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Fabmacca
08-Feb-06, 05:08pm
It's taken a while but I finally got around to seeing this awesome movie again. Lamb.... pour vous

Crash (2004) Directed by Paul Haggis. Written by Paul Haggis and Robert Moresco.

Crash is a very cool film ostensibly about racism, but it's equally about people, and life in general.

Its aim is simply to show the insidiousness of racism (or evilness) to other people and how it can infect people who in almost all other facets of their lives are fairly decent, if a little blind. Through a series of remarkable coincidences for a very compact number of peoples' interactions with each other it shows the best and worst of humanity, and showcases the fact that ordinary people are capable of some remarkable cruelty and some remarkable fortune.

It's a really good idea: follow a group of people who are all protagonists in their own stories, but whose actions make them the antagonists of other people. It's about people whose view of the world lacks the scope of the wider consequences of their actions and is limited only to their understanding of how it relates to them. In other words, it's about how we ourselves live our lives as the main character in our own stories, and how that intersects with other peoples lives in ways we probably don't realise.

An example. I might have had the most horrible day, am running late as a result of other people's actions, I've had a whole sequence of red lights on the way to my destination, and I decide to run an amber light and cut in front of a car driving more slowly that is halfway across the road. For an instant, I become the greatest evil in the universe for another person. It doesn't matter that I'm going to, say, console a depressed friend or buying pet food for my housemates' puppy. That person I just cut off might react in a way that passes on evil down a chain, and I might feel guilty and give some money to a charity to atone for my alleged transgression, which might be embezzled by a guy. You just don't know.

None of this happens in the movie, but things like that do. Good people are shown in the worst light, and bad people are shown to be capable of isolated moments of goodness as well. A couple of people (one Latino, one white guy and one black woman (woo! Balance!)) are pretty much All Good, which is a little annoying but does provide some kind of anchor that might well be necessary for the film to work as it does. Some good people suffer, some bad people get very lucky; some people live to learn from their mistakes, others suffer for the mistakes of others. Some good people (though not many) survive without even so much as a scratch.

It's a complicated life we live in, and depending on your mood this film could make you very depressed. Luckily I was fortified with a good meal and a comfortable chair and chocolate ice cream, so I was fine.

I think the movie succeeds brilliantly. Without being excessively unfair to any character (although it is in places unfair) it shows life in all its disastrous, occasionally random, frequently unpredictable and occasionally stunningly fortunate glory.

Its aim is to showcase racism and it does that. The set-ups to a couple of the scenes are fantastic and in any other movie would appear contrived almost beyond belief, but here they are so ingrained into the theme that they don't appear manufactured, they're basically required.

It's a great movie. It has trouble ending because it has so many characters' arcs to resolve (or at least bring to some sort of resolution), which becomes obvious after the sixth or seventh false ending. And in one part it over-labours something that could best have been left subtle. But that's about all I could complain about.

It was clever, it was enjoyable, and it had depth. 8.5 out of 10.

Dbauch
08-Feb-06, 05:10pm
saw it in Brazil and really rated it... loved the pace and the way it was shot.

Spitchen
08-Feb-06, 05:11pm
I enjoyed it. I give it 4 stars Margaret.

Bekay
08-Feb-06, 06:01pm
saw it in Brazil and really rated it... loved the pace and the way it was shot.
Nice way of letting us all know you have been to Brazil ;)

Good film though, I really enjoyed it. It was very moving in parts

Dbauch
09-Feb-06, 09:35am
pfft did I mention I didn't get to see any films when I was in Argentina though? bummer :P

Davomaxi
09-Feb-06, 10:49am
Its aim is to showcase racism and it does that. The set-ups to a couple of the scenes are fantastic and in any other movie would appear contrived almost beyond belief, but here they are so ingrained into the theme that they don't appear manufactured, they're basically required.


Great review but I have to say I did find some of the scenes contrived and not-believable in a hollywood kind of way (i.e. the little girl not getting shot and Ryan Phillipe shooting the guy was too predictable). The endings ruined it for me. just my 2c

Lambretta
09-Feb-06, 11:07am
It's a complicated life we live in, and depending on your mood this film could make you very depressed. Luckily I was fortified with a good meal and a comfortable chair and chocolate ice cream, so I was fine.

I dont know why, but that part of the review made me laugh out loud. I think that has more to do with my love of comfort foods than anything else. Pass the Maltesers please.

A great review of an excellent film.

I give that review 8.5 out of 10 too :P

onRi
28-Mar-06, 02:45pm
i just watched this the other week. sensational film

ianwil1976
28-Mar-06, 02:52pm
Great review but I have to say I did find some of the scenes contrived and not-believable in a hollywood kind of way (i.e. the little girl not getting shot and Ryan Phillipe shooting the guy was too predictable). The endings ruined it for me. just my 2c

Indeed. Racism viewed through a celluloid glass is best when it's subtle; Crash lays it on so thick it's suffocating.

Most over-rated film, and most undeserving best picture, in years.

Xpose
28-Mar-06, 03:03pm
Indeed. Racism viewed through a celluloid glass is best when it's subtle; Crash lays it on so thick it's suffocating.

Most over-rated film, and most undeserving best picture, in years.
nah for me that's what made it, i had heard nothing before a chance hiring thus was not over-hyped at all.

the fact that it was laid on so thick, so extreme for mine was the entire point. A more subtle telling of societies prejudice would have been lost amongst the masses of films.

vintage yahtzee
28-Mar-06, 03:23pm
Indeed. Racism viewed through a celluloid glass is best when it's subtle; Crash lays it on so thick it's suffocating.

Most over-rated film, and most undeserving best picture, in years.

Agree completely. As one review I read somewhere said, Haggis makes every action of every character in every scene racially motivated, reducing the message into a series of propagandist corporate videos on tolerance.

The themes were far too complex for this filmmaker - but then I thought Million Dollar Baby was majorly overhyped too. He seems to lack the ability to create realistic characters with depth, who are neither good nor bad.

As for Crash, I can't believe so many people were 'moved' by this piece of OTT garbage. Definitely worst Best Picture in years.

SKYCRUISER
28-Mar-06, 03:25pm
Indeed. Racism viewed through a celluloid glass is best when it's subtle; Crash lays it on so thick it's suffocating.

Most over-rated film, and most undeserving best picture, in years.i tend to agree with those comments, the first time i watched it i was quite blown away with the film, with all good films you watch them a 2nd time and you quickly learn that what you enjoyed seems not as appealing. I think what sucked me in the first time was the score to the movie, sensational mood music, really plays on your emotions...when i watched it the other day and managed to desensitise myself from the music i found the film far less interesting. i'd go so far as to asy it was quite boring.

ianwil1976
28-Mar-06, 03:31pm
An example of why I hate it: Sandra Bullock's character's revelation that her maid is the closest thing she's got to a friend...but she's *gasp* Hispanic!

Excuse me while I stab myself in the ear with a pair of scissors.

laszlo
28-Mar-06, 04:10pm
My review:

LA/US centered schmaltzy story about racism. At times contrived, at times confronting at times even brilliant.

However as an Australian I wasn't gobsmacked by the movie. I kept thinking yes, important issues behind the characters of universal applicability, but they're American and I really don't want to hear any more about the sociological ills in that country. Rap n RnB saturation has made sure of that. The ghetto philosphers, hispanic plumbers etc were really LA specific. I do wonder what the applicability of the movie would have been in Wyoming even. Cultural imperialism aside, as a "let's wash our dirty laundry in the open" effort, I rated the film. It's not all milk and cookies with honey over there. And good on em for sayin so.

However as an Australian I prefer to see films that deal with Australia. *cough* Rabbit Proof Fence *cough* Look Both Ways *cough*

3.99 outta 5.

mxmai
28-Mar-06, 04:18pm
i only saw 20 minutes of it before deciding it was poorly written, badly acted crap.

maybe one day i'll bring myself to watch the rest. but i really doubt it.

mxmai
28-Mar-06, 04:21pm
Indeed. Racism viewed through a celluloid glass is best when it's subtle; Crash lays it on so thick it's suffocating.

Most over-rated film, and most undeserving best picture, in years.

spot on.

DANCINGDI
28-Mar-06, 06:22pm
Indeed. Racism viewed through a celluloid glass is best when it's subtle; Crash lays it on so thick it's suffocating.

Most over-rated film, and most undeserving best picture, in years. Racism in real life is certainly not subtle and a racist's views do colour everything they do. If the beach scenes from Cronulla showed up in a hollywood movie they would probably be viewed as being over the top as well.
I loved the movie and yes, the music score was part of that, but that's the way it is supposed to work.:)

Just thinking , talk about Australians and the tall poppy syndrome, everyone loved it until it won an Academy award :lol:

laszlo
28-Mar-06, 06:26pm
Most over-rated film, and most undeserving best picture, in years.

Hehehehehe yeah but hang on what were the alternatives?

Movies about:
Gay Cowboys.
A Brilliant Gay Writer tipping into decline.
Standing up to fascists in the government.
Or realising the extrajudicial killing policy of Israel is a bogus response to terrorism.

In the U ESS OF A anno domini 2006?

I think the Academy went with the safe option mate. ;)

Remember kids racism is bad mmmmmmmmkay? Don't worry about those other complex themes that make you think. Racism is baaaaaaaaaaad Mmmmmmmmmkay?

LuvDatPoontang
28-Mar-06, 06:51pm
Just thinking , talk about Australians and the tall poppy syndrome, everyone loved it until it won an Academy award :lol:

well i only saw it for the first time over the weekend. didn't think it was that good.

Davomaxi
28-Mar-06, 07:21pm
Just thinking , talk about Australians and the tall poppy syndrome, everyone loved it until it won an Academy award :lol:

I certainly didn't love it as you'll notice from my previous post before the oscars so BOO to YOU

gymboxer
28-Mar-06, 07:35pm
well, I think it is a very well made film.

The score is truely excellent, and I think better than BBM (although i liked that too).

Racism is not subtle (see e.g., Cronula). The idea behind the script was for the actors to say what usually is not actually said. It was deliberate scripting. It was, in part, designed to set up the mental frameworks of the characters, to make them 'bad', or 'good'. The movie then sets around to show that the social world in fact much more complex than this. Racist, sexist pigs can also be heroic, and give incredible support to others. Good guys can do bad things in the wrong circumstances - t\our sterotypes will come out and undermine our good intensions if pushed enough. What is says about people is definitely transferrable to others.



The cinematography was excellent, with great editing. The opening credit sequence was superbly designed!

Does it say anything new? Well of course not. But I havent seena film for years that does, because films do not usually present new ideas (unless film is the only place one gets to examine ideas cos you never read, etc....)

dAvoZ
28-Mar-06, 10:52pm
Most over-rated film, and most undeserving best picture, in years.Damn straight. The only reason it won was because voting for it made the Hollywood elites feel good about themselves.

Tyler Durden
28-Mar-06, 11:46pm
I hated it. I saw it last year at the cinema. I felt like screaming at is attempt to force emotion from it's audience, and the dialogue seemed like the actors were reading from a queue sheet off screen, an empty feeling which could only be explained by the fact that its story revolved around the characters explaining in entire sentences exactly what they were feeling in every scene of the film. I don't understand why this movie was so popular, as its blatant attempt at ripping off other films with similar 'parallel narrative' structure seemed way too familiar. (magnolia for example, also set in LA)


1/10 from me.. sorry, i just really did not like this movie. :(