
11. All Is Possible - Swirl Peepz
12. Axinia - Bring On Sunshine (Classic Club Mix)
13. Twilite - Blakkat & Tony Hewitt pres The Lewis Twins
14. I Need You Now (dub) - Greenskeepers
15. How Can i?(jt donaldson mix) - Urban Nu Jazz Naturals
you can download this from my new revamped site, http://www.djreal.co.uk .. alternately, if you're too lazy to go there, you can download it directly from http://www.daveclarkit.plus.com/djreal/DjReal%20Live%20@%20Smooth%20Grooves%2007.10.04.mp 3
Mix is approx 57mb and goes for about 64mins
feel free to post opinioms... all constructive criticism welcome
aaah out comes the old 'deep house' thing again :)
I have just finished downloading it.
I will taken listen today and let you know....
wtf is this deep house?? personally i wouldnt dream of classifying kaskade or miguel migs as deeeep, but it might just be me?
soulshine
12-Oct-04, 04:44pm
Deep house is deeeep, thoughtfull, a time to ponder. Downloading now, thanks for sharing
aaah out comes the old 'deep house' thing again :)
Indeed.
And here is where I officially stop giving a fuck and spend more time listening to some...
...music.
silvaside
12-Oct-04, 06:26pm
wtf is this deep house?? personally i wouldnt dream of classifying kaskade or miguel migs as deeeep, but it might just be me?
it's not just you.
NIK-O-LAKI
12-Oct-04, 07:03pm
CHeers DjReal. I've got a few of those tracks on there ... me likes very much 'Inland Knights - Can't remember' ;).
Havik, I like your attitude today.
Personally, i think people should stop worrying about what genre the tracks they're hearing are classified as, and just enjoy it. Thats regarding all music, not just this particular mix.
Listen to it or don't, either way i'm not fussed, but as havik said, stop analysing and start enjoying.
silvaside
12-Oct-04, 09:25pm
its like calling an apple an orange.
It's just all getting a bit too "chicken in the matrix" for me...
...did it really taste like chicken? or was it a spoon of deep house? perhaps a fork-full of techno?
*yawn*
IMO it's music, you either like it or you don't, it shouldn't matter wether you class it as deep house, or wether its deep tech house or wether its tech jazz or whatever the fuck you wanna call it.
As long as it's good it shouldn't matter what its classified as, and no matter what your opinion is, someone else is always gonna have a different opinion, these days i don't think there even is an 'official' classification for artists/track genre's. Everyone's opinion is different.
silvaside
12-Oct-04, 09:56pm
so why class your mix as deeper house :?
spice_of_life
12-Oct-04, 10:27pm
probably because it IS deeper house.. have you listened to it?
good set dude, i like the music very much :) would be great to hear you early on one evening, or late.. woop!
mike
p.s. check my sig ;)
IMO it's music, you either like it or you don't, it shouldn't matter wether you class it as deep house, or wether its deep tech house or wether its tech jazz or whatever the fuck you wanna call it. i completely agree with you, but you're the one who "labelled" this mix as deep.
I thought i'd give it a go, so i d'loaded it and had a listen to about 20-30 mins. At best, in my opinion, its fluffy club house. I would not describe the tracks in the mix as emotionally deep tracks. in my opinion, they are pretty formulaicly structured and easy to mix (ie produced from a dj's point of view, rather than from a musical point of view)
The second mix (into one two) slips quite noticeably, i think the new track may be too fast? The levels and timing of the mix out of the miss me are off as well (the following track needed to be dropped at least 8 bars earlier & the levels come in too lound and drop off too quickly). I kinda stopped listening after that...
All i would like to know is, what exactly makes you feel that the mix is "deep"?
deepness to me comes from the music reflecting the pain, happiness, textures, feeling and moods that all of us as human beings experience on a day to day basis.. to me music that has a real, lingering and touching emotional content is whats deep...
but dude, whatever floats your boat.. it doesn't affect me at all what you play, i couldn't really care less.. but please hammer don't hurt 'em, FLUFFY CLUB HOUSE IS NOT DEEP!
I class this mix as deep house because to ME that is deep house, it's what i've known as deep and if you go to a deep house night in Sydney, you're bound to hear a lot of tracks by these artists, or possibly even some of those tracks.
In the end, you either like it or you don't.
rc1n. The first few mixes were a little sloppy, but either way, i appreciate your honest opinion and constructive criticism.
Everyone's entitled to their own opinions and i'm not here to try and change that.
And mike, thanks for the compliments, glad you enjoyed it. Will download your mix now.
peepyfun
13-Oct-04, 09:09am
Nice mix DJReal. I'm no deep house purist let alone a house expert. It sounds good and thats what matters.
Chinstrokers can go to hell :P
wtf is this deep house?? personally i wouldnt dream of classifying kaskade or miguel migs as deeeep, but it might just be me?so why class your mix as deeper house Honestly, you guys are pathetic.
So DjReal classified his mix as 'deeper house'. Who the F*CK CARES!
So next time, should he post a thread with the title:
'Here are some songs that I have mixed together'
Then he will probably get flamed by some other dickhead saying 'to be classified as a mix, each transition needs to be a 32 bar beatmix minimum'.
I am pretty sure when he said 'all constructive criticism welcome' - he was referring to the actual mix itself - not how he classifies his music.
At least he posted his thread in the 'House Forum' - or let me guess, the tracks are no longer classified as 'house' music?
Man I would love to go out clubbing with you guys. You sound like such fun....
Back to the subject at hand -
DjReal, I thought it was an enjoyable bouncy mix. Good solid basslines to keep a floor moving.
I havent quite finished listening to the set, but at this stage the only pointers I have are:
- Match the levels. Some tracks seem to be coming in alot louder than others.
- The first mix (around the 9min mark) - next time if you need to touch the record/platter - try and touch the one without the melody playing. If you touch the one with just the beat, you wont notice the pitch change as much.
- Not sure why, but the levels dropped quite a few times. This may have been due to the equipment.
Out of curiosity, where was the set played at?
The set was played at my resident night here on the central coast, in Gosford.
Equipment was a bit of a factor, we were using a behringer DJX700 which i am still getting used to using such touchy levels on.
As for fixing the mix, that i had picked up myself when listening back on the set, but i still appreciate your opinions and glad you enjoyed what you've heard so far.
hehe... it's no diss guys. don't get fired up.
but as a music writer, dj and straight up music head, those distinctions are kind of important to me. genre names are a real hassle, but they have their place in allowing people to discuss music. to be of any use, they need to be consistent and well understood.
a few years ago, a bunch of sydney house djs (playing what had been previously labeled names like 'quality house') felt the need to differentiate themselves from the hard house, commercial house and other housey doings. so because deep house was hot at the time, with caldwell and the racket crew ruling, these guys started calling what they do 'deep house'.
it's just annoying because now when you're talking about how deep house does it for you, people are thinking you're having an emotional experience to miguel mig's candy soul or kaskade's soft focus house lite.
Insomniac
13-Oct-04, 11:13am
thanks djreal! i've been looking for a recent deep house set to download, and this may just be it.
i'll let you know what i think :)
soulshine
13-Oct-04, 11:18am
I remember when Hard house would be the likes of Hardfloor and Mr. C kinda DJ sets. Now it has been taken over by that shite euro duff duff rubish (not my taste and i dont mean to offend, i just think it is soul-less.)
Also, wasnt it Mr. C who told the media that the style of house he played was "tech house' just to confuse them, then the media latched on to the term and now it is a genre.
Just goes to show that its all a load of hype and pigeon holeing
soulshine
13-Oct-04, 11:23am
but it does help when browsing huge online record stores ;)
spice_of_life
13-Oct-04, 12:01pm
i completely agree with you, but you're the one who "labelled" this mix as deep.
I thought i'd give it a go, so i d'loaded it and had a listen to about 20-30 mins. At best, in my opinion, its fluffy club house. I would not describe the tracks in the mix as emotionally deep tracks. in my opinion, they are pretty formulaicly structured and easy to mix (ie produced from a dj's point of view, rather than from a musical point of view)
The second mix (into one two) slips quite noticeably, i think the new track may be too fast? The levels and timing of the mix out of the miss me are off as well (the following track needed to be dropped at least 8 bars earlier & the levels come in too lound and drop off too quickly). I kinda stopped listening after that...
All i would like to know is, what exactly makes you feel that the mix is "deep"?
deepness to me comes from the music reflecting the pain, happiness, textures, feeling and moods that all of us as human beings experience on a day to day basis.. to me music that has a real, lingering and touching emotional content is whats deep...
but dude, whatever floats your boat.. it doesn't affect me at all what you play, i couldn't really care less.. but please hammer don't hurt 'em, FLUFFY CLUB HOUSE IS NOT DEEP!
you fuckin chinstroking ****.. dont ever come to my nightclub .. ever!
but it does help when browsing huge online record stores ;)
actually, it doesn't
again every record store classifie's tracks their own way.
I've seen stuff kaskade stuff been classified as everything from, deep house, tech house, funky house, commercial house and someone even classified it as progressive for online record stores.
These days i don't even think half of the producers know what to classify their music as, it's just 'music'
if you know what you like find out what other labels are out there that are pressing that sorta stuff and search by label or artist, rather than genre. It's the only way to find exactly what you're looking for.
SilverStreak
13-Oct-04, 12:08pm
Its kinda like how when 10 people all read the same sentence, yet they all have different opinions of what the sentence actually means.
djswitch
13-Oct-04, 12:10pm
I Love Fluffy Club House
Its So Deeep !!!!
NIK-O-LAKI
13-Oct-04, 12:16pm
you fuckin chinstroking ****.. dont ever come to my nightclub .. ever!You have a nightclub? Cool ;D
As for this debate :boring: .
As for the set, i liked a lot of the tunes, especially the jazzy number at the end. The mixing wasn't great but most people wouldn't notice that. 8)
You have a nightclub? Cool ;D
As for this debate :boring: .
As for the set, i liked a lot of the tunes, especially the jazzy number at the end. The mixing wasn't great but most people wouldn't notice that. 8)
Glad you enjoyed it, a lot of the tunes i played in that set, i had only really played once or twice before. I tend to play a lot more of the US house, a bit more up tempo, but i thought i'd have a crack at doing some warmup type stuff. I do realise the mixing needs more work and thats something i'm constantly working on.
Hopefully next mix i have to offer for you guys will be a bit more solid in both mixing and track selection.
Insomniac
13-Oct-04, 12:31pm
meh in terms of priorities i hold when listening to a set, mixing tightness doesn't really matter....blatant, nasty trainwrecks may not be preferable, but a good selection of choons with average mixing is better than some chinstroking choons and zabiela mixing
my $0.02
spice of life: i'm a jazz head who's been spoilt by the kwality of deepness in perth (big ups to deep city, mr stingah & everyone else for influencing this mindset). I probably would fall asleep and/or die of boredom in "your" club ;)
djreal: massive props for being so open minded, i'm sorry for being a little anal about music but its the only way i know how to progress and improve musically, keep listening to stuff with an open mind and an open heart :)
check out www.danceandsoul.com (especially the mixes by kaye & dean zhou and some of the reviews) for what i (personally) define as deep.
spice_of_life
13-Oct-04, 01:50pm
spice of life: i'm a jazz head who's been spoilt by the kwality of deepness in perth (big ups to deep city, mr stingah & everyone else for influencing this mindset). I probably would fall asleep and/or die of boredom in "your" club ;)maybe, maybe not.. you never never know if you never never go :P .. respect to jazz though, i too enjoy some here and there (with blunts and coffee). i know what your idea of deep is though, and yes, this i guess is the classic deep house which i agree with. it seems that the sydney/nsw area has a different idea on what's deep though.. maybe it's because of the muzza population and the fact that 99% of those gee'd up sick-****s think nik fish is house too. well either way, there's no need to stroke the chin and just enjoy some quailty music at hand :) ..
mike
p.s. i like your sig!
silvaside
13-Oct-04, 02:00pm
I Love Fluffy Club House
Its So Deeep !!!!
lollerskates!
hehe... it's no diss guys. don't get fired up.
but as a music writer, dj and straight up music head, those distinctions are kind of important to me. genre names are a real hassle, but they have their place in allowing people to discuss music. to be of any use, they need to be consistent and well understood.
a few years ago, a bunch of sydney house djs (playing what had been previously labeled names like 'quality house') felt the need to differentiate themselves from the hard house, commercial house and other housey doings. so because deep house was hot at the time, with caldwell and the racket crew ruling, these guys started calling what they do 'deep house'.
it's just annoying because now when you're talking about how deep house does it for you, people are thinking you're having an emotional experience to miguel mig's candy soul or kaskade's soft focus house lite.
amen!
spice_of_life
13-Oct-04, 02:23pm
well maybe thats the case in sydney. if so, you guys got it wrong. it's been mentioned in another thread some time ago that sydneysiders lost track of what deep house really is, and they call kaskade deep. listen to the mix. it's not NOT deep.
anyway, just enjoy the music. in the end, it's still good house music, no matter what style-tag you attach to it.
Insomniac
13-Oct-04, 02:34pm
is illya deep? im a sydneysider who admits to not knowing a huge amount about house but i'd call illya deep...am i wrong? educate me!
in the end, my classification is gonna be different to others on here, and the others on here are gonna have a different opinion to others again it just goes on and on and on and on, in the end, i posted my mix here for people to enjoy or not, if you enjoy it good, if you don't, sorry my music or mixing wasnt to your liking.
But i didnt post this up here to have people criticise myself or others on what their classifcation of tracks/artists should be.
All i wanted to do was offer (my personal opinion) deeper house set for others enjoyment.
So from now on, comments regarding the mix, rather than just my classification of it please.
They dont have to be positive comments. I'm not looking for people to tell me the mix is fantastic when its not, i'm just looking for honest opinions and constructive criticism is all.
is illya deep? im a sydneysider who admits to not knowing a huge amount about house but i'd call illya deep...am i wrong? educate me!
This stuff here is along the lines of the stuff you'd hear illya play, only a little more down tempo, as its designed to be more of a warmup set type mix as opposed to peak time which illya usually does (fuzzy parties aside).
But if you like the stuff illya plays, hopefully you might like this.
Insomniac
13-Oct-04, 03:00pm
well when i get home, first thing i'll do is crank it up...and i'll let you know what i think :)
if you've been on ITM since dec 2002 tho, youve probably got become pretty thickskinned to the people around here, so hopefully i dont need to tell you not to worry about the shit they spout :)
heh yeah i know all about it, to be honest, people on here can bag my djing till the day i die and as long as at least someone out there is enjoying the music i'm playing then i'm happy.
My aim isnt to please everybody, my aim is just to spin tunes i enjoy and mix to the best i can, if i can share that with other people and have them enjoy it, then thats satisfaction enough for me.
peepyfun
13-Oct-04, 05:42pm
You can also see DJReal in action at Mojo's on the Central Coast....and if you're lucky you'll see me playing next week.....dude i still think you should let me play prog :P
Underwater
13-Oct-04, 09:36pm
Once i get to work tomorrow and have access to the ultra-fast cable internet, i'll jump all over this. And also spice_of_life's new mix, i really enjoyed his previous one, the basslines had such authority.
Respect to you Dj_Real, from reading various posts of yours, you've quite obviously entrenched yourself in the sydney house scene, and thus are a great asset to it :)
Will be back to rate both sets..
go jimmy
destroy the coast!
peepyfun
14-Oct-04, 10:56am
go jimmy
destroy the coast!
They won't know what hit em
Cales405
14-Oct-04, 05:59pm
Geez. You should see some of the stuff they call underground house in the States. You never see them bitching on about classifications like this.
Aussies seem like a bunch of "know-it-alls". Why can't people let the music speak for itself?
Looking forward to getting flamed with my online store when I don't classify something properly.
*Waits for the classification police.*
forgedmc
14-Oct-04, 10:09pm
Okay so i had a few people asking me for a really deep house set, so i did warmup last wednesday at the club and recorded it.
It's a little shaky at times, but overall i'm pretty happy with it.
Tracklisting is as follows ...
1. Steppin' Out (Members Only Mix) - Kaskade
2. Vibes Alive - Joey Youngman
3. One Two One Two - Miguel Migs
4. Majik - Hipp-e
5. Surprise Me (nyc late walk mix) - Miss Me
6. End Up Ep - ECB & Oliver Desmet
7. One Thing - Lawnchair Generals
8. Can't Remember - Inland Knights
9. Rocococoa - Dave Barker
10. Tell You Something (something else mix)- Lawnchair Generals
11. All Is Possible - Swirl Peepz
12. Axinia - Bring On Sunshine (Classic Club Mix)
13. Twilite - Blakkat & Tony Hewitt pres The Lewis Twins
14. I Need You Now (dub) - Greenskeepers
15. How Can i?(jt donaldson mix) - Urban Nu Jazz Naturals
you can download this from my new revamped site, http://www.djreal.co.uk (http://www.djreal.co.uk/) .. alternately, if you're too lazy to go there, you can download it directly from http://www.daveclarkit.plus.com/djreal/DjReal%20Live%20@%20Smooth%20Grooves%2007.10.04.mp 3
Mix is approx 57mb and goes for about 64mins
feel free to post opinioms... all constructive criticism welcome
Looks like shit. Won't bother downloading.
silvaside
14-Oct-04, 10:10pm
Geez. You should see some of the stuff they call underground house in the States. You never see them bitching on about classifications like this.
Aussies seem like a bunch of "know-it-alls". Why can't people let the music speak for itself?
Looking forward to getting flamed with my online store when I don't classify something properly.
*Waits for the classification police.*
haha if you start labelling some shit prog i might just buy it ;D
your an asshole forgedmc
you could of said that better
I think that about plenty of things, but you dont just go around laying crap like that
relax people... it's just a name. i like chewing the fat about these things, doesn't mean i think any less of the people i'm debating with. and there's no need to get personal about things.
cales and forgedmc - both responses were out of line... settle!
konfuser
15-Oct-04, 12:30pm
my house is deeper than your house
konfuser
15-Oct-04, 12:32pm
i'm so fucking underground
look at me ma, no hands
spice_of_life
15-Oct-04, 02:19pm
thats kind of funny and stuff... ha, ha..
john_glover
15-Oct-04, 02:34pm
forgedmc,
Pretty low comments.
Shannon's gone to the effort of making a mix and posting it up on ITM so people can a) hear some new music and b) hear what he's diggin at the moment.
Big ups from me mate, i can see that your passionate about the music your into from doing this, keep up the good work.
honesty
15-Oct-04, 04:35pm
:lol: what a load of shit I'm going to start suporting local bands cause all you are a bunch of girls!
peepyfun
15-Oct-04, 04:38pm
Looks like shit. Won't bother downloading.
Useless post # 7000+ from forgedmc
Mate he asked for constructive critisism. What you said wasnt called for.
Cales405
15-Oct-04, 08:47pm
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cales and forgedmc - both responses were out of line... settle!
Why is my comment out of line? I'm just commenting on how off tangent this whole thread goes and how much Shannon has been flamed for no reason whatsoever. Seems like people on here have nothing better to do. Don't see this kind of behaviour elsewhere. Seems ITM takes the cake.
Word Shannon for having the balls to hold your head up whilst being flamed by people who had nothing better to say. And still I get flamed for trying to stand up for you.
Why is my comment out of line? I'm just commenting on how off tangent this whole thread goes and how much Shannon has been flamed for no reason whatsoever. Seems like people on here have nothing better to do. Don't see this kind of behaviour elsewhere. Seems ITM takes the cake.
Word Shannon for having the balls to hold your head up whilst being flamed by people who had nothing better to say. And still I get flamed for trying to stand up for you.
Thats ITM for ya ;)
I knew as soon as i posted my mix on ITM myself or someone responding would get flamed for one reason or another, if it didnt happen it wouldn't be ITM.
But i posted it up here for those interested in listening to what i had to offer and despite many negative comments, i've also had quite a few positive ones, i've had honest feedback and constructive criticism.
Thats exactly what i was hoping to achive. It's sad to see that some people on here are more concerned with putting shit on others than supporting people and others worrying about a difference of opinion on a music genre, rather than the topic at hand.
But you gotta expect these things when you post on the internet.
Anyway, thanks to all those that gave me what i was after, support, honest opinions and feedback and some constructive criticism and thanks to all those that stuck up for me when i was being flamed.
When it all comes down to it, i love house music as a whole, these mixes are my way of expressing my passion for the sounds that i love and if people can enjoy listening to them, then i'm glad.
People can flame me all they want, but the way i see it is, if i dont keep a positive attitude towards what i'm trying to do, i'm never going to get anywhere. I just do my best to focus on the positive things people are saying as opposed to the negative.
I know quite a number of up & comers that have produced some fantastic demo's that i always push to those that would be interested, but they wont share their mixes with the ITM community for fear of being flamed like i was and many others have been in the past.
It's such a shame that people cant be more supportive of their up & comers, but what can ya do?
/end rant.
spice_of_life
15-Oct-04, 09:44pm
dude, you must have one of the most open minds on this whole forum. big respect for that! looks like you have your head screwed on pretty straight. i agree completely on your ideas!
anyway, just so it doesnt look like a blowjob, FUCK YOU! :P
Sean Doyle
16-Oct-04, 02:26am
Looks like shit. Won't bother downloading.
dude LEARN constructive comments !!!
DJ Real: too right about the arguements just enjoy it !! But fair play for putting the mix up and sharing a piece of your mind....some chinstrokers been sending a few kicks to the plums out on here, but theres no train wrecks so its all good !!
peepyfun
16-Oct-04, 09:57am
[QUOTE=DjReal]
When it all comes down to it, i love house music as a whole
QUOTE]
you never say that about the prog house i play :P
Mmmm I love this deep debate. For me it was deep house that got me into dance music. 10+ years ago I was running cheesy commercial uni nights (hey, the money was with the masses), but to keep myself sain i'd listen to deep house in the office.
Classic deep house albums (that for me define deep house) are albums like "High in a basement".
Now I love the Naked Music sound, and indeed the Naked Music night at Freakazoid was sooo deep, far deeper than what the label sounds like. But for me, the Kaskade/Migs vibe kinda falls into the "smooth house" label in my mind. And its a label I love....and so I'm looking forward to hearing this mix ones its downloaded. Cheers.
Insomniac
16-Oct-04, 03:37pm
finally got round to listening to it after a hectic week of labouring at work :( it was just what the doctor ordered!
if my sig doesn't tell you, i am a trance aficianado before anything else, and im not down with the latest/best producers of house, who the best dj's are...but i know what i like, and i like your set!
mixing was maybe a tooooooouch sloppy but fuck, it's not something that i regard as a priority and most peopel prolly wouldnt even notice. you should hear what trance fans have to put up with from dj's :P (nb: this is tongue in cheek, there are some GREAT trance dj's out there, and sydney has a wealth of trance talent too)
thanks for the set buddy, loved it
have a good weekend ay... NU NRG!! :offchops:
well maybe thats the case in sydney. if so, you guys got it wrong. it's been mentioned in another thread some time ago that sydneysiders lost track of what deep house really is, and they call kaskade deep. listen to the mix. it's not NOT deep.
:lol: sif they know deep up the coast
silvaside
17-Oct-04, 11:59am
:lol: sif they know deep up the coast
:lol:
i thought rife of rife was in melbs?
anyways "it's time to play the music" :P
Patopeaking
17-Oct-04, 12:26pm
What the hell is Deep house
Seriously who would listen to this Deep fried batty west coast shit ??
In San Fran CA, name one club that plays this style of music. 1015 Peach Ruby Skye Spundae ?? no one
Why is it so popular here in Sydney ? not even Melbourne listens that crap
This type of music should be heard at bars like
Loft, Cargo, cruise etc not at clubs or Gosford RSL
i dont care if you slam me
Insomniac
17-Oct-04, 12:41pm
^^^ just so i know, does the music illya plays fit within your description of 'deep fried batty'...??
In San Fran CA, name one club that plays this style of music.
IN Jonkoping Sweden name one club that plays viking folk? wtf pato man who cares about SF :lol:
People in sydney like it, we are in sydney, thats what counts.
stalker
17-Oct-04, 06:25pm
The only reason people call it "Deep" house is to divert attention away from the fact that its shallow as all fuck.
With lyrics like "Oh yeah baby I love you for real you make me feel like" repeated 300 times doesn't sound very deep to me.
Then again, if it was called Shallow house, people wouldn't be into it :lol:
spice_of_life
17-Oct-04, 07:01pm
i don't understand all this mocking, and don't really see a reason behind it.. i'm from melbourne, i don't give a fuck who plays what and where, this mix to me is deep house, and if you don't like it, feel free to eat some powdered bleach. fuck man, why stroke your chins? get over it!
spice_of_life
17-Oct-04, 07:03pm
:lol:
i thought rife of rife was in melbs?
anyways "it's time to play the music" :P :lol: feel teh wrath of my monster-puppet army LEWZ0R!!!
http://mitarbeiter.fh-heilbronn.de/%7Emicham/muppets.gif
silvaside
17-Oct-04, 07:24pm
Man I would love to go out clubbing with you guys. You sound like such fun....
youd be prepared to goto another club other than ARQ?
The only reason people call it "Deep" house is to divert attention away from the fact that its shallow as all fuck.
With lyrics like "Oh yeah baby I love you for real you make me feel like" repeated 300 times doesn't sound very deep to me.
Then again, if it was called Shallow house, people wouldn't be into it :lol: :lol: :lol:
Underwater
20-Oct-04, 01:42pm
thats kind of funny and stuff... ha, ha..
Hey man, had your set on rotation a bit @ work this week. Was gonna compliment you on a good set and shit, ya know, kept me boppin along, wishin to be transported to your dancefloor a couple times. Especially like when you pick it up with this little sub-set;
12 john larner & slater hogan - for my love
13 jt donaldson - make you high
14 just jason - on the weekend
15 mike jules - muppet show
16 brainbug - nightmare (phat manhattan remix)
And 'Bilingual' makes me wanna do really kinky things to females.
But yeah, i really thought Muppet Show was such an original idea and works really really well. The other Mike Jules track later in the set has really stand-out production too, so i was like, hmm who's this Mike Jules dude?!
Then I saw the mp3 title, nice one man :)
Havik, Glover, whoever in sydney, gets your hands on Muppet Show, would love to hear it on the Terrace, kinda quirky but really cool track.
i have a copy of mike jules - muppet show theme, played it a few times whilst playing here on the coast, it's had a mixed reaction, but seems to work pretty well.
spice_of_life
20-Oct-04, 08:37pm
awwww shucks guys, i love you all! :P
thanks for the kind words. i'm gonna drop into capitol records to see some guys about actually pressing this thing and releasing on a white.. unless anyone else has some similar ideas and can help??
big cheers!!!
Spitchen
21-Oct-04, 12:53pm
I think this thread really reveals that the word 'deep' isn't a narrow term at all but has a kinda scale to it.
I'm listening to DJ Real's mix now, and whilst a lot of it (to me) is straight up vocal, funky house, some of it is a bit 'deeper' than that, a little less obvious in melodies and vocal delivery, so much so that I wouldn't classify it as funky house really.
I think the term 'deep house' covers quite a lot of music from stuff that Fred Everything, Swag, Swirl People, some Inland Knights, etc make to the real deep-as-fuck stuff like Moodyman, Jon Delerious, Herbert etc.
To me, DJReal's mix is a mixture of vocal, funky house, deep funky house, and some mid-range deep house.
As for criticism:
Watch out for clashing keys, especially when mixing 2 tracks with both main melody lines still in the mix. :)
spice_of_life
21-Oct-04, 06:50pm
yeah that's true, and as has been said in another thread, 'one man's deep is another man's cheese'..
Underwater
21-Oct-04, 10:15pm
Gave your mix a listen to @ work today DjReal, really enjoyed it :)
Pretty much every mix worked well, as others said, maybe just polish your technical skills, but as far as fusion of tracks go, think you work it well.
Especially like the mixing of
3. One Two One Two - Miguel Migs
4. Majik - Hipp-e
and
7. One Thing - Lawnchair Generals
8. Can't Remember - Inland Knights
Maybe let the mixes run longer, as the tracks work well together.
Plus i thought you had great timing bringing in Axinia - Bring On Sunshine (Classic Club Mix), as the mix felt like it needed to take a more disco/uplifting turn.
6. End Up Ep - ECB & Oliver Desmet - mad track!
Anyways, some words from a novice, end of story - cool mix.
a_618allstarr
21-Oct-04, 11:09pm
hehe... it's no diss guys. don't get fired up.
but as a music writer, dj and straight up music head, those distinctions are kind of important to me. genre names are a real hassle, but they have their place in allowing people to discuss music. to be of any use, they need to be consistent and well understood.
a few years ago, a bunch of sydney house djs (playing what had been previously labeled names like 'quality house') felt the need to differentiate themselves from the hard house, commercial house and other housey doings. so because deep house was hot at the time, with caldwell and the racket crew ruling, these guys started calling what they do 'deep house'.
it's just annoying because now when you're talking about how deep house does it for you, people are thinking you're having an emotional experience to miguel mig's candy soul or kaskade's soft focus house lite.All very true. Whilst there's nothing wrong with the music DJReal is playing (and it's not my bag), it's certainly not what one would call deep house. Unfortunately, as mentioned in many instances, a whole bunch of people in Sydney seem to think that what Illya plays is deep house when it's straight up house.
People have latched on to the term so much so that everything house seems to be deep house, yet you'd never hear anything remotely close.
Pidgeonholes are indeed lame, but how is one ment to educate someone who has less of a knowledge than, say, yourself without using terms inflicted upon the industry buy punters and djs alike. They're a necessary evil at the end of the day.
Deep house and electro are the two most over used and incorrectly used terms today. Give it 12 months and suddenly you'll be listening to some DBX and someone will tell you that it's some wicked 'tech-step'.
Cales... as for people not bitching in the States.. that's ridiculous. They're bitching everywhere!!!
dave_from_texas
23-Oct-04, 12:27am
wassup-
my name is dave and i'm from austin, texas, usa and thought i'd drop in on this thread. i guess the only reason you'd want to have all those names for sub sub sub sub genres of music is so you can organize your records all nice. when i did "rococoa" i called it baroque house, and when brett and i did "stucco homes" we called it zappa house. i'm working on some cock-rock house right now.
cheers-
dave b
Cales405
23-Oct-04, 09:07am
wassup-
my name is dave and i'm from austin, texas, usa and thought i'd drop in on this thread. i guess the only reason you'd want to have all those names for sub sub sub sub genres of music is so you can organize your records all nice. when i did "rococoa" i called it baroque house, and when brett and i did "stucco homes" we called it zappa house. i'm working on some cock-rock house right now.
cheers-
dave b
Hey Dave. Welcome to ITM. Loved your Rococoa EP.
Cales405
23-Oct-04, 09:11am
Cales... as for people not bitching in the States.. that's ridiculous. They're bitching everywhere!!!
Yes they bitch, but not about the classsification of "deep house", like people do here.
Deep House is a much broader term than what some people on here think. The way things are going, like Dave from Texas mentioned is that we are going to have to make up new classifications for every style as it is just getting too fickle.
Illya does not play deep house all the time, as he plays what he has to, to suit the venue and crowd he is playing to, but Illya loves "deep house" more than anything else, believe me I see his spending habits. If more people got into it where he played, he would play it all night long.
dave_from_texas
24-Oct-04, 10:36pm
Let's make a list: speed garage, handbag, deep house, tech house, swing house, vocal house, screaming bitch house, garage, acid house, west coast house, electroclash, okay what am I missing... Handbag. What is handbag?
stalker
25-Oct-04, 01:06am
What about Funky Gabba and Thrash Reggae ?
AdamWade
27-Oct-04, 11:35am
yep, bit loose in parts but some very very nice tunes in there mate. having good taste in music is requirement number one of good DJing...so just work on your mixing and you're away.
at the risk of flogging a dead horse - personally, I probably wouldn't associate many of the artists in that mix exclusively with deep house, which is probably why some of these guys balked at calling it deep...however for the most part that mix is deep...imo of course.
SoLaCeLL
27-Oct-04, 01:32pm
wasnt handbag the term given to the house music that was played in european clubs and danced to by the hot chicks who always carried their handbags with them onto the dancefloor.
spice_of_life
27-Oct-04, 03:33pm
wasnt handbag the term given to the house music that was played in european clubs and danced to by the hot chicks who always carried their handbags with them onto the dancefloor. this happens everywhere to day - some chicks pile their handbags on the dancefloor and dance around them.. it looks a bit like an ancient mating ritual.
leave tech-house out of this!
its wayyyyy broader ;) :P
dave_from_texas
28-Oct-04, 12:37am
that's some funny shit about handbag! i had no idea....
Looking forward to getting flamed with my online store when I don't classify something properly.
*Waits for the classification police.*
Actually, I made my first visit to your shop on the weekend and I couldn't find any deep house.
Actually, I made my first visit to your shop on the weekend and I couldn't find any deep house.
Its on!!!!!
fight fight fight!
Only speaking the truth. I had some vouchers to spend and the records I got all came out of the $5/$10 bin!
Nick Holder, Chez Damier I did get - bomb deep house records too... so perhaps I lied (a little). There must have been a couple of deep house records there at some point, and from time to time I guess they would have more, but I listened to a stack of records (many artists I wouldn't normally consider) and really couldn't find much.
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