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awesome stuff - anyone using it?
if so - thoughts?
(:
Jude May
17-Mar-06, 10:36pm
ive used it and love it.
its just like djing but it dosent streach the arms as much as 2 crates of reckerds :lol:
Excellent software, as close to vinyl as you can get, check out DJ Decks for a cheaper option, especially if you already have a sound card with 4ins and 4 outs...
http://www.djdecks.be/index.php
SilverStreak
18-Mar-06, 12:16am
It looks o.........k..........( fuck that was hard for me to say) but its kinda weird having 2 records with no sounds on them.
All I wanted to do was chuck on one of my records (containing other peoples music)...like normal :)
djwazza
18-Mar-06, 03:48am
I use it all the time, and love it. :)
ive used it and love it.
its just like djing but it dosent streach the arms as much as 2 crates of reckerds :lol:
YEP!
defanutley
18-Mar-06, 10:04am
aahh mr hunter I own ssl and it is the bizz , it takes a fair bit of time to set up your crates or itunes library but once your set up theres no stopping to how far this software goes, find someone who owns it in your area and give it a go,
Commando Sting
18-Mar-06, 11:24am
just as a question,
anyone using SSL and live?
would like to hear some comments if so
i am a 'miss' hunter...
...and what's the diff between serato and final scratch then?
hpstekno
18-Mar-06, 12:34pm
final scratch uses traktor which is a fantastic peice of software and has heaps of bells and whistles but is let down by integration and as a result is a bit hit and miss on the stability side of things for some people it works flawlessly for others it sucks ....
SSL is very basic and straight forward and it does what it's designed to do very very well ....
basically they do exactly the same thing
sting using SSl and live would be no different to using 2 turntables and live except you'd need 2 laptops serato does not spit out a midi clock to sync if thats what your wondering
serato = dope
has everyone installed the 1.5 beta? I might do it this weekend
final scratch uses traktor which is a fantastic peice of software and has heaps of bells and whistles but is let down by integration and as a result is a bit hit and miss on the stability side of things for some people it works flawlessly for others it sucks ....
SSL is very basic and straight forward and it does what it's designed to do very very well ....
basically they do exactly the same thing
sting using SSl and live would be no different to using 2 turntables and live except you'd need 2 laptops serato does not spit out a midi clock to sync if thats what your wonderingsuper
thanks oodles
djwazza
18-Mar-06, 03:58pm
I've been using the latest 1.5 beta at home, but still using 1.4 to play out as they reckon they're still sorting out some small issues. I haven't had a problem with the 1.5 beta yet..
DJ Fusion
20-Mar-06, 09:47am
Yeah I've been loving the beta and abusing the hell out of the loop function. It hasnt glitched on me once either, I cant see anything 'beta' about it.
vedicrishi
20-Mar-06, 01:01pm
just as a question,
anyone using SSL and live?
would like to hear some comments if so
I have been doing some "early days" experimenting with this and my DJM600.
Channels 2&3 = Serato
Channels 1&4 = Live
I use live to trigger short samples, noises, pads etc. I also had a mic heavily ladened with FX which was great fun. Apart from beatmixing from Live to SSL, this setup worked well.
In another experiment, I had SSL running into Live and used live as a mixer controlled from my midi keyboard. I also use Bome's midi translator to make SSL midi capable. This allowed me to DJ with laptop and midi keyboard only - no decks, no cdj's, no mixer. However, much prefer using a real mixer, despite all the cool effects I could implement using Live.
Tha Gooch
20-Mar-06, 01:40pm
i play out using serato weekly
and besides the pain in the arse of plugging it in, i have no problem recommending it.
also weekly more and more bigger labels are cluing onto the advantages of digital download - check out beatpirt for some of your fav. labels or artists and see whats available to you.
HERCULES555
22-Mar-06, 11:01am
^
Is it an ordeal or major problem plugging in serato and removing serato if you have some one playing before or after you?
Has this ever caused any incidents?
HERCULES555
22-Mar-06, 11:04am
I have been doing some "early days" experimenting with this and my DJM600.
Channels 2&3 = Serato
Channels 1&4 = Live
I use live to trigger short samples, noises, pads etc. I also had a mic heavily ladened with FX which was great fun. Apart from beatmixing from Live to SSL, this setup ...
Was this with two lap tops or just the one?
Tha Gooch
22-Mar-06, 11:36am
nah you get it down to a rfine art the change
ist just when there is in-built - coffin type arrangements where you cant get to teh back of the mixer
have you noticed abar's is all dismantled with the screws taken out - i did that for me :)
is serato 3 deck compliant?
Tha Gooch
22-Mar-06, 07:35pm
is serato 3 deck compliant?
dude i dont know what your tryin to say?
capable is probably a better word for it... i was most likely drunk at the time i posted that
djwazza
23-Mar-06, 12:01am
no its not
TurntableTech
23-Mar-06, 06:01pm
2 x Laptops and 2 x Scratch Live's is 4 deck compatible :haha:
be good if it could output midi clock - audiotelex aint one of our major suppliers and I have to pay for Serato if i want to try it... boooo :(
spose i could just look in the bloody catalogue tommorow
Serato Scratch just released 1.7 beta of their software with some nice improvements, haven't used it yet as i want to back up everything properly......
- Key Lock (no more chipmunked vocals)
- Subcrates (been waiting for this)
- Auto Gain (nice feature if it works, need it on some of my tracks)
- Auto BPM detection (superb)
- Improved performance with CD players (meh, don't have them)
Misc changes
- Added "play next song on vinyl flip" option. When you flip the control vinyl with this option enabled the next track will be loaded, the same way as it would using the "Auto" function.
- You can now edit a field on multiple tracks, in the library track window. Just select a few tracks and any change made to one field will apply to the entire selection.
- Fixed a bug so that moving backwards from the first track in a crate with autoplay on no longer causes the first track to be skipped.
- Jumping to cue points or needle dropping while censoring now behaves in a more predictable way.
- The master gain knob now resets to zero on exit.
- There is now a delay of 1 sec on switching back to Rel after emergency internal, after the needle is dropped.
- Improved accuracy of the "estimate" button
- Crates can be dropped onto prepare list
- iTunes playlists that aren't visible in iTunes no longer show up in Scratch LIVE
Subcrates
You can now drag and drop crates into other crates to make subcrates. If you drag a crate to the very left of the crate panel, it will stay in the top level of the subcrate structure, just like in version 1.6. If you drag the crate a little to the right, onto the name of another crate, it will make the crate you are dragging a sub crate of the other crate. Try dragging a crate onto other crates, the display will tell you where it is going to go. Remember that how far to the left or right makes a difference.
There is a new option in the setup screen, called "include subcrate tracks". If you have this option turned on, any crate will also display the contents of all its subcrates.
We also support iTunes folders.
Key Lock
The Key Lock on/off button replaces the label color button, at the top right corner of the Virtual Deck. (see below for info on how to change label color). When Key Lock is on, the key or pitch of the song stays locked at what it would be if the track was playing at normal speed, regardless of the platter speed of the turntable or CD player. Key Lock has scratch detection, so that it automatically turns off when scratching for a natural scratching sound. F5 and F10 will turn keylock on and off for the left and right decks respectively.
Keylock is also assignable on the TTM 57SL
Auto gain and auto BPM detection
Auto gain and auto BPM detection both work in similar ways. Both are part of the overview builder process. If the auto bpm box is ticked, when the overview builder makes the overview, it will also calculate the BPM and write it into the BPM tag. If the auto gain box is ticked, the gain setting stored per file will be changed.
If the overview is already built, the gain and auto BPM features are not used. Remember that you can force the rebuilding of overviews, and thus apply the auto gain and/or auto BPM by dragging tracks onto the build overviews button. We will not set the BPM value for a given track unless it is confident that the value is correct. If, after attempting to set the AutoBPM for a given track, no BPM value is entered, please enter the value manually using Tap Tempo.
Changing label color
Changing the label color is now done in the main library. Click on the label color - the 2nd column in the library - and the popup window window will appear.
Editing multiple tags
If you select multiple tracks, and edit a tag, that edit will be applied to all the selected tracks.
Snapping to beats
Looping now snaps to the beats. Nice tight loops every time!
CD player mode
We’ve made several changes to the way Scratch LIVE works with CD players. You will notice the responsiveness has improved all round – hot cues and looping on your CD player will be much tighter. Pressing play after pressing cue should also be significantly more responsive.
A much better way of DJing with one turntable!
When using Instant Doubles with internal mode, the pitch will get transferred to the second deck as well as the playhead position. This makes it easier to DJ using a single deck. ( Start playing your song on the left deck with the turntable, then instant double over to the right deck, then fade to the right deck. Voila, the left deck is ready for a new track.)
With this program do you have to rip your vinyls onto your laptop/PC or can buy buy tracks of beatport or whatever and use it like that?
You have to rip your vinyls.... beatport downloads only work on pioneer CDJ1000mk3s
Ohh, ok i thought you could play any sound file through the program and use it like vinyl.
Ohh, ok i thought you could play any sound file through the program and use it like vinyl.
X(
Are you taking the piss
House Atreides
29-Dec-06, 09:44pm
Play nice kids....
Tha Gooch
30-Dec-06, 09:03am
hmm keylock with turntables :) giddy up!!!!!!!!
...tonights gonna be fun !!!!!!!!
Donnie Darko
30-Dec-06, 01:52pm
i have heard about some people using programs like pcdj and some random soundcard to achieve the same result in an effort to save some money...
but it seems that in the end your better off forking out the extra ca$h for this well thought out system (serato)
anyone else whos been there (tried other methods) care to confirm?
It's an awesome feature and works well
RZArector
30-Dec-06, 02:06pm
ohheerrrr
DLing the new patch now
The looping functions freakin awesome now... no more crappy loops it always snaps to a proper loop.....
Jack1591
31-Dec-06, 01:01am
just bought a macbook pro. how do i set this up to use software such as this.
(yes ok fling me all the noob jokes) haha.
wills85
31-Dec-06, 12:12pm
just install the software - only takes about 2 mins.....plug the scratch live interface into ur USB port and install the driver....and connect ur decks to it of course.
just as a question,
anyone using SSL and live?
would like to hear some comments if so
Paul van Dyk :)
The way Serato calculates their auto gain? (What do the more experienced producer guys think??)
"OK - We use the same algorithm that mp3gain uses (the "replay gain" algorithm) to equalise tracks to have approximately the same perceived loudness during adjusted playback.
We do everything that mp3gain does, except we have a slightly less aggressive bass roll-off: we'd noticed that often hip hop, drum and bass and some dance music would seem a little too loud after adjustment because it has very intense low frequencies which the standard replay gain algorithm ignores. We were thinking especially of a club situation when we made this adjustment - if we just wanted the MP3s to sound the same through compurter speakers, and not high powered speakers and subs, then we could have used exactly the same curve as the standard repllay gain algorithm...
Secondly - a lot of the mp3 auto gain programs out there directly modify the MP3 data itself. They change the gain byte in every MP3 frame in the file. We didn't want to modifiy peoples MP3 files, so we instead write out an ID3 tag with the auto gain adjustment. This makes undoing the auto gain easy - simply reset (or even delete) the tag. Reseting the track gain inside Scratch LIVE will do this for an individual track.
Thirdly - we choose a value of 92dB to equalise all the tracks at - this was choosen because thats roughly what modern mastering is targetting. The replay gain spec states a value of 89dB, but that sounds too low compared to modern music (it's more like the level CDs were mastered to in the late '80s). It's really jarring to, say, listen to three tracks that have been auto gained to 89dB and then come across a track that hasn't been run through the auto-gain algorithm - it's better for a mixture of auto-gained and un-auto-gained music to sound roughly the same volume we think."
What do the more experienced producer guys think??
i think you should turn it off and use your monitors and your cans, then lastly the indicator on the mixer.
stockie
02-Jan-07, 08:29am
i just recently brought serato (second hand for $550) and i love it. i downloaded the software version 1.6.2 (i like to always stay one behind on software releases), and i had it installed and running in about 2 1/2minutes. i couldnt believe how easy and straight forward it was to install and use. The only time consuming bit was setting up the crates. i havent set mine up properly yet, as i just threw all my songs into one crate (i will organize it shortly). my laptop specs are bare minimum (and i mean bare minimum, i dont know how it can run so smoothly). Anyway, i used it at a party i did on NYE and it rocked hard!!! Only issue was that for some reason, my laptop kept rebooting every 2hrs (on the dot). At first i thought it was a corrupt music file playing in serato that crashed it, but then i would reload the song and it would work fine. i guess its time i brought a better laptop.
Would i had paid $950 for this product brand new???
Damm straight i would had :)
Bassbunker
02-Jan-07, 02:41pm
Sorry to all if this seems a basic question,
Does a loop count as a track?
From my understanding you are limited to 2 tracks on Serato so does the loop count as one of these.
I am still debating with myself over which way to go in regards to changing to a digital set up,
either with Serato or Ableton.
I like the easy of using TT as controllers and this would be easy from my partner to continue having a mix when she wanted as it would be an easy for her to pick up,
But I wanted to add a little extra to my sets including having the ability to play more than 2 tracks simultaneously.
I think if Serato had the ability to use 2 decks and have a 3rd or 4th track controlled by a midi controller this would be a winner combination. This way you could lunch accaplella's and loops without compromising your 2 main decks so to speak.
Or this they’re an easy external way to create a midi cloak from Serato?
...Or is this something that possibly scratch 2.0 will do?
Cheers,
Bassbunker
Sorry to all if this seems a basic question,
Does a loop count as a track?
From my understanding you are limited to 2 tracks on Serato so does the loop count as one of these.
I am still debating with myself over which way to go in regards to changing to a digital set up,
either with Serato or Ableton.
I like the easy of using TT as controllers and this would be easy from my partner to continue having a mix when she wanted as it would be an easy for her to pick up,
But I wanted to add a little extra to my sets including having the ability to play more than 2 tracks simultaneously.
I think if Serato had the ability to use 2 decks and have a 3rd or 4th track controlled by a midi controller this would be a winner combination. This way you could lunch accaplella's and loops without compromising your 2 main decks so to speak.
Or this they’re an easy external way to create a midi cloak from Serato?
...Or is this something that possibly scratch 2.0 will do?
Cheers,
Bassbunker
The olny way you can do this is with two latops and two sl1 soundcards...
Serato doesn't support midi yet hopefully in release 1.8 of their software
But i just got the soundbite micro, so now i can set a loop up in serato, copy it over into my micro then load up next track or whatever, Cheap three deck option $350-$450 SB Micro
Stanton is unvieling Final scratch 3, which will probably have 3 deck mixing (if they were smart)
Tracktor 3 has 4 deck support and you can run two channels with final scratch 2
Can u buy serato new for $850 anywhere? Most places i c r over $950.
Store dj .com had it for $850 not long ago
im using serato itch with my numark v7s solid !!!!!
nice thread resurrection dude :thumb:
slackas
04-Jan-12, 04:07pm
im using serato itch with my numark v7s solid !!!!!
Stop it! No one cares about your shitty numark controller, and your shitty version of serato that only interfaces with said controller.
:haha:
Stop it! No one cares about your shitty numark controller, and your shitty version of serato that only interfaces with said controller.
:haha:
lmfao dont hate cause u know how to push play and stop...:hooray:
slackas
05-Jan-12, 09:26am
I use turntables.
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