quality dubstep

[mxmai]

yo

there's a thread in the breaks forum, but since a few of us e/d/e kids have been mentioning some nice dubstep releases, i thought i'd start us a thread.


as per the other threads, i've been diggin'...

burial - burial
boxcutter - oneiric
milanese - extend
plasticman's may 2006 mix (this is FIRE)
moving ninja live @ frigid
skream - skreamizm

plus digital mystikz have dropped a few good ones lately, and a couple of kode9's mixes have been dope as.



your turn.

[Funkedub]

I'm no good with keeping up with new releases and such ... i just know i dig these sounds emerging ... so i'm no use providing names just yet ;D

for the most part i eagerly leap on anything released on the Planet Mu label


P.S. does anyone want to try and define the precise differences between dubstep and grime ? I've come across conflicting ideas

[nic_zero]

Grime has vocals.... Innit??

Check out Scarecrow - Taken

It was on part two of this weeks Garage Pressure podcast. Awesome tune.

Listen here: http://www.myspace.com/scarecrowlives

[sirravesalot]

There are disputing defs of grime: the usual one is that it must have vocals, and then there is the debate about whether you can have dubstep with vocals.

The other def I've come across is that grime can be like IDM just slowed down (think stuff by Hawerchuk for an excample).

And then there are cross over style stuff which you see from the shadetek team and some other groups which seem to draw from a variety of these and combine them.

But mainly I don't try to define them and just say dubstep/grime together to prevent confusion, principally my own.


but some good dubstep - check out artists like shackleton, benga, slaughter mob, toasty/toasty boy, vex'd, loefah, and coki. Also check the moving ninja release on tectonic, shit is fire.

I don't really get albums so much as tracks/rekkids though.

edit: sunza bitch, awesome shit nic_zero -> been looking for that track for a while, heard it on a quiet storm mix. Taken is killer.

[mxmai]

fucking aye, taken is some crazy sheeeeit.

[nic_zero]

Any track with a sample of a crow squawking gets my vote...

[sirravesalot]

word to that. So spookily tough n rad.

[nic_zero]

I wanted to use it on my Myspace profile but it's not addable. Dammit.

[risk]

taken is sludge! brilliant.

CAW CAW

[Citizen]

As I see it, Grime is definately MC dominated, and has more in common with battle raps than its garage heritage. Subject matter tends to mostly comprise of threats of being "merked". *gasp*

As for grime instrumentals, they tend to have a more "synthetic" sound, as a rule. Not always of course, but i find that there is a warmth to most dubstep releases that is lacking in grime. A proliferation of handclaps also seems to be a feature of many grime tracks.

Grime is also generally identified by a general lack of production values. Again, this is a generalisation.

As for dubstep, check:

Elemental
Toastyboy!!
DMZ/Digital Mystikz
Luke Envoy
Search n Destroy

...and the mighty, mighty Boxcutter's "Oneiric". You need this album.

[risk]

oh yeah, check macabre unit - killer bee for a slice of quality grime. sick tune, only ever heard it on a plasticman mix from a while back but if it ever got released, it's disgusting.

[Citizen]

And if you want something TOUGH as nails: you've got to check Vex'd.

Especially their Breezeblock mix, which was voted as the best mix of 05 by BBC listeners.

[nic_zero]

As I see it, Grime is definately MC dominated, and has more in common with battle raps than its garage heritage. Subject matter tends to mostly comprise of threats of being "merked". *gasp*

As for grime instrumentals, they tend to have a more "synthetic" sound, as a rule. Not always of course, but i find that there is a warmth to most dubstep releases that is lacking in grime. A proliferation of handclaps also seems to be a feature of many grime tracks.

Grime is also generally identified by a general lack of production values. Again, this is a generalisation.

As for dubstep, check:

Elemental
Toastyboy!!
DMZ/Digital Mystikz
Luke Envoy
Search n Destroy

...and the mighty, mighty Boxcutter's "Oneiric". You need this album.


Some Grime has slick as fuck production tho. Check out Kano and Low Deep's Get Set and the Run The Road version of Sway's Up Your Speed. Fucking LOVE.

[sirravesalot]

And if you want something TOUGH as nails: you've got to check Vex'd.

Especially their Breezeblock mix, which was voted as the best mix of 05 by BBC listeners.


yeh I love Vex'd. They're what got me into dubstep (or breakstep or whatever). Yeh citizen thats the problem with grime, I think its now pretty hard to define cos it covers a pretty broad sound now. Either way I love this style of music.

I also recommend
Emalkay (esp Frequency)
Distance
mark one (mrk1)
n-type
skream
shackleton
edit: and various production <- not always dubstep but always good.

man I wish I had more money, got lots of dubstep/grime on mp3 but a relatively small amount of wax, and want more :(

[nic_zero]

The new GP podcast is online.

http://www.garagepressure.com/podcasts.htm

That 'Traffic' track by DJ Distance is the shit. http://www.myspace.com/djdistancedub
I swear I hear what sounds like gabba kicks! Noice.

[mxmai]

those garage pressure podcasts are fuckin' tight.



i made a copy of the boxcutter breezeblock set that just has his 25 minute mix if anyone's interested (the copy on barefiles includes the whole show). i can upload if anybody wants it.

[dementruck]

wish i'd seen this thread (read: forum) earlier :-D

[dubst3p]

plus digital mystikz have dropped a few good ones lately
They ARE dubstep :)

I really rate D1 at the moment. Warning on Tempa Allstars 3 is my favourite release this year.. dark as fuck.

[nic_zero]

i made a copy of the boxcutter breezeblock set that just has his 25 minute mix if anyone's interested (the copy on barefiles includes the whole show). i can upload if anybody wants it.

Yeah man I left for work and chucked my iriver in and got the news! I'll bust out SoundForge for a bit of slice and dice I reckon.

[sirravesalot]

so dope. My birthday is next week so got my mum to chuck a whole heap of rekkids on her credit card as my present. Yee haw.

[mxmai]

loefah - mud

:thumb:

[Citizen]

^^^

Both Mud and Ruffage are on a similar tip. Loefah sure is Mr. Minimal.

[sirravesalot]

oooh, mxmai told me today 'bout kode9 playing sydney on the 8th of Oct (the sunday I think) and then skream doing like the 27th of something. Fuck jeah!!

[Citizen]

^^^

Yeah, that's true. Kode 9 is also playing in Melbourne at the Croft Institute, on the 6th of OCt. (I think!)

And Skream is very heavily rumoured to be making his way up to Brisbane. :D

[nic_zero]

So there

[Citizen]

Skream in Brisbane - CONFIRMED! (http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=177860)

:D

[sirravesalot]

you guys get into various productions stuff? I really dig it, and even their non-dubstep tracks without bass kicks and sometimes wierd vocals mix well into dubstep. boss

[sirravesalot]

omfg, totally have to check out the ghostification wax by time something. Can't remember the artist, but shit is wierd, its tight, its real nice to mix with as well. Can't recommend it enough.

[Funkedub]

Skream in Brisbane - CONFIRMED! (http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=177860)

:D


:zabiela:

picked up Skreamizm Vol 2 the other day ... can't wait for this gig

[orphic]

Skream is going to be rad. Man, there's some good music to be heard around the place over the next month.

[Citizen]

omfg, totally have to check out the ghostification wax by time something. Can't remember the artist, but shit is wierd, its tight, its real nice to mix with as well. Can't recommend it enough.

timeblind - my good man. Used to make some tech, me thinks.

[nic_zero]

Mary Anne Hobbs Presents The Warrior Dubz (http://www.discogs.com/release/805516)

This is solid.

[Funkedub]

got a Spac Hand Luke 12" last week ... Luke Vibert doing dubstep. Me rikey !! :thumb:

[mxmai]

i dunno nic, i was a bit unsure on warrior dubz. some quality tunes there but some i'm not a big fan of.

heard zinc's remix of midnight request line on the weekend too. not too shabby.

[nic_zero]

Do you like grime?

The Various Productions track on the Hobbs CD blows. Hard. Which is a shame...

[Snarl]

i dunno nic, i was a bit unsure on warrior dubz. some quality tunes there but some i'm not a big fan of.

heard zinc's remix of midnight request line on the weekend too. not too shabby.

c'mon its bloody typical zinc!

the flip, his mix of skream's deep concentration is equally typical.

[mxmai]

*may have been wasted at the time. ;)

[Snarl]

*may have been wasted at the time. ;)

ahh yes . . . that would explain it.

i know a lot of people use the same excuse when they talk about aphrodite.

;-)

[mxmai]

ohhh come on, that's a bit harsh... :P

[nic_zero]

The amount of SHITE drum n bass I've danced to whilst drunk. It's just such good pissed music!

[Alistair]

its true... I have had awesome times to Aphrodite whilst really drunk, and then you hear it when sober, and its a bit like how you should never, during the day, go to that curry place you got the best.feed.evar at 4am the other morning, coz yeah man, it wasnt that good...

[mxmai]

:lol:

[nic_zero]

I don't really listen to drum n bass anymore but the Spor track on the Mary Anne Hobbs CD is fuckin' wikid!

[nic_zero]

Tech Itch - One Of Us

Fuck.

Sample:
http://hardwax.com/52224/

[calico]

grime and dubstep are like jungle and drum'n'bass. totally different, yet complementary, overlapping and in some lights difficult to tell apart. definitely slanted to vocals and simpler musical composition in grime as distinct from dubstep's textural and layered approach.

[TraumaTizer__]

Anyone heard that Mathhead - Dirty Deeds on Terminal Dusk Records..its fuckin sick dubstep

[Citizen]

^^^

Agreed. Awesome epic styles.

If you are feeling that Tech Itch tune "One of Us", check out "Distort" which is on the flip.

[Citizen]

Holeee shit.

My girl is playing records atm...and sure enough she just dropped "One of Us", by Tech Itch. There is no way she was anywhere near the computer, either.

Like freaky!

[nic_zero]

Track ID: The track that has the sample 'The scanning experience is usually a painful one'. I think it's Loefah but not too sure...

[Citizen]

Loefah - Goat Stare - DMZ006 (I think?)

Audio (http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF188366-01-01-08.mp3)

[nic_zero]

Yeah that's what I thought it was. Cheers mate!

Awesome toon.

[mxmai]

'The scanning experience is usually a painful one'


ohhhhh yeah. that's a killer. think i heard it first on one of the garage pressure podcasts...

[gravyishot]

Grime is north and east London, dubstep is south London and Croydon.

[nic_zero]

Haha

[Funkedub]

you guys get into various productions stuff? I really dig it, and even their non-dubstep tracks without bass kicks and sometimes wierd vocals mix well into dubstep. boss


YES !!

randomly selected this (http://www.discogs.com/release/734307) whilst having a dig ... dropped the needle on it ... wasn't what i was expecting ... but i loved it

completely different to anything else i've heard

sits in nicely with burial

[mxmai]

was down the coast with sirravesalot on the weekend and he dropped some naaasty beats, both on the stereo and also onto my laptop :thumb:

some seriously dark shackleton tracks on there. love that shit.

[Lukey]

check out the new 8FM on planet Mu. killer