drug busts

[cfunk]

The press articles reporting the Lot 33 raid on Saturday night indicate that the police are planning a number of drug raids on Canberra's nightclubs. They say that it is an effort to catch some of the big dealers and suppliers - although we all know that the big dealers and suppliers don't often go to the clubs and if they do they don't have anything on them. The people at clubs with drugs on them are either the people selling smallish amounts to subsidise their partying or those carrying their personal stash for the night. Maybe all the police resources are being put into the wrong areas - or maybe they are now getting desperate as they realise that their laws don't work.

It might be Habana next. Be careful - the consequences of being caught could effect the rest of your life.

[funk_e_fy]

I agree cfunk. I think the police should direct their resourses into other areas of drug related activities rather then nabbing a few paying patrons in a club/bar.

On another note, the owners of Lot 33 are f%$^'in scumbags (particularly one). They get what they deserve and if they don't get fined for any of the above, their
reputation as bar owners is tarnished aswell as their bar looking like a brothel. Not cool. I wouldn't go there again.

And if you plan on going to Habanna in the near future, I'd be taking a pocketfull of doggy-chocs just to piss off Operation Skeet.

[laurac]

I also agree also that the police should be targetting the source of the drugs, rather than the recreational users in the clubs and wouldn't a more obvious choice of venue to raid be a dance club, not just a bar?

Why do you say that the owners of Lot 33 are scumbags? How do they get what they deserve? Because you don't like them personally, they are better looking than you perhaps??? I happen to know them well and think they are great guys - friendly, personable, generous and fun to hang out with. They have made a huge contribution to the Canberra bar/club scene in opening that bar and I for one am very thankful for that.

As bar owners, they cannot control what people bring into their bar hidden under their clothes so why should they suffer. I understand that they have obligations as bar owners, but I disagree that they deserve what happened to them and their club on Saturday night.

[Lisa]

I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Bottom line is this drugs are illegal...it is only a matter of time b4 this was going to happen..eventually, and of course Lot 33 is only the beginning. E wasn't the only drug targeted..also stuff that can be used to spike a person's drink..with over 70 reports of this sort of thing going on this year.
And I work for a news service..so I should know.
So, the solution to the problem...is drop b4 u go out..and find a trusty dealer hahahhahahahhahaaaaaaa
But really, what do u expect, do the crime, do the time..corny I know...

[Mr_PB]

Good point lisa.

You have to remember that it is illegal and to expect to get away with it forever is just naive, so either dont take drugs or be smart about it.


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[cfunk]

The only person spiking drinks in Canberra is probably one of the scumbag owners of Lot 33 and that why it was raided!!

Sure it may only be a bar and not a nightclub but if the owners wanted the reputation of being mr g cool drug dealers then this is the price they will pay.

I agree that people forget that taking drugs is illegal and I think everyone in Canberra has gotten really complacent because it has always been so easy to get away with things in Canberra clubs - it is obviously time that people get smarter and more careful about what they do when they go out.

[EmGem]

Of course drugs are illegal and I don't think that anyone would deny that. I think the point is that this raid was a complete waste of policing resources that could be used elsewhere in the community. Did you see the footage on the TV? All of those police plus sniffer dogs for one arrest. I agree with you cfunk if the police were really serious about targeting the 'big people' then they shouldn't be wasting everyone's time by targeting bars.

I also don't think that Lot 33 'deserved' what happened to them on Saturday night. You could walk into any club/bar around Canberra and find the same drugs that were found there. funk e fy can you please explain what you mean by your comments?

[Lisa]

Urgghhhh if u don't know the details then don't post!! Lot 33 is one of the first places to be raided...and not only for drugs..but for underage drinking, drink spiking and blah blah...
Pbb..yes to your question !! :-)

[laurac]

What details doesn't she know?

Where is the proof of drink spiking at Lot 33, and what makes you people say that it was the owners doing it - that is one massive accusation that you should be able to back up with some evidence!!!!

Underage drinking goes on at all bars/clubs/nightspots, it will always happen but I have to say I have not seen a lot of it at Lot 33, if anything the crowd is a bit older, although not as ancient as that at Minque

[Lisa]

R u a bit slow? I don't think anyone is having a go at Lot 33, it
is not just this club that this will happen to, just the first one so far.
I know what I am talking about, does anybody else?

[laurac]

Not as slow as you apparently think!

If you bothered to read up a little further in the post, you would see that someone was in fact having a go at Lot 33 and the owners of the bar (i.e funk e fy said "On another note, the owners of Lot 33 are f%$^'in scumbags (particularly one). They get what they deserve and if they don't get fined for any of the above, their
reputation as bar owners is tarnished aswell as their bar looking like a brothel. Not cool. I wouldn't go there again")

I don't disagree that carrying drugs is illegal and police should be stopping it, I just think that if they are to start somewhere, there are other clubs in Canberra that obviously have drugs much more prevalent on the premises.

I don't disagree that drinks are being spiked in Canberra clubs either. I guess the police had to start somewhere in their crackdown of the practice of drug taking and drink spiking, I just question why they chose this bar first!

[funk_e_fy]

The police dont raid clubs without a good reason to. There are drugs in all bars, clubs, dance parties and some places attract drugs more then others - maybe Lot 33? I believe bar owners do have more control over people taking/bringing drugs onto their premises. They’re clubs/events in both Canberra and Sydney that are similiar in music, location, people, and one club will be reeking of more drugs then the other. Take Home then walk in to Zen - and you see the difference straight away. Zen can be very messy - the owners, staff, door staff are all very aware of it.

Cfunk, I agree that people have become more complacent and that's because you can in some places. I’m with you on ALL your comments. I know all about that @!#$ to :-(
Spiking people's drinks is becoming more commen (lots of reports in Sydney). It’s f&*$’in brutal.
Berlin clubs was raided with 80 cops and dogs (I think it was that many?). I've been there before and it ain't a big place. That was an overkill I thought. Your night would be over but that would'nt stop me going out the next weekend. ;-]

[bubsey]

Lisa,

You seem keen to justify your opinion based on your involvement in the media! Do you mind if i ask exactly what you do, because i would assume your daily role involves being amoungst these so could dealers and following them from place to place. If not not than your sadly a product of someone elses news and should probably stick to the collating @!#$ babe.

[laurac]

You have made some good points funk e fy, I agree, they must have a reason to raid a place and I too find spiking drinks absolutely fucking insane.

If you know all about that so called @!#$ , why don't you fill us in!!

[Lisa]

Hhahahaha funny...
I am not saying I know it all, I just don't understand what the big deal is really...Last weekend Lot 33, maybe this weekend some other club..police checking for the exacty same thing. I too agree, that obviously some clubs may have more drugs etc...
Eventually it was going to happen. Thats life.

[funk_e_fy]

I'm not going to gossip laurac. Especially on a forum.

[laurac]

Oh OK, I thought it was facts!!!

Then you should be careful what you say if all it is is gossip - it can be very damaging to people, especially if it is not true.

[Lunch]

reasons to raid the place - raid happens the weekend before the public launch of operation skeet - anti designer drug campaign (which includes public education campaign) - at the bar which had fairly recently been in the news over violence - star pickets and handguns - a bar which joe public had therefore heard of, in an unsavoury light - can anyone say publicity stunt? - unfortunate for the lot 33 people - but I think its more than just a coincidence -

[laurac]

In regards to drink spiking, don't you think it is the responsibility of the bouncers etc to keep their eye out for it?

I mean, how obvious is it if smashed/passed out girls are being carried out of clubs and bars by men? Surely it would raise some eyebrows and questions should be asked, if not by the staff, by friends of the person in such a state????

[cfunk]

I know all about all the so called @#$% that funk e fy refers to. It is not gossip - it is fact that is documented in police files.

People are just too god damn naive in this town.

[funk_e_fy]

When a persons drink is spiked with Rohypnol, (the date rape drug), the effects dont happen immediatly. i.e you dont fall off your bar stool.
You can be easily persuded by you attacker to go for a walk (outside for fresh air -how often do we do that!), go to another bar or club, go have a coffee etc....and often you can be quite agreeable/or willing under the drugs infulence. This is why it is so dangerous. Doorstaff wont pick up on this.
Progesterex is being used together with Rohypnol. All they have to do is drop it into your drink and you wont remember a thing the next morning. Progesterex, which dissolves in drinks just as easily, is such that the victim doesn't conceive from the rape and the rapist needn't worry about having a paternity test identifying him months later. Progesterex was designed to sterilize horses. Any female that takes it will never be able to conceive.

[laurac]

Well I was just interested to know what this person has done if it is so bad and it is documented in police files!! Email me and tell me if you don't want to post it.

[cfunk]

I don't think it is appropriate to go any further about the owners of Lot 33 and it should have probably never been brought up (i admit to being partly responsible). Maybe the police raided that bar for a particular reason or maybe they are just the victims of the latest crackdown. Either way if people want to do illegal stuff when they go out they now have to be much more careful.

I do hope these drug raids achieve one thing - and thats catch those scumbags who spike peoples drinks

[Mr Mike]

funk e fy while not discounting the prevalence or severity of the rohypnol problem (it fucking sucks and i cant believe there are lowlifes out there that would do this @!#$) progesterex does not exist

the site below debunks urban myths - you'll be surprised how many stories you've heard are fact are complete BS

www.snopes2.com

[Dusty]

Heh, maybe you should just all do what I did.

Move to Victoria, where its the cops who are getting busted with E

-Dusty

[Bass Whore]

I have to say, just because someone works for the media doesn't mean they know everything. Media is generally the biggest load of bullshit you'll ever hear.

I heard that weapons were also found on the premises of Lot 33, is this true, does anyone know???

If the police were serious about pinpointing dealers I agree with a few of you that clubs are not the place to find them...try carparks and houses! Also why Lot 33??? Surely Habana's the obvious place. Now that they've hit Lot first, everyone going to Habana is on their toes....I mean look at this forum....not likely any of us will be caught!!! I know that one of you said they were targeting spiked drinks etc too, but I've heard this happens at both uni bars and at Habana also, I'd imagine it happens everywhere....so lame excuse to target Lot!

Pool police resources where they're needed! Like the bus interchanges where young females are getting assaulted!

[Ravermon]

And after all those police resources pooled into that raid...I notice that there was only one fine of $700....good waste of money AFP..............

[cfunk]

I heard that the Lot 33 owner only got fined $700 for drug possession because he gave info to the police about some of the big dealers in Canberra - so maybe the police got their moneys worth after all...

[Sir Pimpsalot]

meanwhile a huge drug bust in berlin, a sydney club, uncovered (wait for it...) A POT SMOKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the fiasco ended with the piggies confiscating $10,000 worth of beer and having a precinct barbecue.