Hey - Question

[anieldayS]

Hey guys,
my names Daniel and im 14 (I know ... Kindah Young) but im am interested in the House/Electro scene. I own some turntables (cd ones) american audios witch are worth about $2500 but scored them for $0 off a brothers mate who has gone on to producing professionally. I am a fairly good dj and I know most of the basics and have started djing at mates parties ... Nothing big bout 10-15 people :rock: lol but it a start right? I just wanted to know how I could start producing, like where I could start. Because Im really into it, and hope to make something out of it. After all, who said you cant dream right. Rofl. But yea, if anyone could shout me some help it would be mad.

Thanks

[Teknikall]

ask your brothers mate? isnt he a producer?

[anieldayS]

thanks, you helped. Man hes busy, and i really dont want to bust his chops so im just asking

[Dub DeLay]

I'd probably start reading Computer Music to begin with

[Teknikall]

i think he'd help you out dude, unless he has became an egotistic cawk smoker.

otherwise you could always search :)
as i dont really have a fekkin clue inregards to production :P

[DJ D one]

There is a bunch of books on Amazon.com covering producing and method used to make electronic music. Sometimes you can find some of the titles on ebay and buy them for a touch cheaper.
Example of what you can find: http://www.amazon.com/Dance-Music-Manual-Tools-Techniques/dp/0240519159/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_0/002-6872486-8532044

Then dig a bit and there are lot more there.

Once you a read a bit you'll find out about what you need to do or get. Then it is all about experimenting smf lrsrning more. People here help for little thing, but they are not going to give you a whole course on the subject, plus there is not much free information about that subject online (Just bits and pieces), I think these books can be a good start for you. Then you will have to get the gear and software.

DJD1

[phunkdust]

start playing with some software...

go download demos of

fruityloops (FL Studio)
ableton live
reason

and play with them... see what you like best

[Marky]

and once you have downloaded the demos, think about this - eople learning the guitar are taught to practice playing other people's songs, to get a feel for it. So try the same with your software. Try and recreate some of your fave songs. Break them down into their various sounds, and try and make each of them, i.e. drums, then bassline, then lead synth etc. This will help you get an idea of the techniques the producers you like are using.

[anieldayS]

Thanks man, will do. The producer I know uses reason to muck around, and hes made some great stuff. Hes showed me it, the problem is that I dont really have a clue about how to use them rofll. Neways thanks for your input but I WILL play around n see what I get. Off to do some mixing i=on the decks now. :)

[Bracko]

why the fuck aren't you in school :?

[Addm]

he quit school to pursue his career as a dj

[TelixElectro]

I am a fairly good dj and I know most of the basics and have started djing at mates parties ... Nothing big bout 10-15 people :rock: lol but it a start right? I just wanted to know how I could start producing, like where I could start. Because Im really into it, and hope to make something out of it. After all, who said you cant dream right. Rofl. But yea, if anyone could shout me some help it would be mad.

What kind of music are you looking to produce, for starters ? While some of the basics are the same, there are obviously different skillsets you should concentrate on depending on whether you want to produce say hip-hop, dance, rock etc.

As other people have said, the best way to start regardless is to get yourself either (a) some software or (b) some hardware (drum machine, cheapo synth) - even asking your mate's brother to have a go on some of his gear is good - and just have a play around. Start reading mags like Computer Music or Future Music, especially if 'dance' is the genre you want to produce.

Read this forum, as subscribe to some production related yahoo groups.

Don't be afraid to ask any musos you know for advice - your mate's brother sounds like a nice guy, if he gave you his American DJ decks - see if he's got a bit of spare time - even just an hour or two over a couple of weekends - and see if he can give you tips + take you through the basics.

If he's producing professionally, he obviously loves what he's doing and he's also lucky to have a full-time job out of it, chances are if he sees you're keen, he'll be more than happy to give you some advice. Remember - he was your age once, and no doubt would have loved to have an 'established' producer to get advice from when he was starting out too.

Most importantly, stick with it mate - there are times when being a 'newbie' is going to piss you off, and you'll feel frustrated that you can't just learn everything straight away - but even if you don't get a full-time gig out of it like your brother's mate, either way you'll be doing what you love (even if it's just a hobbie, and a few mate's parties), and take it from me EVERYONE gets better after a few years practice :)

[TelixElectro]

he quit school to pursue his career as a dj

Dude, he needs to go to Ibitha for schoolies ;)

[anieldayS]

Thanks man, best advice yet, and I DIDN'T quit school, it was just that sport was canceled and I asked parents and they said ok, just this time lol. But yea TelixElectro the producers a good guy, long time friend but ill ask, see if he has spare time. I mean, he taught me all I know on the decks, and hes good with them too. I just forgot how to adjust BPM on the american audios, Cause i got these two songs, and I think im onto something :) So if you know bout the BPM, please reply lol. (I Djed last bout 2 months ago, too much school work!)

[anieldayS]

Ohh also I forgot, I would like to produce House/Electro. Got alot of inspiration from the likes of MSTRKRFT and Dirty South :)

[kiyoshi]

good place to start is right here... music produxion forums. ask and learn.
u also might wanna drop by ur local newsagency & get them computer music mags for noobz.

other than that.. get urself fruitty looopz, get familar with makin beats and stuff.. from then on u wont be too far from makin traxx. :rock:

down the road if ur serious abt producin, u could consider some serious gear like monitors (pro speakers) , keyboard / midi controllers to trigger sound from the computer sound instruments and so forth.


I just forgot how to adjust BPM on the american audios, Cause i got these two songs, and I think im onto something :) So if you know bout the BPM, please reply lol. (I Djed last bout 2 months ago, too much school work!)

to get the bpm's in sync, you ride the pitch to the tunes become insync!.. wow!.. from what i understand, you probably have the american audio cdi500's?. theyre pretty decent, with good effects and all. other that u could look at the bpm counter on em :thumb:

[anieldayS]

Lol I know but from what I remember you could change the BPM. Funny eh... I couldve sworn I seen it happen. Anyways thanks man

[FH_Jimbob]

Ibitha

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[BOKSOFROX]

x 2 ^^^ :lol:

As far as production goes; go hit up some websites featuring the production of styles you enjoy. Even more so you can also pick up tips and ideas from websites you wouldn't typically associate yourself with. I used to read a couple random house and breaks forums ages ago (don't remember the URL, gotta see if its still in the history) and I picked up a couple tidbits; most of what i've learnt though is from the production powerhouse down at the DOA forums www.dogsonacid.com on their "Grid". Be careful though, they're all junglist rude bwoys and bite.

[meldavid]

Lol, I used to wag high school so I could make techno hardcore on my PC. I didn't even have proper software, just a wave editor so I had to keep mix-pasting and measuring the length of samples with a calculator - it was the only way I knew how to do it, haha.

[phunkdust]

I think I was probably 14 or so when i started playing with rebirth and the early versions of FL.

my first piece of software was ACID 2.0... if anyone can find out when that was released then thats when I started writing music.

I don't think there's a minimum age limit... more of a guideline in terms of experiences and maturity.

[TelixElectro]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

It's phonetic spelling ;)

[Funkedub]

Ohh also I forgot, I would like to produce House/Electro. Got alot of inspiration from the likes of MSTRKRFT and Dirty South :)


i'm not ageist .... i mean i'm all for encouraging young producers and music makers.

But electro is not the answer X(

Or more to the point i refuse to encourage people wanting to make electro/house :boring:








:)

[jazam]

^^^ you can only like it for so long...

until you get bored and start liking funky house again.

[TelixElectro]

But electro is not the answer X(

Could be worse ... he COULD have said he wanted to produce "sleazy, industrial disco".

Although he would probably have been sued by Groovie Mann & Buzz McCoy's marketing reps then ;) TKK ... gotta love a band that's been playing for 20 years and are still waiting for their 'breakthrough' :P

[Casey Steele]

^^ Baaaaaaahahhahahahhaha

[FH_Jimbob]

It's phonetic spelling ;)


Yeah i forgot how many of us dont know about Ibiza and how it is pronounced *rollseyes

[skitz000]

I think I was probably 14 or so when i started playing with rebirth and the early versions of FL.




just to get my head around this, arent you 14 atm as the opening post says so?

[FH_Jimbob]

^^ LOL your trippin. :lol: :lol:

[TelixElectro]

Yeah i forgot how many of us dont know about Ibiza and how it is pronounced *rollseyes

I'm retarded, I know, leave me alone already jimbob {:-(

[FH_Jimbob]

Dont worry - i am sure i am missing a few chromosomes too :P

[TelixElectro]

^^ Looking at the charts, I wouldn't worry, it doesn't seem to have held back the careers of anyone in this biz.

Hell ... Molly Meldrum is a prime example of how missing a few chromosomes can actually be an asset ;)

[Donnie Darko]

omg a n00b thread, what a good idea! (http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=192851&page=2)

[kMoe]

Sounds like you got a good thing goin on here. I'd first start by learning to play an instrument, preferably piano or guitar. That way it will give you all the basics on music, once you know that using any computer production software will be pretty easy to learn. Once you also start to appreciate music you will move away from the electro scene and realise how shallow it is IMO.

seriously learn an instrument first to get a grip on musical theory.

[stubs]

LOL
Great read. Whatever happened D1?

[AlecMerkel]

I was young and into electronic music and DJing! But it sucked for me. Mainly because I really wanted to experience it in a "club" atmosphere and I could. At the time the rave scene was rather hot in Miami.... Needless to say I turned 18 and 21 and never experienced a true rave... All i got was dubstep wanna be raves, which are just as fun if I may add lol.

Anyways if you're looking to get into production I suggest you get into music first. I learned the Sax and I still play it till this day (16 years). But the best for what you're looking to do would be a keyboard or piano. Study music theory and rhythms as well. Know the difference between basic note lengths like 1/8 note, 1/16 note ect. A good site would be musictheory.net (sorry can't post links yet).

Other than that I would suggest you get on Fruity Loops or some sort of basic sequencer to you can mess around with the technological aspect of it as well.