Behringer B-Control DEEJAY BCD2000

[chico_brisbane]

Warning: Bare with me people!

So i dont mind having a muck around with Ableton and Virtual DJ in my spare time but using a keyboard and mouse to mix makes me sad. I'm stupidly poor (uni) and looking at getting a mixer/midi controller to use with my laptop. Having a look at this as it fits the budget and I really don't want anything flash at the moment.

Few questions:
1. Do i need to get an external soundcard to use this?
2. Will it work with Ableton so i can use 2 channels?
3. Do i need a mixer as well?

Sorry about the noob questions but please give me some constructive feedback. Link below

http://www.storedj.com.au/products/product.php?id=889

[Bracko]

read the specifications and you'll be amazed at what you learn ;)

have a look around for some other midi controllers that are essentually a box of knobs and sliders, the BCD attempts to be the solution to everyone's problems.... and being behringer kuality it fails in most aspects.

it will break. it will sound average.

but if you want something to fuck around with and look good infront of your mates, then go ahead they're a lot of fun... but they're not a serious unit

[Neo_]

^^^ what he said.

[DJ Fusion]

I'm getting one along with some midi translator software, $250 is too good not to grab one and muck around with. :)

[Neo_]

Its actually a damn fine controller for traktor. i would use another audio interface though.
Do you want to get it to work with serato???
Would be curious to see how it pans out. Keep us posted :thumb:

[DJ Fusion]

Video demo:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8920096200963358238&q=bcd2000

Sold. :D

[DJ Fusion]

I'm new to Midi, is this possible?

I have SSL, 2 x 1200s and my laptop.

If I hooked the BCD2000 up to the laptop via USB but didn't route my decks through it, can I still map all the Midi functions to Serato?

ie using the buttons on the BDC to punch in and out of loops, hit little reverses and stuff?

If you guys had my setup (2 x decks, SSL, DXM06) how would you integrate this unit into your setup?

Maybe I need a new 4 channel mixer so I can have 2 x 1200s and SSL, and then 2 x virtual decks + FX from the BDC or so I can have 2 x 1200s and then drop Midi loops and samples from Ableton or Traktor over the top of my mix.

[DJ Fusion]

A mate got his yesterday and sent me a quick vid of him mixing a loop (autoquantitized no less) over a track with a hi-pass filter on one channel and a low-pass filter on the other, both with custom parameters, I mean WTF for $250 this could possibly be the best DJ toy ever!

I cant wait until mine gets here, even if it just sits connected to the home stereo so I can get up and drop fx and samples over my favourite songs it'll be worth it, although I might consider getting a 3-channel mixer so I have 2 decks with serato and the BCD as my third source. Plenty of usage options to consider.

[djtoastytraxx]

that baby is serato all in one!!! Quite a step down though in a few aspects!

I wonder if you can buy vinyl like mspinky and mspinky software, set your playlists in the software interface and use the intergrated usb 4 channel on the BCD like seratos amp!?? Using two Tunrtable decks to scratch like serato but through the bcd2000?

Actually you cant i just realized, the BCD acts as the turntables like the turntables on SSL!! there ya go lads.

[DJ Fusion]

I'm not sure, but I think what you could do is have 2 decks, this mixer, mspinky vinyl and software and then map the mspinky track selection functions to the mixer, so you could use the mixer to cycle through the songs and add them to the decks + all the builtin fx of this unit, which is still fairly cool for only $250.

[Bitsmasher]

Video demo:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8920096200963358238&q=bcd2000

Sold. :DIN THE REDS! :slap:
This unit is dirt cheap, and even though I'm looking to buy a comprehensive MIDI controller, I'm sure some interesting usage could be had out of using it for something other than controlling DJ software.
Time to look at the manual and see how deep we can dig with it.

[DJ Fusion]

Yeah it really takes a bit of digging too.

So far I've seen some really great templates for using this with Traktor, DJdecks, Ableton and Serato but it can take a little bit of stuffing around with third-party apps to get all the functions mapped. Specifically Midiyoke and BOMEs Midi Translator to get all the scratching functions form the jog-wheels.

[Neo_]

Yeah i think im sold from that demo also....
The lounge chair digital deejay.... the next generation...

[N4TE]

yeah this midi for the masses thing behringer is into works for me. and, once again, like to point out I've had a BCF pretty much since it came out and I'm still waiting for it to either fuck up or for the cunts pointing it down because behringer happen to make really shit audio gear to shut up. Their midi controllers are fucking great. buy one, it's not like under $300 bucks is a lot of money for a chance to tell me I'm telling lies.

[djtoastytraxx]

wtf!

[DJ Fusion]

BCD2000 get!

I cant hook it up to a PC until tonight but first impressions are SOLID. The knobs have a great feel, cross-fader is nice and light, the only thing I'd say is that the channel faders could use a little more resistance, I'd hate to accidentally bump one in the mix.

I'll probably have a quick bash with the supplied BDJ software first but I think I'll be moving onto setting it up Traktor pretty soon. Proper impressions later.

[inditisipity]

ive had one of these babies for about 2 months now, does anyone know how to assign the jog wheels in ableton for it though?

[DJ Fusion]

Not yet but I'll be trying to at some stage - how are you finding the unit overall?

[Neo_]

the whole direct x plug support got me... so many cool things you can do with this little toy.

[inditisipity]

yeh a good lil piece of goodness. not only for mixin aswell, but as a midi controller aswell which i love! for the price this machine is insane for what u can do with it! yeh the direct x supprt is fantastic, so u dont have to limit urself to standard mixer fx like flanger, delay etc. as it also has a microphone input u can use the machine as a vocoder aswell! behringer mixing program that comes with it is ok.....but im using traktor 3 for it and it owns. im suprised none of u have gotten one sooner! definately a lil toy to have :) not to mention u can rig up 2 external cdjs or turntables with it , and use it as a mixer with full direct x plug in capability for fx, the possibilities are endless yall!

[saad]

i'm gettin one, no money, but ill put on layby.

Ive jus tread specs, its a four channel audio interface, and it has two phono preamps.

So you should be able to hook it up to ur compter, ad use ms pinky and timecoded vinyl to control digital audio, ala SSl. Or am i missing something?

[chico_brisbane]

Thanks for the input people, i'm definetely looking into it now! Let us know how you go with it.

[Dj DeKay]

Heaps of features without the hefty price tag ;)

[djtoastytraxx]

its got some latency though, just to put a spanner in the works! :trucker: good for a muck around.

[Neo_]

umm have you used one....
the Behringer Software is pretty good, With Traktor its the shit!, no latency what so ever.

No spanners here mate. :thumb:

[djtoastytraxx]

well i mean i havnt used one, but i reckon theres a bit of latency if your comparing it to scratch live or better soundcards i bet theres a difference, plus ive been told you couldnt use it for a live gig as it wouldnt be suitable due to its slightly slow reaction time, roomer has it...........but hey you say its good it must be good!

[N4TE]

latency, resistance or lag with the faders?

http://www.behringerdownload.de/B-Control_download/BCD2000-driver-setup-1-1-1-0.exe

upgrade the firmware dumbass.

[Dj DeKay]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/Surferdamian2000/burnt_toast.jpg


i smell toast burning.. *runs

[DJ Fusion]

Had a quick bash on the BDJ software last night and using the BCD is AWESOME FUN! Loops n fx are easy to use and sound great, especially the loop-halving ala Fatboy. :D

I didnt have any latency issues either but I'm gonna be setting it up with Traktor 3 today anyway as the BDJ software was doing some weird things with a few of my MP3s.

[saad]

has anyone got this to work with a mac?

[saad]

also, can u use it as an audio interface for recording into a sequcner or audio editor etc?

[inditisipity]

a mate of mine tried it with mac, no go. but if u have virtual PC it would work.

[DJ Fusion]

Well this unit is great so far, and colour me surprised but I've had no issues at all with the BDJ software either. I did a 40 minute mix last night using the inbuilt recording feature which turned out fine and the loops and fx are all ace.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4909/bcdsv0.jpg


Couple of small samples, nothing meant to be sounding too pro at this stage just fuckin around...

Using a beatchop and flanger on that coldplay remix (200k)

http://home.exetel.com.au/djfusion/html/beatwawreck.mp3

Loopin it up with an old style rock remix (800k)

http://home.exetel.com.au/djfusion/html/loopsnfx.mp3

Still working out Traktor settings at the moment but I'm nothing but impressed with this unit, for $250 it can do some real damage to your tunes and its damn fun to muck around on. :D

[Spectrum]

a mate of mine tried it with mac, no go. but if u have virtual PC it would work.

Are you sure it'll work with Virtual PC? :)

Does anything music-production-based that relies on efficiency and low latency work with Virtual PC? ;)

[ekwipt]

It works perfect with DJ Decks i've read give it a go on the demo, some guys have got the full config files on the forum as well

[N4TE]

re: does it work with mac?

not yet, from what I can gather using a little known search engine called google (hidden away at www.google.com) Behringer plan to release core audio support in 4th quarter 2006. Given Behringer's typical delays between touted release dates and actual ones for just about everything that starts with a B, you can take it to the bank you should have core audio suport via driver upgrade some time in 2008. ;) but do check back with behringer around the end of the year anyway.

[DJ Fusion]

BCD + B-DJ software with http://www.antarestech.com/products/filter.shtml = :drool:

http://www.antarestech.com/images/filter_UI.jpg

I now have that midi-synched to the bpm counter on the BCD, all assignable to the 4 midi knobs and this thing just became so much more powerfuler!! I haven't tried anything too complex with it though (coz I dont know how) so Im certainly not testing the filters limits (pun intended :P ) but so far it's all :-D .

[DJ Fusion]

My demo mp3 samples were deleted by exetel, you can grab them here now:

http://home.exetel.com.au/djfusion/html/BCDsamples.zip

[stubs]

so bottom line, worth the $250? I'm def. considering one with tax comming back

[DJ Fusion]

Definitely, it's the closest you'll ever get to sounding like a James Zabiela live set for under $300. :D

[stubs]

You should do promotions ;)

haha, well i know im getting one:thumb:

[Neo_]

Fusion i think thats almost sig worthy....

[DJ Fusion]

Hehe, still lovin my BCD2000 btw, got some new directx plugins to play with too - heres some more samples of me wreckin my tunes up with it:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=4084ED6A2E877961

[DJ Fusion]

Trying to imitate the JZ scratch on the BCD

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=EF055C1C318A0503

although its hard to keep my beatcutting and wah midisynched when Im scratching coz the loop sampler doesn't sample the effects, just the loop.

[Donnie Darko]

ive been googling this and im very impressed
im definately keen to get one

fusion where did you get yours for 250?
somewhere in the south?
im near the shire..
lightsounds wants 285...

anyone got a hot lead on a good price? :)

heres the official link btw,
http://www.behringer.com/BCD2000/
life size photos and a 360 degree function

[DRi_2004XL]

well i mean i havnt used one, but i reckon theres a bit of latency if your comparing it to scratch live or better soundcards i bet theres a difference, plus ive been told you couldnt use it for a live gig as it wouldnt be suitable due to its slightly slow reaction time, roomer has it...........but hey you say its good it must be good!

If you listened to The Club (http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/club/default.htm)on JJJ on Friday night you might have heard a mix by Ian Nearhos (this mix in fact: http://segwist.com/?p=5 ) which was an ableton mix done with the BCD as interface and controller. Its interesting to watch it used live given the prejudice typical of Behringer gear but no, theres no crippling latency. I know people want to believe its a complete toy but it works, its stable and it sounds good. It has its limits but thats up to the user. Ian hasnt had problems with it at any recent gig (aside from what we all do sometime... plug our interface in a different port and watch the drivers go crazy). But anyway, tried and tested week in and week out. Does the job. Shame about the mapping of the controllers though.

[DJ Fusion]

Donnie I got mine from storedj.com.au

And thx for that link DRi!

[Donnie Darko]

thanx for that link dri!
very encouraging words

thanks for the link fusion!!

[inditisipity]

i got mine from musiclab for $250 :)

[qert079]

holy moly jeez!

i sold that immediately after i bought it when it first came out because the software was crap. it had hicups and shyte like that but urgh... i think i'm gonna buy that baby back. :p

[DJ Fusion]

The latest version of the BDJ software has just been released:


Some of the new features/improvements:

* new HQ Master Tempo
* new HQ beat-sync algorithm
* unlimited lists number
* disk explorer (browser)
* support for M4A(aac) and MP4 songs ( only if iTunes is installed -- www.apple.com/itunes )
* when iTunes is installed even the mp3s with problems load ok
* equalizer band-frequencies adjusted ( 20Hz-320Hz low; 320-4.2KHz mid; 4.2KHz-22KHz high )
* additional stability bug fixes

http://www.xylio.com/site/index.php?lang=eng&page=bdj/home.html&lpage=bdj/left_menu.html&rpage=

edit - great update, the new EQs roll off beautifully.

[cruisysloth]

It still hasn't arrived X(

[cruisysloth]

Guys what is latency?

Fusion you look like you know all on this product so when it finally arrives I might have to pick your brain as I'm a MASSIVE music/dj novice

By the way I got mine for $236.95 off eBay brand new from DJ City.

[Neo_]

Latency is the amount of time between performing an action and the action being completed.

Ie: you move a fader/ knob and the on screen display/ or desired response to sound happens shortly after.

[djboganofbeatz]

Im going to wait a few months to see what the main problems will be, Unless it is a win for behringer

[Neo_]

:meh:

Its been proven to be a slid little performer... why wait as at the end of the day its still a midi controller... you can tell it what to do.

[DJ Fusion]

Cruisy let me know when you get yours, I'll send you some great directX effects for it and help you out with its little quirks.

Bogan, they aren't changing the hardware and I doubt it'll get much cheaper than $250, if you're keen you may as well jump in now.

[inditisipity]

Fusion! im still awaiting that zip file u promised me ;)

[DJ Fusion]

Oops! Was it directX effects for the BDJ?

Here you go mate:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=7DE669813F6686DB

:thumb:

[m3mbran3]

I was wondering how many of you had this set-up with Traktor? I was thinking it would be a good all-in-one unit for mixing mp3s. I have done a bit of research and it seems like it is a pain in the ass to set-up. Does anyone have it set-up excactly how they want with jog wheels set for scratching/cueing?

Also how does this go with use in Cubase and Albeton Live. Is it easy to set-up for controlling vst's? And will there be any conflicts if using the FA-101 with keyboard as a midi controller and the bcd2000 as a midi controller as well or are you only able to use one midi device at a time?

[wyzest1]

I have it set up in traktor exactly like I want it to be. Jogs work well. If your after a way to make it work, I can post a small zip file that includes everything needed to have it set up in a pretty useful way. Only problem is ill have limited internet access over the next month, so you may have to wait.

[cruisysloth]

So with latency, does that have anything to do with the speed of your computer or it just has to do with your midi controller and the quality of mp3's you use?

Cause my computer has fckall spare memory and runs pretty slowish compared to modern ones

[cruisysloth]

Any help?

[chico_brisbane]

Would be a bit of a mix but the computer speed would be the major problem. What are your computer specs? eg. cpu, ram, hdd etc

[DJ Fusion]

Yeah definitely a mix, latency isnt that important though, unless you're Q-Bert there isn't a lot of real-world difference between 4ms and 10ms.

[cruisysloth]

Would be a bit of a mix but the computer speed would be the major problem. What are your computer specs? eg. cpu, ram, hdd etc


I'll check it when I get home, but it's fkn shite!! It's soooo old

Approx on memory space

C Drive 40Gb Capacity - Free Space = 32Gb
D Drive 80Gb Capacity - Free Space = 700meg
G Drive 40Gb Capacity - Free Space = 2Gb

So i'm not doing myself any favours with the free space


As dumb as it sounds how do I check my specs when I get home? (As you can tell i'm no computer wizz!)

[djboganofbeatz]

Bogan, they aren't changing the hardware and I doubt it'll get much cheaper than $250, if you're keen you may as well jump in now.

ha ha, I have to buy a new mixer first, My alto mixer just dropped dead on me (expecting it to anyway), I maybe want a vestax PCV-275 or sumn (wrong thread for this discussion).

[chico_brisbane]

Right click on My Computer and go to properties, should tell you there. Are you in Brisbane? if so, where?

[cruisysloth]

Okay copy/pasted from right clicking on My Computer

AMD Athlon(tm) XP2100+
1.73Ghz, 1.00Gb of RAM

And my memory space is

C:\ Total Size 39Gb - Free Space 29.6Gb
D:\ Total Size 111Gb - Free Space 771Mb
E:\ Total Size 35.4Gb - Free Space 2.04Gb


Cheers :thumb:

[chico_brisbane]

Seems like a decent computer, will do the job with the BCD2000. Are you experiencing any latency? Example, a delay between shifting the fader up quickly and the sound coming out of the speakers?

[cruisysloth]

No i'm not. How long will the delay be? I'm going to try and learn how to beatmatch/dj on this BCD2000. With latency I fear that maybe this might be really hard work?

[DJ Fusion]

Get a stop watch out and try and stop it at 10ms and you'll see how little latency will effect your mixing. :)

[cruisysloth]

Awesome, thanks heaps for that :thumb: :)

And fusion going off my computer specs it (computer) should be right to run the DJ software well etc. I shouldnt have any problems?

[DJ Fusion]

Yeah mate that should be fine, I've run my BCD off worse specs than that with no probs. :thumb:

[cruisysloth]

Fusion check your PM's ;)

[cruisysloth]

Do I have to go out and buy some new audio cables to run from the BCD 2000 to my Stereo?

I thought I could just use the same cord that I run from my stereo-computer when playing my music through AUX on the stereo. Will this do the trick?

[chico_brisbane]

Yeh pretty sure you will need a new cord. 2 Red and White to 2 Red and White. Thats an easy way to put it.

R&W->R&W

[cruisysloth]

Aha, I think I already have one of those

At the moment I've got just a Red & White to One plug so 2 to 1. I think i've got a 2 to 2 floating around here somewhere

[cruisysloth]

Still haven't recieved it X(

[cruisysloth]

It's finally here!!! MY brother just picked it up from Post Office, can't wait to get home and play with it!!

Fusion CHECK your PM's. Can you send me whatever you were gunna send me to help me with it. Can you send instructions as well as i'm not the best in the world at installing cracks n all that stuff

[phunkstar22]

I can't wait to get one! :zabiela: Ill put it on lay by next week. New toy!

[cruisysloth]

I can't wait to get one! :zabiela: Ill put it on lay by next week. New toy!


Phunk try getting it off eBay. Mine cost $236.95 ($219 plus $17postage)all up, much cheaper than io've seen anywhere else.

[phunkstar22]

Aren't they $250? I might have to pay a bit more so I can layby!

[cruisysloth]

I got mine from DJ City on eBay for $219.95 + $17 Postage. So $236.95

There's none up at the moment but i'm sure there'll be some soon.

There is one up at the moment but that's not from DJ City and yeh that's $250.

[chico_brisbane]

check out www.storedj.com.au they are $250-$260 on there. Going to take me about 3 years to save up for one, bloody poor uni student....

[phunkstar22]

Hey good thinking.....a friend owns storedj....discount!!! (maybe)

[cruisysloth]

So I finally got it. And I couldn't work out why it wasn't working, but then I hadn't installed Direct X 8.1

Finally got it working.

But one problem i've had is sometimes it sort of skips/stops the tracks. It's as though the processor semi-freezes for a split second, I was thinking this is because maybe all my songs are on a 80gb hard drive which has only 800meg free. Stupid I know. So I thought maybe if I clear that all up and theres more free space it'll run better. My computer/windows etc doesn't run off this 80gb hard drive it runs off C:\ which is 40gb with 31gb free. Thats why I thought processing etc wouldnt be a problem

So i've transferred one song folder of house to C:\ and am gunna try and run it through there and hopefully that'll make it go better

Fusion check your pm's, can you send me those things you were going to send me ;)

[Heist9000]

Quick Q:

What are some alternatives to this that are aiming in a simmilar direction (i.e: Midi Controller as a dj mixer)

[m3mbran3]

the original midi controller dj mixing all-in-one was the hurcules. All reports i have heard indicate that the bcd2000 is much much better and they are around the same pricepoint.
The only other alternative i know of is the Allen and Heath Xone 3d but that is in another world at $4500
Basically the BCD2000 is good enough for basic mixing and abit of lame scratching. It has a kind of toy-like feel to it as it is not built to the sturdiest of specifications. The inbuilt soundcard is rather poor but you can use the computers soundcard or alternative usb/firewire based soundcard.
But in the end for $250 its a great value package.

[cruisysloth]

Fusion I'm having trouble working out how to play the song and then send it back to the first beat that i'm setting the cue at.

Should I not set a cue and then it'll go automatically back to the start of the track?

Just to make it easier to go straight back to the start when trying to beatmatch

[DJ Fusion]

Yeah it took me a bit to figure that out. I use back-to-top to quickly jump back to the start of my songs but to set a cue point you need to make sure you have a clear point by choosing one of the blue cue point indicators in the BDJ software, right-clicking and choosing 'delete cue'. Now we know its an empty slot, get your track to where you want your cue and then press the 'cue' button on your BDJ. You'll see the cue light stay on to indicate theres a cue point set for that slot and a red line appears under your song wave-form to show you where in the track your cue point is. Pressing the cue button again at any time while you've got that cue point selected from the blue buttons will make it jump back to the cue. Another way to delete your cue-point is to hold the cue button down for a second or two on your BDJ.

Kind of confusing to write out but it should make sense when you try it. :)

[cruisysloth]

Okay I think I kinda did that last night in about 20 different combinations and it didn't work, I'll try again when I get home. Do I need to stop the song playing before sending it back to the cue point?

Also with the effects, do you have to load effects onto the machine? It doesn't seem to have any, not that i'm worried cause that'll be the last thing I need to use!

And that file you were gunna send me, what was that for?


Also with beatmatching etc. do you use the pitch slider or do you use the pitch bend buttons + and - ?


Also should I plug my cords into the Master Output or into the Analog Outputs if i'm playing it through a shitty cd player/stereo with no amp? Would this be why it's been glitching when playing songs?


Cheers :thumb:

[Heist9000]

http://www.futuremusic.com/news/images/xone3dtop.jpg

WANT

[DJ Fusion]

>>>. Do I need to stop the song playing before sending it back to the cue point?

No, shouldn't need to.

>>>Also with the effects, do you have to load effects onto the machine?

Yep.

>>>And that file you were gunna send me, what was that for?

It was some extra directX effects to use.


>>>Also with beatmatching etc. do you use the pitch slider or do you use the pitch bend buttons + and - ?\

I use the pitch slider, and a combination of the pitch bend buttons and/or the jog wheel for fine manual bpm control.


>>Also should I plug my cords into the Master Output or into the Analog Outputs if i'm playing it through a shitty cd player/stereo with no amp? Would this be why it's been glitching when playing songs?

I'm just using the master output, but whatever you use and whatever you plug it into shouldnt have anything to do with your songs glitching, that sounds to me like your PC is just struggling under the load.

[cruisysloth]

So if it is my PC struggling under the load? What will I need to do to fix it?

More memory? New processor?

[DJ Fusion]

Yeah disable any non-essential startup services (start -> run -> msconfig) and see if that helps because your PC is definitely powerful enough to run it without glitches.

[cruisysloth]

Okay i've done everything you said fusion and it's still fkn up!!!

FARKKKKKKKKKKK X(

[DJ Fusion]

Hmm, quick checklist:

latest driver from website
latest xylio software
master tempo box unticked
latency on around 10ms
BCD2000 not selected in the control panel as your playback/recording device
no other apps like bit torrent running in the background
mp3s stored either on the same drive as the software or on a USB2.0 external drive

Maybe try it out on a mates PC to see if its your PC or the unit causing the issue too, past all that I'm not much help soz. :(

[chico_brisbane]

Yeh dude that list covers pretty much everything, I don't see how the mp3's would be skipping if you can't see them skipping on the BDJ software :S . Try another stereo aswell as another computer...

[cruisysloth]

Hmm, quick checklist:

latest driver from website


I've got Direct X 9.0 installed and i've got the latest version of BDJ 1.1



latest xylio software

What is this?


master tempo box unticked

I couldn't find this last night in control panel? All I could find is the settings for either BDJ or Advanced and then tabs along the top like MIDI etc?


Hmm, quick checklist:

latest driver from website
latest xylio software
master tempo box unticked
latency on around 10ms
BCD2000 not selected in the control panel as your playback/recording device
no other apps like bit torrent running in the background
mp3s stored either on the same drive as the software or on a USB2.0 external drive

Maybe try it out on a mates PC to see if its your PC or the unit causing the issue too, past all that I'm not much help soz. :(



latency on around 10ms

I've tried it at mid (23) and high which is like 40. Still skipping


BCD2000 not selected in the control panel as your playback/recording device

I THINK it's not selected. will check when i get home


no other apps like bit torrent running in the background


Yep disabled everything


I'm starting to think it's my piece of shit stereo causing the problem. Will try it on our other stereo although that's just as big a piece of shit.

[DJ Fusion]

Soz, by Xylio software I meant the BDJ application, grab the latest version here:

http://www.xylio.com/site/index.php?lang=eng&page=bdj/home.html&lpage=bdj/left_menu.html&rpage=

theres some directx effects at that link you can use with your BCD too, and I'll bundle up all the different skins, fx and config files I've got and link it up for you soon too.

[cruisysloth]

It's still not working X(

Tried it on another stereo, admittedly just as shit as the other one, and still was skipping etc.

Would playing it through an amp and then speakers make a difference that playing it through two different shitty stereo systems?

Am starting to think my computer just can't hack it. boohoo :(

[DJ Fusion]

I really don't think it's your amp, it seems like the computer might be under too much load but it should be fine according to your system specs. I think there's a guide somewhere around here about optimising your PC for audio software, see if you can find it.

In the meantime I bundled up all my fave directX effects and skins for you (excluding the .dll effects you can download directly from the xylio site), grab it here:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=5F80DEE53704FF43&rcpt=djfusion@exemail.com.au

[chico_brisbane]

Try another computer then. If that fails, give it to me for $150 :D

[cruisysloth]

I'll try another computer this weekend, fingers crossed it fkn works.

The only other computer we have though is a sack of shit, or my sisters laptop (which will be going to sydney soon)

Will try other ones and see what happens

[cruisysloth]

It finally worked, albeit on my sisters computer. Still won't work on mine, dunno why, pretty gutted as I have about 100gig of songs I wanted to play with. Will have to transfer them over to my sisters computer and just play with that for a while!


Also did I read somewhere that you can adjust how good the pitch range is? Because when I move the pitch control even a tiny bit it jumps like .6 of a bpm etc making it nearly impossible to match the beats

[chico_brisbane]

Bad luck about your computer, just wack all the songs onto an external harddrive. They are cheap as chips these days, check ebay or www.umart.com.au or one of the other cheap online computer stores.

The pitch increments should be able to be altered, I'm not 100% sure myself. Only need to save another $200 before i can get one myself :'(

[DJ Fusion]

Yeah I think the pitch range defaults to 12% or something but I've changed mine to 6%.

[cruisysloth]

How do I change the pitch control? Can't seem to find the settings for it anywhere??

[Ralph Wiggum]

After a few months of researching usb midi controllers, I finally bought myself one of these this afternoon and am very pleased, it does everything I expected it to and it seems to keep giving.

I'm not a dj or a producer by any means, but I love my music and wanted something to mix tracks with that was not a mouse.

Tried the application that comes with it, not to much of a fan of it, as I've been tooling around with Virual DJ quite a lot recently and I like what that does, but it's ok for what it is. It has been suggested that I try Tracktor, so will get myself a copy of that shortly.

All in all, very happy with it :)

Thanks for the link DJ Fusion, greatly appreciated :-D

I'll let you know how I get on with it.

(Purchased for $245 from Billy Hydes, Blackburn, Vic.)

[inditisipity]

hey all, rigged it up to ableton a while ago (my bcd2000 der!) and hooked up a resonator in ableton, and i got meself a vocoder :)

[chico_brisbane]

OMG BARGEARSE!!!!!! Points at Ralph Wiggum's avatar

[Ralph Wiggum]

Christ, was that me or the door?


Has anyone else tried using Virtual DJ with this?
What I've noticed when trying to map the midi controls in VDJ, is when assigning a button or control knob, that the assigned number (i.e. 1-13) is sometimes duplicated. For example, If I assign the Play/Pause button, it will also assign the scratch wheel as well? Very annoying and I have no idea why???

I will assume that it is only this application it is doing this in as the app that came with it works fine.

I've tried to use Traktor, but get a rather lovely blue screen of death as soon as I choose a midi controller. I will get that sorted out this weekend though.

I'm still happy with what it is and what I can do with it though :)

[DJ Fusion]

Apparently V-DJ 4 has native mappings for the BDJ but anything before that requires a bit of trickery to get going.

[m3mbran3]

Virtual DJ 4 was released last week without native support for bcd2000. There are pages of discussion in their forum by disgruntled users as it was promised that it would include native support. I'm holding out until either v-dj 4 or traktor works out of the box with the bcd2000. M-Audio torque will be released in a few months and it looks like it will be the best computer mixing program. Hopefully it will come with it's own version of the bcd2000 or at least come with native support.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Apparently V-DJ 4 has native mappings for the BDJ but anything before that requires a bit of trickery to get going.I've tried a couple of maps and made my own, but it actually appears to be the physical controller itself.
Example, when choosing a Stop command, I have used the "Back to Top" button, but when this button is chosen, it turns out that the LOW EQ on deck 1 also has the same midi number.
I laughed when I first noticed it and thought, hmmm, is it the software or the hardware..... I'm still thinking about it now.

I'll check out vdj 4 as I'm currently using 3.2.

Thanks :)

Edit: I'll also check through the VDJ forums too, cheers for the tip.

[DJ Fusion]

Virtual DJ 4 was released last week without native support for bcd2000.

One of the VDJ support team seems to think they've resolved/isolated the issue as being a result of people running other midi translators such a MidiYoke and also not properly uninstalling older versions of VDJ first.

http://www.xylio.com/site/forum/viewtopic.php?t=369

As for using Traktor, this works brilliantly:

http://cycokraut.wordpress.com/tag/bcd2000-and-traktor/

djDecks also has native BDJ support and is rock-stable but I still prefer the BDJ software, I don't have any issues running it on my PC and with a good custom skin like the CDJ1000 skin it gives me all the features I need without any hassles.

[cruisysloth]

I really don't think it's your amp, it seems like the computer might be under too much load but it should be fine according to your system specs. I think there's a guide somewhere around here about optimising your PC for audio software, see if you can find it.

In the meantime I bundled up all my fave directX effects and skins for you (excluding the .dll effects you can download directly from the xylio site), grab it here:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=5F80DEE53704FF43&rcpt=djfusion@exemail.com.au


Any chance you can repost that!!! It's expired!

Sorry for taking so long to get around to it.

[chico_brisbane]

Worked 20 hours this week, should have one of these bad boys within the month!

[ekwipt]

Adion just released a DJ decks Version so that you can control all three decks on DJDECKS using the BCD2000 nice!

[Ralph Wiggum]

Tried using Virtual DJ 4.0, wow what a difference, they have sorted out all the issues that I had with the midi mapping on version 3.2 and also the minor hiccups that I would occasionaly see. It is also a much more solid robust application too.

It turns out that 3.2 couldn't tell the difference with the assigning of "Keys" to "Notes" that are used by the Behringer. (At least that is my interpretation of it anyway.)

I've created a basic midi map which I have attached should anyone want to use it.

To install it, go to Config > Remote Control (Enable Midi if you haven't already done so.) > Config > Load and then load the attached .xml file.

I haven't assigned all of the controllers yet and haven't fully played around with the Search forward and backward nor have I done much with and of the Loop In or Out, but it's a good start and I'm now very comfortable in using this device with VDJ 4.

Thanks all for your tips :)

[chico_brisbane]

StoreDJ has run out of them until the end of the month, oh well. At least I can save a bit more. Lightsounds wants $289...

[m3mbran3]

Thanks for the update Wiggum. I think when i get some money i might actually purchase the bcd2000 and v-dj 4 now and i'll be mixing like nobody's business.

[Ralph Wiggum]

I've been playing a lot more with this in the last week and a bit orf an update with VDJ 4.

After a couple of hours of using this device, I started to notice an interesting noise emitting from my speakers when turning a knob a using one of the faders (in fact, anything). At first I thought oh no, this might be an electrical fault or something similar, so started to slag it off quite a bit. I tried it on my laptop and on my desktop and got the same problem.

I also swapped sound cards, from the BDJ to the onboard sound card and the problem is still there. I also recorded a few tracks to see if the noise comes through on the recording and it does.

I then tried back in the application that it came with, BDJ and it doesn't do it, works perfectly as it should. Hopped back into VDJ 4 and the problem has gone, but came back after about 10 minutes of use.

So this has me thinking, is this an issue with VDJ and it's midi interpretation? Is it a fault with the unit? or is it just me?

It's quite possibly not worth worrying about, but I'd really like to use this controller with VDJ 4.

Has anyone else had this issue?


Cheers :)

[Ralph Wiggum]

It would appear that this a very common problem with VDJ 4 and USB midi controllers in general.

For the worlds slowest forum, info can be found here:
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/54670/General_Discussion/____TO_THOSE_WHO_HEAR_NOISES_POPS_CRACKLES_UNDERBU FFERING____.html

I'll try their suggestions and post an update later today

[DJ Fusion]

I haven't used VDJ much with my BCD yet, but here's a mix I did in BDJ:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=6345F6716E2FFB34

1 (Intro) DJ Molla - I Don't Know (Alternative Mix)
2 Dallas Holloway - Red Wine Walls (Patrick Turner Mix)
3 Tahiti 80 - Big Day (Booka Shade Remix)
4 Solomun & Gebruder Ton - Bunte Blume
5 Jake Childs - Somebody's Watchin' Me
6 Ozgur can - let's do this again
7 Fairmont - gazebo (sebastien l ger remix)
8 Supermode - Tell Me Why (Patric and Timos Waiting for Sunrise Remix)
9 Super Flu - Switch Our Jumpers
10 Kirk Degiorgio pres Esoterik - Starwaves (Spirit Catchers Time Modulator Mix)
11 Nalin & Kane - Open Your Eyes [The Child Mix)
12 Graziano Avitabile - Nutshell
13 Random House Project - Freakin Me (Jon Gurd Remix)
14 Soulbrothers - Dasistdochgarnichtunserstil
15 Mashtronic - Force Original

90meg ~70mins

[cruisysloth]

Can somebody tell me how to change the pitch control?

I think fusion said it was set at 12% but I want it smaller as it's near impossible to get the bpm's exactly right. I can't find anywhere to change it????

[chico_brisbane]

If you're using Virtual DJ go into Config, Options tab then change the pitch range at the bottom left. No idea about BDJ sorry

[m3mbran3]

Payday on Thursday, the local music store has them for $250 so i think i might have to pick one up. Hopefully this will be the inspiration to get me back into DJing. My PA speakers haven't been used for years.

[cruisysloth]

I'm using BDJ and can't find anywhere to change it.

Maybe I need to get my hands on Virtual DJ, although i'd have no idea how to hook it up with the BCD 2000

[DJ Fusion]

I could've sworn it was under the main general options screen after you hit the 'config' button, isn't there a slider sitting at 12% which you can change to 8% or so? Or am I just trippin right off my guts?

[Nams]

If you guys are serious about making thr BCD 2000 work with Traktor 3 check the link bellow
I've been using this setup for over a month with no problems, and lets admit it the BDJ software by Xylio is a joke

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/forum_us/showthread.php?t=34513&page=31

[DJ Fusion]

Yep, already posted the direct link although I dont actually have any gripes or problems with the BDJ software. Here it is again..

http://cycokraut.wordpress.com/tag/bcd2000-and-traktor/

And if you can't be arsed going through Cycos setup steps here's an all-in-one installer for his Midi rules (but I haven't tested it yet)

http://bcd2000.blogspot.com/2006/09/installazione-di-midi-rules-per.html

Either way is heaps easier than using the Midiyoke/Bomes Midi Translator combo I've been using to get Traktor going for the past months... :P

[cruisysloth]

I could've sworn it was under the main general options screen after you hit the 'config' button, isn't there a slider sitting at 12% which you can change to 8% or so? Or am I just trippin right off my guts?


Your talking about using the BCD 2000 with the BDJ software? I can't even find the general options screen. The only screen I can find is the one that sets up like the audio. Advanced or BCD etc.?

[DJ Fusion]

Alright! We've found our problem then, looks like it was located somewhere between the chair and the keyboard all along hehe...

See here. Press this...

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5594/cfgch5.jpg

You get this...

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6872/cfg2jk2.jpg

You should be sorted now... :thumb:

[DJ Fusion]

No probs cruisy, glad I could help. :P

[cruisysloth]

Fark, how big a tool do I feel like!

Thank-you so so so so so sooooo much Fusion!!! :bow: :bow:

[cruisysloth]

Fusion you can't repost those effects you were going to send to me can you? Would love to be able to install them onto my BCD (are they hard to install?)

[DJ Fusion]

Yeah mate, I'll upload em again tonight for ya. :)

[cruisysloth]

Thanks!!

This time I'll be sure to d/l and install. Are they easy enough to install? I'm a bit of an idiot when it comes to audio and computers

[Ralph Wiggum]

bcd2000 and virtual dj 4, have I got it all sort of working...

Short answer, yes with a but.

It works ok, I used it this weekend quite successfully to DJ at my party, the quality was more than satisfactory, but I had to disable a few functions, that being the jog wheels and I couldn't get the headphone setup working properly.

I disabled the jog wheels as they really didn't jog or scratch anything, rather they forwarded through your track at a rapid rate making a really annoying screeching sound, better off without it, especially when using whilst drunk and stumbling about the place I also didn't use the pitch control to much either, as it to adjusts very quickly. I haven't at this stage bothered to play with the settings to make it a smaller increment, but I know that this can be done.

One thing I have noticed, that really shits me about this unit (And it's really the only thing) is the quality of the built in sound card, it's very poor. (Yes, a lot of you have bagged it no end, but I'm bored of hearing you all, let us be with this gear, it works fine as a midi controller) For example, when you start turning your EQ or Gain levels up, you start hearing some rather nasty distortion and it's definitely from the unit itself.
I now use the sound card output from my computer and use the BCD2000 as a midi controller only. Which I suppose does limit you in some ways.

Although in saying that, you can set up VDJ 4 to work quite well with your computers on board sound card if you have the right inputs and outputs like you would find on a desktop. Giving you full headphone control too.

I'm actually going to try this with my desktop later today and can let you know. I used my laptop on Saturday night with no headphones, but only as I really knew what my music was. Could pose a problem for some of you though, especially if you are used to the more traditional ways of djing.

There are a couple of bugs with VDJ4. I found that if I turned off "Safe Mode" it cleared nearly all of the errors that occured. The problems are to do with ANY midi controller connected to VDJ4 making an aweful scratching sound when you use a controller, but that should fix it. Let me know if it doesn't, more than happy to try and help. The default settings were changed by VDJ from versions 3.2 to 4 and they haven't said why?

I have found a version sitting here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KV3FJ2

As for the program that comes with it (Xylio I think), some really like it, but personally, I prefer VDJ, they really kind of got it right with this version for me.

As for the xml file that I am using, nothing has changed since the one that I posted earlier on in this thread, except that I have deleted the reference to the jog wheels.

Let me know how you get on, be keen to hear :)



One other thing to note, you cannot use any of the inputs on this device with VDJ, they are not supported. Not to sure if they will be either. Although I have done some trawling through the VDJ forums and they are saying that they may make the BCD2000 fully compatible, but no idea when this may or may not happen.

The other thing to think of if you are purchasing this unit, what do you really want to do with it? If you are just wanting something cheap to use when sitting at home like I do, then this may just be what you are looking for. But if you are wanting something that is remotely semi professional, then go and get something that is professional, you will be so much happier. as I don't think that this will meet your needs, you'd be better off looking at something like Serato (http://www.serato.com/products/scratchlive/)

More on that topic can be found in this thread: http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/showthread.php?p=390143628

[prosthetixxx]

This is a tad O/T, but I thought it was better to ask here than start a new thread.
Is the mic preamp on the BCD crap? I wouldn't expect it to be good at all, but I'm just wondering if it's clean enough to record a bit of vocals occasionally.

[cruisysloth]

Yeah mate, I'll upload em again tonight for ya. :)


Still waiting ;)

[Ralph Wiggum]

This is a tad O/T, but I thought it was better to ask here than start a new thread.
Is the mic preamp on the BCD crap? I wouldn't expect it to be good at all, but I'm just wondering if it's clean enough to record a bit of vocals occasionally.I haven't tried it and won't get the chance to do so for a couple of weeks now as I am moving house shortly.

But...

Going by the way this thing can distort at low volume when using the onboard sound card for general use, I would be quite hesitant about using to record anything. I could be completely wrong though. Only one way to find out hey.

Also, I haven't checked if the Mic preamp works indepently or not. The headphones certainly don't.

If you are looking for a cheap recording option, maybe use the mic input on your computer?

[djtoastytraxx]

Is there any way to set up the soundcard so it sends the manipulated signal back through the soundcard and USB cable into the PC, into a recording program, while you have the B DJ software, whatever, playing?

Iam thinking it would be impossible to have two signals going both ways through the soundcard, am i correct?

It should just do to save buying another soundcard.

[chico_brisbane]

Thought i'd give this a bump and see how everyone is going with their units. I'll be grabbing one just as semester ends. Don't think it will be a great help having one during exams.

[oliosky]

Got mine on friday. Its really good fun. Had a few issues with the updated software though with constant clipping of the mp3s. Not sure what thats all about but i just uninstalled and went back to the first version of the software and the issue went away. The comment about the EQs is spot on though, they roll off fucking quick, especially the mids. I think I'll try another update of the software tonight, or just use Traktor 3.

I'm also thinking I might just this thing as a CDJ replacement for the time being (being the tightarse that i am) and use the master out as a line in on my Tascam XS8 as hooking up my 2TTs to the BCD feels a bit weird... Really enjoying adding MP3s and loops to my mixes though :)

[Ralph Wiggum]

Got mine nearly all sorted.

I have it set up using the 2 sound card option, where I only use the BDJ for headphones and I use my laptops sound card which is surprisingly goodfor the main output. Shits all over the crap sound card in my desktop.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3922/vdjon5.png (http://imageshack.us)

(Where it says Primary Sound Card, it should say BDJ-2000, I didn't have it connected at the time I took the screen grab.)


I have also given up with the software that it came with, it just doesn't do it for me.

I did find a shareware app called "DJ Decks" that also works a treat, no need to assign anything, it works straight out of the box and is quite simple to use. It also has a 3rd deck which can be handy.


I still think it's a good unit for what it's worth :D

[Music_Pirate]

First of all, I must say that google video of the Behringer rep playing around with the BCD sold me on the idea, i thought it looked really cheap and stupid but he proved me wrong (as did those in this thread, great stuff!)

I am looking at getting into DJing and this just seems like a great place to start with the BCD!


I just had a few questions if you in the thread don't mind asnwering them :)


1. I noticed at hte back of the amp there is a master out which i prosume just goes to your source (an amp in most cases) but the Analogue Inputs (the two rca's), can this allow me to plug in other sources such as 2 decks, 2 cdj's or whatnot?

2. Is Behringer a good brand in general? I was looking at their mixers and when i saw the product originally it looked really cheap (combined with the price) which put me off it a bit. But from the responces in this thread it sounds like an awsome unit, so would I be safe to say the brand and the actual BCD isnt quiet to bad?

3.If i were to get this, would it be as good as say a sub $200 mixer if i were to use it with decks?

Looking forward to your great replies hehe

Cheers,

Jason

[Ralph Wiggum]

1. I noticed at hte back of the amp there is a master out which i prosume just goes to your source (an amp in most cases) but the Analogue Inputs (the two rca's), can this allow me to plug in other sources such as 2 decks, 2 cdj's or whatnot?Yes, the master output may be used on the back of this device. Be warned, it is not very powerful and has a tendancy to distort at low levels. At least mine does. Some applications will allow you to choose your output devices, like VDJ4. (See previous post re 2x sound cards)

There are a couple of ways to set this device up and they are dependant on the application (Music program) you are using:

Xylio, the application that it comes with, is the only way that you can use the onboard inputs to connect 2x phono inputs, or 1x phono and 2x cdj/mp3/other source (There is only 1 switchable input.)

If you choose to use any other program (VDJ, (Traktor that I know of) DJ Decks, etc.), you cannot use these inputs.
In my opinion, that kind of blows goats, as I would love to use them with VDJ4.


2. Is Behringer a good brand in general? I was looking at their mixers and when i saw the product originally it looked really cheap (combined with the price) which put me off it a bit. But from the responces in this thread it sounds like an awsome unit, so would I be safe to say the brand and the actual BCD isnt quiet to bad?In my opinion, Behringer make eletronic devices that don't have to create sound well. What they don't do well, is the quality of anything that has to creat or produce a sound.
Like the onboard sound card on this device. Suprisingly, the headphone preamp, is very good.
I have used a variety of Behringer mixing desks over the years for corporate installs and they have all served their purpose well. If anything else, their faders are weak as, but you do get used to them, like anything else.

3.If i were to get this, would it be as good as say a sub $200 mixer if i were to use it with decks?No. I don't think you should purchase this as a replacement to a standard mixer, more of an addition to what you already have/want.

Hope that helps you :)

[oliosky]

Answers to your questions from my experience with the BCD:

1. Yes, you can plug in 2 TTs into the analogue inputs but only one CDJ (or other line level device) as there is only a single line level input. Really silly design if yo uask me.
2. Behringer, especially their DJ gear, is notoriously sub par in their quality control and general workmanship, and the price reflects this. However, I have had no issues with my BCD thus far...
3. Personally, the BCD as a mixer, using 2 TTs, I find it a bit weird to use as the controls are very close together and I find the EQs roll off really abruptly. Also, its a bit of a pain having to boot up my laptop just to have a quick spin on my decks. But, considering what else you can get for $200 its probably OK to be honest.

I don't think you will regret buying one. Especially considering a piss cheap they are.

[Music_Pirate]

Hi Ralph,

First of all, thanks for the informative reply and quick responce hehe

So just to follow up what you jsut said, you can only have external devices such as decks or other devices plugged into the deck if you use the program it comes with?

I was wanting it to be able to hook up to my PC to allow its input and so on, and have it act as a normal mixer which would to connect up two decks. SO basically it would go

PC
.
.
Deck--------BCD--------Deck
.
.
Amp----Speakers

Now you noted about the sound quality and so fourth, i was just wondering is the main purpose of the mixer to play sound through the computer? Or to output sound from its master output to an Amp?

And how would a standalone mixer be better in regards to the BCD mixing the decks and working with my PC? (quality i guess but your the experts hehe)

Cheers,

Jason

[Music_Pirate]

Answers to your questions from my experience with the BCD:

1. Yes, you can plug in 2 TTs into the analogue inputs but only one CDJ (or other line level device) as there is only a single line level input. Really silly design if yo uask me.
2. Behringer, especially their DJ gear, is notoriously sub par in their quality control and general workmanship, and the price reflects this. However, I have had no issues with my BCD thus far...
3. Personally, the BCD as a mixer, using 2 TTs, I find it a bit weird to use as the controls are very close together and I find the EQs roll off really abruptly. Also, its a bit of a pain having to boot up my laptop just to have a quick spin on my decks. But, considering what else you can get for $200 its probably OK to be honest.

I don't think you will regret buying one. Especially considering a piss cheap they are.


Hey Oli, great reply also!

I would most probably get 2 TT's as there would be no need for a CDJ (to me anyway) as the BCD would allow me to mix all my tracks on my pc heheh

So the mixing side in regards to using it with 2 TT's is ok for the normal user? Just not as good/sophisticated as a normal mixer?

And that sucks a bit about the computer, i thought you could use it standalone but ohwell ive still got some time to think about it!

Thanks agian,

Jason

[cruisysloth]

Yeah mate, I'll upload em again tonight for ya. :)


Can you please upload again :)

[DJ Fusion]

Here it is!! Better late than never eh? Lemme know if you have any probs getting any of the effects loaded up and working:

http://home.exetel.com.au/djfusion/html/Audio.zip

:thumb:

[Music_Pirate]

hehe while there is some users/owners online,


Do you both have the sound comming from the computer (i prosume its default is to run sound with the USB back to the computer?)

Or do you both route it to an external source like an amp or hifi setup through the master out?


Cheers,

Jason

[cruisysloth]

Here it is!! Better late than never eh? Lemme know if you have any probs getting any of the effects loaded up and working:

http://home.exetel.com.au/djfusion/html/Audio.zip

:thumb:


Thanks mate, legend :thumb: :bow:

[DJ Fusion]

No probs cruisy.

And pirate I just run a cable straight from the master output of the BCD straight into my speakers, nice and simple. The default software has a big fat record button for easy inbuilt recording.

[Music_Pirate]

No probs cruisy.

And pirate I just run a cable straight from the master output of the BCD straight into my speakers, nice and simple. The default software has a big fat record button for easy inbuilt recording.

Cheers Fusion!

If you don't want to run to a hifi/amp setup, can you just leave the audio output from the speakers connected to you pc?


Thanks again!

[DJ Fusion]

Yeah I guess, you could use a 2 x RCA to 1 minijack cable and run it from the master out into your mic input if thats what you mean, but if you're using a couple of small PC speakers like I am then its probably easier/better sound to just run the cable straight into the back of those.

[Music_Pirate]

Yeah I guess, you could use a 2 x RCA to 1 minijack cable and run it from the master out into your mic input if thats what you mean, but if you're using a couple of small PC speakers like I am then its probably easier/better sound to just run the cable straight into the back of those.

Ahhh so you do have to run audio from the mixer via RCA to a source :-O



I thought it may off been able to play from source and just control from the mixer via usb, looks like i am going to have to setup my amp and bookies in my pc room now :)

[chico_brisbane]

^I'm pretty sure you can run the output through your computers soundcard. Go back a page in this thread and check the screen dump towards the end of the page.

[Donnie Darko]

so from what ive been reading.... anyone had any trouble with the internal soundcard? like ... found its limits?

the item dosent look too bad at all and id consider modifying one and replacing the internal soundcard with a higher qual one

[Music_Pirate]

so from what ive been reading.... anyone had any trouble with the internal soundcard? like ... found its limits?

the item dosent look too bad at all and id consider modifying one and replacing the internal soundcard with a higher qual one


Hmmm how could you replace the sound card in the unit with another brand? Its not like its a PCI slot :lol:


I guess if you could get it all done for under $500 you would still come out on top :)

[chico_brisbane]

Just trying to get some prices and what not before I buy one.

How much did everyone here pay for their unit and where from? Shipping etc?

[Music_Pirate]

Just trying to get some prices and what not before I buy one.

How much did everyone here pay for their unit and where from? Shipping etc?


Ebay is $238 plus postage, but most bought of www.storedj.com.au


They however are sold out !

[Donnie Darko]

if its a part, it can be changed ;)

[DJ Fusion]

so from what ive been reading.... anyone had any trouble with the internal soundcard? like ... found its limits?

the item dosent look too bad at all and id consider modifying one and replacing the internal soundcard with a higher qual one

For using it at home, the internal soundcard is perfect, anything better would just introduce diminishing returns on my Truths.

If you're thinking about using it in a club installation you need your head read.

[Music_Pirate]

if its a part, it can be changed ;)


haha just make sure you get some photos :P


If you do f$#K soemthing up, you could try and return it and go 'yeah the sound card in it kind of, you know, fell out" hahah :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Donnie Darko]

hehe.....

i was under the impression it could be used in a club... guess not then eh

[prosthetixxx]

Anyone still looking at buying one should check out allans music (if you're in sydney). I just got the nice glossy catalogue in the mail, and they're selling them for $260. If you went instore, you could probably bargain down as well. or hit up www.allansmusic.com.au


... oh if i had the cash

[Music_Pirate]

hehe.....

i was under the impression it could be used in a club... guess not then eh


Nothing stopping you, just the sound quality will be sub par compared to other mp3/midi controllers...


I think it would be fine, but be a bit of a bitch as you would need to take it, your lappy, set it all up etc


But it is still alot cheaper then buying say a xone 360 heh

[pisana]

Well, i haven't left the house all weekend after picking up my BCD on thursday. Apparently there's quite a shortage of them (in Melbourne anyway). I had to go to some great lengths to pick mine up, most stores indicated to me that a new shipment won't be arriving till late November.

Anyway back to the unit, i'm loving it, my only complaint would be that it's quite twichty (knobs and faders). Other then that it's a dream to use.

I had it running on Traktor with no problems at all, ableton on the other hand is giving me the shits. When midi mapping the faders and knobs it'll start doing weird sh*t and activate other buttons on the BCD :rainman:

Any way around fixing this?

[oliosky]

I can't even get Traktor to work :(

[OllieBrooke]

Here it is!! Better late than never eh? Lemme know if you have any probs getting any of the effects loaded up and working:

http://home.exetel.com.au/djfusion/html/Audio.zip

:thumb:
did you do loopsnfx.mp3 yourself? As in is that a bootleg of that track or have you layered it over a beat?

[cedekaina]

is skratching realistic on this console, i mean how it feels compering to real decks? should i just buy analog deck cause thats what im planning to do.

[wyzest1]

You will not become a scratch artist with anything but real decks or maybe top of the line CDJ's. Sorry.

There is no need to break this thing open to change the soundcard. All you need to do is get your own 4out soundcard and your sweet. just select a different device.
(pfft opening BCD and cutting circuit board in half then re-soldering new soundcard to chopped board.)

To anyone using traktor with the device - make sure you hit up the NI forums and get the midi-adaptor program designed to re-calibrate the way the signal is sent to traktor.

[Music_Pirate]

Just quick question while this is bumped up;

Can you learn to mix and beat match etc like you would on a normal dj setup (2 decks and a mixer)?

Cheers,

Jason

[chico_brisbane]

It's quite similar but then again the jogwheel doesn't spin like a record and there is a different feel i'd say. But i don't think you'd have alot of trouble making the transition between bcd and decks. Of course practice makes perfect...

[Music_Pirate]

It's quite similar but then again the jogwheel doesn't spin like a record and there is a different feel i'd say. But i don't think you'd have alot of trouble making the transition between bcd and decks. Of course practice makes perfect...

Thanks for the heads up ;)

[Music_Pirate]

Hey BCD owners,

I was just wondering if anyone would be able to get a video of them mixing it up on their bcd?

That would be pretty sweet if one of you could (I don't care if your shit, I just want to see some guy or girl having fun etc)

Cheers!

[chico_brisbane]

^ Youtube

[Music_Pirate]

^ Youtube

hehe damn I have been floating about on youtube all week and didn't think to look on there, thanks!


(I looked on google video but it only had the behringer guy demoing it!)

[Music_Pirate]

I thought I bump this thread up to save creating a new thread hehe


I have (finally) got around to playing with Ableton, and I was wondering is it easy to assign functions/buttons/knobs/faders etc on the BCD to functions in Ableton like i would with my keyboard?

Cheers!

[Music_Pirate]

Quick bump, would love a reply ;)


Cheers

[Skerik]

i'm sure theres a learn midi button somewhere in ableton... i remember setting it up for a client and it being stupidly easy to map

[Skerik]

just had a quick flip thru the manual... the answer is on page 288 :)

[Music_Pirate]

just had a quick flip thru the manual... the answer is on page 288 :)

I just looked up the ableton manual and nothing to do with it on page 288?


...unless you are talking about the BCD manual?

[Skerik]

which vers?
im lookin @ vers 6 - u want the chapter on "Assigning MIDI Remote Control"

[Music_Pirate]

Ahh found it :)

Edit: using an old copy as cannot afford 6 yet, so just playing around with 5 ;)


So I take from the pdf that the BCD would work fine with assigning things in ableton then?


CHeers

[del13r]

Using it mainly with NI's traktor 3.

I got the Jog wheels going with traktor

Had a little trouble with the sound quality in b-dj to start off with, turned out to be my wireless lan driver on my laptop and nothing to do with the BCD2000, uninstalled the Wireless lan driver, problem went away.

Other than that couldnt be happier with it.

For anyone else experiencing problems with sound, go here (http://www.native-instruments.com/forum_us/showthread.php?t=39136)

For anyone with problems with jog wheels in traktor, go here (http://www.native-instruments.com/forum_us/showthread.php?t=34513)

[del13r]

Hey BCD owners,

I was just wondering if anyone would be able to get a video of them mixing it up on their bcd?

That would be pretty sweet if one of you could (I don't care if your shit, I just want to see some guy or girl having fun etc)

Cheers!
i got pix of my girlfriend mixin if u want

[Music_Pirate]

i got pix of my girlfriend mixin if u want

Nah its fine man, i found plenty of videos on Youtube :)

[DJ Fusion]

i got pix of my girlfriend mixin if u want

Yes plz I'll take some of those. She's hot right??

[Music_Pirate]

haha Dj Fusion


Yeah I am up for some naked djing :P

[Donnie Darko]

i got one today! :-D

a bcd... not a gf... :P

[DarkNation]

Just wondering, I fuck around with Traktor a fair bit and my brand new 2 channel soundcard (not happy about that fuckup) means I'm pretty limited. Would it be worth buying one of these, or spending money on a proper DJ mixer to interface with Traktor?

[DarkNation]

nothing? :D don't make me start a new thread :P

[Donnie Darko]

anyone else feel that one jog wheel moves slightly differently to the other? or is it just mine :(

[Neo_]

Yes other users have reported such things.

[Donnie Darko]

well its certainly a cheap buy and a bit of fun for me so im not too phased

plus the difference is minimal

...now to configure it to traktor :stroke:

[Neo_]

Theres heaps of references for getting it to work, also check the NI forums

[oliosky]

I've had some issues trying to get traktor 3 to work with mine. Lots of Java issues....

DJDecks works really well straight up I've found.

[robism]

i just got mine today but im having trouble setting it up
its all plugged in and the sound is working out of the speakers
but the dials and buttons on the bcd won't work with b-dj
is there something i've missed out on ?
when i click on the buttons in the program it lights up the bcd but cannot control it from the actual hardware
and my headphones wont work either in it
argh i been waiting ages and now ive got more problems !

[oliosky]

Have youn read the manual and installed the drivers first?

[robism]

yeah i've looked thru the manual can't see anything wrong and all the drivers were installed off the cd

[oliosky]

Make sure you plug your BCD in, turn it on THEN start the software. Have you done things in that order?

[robism]

yeah i went over the drivers again and found the problem so that's working now
but the headphones are still not working
i got sony xd100s

[robism]

nevermind i figured it out
man im having a really dumb day

[ZedOne]

Does anybody know somewhere that currently has these in stock (in Vic) at a good price?

Best i've found is $299 on ebay..

Tried: Billy Hydes, Allans Music and StoreDJ. All out of stock.

Thanks.

[OdeB]

Just got my bcd2000, payed $299 from storedj, but who cares it's only $299!!! plus i got free shipping, took 2 days :),

Faders feel nice, though i found that one of the jog wheels was sticking due to the excess rubber, so a little trim should smooth it out.

So as far as using an external sound card has anybody used the bcd2000 through the Pro Tools M-BOX???

[DJ Fusion]

Sooo, I fired up the new Xylio Futuredecks Pro last night to test with my BCD2000.

If you're a BCD user you can get the full version for about $30, or about $100 or so for new users but it's definitely worth it if you have a BCD2000 and another Midi controller imo.

There's two main reasons I'm hot for this app right now, firstly it has VST effects support right from the .dll - awesome stuff. BDJ is limited to DirectX effects and the VST scene kills the DX scene imo. I've got Bitcrushers, Beatchoppers, Vocoders, the works.

Secondly it support external midi controllers. I now have my BCD2000 and my Behringer UXM25 Midi keyboard both connected at the same time. I'm assigning VST FX parameters to the midi rotaries on my UMX on the fly with the Midi learn feature and I'm assigning loop more/less and loop shift forward/back to the buttons on my midi controller - I've never had so much power to completely deconstruct and reinvent tracks on the fly without having to touch a mouse. It seriously is the bomb.

It still has some quirks, but for a 1.0.0.0 release it's hawt and I'm not looking any further for a digital mixing solution. :xmas:

[Donnie Darko]

have u tried the bcd with traktor yet fusion?

do u prefer the xylio setup?

[DJ Fusion]

Yeppers, I tried it with Traktor a while back and for pure beatmixing it was brilliant, but I couldn't find a simple way of integrating all the effects and looping onto the BCD. I've also tried it with VirtualDJ and Ultramixer and djDecks and none of them have really convinced me to stop using the supplied BDJ software until this one.

[Donnie Darko]

where did u get your xylio copy dude?

[DJ Fusion]

Check out the demo here man, but whatever email address you registered with (if you registered) is where they would have sent the special discount offer for BCD users to:

http://www.xylio.com/site/index.php?lang=eng&page=fdp/home.html&lpage=fdp/left_menu.html&rpage=

[Bitsmasher]

Cheers for the info Fusion... a mate has been going about learning to mix for a while, and is sold on the idea of a $300 piece of controller doing what $xyz other stuff would cost... this Xylio thing sounds like the icing on the cake for effects-heavy mixing, especially since he has a 16 knob controller already.

[DJ Fusion]

Yeah he'd love it. From what I can tell so far it seems like you can actually assign any number of effects to a channel and then you just hit the Learn button on the software interface, click any effect parameter you want, and then twiddle the knob you want, click the next parameter, twiddle the next knob, hit learn again to go out of that mode and then you have control over those parameters from your keyboard. So easy to do on the fly. :)

[Dj SteveWill]

Might have to download it and have a look.

I have tried it with B-DJ (of course), Traktor, Virtual DJ and dJDecks and by far the best so far has been djDecks.

Has the new Xylio Futuredecks Pro got Vinyl control?
Whats the pitch resolution like, and hows the master tempo, is it usable (unlike in B-DJ)?

[oliosky]

Fusion, are the EQs a bit more mellow in futuredecks? i found the EQs in both the original and updated versions of the BDJ software cut far too quickly.

[T-PHIL]

Hey Guys....

I'm just reading back through your posts.....some pretty intresting comments. Cheers :thumb:

Just a quick question to those who are using this controller with Live ??

Can the Jog wheels be used in a similar fashion to the Allen & Heath Xone 3D

(i.e. as a directional controller) ???


Thanks PPL

[Music_Pirate]

Hey can someone pm me the zip pack with all the effects? The links in the thread are dead now and Ive only got the one from the bdj site ;)


cheeeers

[ZedOne]

Having some problems with my unit...Only had it about a month.

Was working fine for about 3-4 weeks but just in the last few days some of the buttons have stopped registering with the software however still work on the BCD itself...

For example;
I have a song playing on Deck A. I Press Play/Pause and although the green light on the unit turns off the song keeps playing. I press it again and the light stays off and the song pauses.

I have to press every button (cuts/cue/play/pause etc) twice for it to work in the software (even though the hardware has realised I have pressed it).

This is only happening with the buttons (that I can see). Knobs and Faders are working fine...

Anyone else encountered this...?

Have just upgraded to the latest B-DJ software but it is still happening...

Thanks.

[Dj SteveWill]

Go into the drivers control panel and select b-dj mode (not advanced) it will then respond properly.

[ZedOne]

Go into the drivers control panel and select b-dj mode (not advanced) it will then respond properly.

:thumb: Thanks heaps mate.

[muzdogg]

What do you guys think about connecting one CDJ to the Behringer BCD2000, and using the comp for the other channel. I want to get a feel for CDJ's but can't really afford 2 and a mixer at the moment, and I already have a BCD2000. Would this work?

Cheers.

[Dj SteveWill]

Connecting up the cdj up to one channel works fine and will be ok for what you want.
Cheers,
Steve

[Donnie Darko]

okay so whos hooked this badboy up to ableton yet?

[Ralph Wiggum]

I haven't hooked up to Abelton, but have persisted with Virtual DJ 4 and am getting good results. In another forum someone posted a very basic Midi map which I have expanded to suite me.

Simply load (probably best not to merge) and check it out.

Updates included:

Scratching now works with the jog wheels, if a little sensitive.

All EQ's now work properly, (No pitch shifting of tracks when using the EQ's to quickly.)

Pitch Bend +/- on both decks now function properly.

Headphone monitor function changed to now actually fade properly between Deck A & Deck B.
(Use Tab key on your keyboard to change PFL between Deck A & Deck B)

"Back to Top" button functions as Stop and will go to the start of your track. If you have cue points, it will alternate between them.

"Sync Slave" button now actually works properly as a slave function as opposed to having to hold the button in order to get it to sync with your other track.

FX controls assigned:
Value A Button - Turn On/Off Loop Samples on Deck 1
Value A Rotary - Volume Loop Samples on Deck 1 Operates both Deck 1 & 2
Value B Button - Turn On/Off Effects on Deck 1
Value B Rotary - Volume Effects on Deck 1
Value C Button - Turn On/Off Loop Samples on Deck 2
Value C Rotary - Volume Loop Samples on Deck 2 Operates both Deck 1 & 2
Value D Button - Turn On/Off Effects on Deck 2
Value D Rotary - Volume Effects on Deck 2

"Loop Out" - Decks A & B are set to 4 beats
(This was originally set to Auto which would randomly select anything from 1/2 beat to 16 beats.)



Oh and I have literally given up on Traktor, it just doesn't work on either of my computers, some sort of hardware conflict and Xylio's DJ software even with the latest updates is just plain horrible in my opinion.

DJ Decks is a tidy shareware program that has native control with the BDJ-2000 and is quite good when it doesn't crash whilst using the 3rd deck :P

Virtual DJ for the win for thrashing out mp3's in the garage :blush:

Anyway, it is a shit load better than the last midi map I posted, good luck and any questions, please ask :)

[WhiteRabbit]

Lets not forget that Behri are bringing out the BCD3000 in the 2nd quarter, seems like it's just a minor spruce up, but hopefully some of the old issues are fixed :o You'll have to google for the links sorry, ITM doesn't think I'm responsible enough to post URLs yet, bah!

[Ralph Wiggum]

It's the same but different :P


http://www.behringer.com/BCD3000/index.cfm?lang=ENG


http://www.behringer.com/BCD3000/BCD3000_medium.jpg


Actually, this one does spec up a bit better and comes with Traktor 3 and is Mac compatible

It’s everything you ever wanted in a DJ production tool. It’s gorgeous, you can put your hands on it and the software is just irresistible.

The B-CONTROL DEEJAY BCD3000 DJ mixer lets you play, mix and scratch any MP3, WAV or other audio format with a real vinyl feel. Packed with mind-blowing features such as mixer, dual-player, effects, mic/phono preamps and a full-fledged monitor section, this 4-channel USB audio interface perfectly complements the included Native Instruments Traktor 3 LE DJ software or most other DJ software, running on Windows XP and Mac OS X operating systems. You've waited long enough. Go to your local dealer, and make sure this hot babe is yours.

Put your hands on and spin!

RRP AU$399.99

[robism]

are there any other programs which are automatically compatible with the bcd2000 ?
im kinda looking for something other than bcdj
too many bugs with it

[Ralph Wiggum]

I'm certain someone posted all the links on the first page

[robism]

i can't see anything
little help please ?

[AcidScarredSpaz]

My BCD 2000 is being a pain.

Im using it with the packaged software, latest upgrade.

Problem is that after a period, say 5 tracks, the bastard then stops being controlable, the buttons offer no response, even in terms of the light on the interface, and then weird stuff starts happening, like the jog wheel controls the pitch, or volume or somesuch weirdness.

It sucks if you are laying down a pretty nice mix and all of a sudden it goes looney.

Anyhow, suggestions and comments most welcome!

Thanks.

[Nams]

Yeah i can't wait to get the BCD3000. I've had the BCD2000 for quite a while now and have not a problem with it. I use it with Traktor 3... The setup is so good and reliable i use it in the club when i play on fridays.... Awesome controller for the price, once i get the BCD3000 I'll be using both and controlling 4 decks:rock:

[Music_Pirate]

hey guys,


Just wondering, if you play around with to many buttons at once, the BCD goes all loopy?


It pisses me off, if I am playing around with kill switches and faders, all of a sudden it freezes up, buttons start doing the opposite thing, faders swap direction etc (basically very weird behavior)


Anyone else getting this>?

[Donnie Darko]

see sig >>

:thumb:

[DJ D one]

Hum...I want one...It seems like a good machine...I'm probably going to do a few gigs back in my home town, so I need to travel light, unfortunately the decks are too much to take with me...this seems like a good solution...I was pretty negative about this before but well...for the sake of travelling light...

DJD1
My ten minute elektro mix here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_S8k5pS0-E

[Tristan W]

When is the bcd3000 coming out? It seems like it will be a great little unit especially with tracktor. Excuse my technical ignorance but have they scrapped the behringer mixing software for a tracktor setup that is all nicely synced up to the unit. I am no tech wizard so when I buy this thing would I simply install the software turn the unit on drag my mp3's into each deck then start mixing da 'fuckin techno':rock:

[Flame667]

Can any one please give me some advice in english on how to hook my BCD2000 upto VDJ4 search all over the net but nothing helpful in english at all. It keeps on comming up with a pop sumthign about an ASIO error or sumthing. and also in B-DJ every now and then the program will like lagg are what im doing on the unit will not do it on the program or the music and program will just freeze for like 20 seconds on average of every 40 seconds. Its a verry fun unti to play with in loving being abel to play with all my MP3's that are hard to find on vynil, its fun but i dislike yelling at the screen every 30 seconds because it freezes.

please not i have alredy deleted the Bome and Yoke registrey files, besuce it said to on the vdj4 forums too and still no luck.

[Ralph Wiggum]

When is the bcd3000 coming out? It seems like it will be a great little unit especially with tracktor. Excuse my technical ignorance but have they scrapped the behringer mixing software for a tracktor setup that is all nicely synced up to the unit. I am no tech wizard so when I buy this thing would I simply install the software turn the unit on drag my mp3's into each deck then start mixing da 'fuckin techno':rock:The BCD3000 is apparantly the exact same unit to the 2000 but in a different colour.

As for Traktor, I am glad they are moving to a known good piece of software and not continuing with their own, theirs is shit.

Can any one please give me some advice in english on how to hook my BCD2000 upto VDJ4 search all over the net but nothing helpful in english at all. It keeps on comming up with a pop sumthign about an ASIO error or sumthing. and also in B-DJ every now and then the program will like lagg are what im doing on the unit will not do it on the program or the music and program will just freeze for like 20 seconds on average of every 40 seconds. Its a verry fun unti to play with in loving being abel to play with all my MP3's that are hard to find on vynil, its fun but i dislike yelling at the screen every 30 seconds because it freezes.

please not i have alredy deleted the Bome and Yoke registrey files, besuce it said to on the vdj4 forums too and still no luck.The B-DJ, Xylio application, is shit. You will need a fairly decent computer to run it and It does freeze up often. I have noticed this more so since upgrading the software and drivers.

As for VDJ4, there is a bit of info here: http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=171029&page=3

Also try adjusting your config like this:

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4097/vdj2wz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

You could also be having hardware issues on your computer, dodgy ram?

Failing that, buy a registered copy, a lot of the cracked versions are plagued with all manner of nasties.

[DJ D one]

What I found attractive about the BCD2000 is the reasonable price ($250), now if you have to get traktor, that probably double the price of the setup...Just wondering if the BCD3000 was available in Australia, and if it would be cheaper to get it, or would it be cheaper to get a BCD2000 and traktor. Thanks for the input...
DJD1

[DJ D one]

Okay from what I get 3000 should retail for $399 with GST, and the 2000 is available for $251 on ebay

3000 comes with Traktor LE if you upgrade to traktor 3 it is USD119 from native site
2000 comes with Xylio if you upgrade to traktor 3 it is USD229 from native site

All in all it works out at about the following if you consider upgrade to traktor 3
3000 399 + 148= 547
2000 251 + 284= 565

I am not sure wether you can get 3000 yet, definitely worth considering the 3000 now.

DJD1

[apalaciosd]

I haven't hooked up to Abelton, but have persisted with Virtual DJ 4 and am getting good results. In another forum someone posted a very basic Midi map which I have expanded to suite me.

Simply load (probably best not to merge) and check it out.

Updates included:

Scratching now works with the jog wheels, if a little sensitive.

All EQ's now work properly, (No pitch shifting of tracks when using the EQ's to quickly.)

Pitch Bend +/- on both decks now function properly.

Headphone monitor function changed to now actually fade properly between Deck A & Deck B.
(Use Tab key on your keyboard to change PFL between Deck A & Deck B)

"Back to Top" button functions as Stop and will go to the start of your track. If you have cue points, it will alternate between them.

"Sync Slave" button now actually works properly as a slave function as opposed to having to hold the button in order to get it to sync with your other track.

FX controls assigned:
Value A Button - Turn On/Off Loop Samples on Deck 1
Value A Rotary - Volume Loop Samples on Deck 1 Operates both Deck 1 & 2
Value B Button - Turn On/Off Effects on Deck 1
Value B Rotary - Volume Effects on Deck 1
Value C Button - Turn On/Off Loop Samples on Deck 2
Value C Rotary - Volume Loop Samples on Deck 2 Operates both Deck 1 & 2
Value D Button - Turn On/Off Effects on Deck 2
Value D Rotary - Volume Effects on Deck 2

"Loop Out" - Decks A & B are set to 4 beats
(This was originally set to Auto which would randomly select anything from 1/2 beat to 16 beats.)



Oh and I have literally given up on Traktor, it just doesn't work on either of my computers, some sort of hardware conflict and Xylio's DJ software even with the latest updates is just plain horrible in my opinion.

DJ Decks is a tidy shareware program that has native control with the BDJ-2000 and is quite good when it doesn't crash whilst using the 3rd deck :P

Virtual DJ for the win for thrashing out mp3's in the garage :blush:

Anyway, it is a shit load better than the last midi map I posted, good luck and any questions, please ask :)

Hello, It seems you have solved a problem that have been pissing me off for a couple of months now, but I can not download your file... any installation intructions?? (sorry, I don;t have MIDI knowledge)

Thanks,

Chorri

[apalaciosd]

I haven't hooked up to Abelton, but have persisted with Virtual DJ 4 and am getting good results. In another forum someone posted a very basic Midi map which I have expanded to suite me.

Simply load (probably best not to merge) and check it out.

Updates included:

Scratching now works with the jog wheels, if a little sensitive.

All EQ's now work properly, (No pitch shifting of tracks when using the EQ's to quickly.)

Pitch Bend +/- on both decks now function properly.

Headphone monitor function changed to now actually fade properly between Deck A & Deck B.
(Use Tab key on your keyboard to change PFL between Deck A & Deck B)

"Back to Top" button functions as Stop and will go to the start of your track. If you have cue points, it will alternate between them.

"Sync Slave" button now actually works properly as a slave function as opposed to having to hold the button in order to get it to sync with your other track.

FX controls assigned:
Value A Button - Turn On/Off Loop Samples on Deck 1
Value A Rotary - Volume Loop Samples on Deck 1 Operates both Deck 1 & 2
Value B Button - Turn On/Off Effects on Deck 1
Value B Rotary - Volume Effects on Deck 1
Value C Button - Turn On/Off Loop Samples on Deck 2
Value C Rotary - Volume Loop Samples on Deck 2 Operates both Deck 1 & 2
Value D Button - Turn On/Off Effects on Deck 2
Value D Rotary - Volume Effects on Deck 2

"Loop Out" - Decks A & B are set to 4 beats
(This was originally set to Auto which would randomly select anything from 1/2 beat to 16 beats.)



Oh and I have literally given up on Traktor, it just doesn't work on either of my computers, some sort of hardware conflict and Xylio's DJ software even with the latest updates is just plain horrible in my opinion.

DJ Decks is a tidy shareware program that has native control with the BDJ-2000 and is quite good when it doesn't crash whilst using the 3rd deck :P

Virtual DJ for the win for thrashing out mp3's in the garage :blush:

Anyway, it is a shit load better than the last midi map I posted, good luck and any questions, please ask :)

Hello, It seems you have solved a problem that have been pissing me off for a couple of months now, but I can not download your file... any installation intructions?? (sorry, I don;t have MIDI knowledge)

Thanks,

Chorri

[apalaciosd]

Hello, I use FutureDecks Pro with my BCD2000, anyone knows where I can download skins for this sw??... the original one is really ugly

thanks

Chorri

[Dj SteveWill]

Check the Forum at the Xylio site (www.xylio.com)
I know there are some for FDPro on there.

[trashy]

It's the same but different :P


http://www.behringer.com/BCD3000/index.cfm?lang=ENG


http://www.behringer.com/BCD3000/BCD3000_medium.jpg


Actually, this one does spec up a bit better and comes with Traktor 3 and is Mac compatible



RRP AU$399.99
after having a jam with ralph's at my joint and then him pointing out the 3000 is mac compatible i will be getting one of these...:-D

thanks joe...:thumb:

[DJ D one]

Really keen on a BCD just wondering if I should wait for the 3000 or get the 2000, I am just wondering if the original software that come with the 2000 is good enough? Any opinion will be appreciated.

DJD1