View Full Version : Wolf Creek (an Australian thriller....WTF?)
P_Floyd
14-Oct-05, 01:12pm
Just reading about this new Australian film is freaking me out.
Has anyone seen this yet?
Not released until 3rd Nov in mainstream cinemas, but played at MIFF.
Can't wait!
http://www.theprogram.net.au/reviewsSub.asp?id=2856&state=1
the KZA
14-Oct-05, 01:19pm
Dope. So incredibly looking forward. Like Nostradamus.
the KZA
14-Oct-05, 01:21pm
Should've been called "Dingo Creek" or something though, none of our creeks are prominent wolf hang outs as far as I know...
MadOogles
14-Oct-05, 01:27pm
i saw the words "Australian" and "thriller" and thought "Nah" :P
But this actually looks quite good, will cehick it out
Just reading about this new Australian film is freaking me out.
Has anyone seen this yet?
Not released until 3rd Nov in mainstream cinemas, but played at MIFF.
Can't wait!
http://www.theprogram.net.au/reviewsSub.asp?id=2856&state=1
i want dimmeys on the cheap tix at reading
NoKatze
14-Oct-05, 02:10pm
A friend who works in the filmy industry said to definitely go see it after seeing it at an Industry conference... Best Australian film to come out in a long time.
I don't think it's the best ever but considering the industry atm it's a huge godsend.
Specially with the ideas new writers were pitching to the professionals at that same conference I think it may be the only one worthwhile watching for a long time to come.
DJ Fusion
14-Oct-05, 02:12pm
Cant wait to see this.
john e depth
14-Oct-05, 02:46pm
This actually looks ok..
also completely off topic, there's a movie out atm called "nightwatch" I think . . spose to be rather scary.
is it better than Somersault?
it's already released in the UK, haven't seen it yet but I'm dead keen.
P_Floyd
15-Oct-05, 11:14am
This actually looks ok..
also completely off topic, there's a movie out atm called "nightwatch" I think . . spose to be rather scary.
Nightwatch is a Russian film. Apparantly the most successful Russian film ever made. Its the first in a trilogy.
Theres a lot of full on films coming out at the moment. Nightwatch and Devils Rejects are both MA15+, and definately look disturbing.
But I think Wolf Creek's going to take the gold for most freaky. It sounds intense.
P_Floyd
15-Oct-05, 11:20am
is it better than Somersault?
I didn't find Somersault that special. Had a lot of potential, but moved very slowly (in the beginning) and lacked closure.
But had a mad soundtrack......Decoder Ring :thumb:
Whether Wolf Creek will be better? One can only wait. It will definately be different.
azastar
16-Oct-05, 02:52am
Yeah, I've seen Wolf Creek here in the UK. It was alright, quite a gripping thriller. There is a lot of graphic violence and it's quite grisly, so it's not for those with a weak stomach.
There's some good character development so I genuinely felt uneasy for the characters as the movie moves on. However, there were a couple of moments where I felt that the characters do not do the seemingly easy thing to escape the situation. Also, I think the violence is a bit overdone. However, I suppose I should remember that it is a movie though, and not necessarily a realistic story.
Also, the 2 British girls do not have the best British accents around. I guess it's because they were played by Australian actresses. I thought the parts were well acted, but I'm not sure why real British accented actresses were not used.
It is a low budget movie and you can tell that as I believe it was shot digitally on HD. However, I'd say it's quite well done considering this.
Overall, I would say it is above average. Go see it, but don't believe all the hype about 'best ever' or you may be disappointed.
Haven't seen Somersault...
the KZA
17-Oct-05, 12:05pm
is it better than Somersault?
Hahahaha.
Drexciyan
17-Oct-05, 04:17pm
GREAT film. I saw it at the Melbourne Film Festival and hid behind my boyfriends arm for most of it;) Frightening indeed.
Definitely not one for the faint hearted, very graphic and I think its low budget look adds to the chilling vibe of the film, kind of like an Australian Rob Zombie movie if you will...
P_Floyd
17-Oct-05, 05:10pm
I think its low budget look adds to the chilling vibe of the film
So often this is the case. Its made even more disturbing simply because it doesn't look conventional.
Without the money to shoot and polish the film off to a glittery Hollywood standard, it often is left looking more real than any big buget film. Almost too real some might say....
Low Buget films :thumb:
I'm so looking forward to seeing this film. I <3 scary ass moofies!!!
I reckon it will have even more resonance with the average moofie-going punter, what with the Northern Territory, 'Peter Falconio' murder trial underway.
That guy on trial is screwed from day one - today. The prosecution team presented forensic evidence which places him at the scene of the crime. Yeah! explain that ya bastard. XD:lol:XD
SpaceMonkey
17-Oct-05, 07:19pm
A friend who works in the filmy industry said to definitely go see it after seeing it at an Industry conference... Best Australian film to come out in a long time.
I don't think it's the best ever but considering the industry atm it's a huge godsend.
Specially with the ideas new writers were pitching to the professionals at that same conference I think it may be the only one worthwhile watching for a long time to come.
Well I though "The Proposition" was certainly worth watching so it's not the only decent Aussie film out there....
P_Floyd
17-Oct-05, 07:35pm
Well I though "The Proposition" was certainly worth watching so it's not the only decent Aussie film out there....
Add 'Little Fish' to that list, and I think you'd have to say Australian film has taken a turn for the better.
snoochy-boochy
18-Oct-05, 10:31pm
Good films from any country have been as rare as tits on a bull the last few years.
i saw the words "Australian" and "thriller" and thought "Nah"
But this actually looks quite good, will cehick it out
i think the only Australian movie, thrilling one at that, that i liked was "Saw".
apart from the poor-ish, low-budget, hurried production...excellent plot and acting.
bring on "Wolf Creek" !
Good films from any country have been as rare as tits on a bull the last few years.
Untrue.
There's been some excellent movies in the last few years:
- Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind
- Crash
- Memento
- Cidade de Deus (City Of God)
- Amores Perros (Love's A Bitch)
- Donnie Darko
- Garden State
P_Floyd
19-Oct-05, 08:33am
i think the only Australian movie, thrilling one at that, that i liked was "Saw".
apart from the poor-ish, low-budget, hurried production...excellent plot and acting.
bring on "Wolf Creek" !
17th November......
http://images.readingcinemas.com.au/images/movies/mainimage/872_main.jpg
^^ Recovery after Desyn me thinks ???
the KZA
19-Oct-05, 12:58pm
Saw is an American movie written by Australians and half of qoops list is about 5 years old.
P_Floyd
21-Oct-05, 09:52am
i think the only Australian movie, thrilling one at that, that i liked was "Saw".
apart from the poor-ish, low-budget, hurried production...excellent plot and acting.
bring on "Wolf Creek" !
I didn't mind Saw. Found the acting really annoying, as they seemed to overplay a scene when they shouldn't have, and vice versa. Danny Glover really annoyed me also when he was getting beaten up by a guy half his size.
Come to think of it, Saw really lost its direction three quarters of the way through. It went very Hollywood before the end, with the whole 'not keeping an eye on the villain' trick. But then the twist at the end made it all worth while. Excellent story, let down somewhat by the acting.
I just hope Saw II was a planned sequel, and hasn't been written simply to cash in on the moderate success of the first. I definately think Saw is worthy of a sequel, so heres hoping it matches the first.
Anyways, as the KZA said, it was written by Australians, but not made by them, so my hopes are that Wolf Creek scares the shit out of everybody.
P_Floyd
21-Oct-05, 10:24am
Good films from any country have been as rare as tits on a bull the last few years.
Maybe not the last few years, but definately this year. Good news is, while Hollywood's churning out the remakes and cheese, Australia's producing the goods:
- Little Fish
- The Proposition
- Wolf Creek
Wouldn't it be great if one day, the most talked about releases of the year were Australian films? Who knows, nothing wrong with being optimistic.
mushroombaby
21-Oct-05, 02:39pm
i'm going to go check it out next week, love scary stuff!
the KZA
21-Oct-05, 05:49pm
I'm excited about it because it's an Australian Horror movie thematically more importantly than physically. This is what is scary about Australia. If someone unpleasant catches you in a remote area, it's psycho disneyland and you're the teacups.
goodshot
25-Oct-05, 12:08am
saw this a few weeks back - great character development and docu-drama style filming makes the film very believable and scary as all fuck.
P_Floyd
27-Oct-05, 11:19pm
^^ Recovery after Desyn me thinks ???
No I think we should stay clear of this one after Desyn.
Wrong movie choices for a recovery, damn have we tested that water before......not nice. :meh:
Spectrum
31-Oct-05, 04:38pm
Should've been called "Dingo Creek" or something though, none of our creeks are prominent wolf hang outs as far as I know...
It surprised me to discover it was set around a real place:
http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/previous_parks_month/wolfe_creek.html
Note: The 'e' was dropped from Wolfe to Wolf for the movie.
My wife and I saw caught an advance screening last night. After much anticipation, and considering we left Sydney in a campervan in the middle of 1993 and know the flora, fauna, and associated people of the Aussie 'bush' (or lack thereof) so well, it set a very realistic scene.
I won't go on and add to the numerous reviews, only to say we thought it was a quality Aussie piece, albeit very chilling at times.
Recommended.
:thumb:
Kimberley
31-Oct-05, 04:47pm
I have forever been on the search for the ultimate scary movie. One that scares me, and makes me want to run screaming out of the room. I am yet to find such a movie, but maybe Wolf Creek will be the one !!!
A friend saw it on the weekend, and said he has never been so scared in his life, that he almost walked out, and that the guy next to him was dry retching due to the realistic nature of the film. I hope this is true, because people have said things like before and left me more than dissappointed! :p
Bring on Saw II as well I say!
I work in the SA film industry and consequently have seen this film about 3 times. Its more gruesome as opposed to scary: in the same way that a film like Texas chainsaw massacre is sick because there can be absolutely no escape from the inevitable death of the main characters, Wolf Creek is very effective at making you like the characters then watch them get hunted down remorselessly.. If you like sick shit then this film is for you. Definately not for the weak hearted.
Saw is an American movie written by Australians and half of qoops list is about 5 years old.
most of the movies, i think are within the last 5 years. that's what i think "few years" mean.
(2 = couple, 3-5 = few)
as far as i know, it was written by Australians (eg. Leigh Whannel).
and directed by his co-writer.
it was produced and shot in the US, under a really tight budget and in 18 days, hence its grittiness and lack of post-editing polishing.
but since it was distributed by American distributors, i guess that's why it's called American movie.
Saw II is out on the Internet already.
just a crappy telecine version.
i'm watching this in the movies then.
littlemissnrg
01-Nov-05, 03:45pm
I can't wait to see this movie, I'm going to see it Friday :)
LOVE scary/gruesome movies!!
Wolf Creek was made for 1 million aussie bucks, sold to Miramax for 8 million, who then sunk a further 30 or so million into advertising. The money this film is making in the UK and in Aust is lining the pockets of Harvey Weinstein.
Spectrum
01-Nov-05, 10:29pm
Wolf Creek was made for 1 million aussie bucks, sold to Miramax for 8 million, who then sunk a further 30 or so million into advertising. The money this film is making in the UK and in Aust is lining the pockets of Harvey Weinstein.
What's your thought on that?
30 million dollars is a lot of money for an independent to raise to plug a film using limited contacts, so I see it as a fair deal.
Their next deal should be better, though I hope they don't stoop to "Wolf Creek: Reloaded" (ala Blair Witch II) :(
P_Floyd
02-Nov-05, 08:44pm
Starts tomorrow. And from all reports is full on! Very full on!
Can't wait
I think its fair. The distributors are the people who make all the money in the film industry, but they are also the people outlaying most of the risk.
The producers sold it for 8 million and got to go and party at Cannes on Harvey Weinsteins yacht with Mickey Rourke and Kate Moss with plenty of the white shit going around too, so they are happy. Greg Maclean's career is assured so he is happy. Nathan Phillips (the young guy) is now working on his first US feature with Samuel Jackson so I bet he's happy.
Weirdly, Tarantino once said that John Jarrat (bad guy) is his fave aussie actor.... wonder what he thinks of the flick.
I read that Wolf Creek is based on the true story of the backpacker murders, this freaks the crap out of me. As an avid ex hitchhiker the backpacker murders changed mine and many other australians' lifestyle somewhat, as the gruesome reality of the hitch became every travellers worst nightmare. Part of me would love to see this film to make myself sick but Im already sickened by the blackness of thought that would make these emotional aussie murders into a movie.
Man thats some real sick horror movie stuff... Im scared already :P
Punk in Drublic
03-Nov-05, 11:26am
This is out in Cinemas today!
Go and support Australian cinema, people!
Yep am looking forward to this.
abassia
03-Nov-05, 01:24pm
I read that Wolf Creek is based on the true story of the backpacker murders, this freaks the crap out of me.
A few of the actors we on Rove the other night and they said that it wasn't based on a true story, but they took the idea from it...
I heard that they aren't showing it in NT because of the trial going on a the moment. Maybe its a bit too close to the real thing...
I can't wait to see it! I really want to see Saw II as well. I was really impressed with the first one. Loved the twist at the end!
Meagan Spencer wouldn't rate the movie on the Movie Show last night because it was such an unsettling movie. It just makes me want to see it more!
I can't wait to see it! I really want to see Saw II as well. I was really impressed with the first one. Loved the twist at the end!
I can't wait to see Saw II either, I think we're going through a good patch of Aussie movies this Spring, Little Fish was pretty good too.
john e depth
03-Nov-05, 02:26pm
Seeing this tonight @ fox studios!! Should be goooood
rabbler
04-Nov-05, 05:40pm
Fantastic thriller.
Couldnt shake that unsettled feeling for hours afterwards. Great acting by the red-neck serial killer.
littlemissnrg
04-Nov-05, 05:41pm
Saw it today and OMFG.
Not as gruesome as I was expecting but one of the most terrifying movies I've seen due to it's realism. I could put myself in the victims shoes and could imagine this happening. Very scary thoughts. Left me chilled to the bone.
Great cinematography,some amazing shots of outback Australia.
A movie everyone should experience, I'll never forget it.
rabbler
04-Nov-05, 06:01pm
Great cinematography,some amazing shots of outback Australia.Totally agree. Many moments that took my breath away.
Its fuckin shit. It was good up until the half way mark and then it just lost it completely.
Spectrum
05-Nov-05, 01:13am
Its fuckin shit. It was good up until the half way mark and then it just lost it completely.
What were you expecting?
1/2 way mark? What, up to the point they fell asleep with the esky in the fire?
Curious to know your thoughts (other than "Its fuckin shit").
Acting all fine. Cinematography fine. Scene in the shed, pretty sweet. But once he stumbles out of the shed and blasts the wind shield out its all fairly predictable.
Its not the worst movie I ever saw by far. Im just a little pissed I wasted some of the few dollars I had on it.
I just watched the first half and it made me feel sick, so i'm not watching the rest. i love horror movies but this one didnt sit well
similar to texas chainsaw massacre in they are in a remote place and there is no escape, and the dude is totally fucked up...but even more disturbing.
and too many shades of joanne lees.
for a horror movie it was rad, many shades of me going "fucking fuck that's fucking fucked". no build up of any suspense immediately before the deaths, just death handed out cold and fast. i think that's what made it more disturbing. more shocking than Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and more fucked up nail through wrist visuals than Passion of the Chirst.
i'll relate an outback story. i used to tour the SA bush for work in a 4WD, and near Snowtown we pulled into this offroad supplies store in hope of a drink or some bakery goods. the road sign said "meats and smallgoods" and we should of known better. in the small, dingy house was a 6'5 40 year old overweight weird bloke with racks of meats. what animal they were from wasn't indicated at all, and when we asked if he had anything else to offer: "nope, all i've got is meat" in one of those voices that just says "i fucking enjoy hacking bits of flesh off the deceased". imagine an obese cross between john jarratt and jeffery dahmer and you've nailed it.
in addition to that, my dad used to do a lot of work in the NT on geological surveys. according to him, just about every second territorian claims to have murdered someone. outback australia - refuge of nutters
spot on gravy.
he didnt store his meat in specially designed barrels per chance?
big eddie
08-Nov-05, 10:05pm
Just saw this film, didn't rate it... I didn't really find it scary, although there were some bits that I found pretty hillarious...
I dunno, I've met too many people like the John Jarret character (minus the murder)
I enjoyed pride and prejudice much more.
Spectrum
09-Nov-05, 12:11am
I just watched the first half and it made me feel sick
1/2 way mark? What, up to the point they fell asleep with the esky in the fire?
;)
john e depth
09-Nov-05, 10:42am
man, jarrat's little smirky laugh stayed with me for a week after seeing this.
FunkingTrance
09-Nov-05, 11:02am
I saw this on Friday and whilst I thought it was a good film and well made I was a bit disturbed they were portraying this as a true story when it really isn't.
Spectrum
09-Nov-05, 10:33pm
I saw this on Friday and whilst I thought it was a good film and well made I was a bit disturbed they were portraying this as a true story when it really isn't.
Does it claim to be a "true story"?
Or does it claim to be "based on true events"?
As far as I recall from the movie opener, it's the latter, and in which case, incidents such as the "head on a stick" do stem from "true events" (in this case, the Ivan Milat backpacker murders).
1/2 way mark? What, up to the point they fell asleep with the esky in the fire?
;)
Haha, yes it did take awhile to get going. I should have said 'three quarters of the way through'
ms money penny
10-Nov-05, 02:02pm
*some spoliers ahead*
I saw this on the weekend, was petrified! Especially when he stabbed her in the back with the knife god that made me feel sick.
I guess I found it so scary because I put myself in that situation and thought how terrified I would be (especially when he had her tied up in the shed) a few parts I thought were crap and could have been done better (like when she went back for the car and started looking at the video tapes, err hello a mass murderer is chasing you and you decide to stop and look at some pics?) but all in all a good scary movie
Davomaxi
10-Nov-05, 03:25pm
I thought it was a great movie - genuinely shocking and scary. I would give it 4 out of 5.
*some spoliers ahead*
I saw this on the weekend, was petrified! Especially when he stabbed her in the back with the knife god that made me feel sick.
I guess I found it so scary because I put myself in that situation and thought how terrified I would be (especially when he had her tied up in the shed) a few parts I thought were crap and could have been done better (like when she went back for the car and started looking at the video tapes, err hello a mass murderer is chasing you and you decide to stop and look at some pics?) but all in all a good scary movie
i saw it last night and these are my thoughts exactly - had all the hall marks of a good horror flick - including the stupid bit where she goes back and then looks through all his shit - it was horrific while i was watching it but not haunting the way a good thriller is after you've finished.
p.s please dont ever change your avatar im in love with it
Andrew Wowk
11-Nov-05, 01:43pm
I was a very hesitant about seeing this film, I hate genuinely scary movies with a passion. However, this one I liked. A lot. I did however look at the floor during the more disturbing scenes, such as when he apparently makes her a "head on a stick". I didn't see that bit, what exactly happened? The biggest positive it had was that it was freaky and shocking without being over the top and emotionally scarring (which is what I hate about movies like The Amityville Horror). However, I think the same effect could have been achieved with half the violence.
yeah but that would make it a thriller and not a horror movie andrew - toughin up son:P
indie_doll
11-Nov-05, 04:00pm
is it better than Somersault?
it's already released in the UK, haven't seen it yet but I'm dead keen. Ok it is way better than somersault. I found that flat and slow. Great cinematography/direction but the plot was boring.
Wolfcreek thrills, but is not exactly horror scary if that is what you are looking for.
the KZA
11-Nov-05, 04:09pm
Dude, no-one even died in the Amityville Horror. Unless you count that family before the opening credits...
And the head on a stick bit, he just stabbed her in the lower back to cripple her, but she didn't die so it's ok.
Top movie. As. Fucken loved that bit where that Ben guy cracks that Crocodile Dundee joke and Jarret just fucken glares at him. One of the best villains ever that guy, a cross between Cookie&Bob from a Country Practice and Chopper Read.
The set up of the murder fodder protagonists was the best in any horror movie I've seen, and that's a fair fucken few. I actually liked these characters, and was actually upset when they died instead of revelling. Wierd.
Could have maybe done with a better climax though, the end of the movie just kind of snuck up on me.
Does it claim to be a "true story"?
Or does it claim to be "based on true events"?
As far as I recall from the movie opener, it's the latter, and in which case, incidents such as the "head on a stick" do stem from "true events" (in this case, the Ivan Milat backpacker murders).
based on true events
seen it didnt think it was scary at all
a bit disturbing but other than that
gimme a friggin scary movie!!!!!!
Andrew Wowk
11-Nov-05, 04:23pm
Dude, no-one even died in the Amityville Horror.
True, though there was plenty of other fucked up stuff in that movie. The death part is usually the bit I'm least affected by in those sorts of twisted spernatural time films.
That's part of the reason I liked this so much, it didn't have all that demon/religious stuff that I get so {:-( over.
The blood and gore I just get squeemish about, but it doesn't scare or disturb me, just a bit sick to my stomach so I tend to avoid it :P
oliosky
11-Nov-05, 04:26pm
I liked it. But wasn't all that scared.
I went away from it feeling more disturbed that I wasn't freaked out by this movie, given all the comments above^^^
the KZA
11-Nov-05, 04:42pm
I don't think it was a "scary" horror, more a "disturbing" horror. Cliche boo moments would have fucked it up.
I see it as kind of an antedote to those cheesy action flicks where the beautiful people prance around not being killed whilst trying to prove smarminess is mightier than the sword. Wolf Creek, responsible education for today's over confidant youth.
I don't think it was a "scary" horror, more a "disturbing" horror. Cliche boo moments would have fucked it up.
Moments like the killer hiding in the backseat of a car?
ok that was pretty scarey
the worst for me were her screams from the shed and being chased down in the car, i was actally talking out loud "go GO GOOOOOOOOO!!!"
Miss_Bella
12-Nov-05, 10:54am
no fkn way am I seeing this movie
Shinzon
12-Nov-05, 11:36am
Yeah saw it the other night. Not scary in the typical sense but quite disturbing & sickening in parts. The ending was to sudden. Greatly made movie with fantastic imagry of the outback, actors all played their parts really well with the exception of the girl watching the tapes ect! As if you would actually do that! Although the movie was really well made i can't say i'd recommend it due to the nature of the film.
morgsisraving
12-Nov-05, 11:48am
the bit where she goes back and checks out the pics and vids;
she notices jarrets ute in the background of bens star trek monologue footage
my question is: was jarret actually in the diner when that bloke pics a fight? i cant remember
i thought it was a pretty rad movie, tho personally didnt find it that scary (im a tough cunt ;) ) but very disturbing
wondering if girls found the movie scarier because of the very real threat of rape and torture in the movie? most guys i know dont really comprehend that feeling
just a thought
(flaming imminent!)
no i think thats a valid point, i think if you can relate then its scarier so that makes sense
went and watched it last night, top movie! a little disturbing at some bits, people in the cinema were screaming and covering their eyes, it's been a while since i've been to a movie that scares the hell out of people.
the KZA
14-Nov-05, 12:35pm
Moments like the killer hiding in the backseat of a car?
Yeah, that was a Boo moment but it wasn't gratuitous and it wasn't what the movie relied on. In fact I think that's the only sudden surprise in the whole movie, which is why that particular boo moment was more effective than 90% of all other boo moments you'll see I reckon.
I think it was the point where I gave up on the movie entirely. So very predictable and so very lame. There most have been 10 or 12 cars in that garage, and he happens to be waiting in the exact car she chooses.
the KZA
14-Nov-05, 12:41pm
Top movie. As. Fucken loved that bit where that Ben guy cracks that Crocodile Dundee joke and Jarret just fucken glares at him. One of the best villains ever that guy, a cross between Cookie&Bob from a Country Practice and Chopper Read.
Could have maybe done with a better climax though, the end of the movie just kind of snuck up on me.
On further consideration, the lack of a post esky-melt confrontation between Mick Taylor and Ben was a fucken rip off.
the KZA
14-Nov-05, 12:46pm
I think it was the point where I gave up on the movie entirely. So very predictable and so very lame. There most have been 10 or 12 cars in that garage, and he happens to be waiting in the exact car she chooses.
I don't think he was waiting. He snuck up on her while she was distracted. Anyway, I bet it makes sense somehow if you watch it again, and even if it doesn't I don't care, coz that is the only minute in the whole movie which you can possibly imply is cliche and/or poorly thought through.
You're just trying to be cool, aren't ya?
I went and saw Dukes of Hazzard. I'll never be cool.
I don't think he was waiting. He snuck up on her while she was distracted. Anyway, I bet it makes sense somehow if you watch it again, and even if it doesn't I don't care, coz that is the only minute in the whole movie which you can possibly imply is cliche and/or poorly thought through.
You're just trying to be cool, aren't ya?I totally disagree with this point
Horror films are written to a pretty concrete formula and I think this one stuck to it like glue
Introduce the victims to be
Try and make you like them
Introduce villian
Commence raping anf killling
Show some blood
Have a girl screem
Have someone try and escape
Have someone go back
Have that someone spend a bit of time browsing in a serial killers place of uh "business"
Kill a few people
Don’t get me wrong I like horror films and I think this was a good one but that’s not to say its original.
the KZA
14-Nov-05, 01:45pm
Dukes of Hazzard was ill!
Yeah, barebones plot, it's a horror movie. Obviously. But my point is that it was original in tone and execution, and I don't think that car thing was corny at all.
I think it stuck to these basic guidelines of how to unveil a story, but they (the writers) where smart about everything and didn't fuck anything up, unless you disagree about the car bit. Even then, not enough to bring down the movie.
Also, how good where the performances? I can't think of any other horror film with as good acting.
Im not disputing the performances were good, I was only disagreeing with your point of view that there were few cliché moments, my theory on movies is it doesn't matter if they are rife with cliches etc as long as the writing and performances are solid, and I think in this case that's true, it is standard horror fodder but it's done very well.
I saw this and the propostion in the same week and it did make me feel that the australian film industry has really stepped it up
the KZA
14-Nov-05, 02:10pm
Here's hoping.
And I maybe should pick a different word than cliche, but I can't think of one. I meant roll your eyes at the lameness cliche, not just happens as a matter of course cliche...
Im not disputing the performances were good, I was only disagreeing with your point of view that there were few cliché moments, my theory on movies is it doesn't matter if they are rife with cliches etc as long as the writing and performances are solid, and I think in this case that's true, it is standard horror fodder but it's done very well.
I saw this and the propostion in the same week and it did make me feel that the australian film industry has really stepped it up
How can the writing be good if theres a bundle of cliche's in the flick? I agree the dialogue itself wasnt naff, but that aint the only thing that needs to be competent in the writing.
I saw this after seeing The Proposition as well, and since everyone else seemed to be raving about it, I wasnt expecting your stock standard slasher. And for a while it didnt seem it would be, but it did in the end.
so what you don't think things can be good unless they have never been done before?
My point is that it wasn't original and was by and large a cliched horror flick but it was well made - in my opinion.
kza - ahh gotcha, i had misunderstood what you meant.
so what you don't think things can be good unless they have never been done before?
My point is that it wasn't original and was by and large a cliched horror flick but it was well made - in my opinion.
Fair enough. I guess I was expecting something more original than what it was. I’m not tryin to jump up on some high horse and denounce everyone as tasteless twats. I've seen my fair share of bad movies this year, but I've at least gotten some entertainment value out of 'em.
Wolf creek had nothin, imo. It tried to survive by shocking people with some brutal violence, and I’m fairly desensitised to that sort of thing (on film, at least).
the KZA
14-Nov-05, 03:00pm
Horror flicks are by nature 'cliche'. Because it's faithful to the genre doesn't make it stupid. It makes YOU stupid for calling my latest favourite movie stupid.
:ninjanunchukaemoticon,youknowtheone...:
And it was a very original movie. In tone and execution. If you can't recognise that you haven't seen enough horror movies to scoff any sort of "ho hum, seen it all before" type of scoff.
P_Floyd
14-Nov-05, 04:09pm
This film is great. One of those films you leave the cinema thinking, that was pretty good, and then the more you reflect and think about it, the more you realise how fantastic it really was.
The bit where the girl is screaming and her friend was watching the torture happening, was one of the most intense pieces of film I have watched in a very long time. I love disturbing films, and this section of Wolf Creek made me very uncomfortable (surprisingly).
Also, the part where the girl is stabbed in the back, was horrifying. The look on her face when he stabbed her, was one of the most chilling images you will ever see. You would be hard pressed to find an actor that could play that instance with the same quality. My favourite shot of the film! Big :thumb: to DOP.
As for the cliche argument, I tend to disaggree. Sure you can always find moments of the film that you can explain an adapt enough to warrant a cliche label, but generally, I think it was very original.
I feel the killing moments were very unexpected, as there was no buildup to the murder. The point of death came at such unexpected times. Usually in film the killer works up towards the euphoric moment of death, but Wolf Creek's villain basically had a bit of fun, then all of a sudden made the decision to kill. It's almost as if he got bored of the characters, and felt like moving on. Without any thought or celebration. He just finished each character off when I least expected it, and when Hollywood horror conventions would have me believe.
I loved the end. Was taken by surprise, as it crept up out of nowhere. The lack of closure was frustrating then refreshing. To just dump the movie in the middle of intense times was gold.
If I was directing the film I would have made it so much more unpleasant ;D, there was so much potential to really make people want to leave the film. For starters, there should have been more torture while the friend looks on through the window, and some mutilation with the "head on a stick" situation. These were great opportunities that were passed up. I'm only saying this because a lot of people told me the film was very violent, so I was expecting more than was delivered. The film was very unpleasant, but not as gory as some films I have seen.
All round I thought the movie was great, very raw and original, and something any Aussie can easily relate to. The lack of music was GREAT, cheesy music is what I hate about hollywood horror.
^^ Floyd I agree with a lot of what you are saying, the ending was great how it just abruptly finished.
big eddie
14-Nov-05, 05:26pm
What really shat me about this film was, she fucking shot him in the neck. when he is on the ground you'd go and put another one between his eyes (he had a bench full of rifles) or bash the fucking stock into his skull enough his brains came out his eyes.
*then* go and find your friends...
^^^ Yeah, there was a big knife on the floor, as if you wouldn't jam it into his skull. But then what would they have done with the last hour of the film ;D
I went and saw this movie on the weekend and i have to say i was VERY DISSAPOINTED!!! It was no where near as good as i thought it was going to be, maybe i was expecting too much !!!!
I left the cinema asking myslef "was that it??"
What really shat me about this film was, she fucking shot him in the neck. when he is on the ground you'd go and put another one between his eyes (he had a bench full of rifles) or bash the fucking stock into his skull enough his brains came out his eyes.
*then* go and find your friends...
I couldn't believe she just hit him on the back with the gun. I had to laugh...
phunkstar22
15-Nov-05, 02:25pm
Saw II is out on the Internet already.
just a crappy telecine version.
Just watched this the other day..well the first 20 mins of it and then stopped. Terrible attempt at a sequel, has nothing to do with the original creators. Someone has obviously thought they could cash in on the concept. This rarely works out.
phunkstar22
15-Nov-05, 02:28pm
Does it claim to be a "true story"?
Or does it claim to be "based on true events"?
I heard it was inspired by the Peter Falconio murder, and also films like Picnic at Hanging Rock. The director was apparently intrigued by the eerieness of the Australian Outback and what lies beneath.
Just watched this the other day..well the first 20 mins of it and then stopped. Terrible attempt at a sequel, has nothing to do with the original creators.
Leigh Whannell has a writing credit for this. Fuck knows how much input he had though.
on further reflection, this movie has disturbed me even more.
when i was 5-6 i used to live in north-western australia. we lived in broome, derby and fitzroy crossing. one day we went on a trip to geicke gorge and on the way back home our car broke down. then some dude had to tow us back to derby. so that scene where she looks through the camera and sees the family, had complete relevance to me. MY FAMILY WERE IN THAT AREA IN 1988, AND OUR CAR BROKE DOWN! IT COULD HAVE BEEN US!
hi gravy
it was just a movie
love megs
hi megs
really? i thought it was a documentary
no love, gravy
dear gravy
oh come on lighten up
*hugz* megs
NIK-O-LAKI
23-Nov-05, 08:58pm
Saw it today. Left the movie totally unsettled. Haven't been that emotional affected by a movie like that before (and no I didn't cry ;D).
This movie was far from cliche. The Australian setting and lack of Hollywood 'one-liners and climax then kill' moments made it very original. All killings came at unexpected times. When the two girls have escaped and then one leaves (camera girl) to go back to the car yard - in Hollywood this would be the start of the escape followed by some close encounters and drama followed by the villian eventually being killed via a sharp natural object.
Acting was brilliant. Cinematography was brilliant. I'm still however in a state of mind asking questions as to why or if we need to see this sort of stuff. Was it made for criminal psychologists to get off on? It was so damn realistic and hence so much more disturbing. Great movie but would I buy the DVD? I think once was enough.
saw this about 5 days ago.
and it left quite disturbed.
- particularly, because i'm going on a 'road trip' in about 16hours.
- the characters (and serial killer) are such affable, likeable characters.
This movie was far from cliche. The Australian setting and lack of Hollywood 'one-liners and climax then kill' moments made it very original. All killings came at unexpected times. When the two girls have escaped and then one leaves (camera girl) to go back to the car yard - in Hollywood this would be the start of the escape followed by some close encounters and drama followed by the villian eventually being killed via a sharp natural object.
- each scene was over-climactic, in that you don't think it can be any grislier, expecting an anti-climax...but it goes one notch further
soulshine
28-Nov-05, 11:55am
movie scared me like no other. Really well done. Got home and read up on the true story (the Bendagol forest thing) Some fucked up shit :O
I saw this yesterday and whilst I thought it was a really well made movie, at no point was I so scared that I felt like walking out.
Sure, my heart pounded and I did squint my eyes a few times, but all this hype about people walking out at preview screenings etc Bullocks! It's JUST A MOVIE! I know, I know - based on real events... but... it's not real.
And even though I also cringed at the video-watching scene (i didn't think the spotting of the blue truck pertinent to the film's storyline), I thought it was a great movie and a cool way to spend my Sunday arvo.
I loved the movie. Saw it last Thursday and couldn't stop trying that evil laugh the killer does.
I so want that staring pose the killer does around the fire as my wallpaper. :lol:
It scared the crap out of my friend, buried her head into my shoulder.
Very well worked piece of cinematography.
soulshine
30-Nov-05, 09:19pm
I so want that staring pose the killer does around the fire as my wallpaper. :lol:
haha i want it too. so fucken cool
john e depth
01-Dec-05, 10:19am
movie scared me like no other. Really well done. Got home and read up on the true story (the Bendagol forest thing) Some fucked up shit :O
I believe that's belangelo :lol:
But yeah, what a fucking absolute nutter he was :crazy:
Eighties_Chic
14-Dec-05, 07:59am
I believe that's belangelo :lol:
But yeah, what a fucking absolute nutter he was :crazy:
I believe that's Belanglo :lol:
.... and yes he was/is a nutter. In fact most of the family of were!
His mum was fiecely protective of her huge clan, even though they were guilty of things such as armed robbery, assault etc.
She once saw an intruder trying to break into her house and as they tried to climb in the window, chopped "his" fingers off with an axe (he never went to hospital, the police never found out who he was).
Years later, she attacked a police officer who came to talk to one of her sons - she whacked him in the head with a shovel! The case went to court and a judge saw this little "old" lady and dismissed the case saying the officer shouldnt have been in the yard.
One of Ivans brothers girlfriends had a run-in with someone one day. Ivan told her, if anyone gives her trouble, to make them a "head on a stick" by getting a pig stabber & stick it in their spine so that they are paralysed but are still aware. I beieve this was used in the movie.
He proclaims his innocence to this day, saying that all the backpackers personal items were planted by police.
Nick Vidal
14-Dec-05, 10:46am
yeh i read up on it too http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/milat/discovery_1.html
its a fairly long read but interesting nonetheless
:lol: @ Bendagol
movie freaked me out too
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