good dub?

[cRisp]

Can anyone please help me out with a list of quality dub artists. Not to sure about the genre and what kinda of dub i might be looking for. I just know whenever i've been listening to it i've loved it.
I'm looking for a list of artists to check out, please help me out

[Offbeat]

If your talking dub techno then stuff like:
Rythym and Sound
Basic Channel
Maurizio
the echochord label
the chain reaction label
echo euphoria
the deepchord label

If it's reggae then Lee Perry
King Tubby
mental blank.... ;D
Help me out

[Jubei]

Yeah, as mentioned, King Tubby is the absolute ruler when it comes to dub. King Tubbys Lost Treasures, is probably my favourite dub album ever.

Also for a similar vibe check out Mad Professor, and Scientist (a King Tubby protoge).

[flexau]

All of the above + check Kanka! on the french Hammerbass label ...

check for clips and links of where to buy at hammerbass.fr

[Funkedub]

ya wan' sum dubwise tings ?! aaaaiight ... Let's lick it from the top then

If you want to explore the roots of dub then look to a label called Soul Jazz. These guys have been compiling and re-issuing slabs of original Jamaican dub, ska, rocksteady, dancehall and reggae. Their "100% Dynamite" series (200%, 300% etc) are good compilations of all these genres and an excellent starting point.

Also from Soul Jazz are the compilations from a place called Studio One ... as run by Sir Coxsonne Dodd (aka Dub Specialist). This studio gave birth to many a reggae star (Bob Marley & Horace Andy for starters). On the "Studio One Dub" compilation you'll find versions (dubs) of many of the classic tracks from the 100% etc compilations ... this is the true roots of dubbing.

Of course King Tubby and Lee Scratch Perry ( who worked with the Wailers and the Upsetters)were the next generation of dub producers that took it all to new stellar heights. Perry's work with the Wailers is legendary. King Tubby was the kind of man that made his own gear and kept it all meticulously clean ... and his productions reflect this nature of his.

Trojan, Treasure Isle and Channel One are the other 3 major contenders in the original Jamaican record label stables. All very very popular, but i'm just too in love with the sound of Studio One (it's bands and it's production and producers) to explore them as thoroughly.

K, i'll FFWD to contemporary dub now.

Mad Professor is a prolific man based in London, reknowned for remixing Massive Attack's Protection into a floating dub adventure.

Bill Laswell (Material, Golden Palaminos, Tabla Beat Science)) and Jah Wobble, both P.I.L ex bass players ... both creating and exploring some very chilled and atmoshperic dub, ,more often than not tinged with the sounds, intruments and voices of other countries. I'd say Bill is the deeper and more etmospheric of the 2, and my fave.

The Orb : doesn't immediately come across as dub, but the more you listen to the Orb and the more you undertsand dub, the more you'll enjoy their tongue in cheek excursions into their otherworldly dubwise tings. 10/10

Umm ... compilations are the best way of getting an idea of what turns you on though ...

now i might just list some albums that i own/love/flog :ahoy:


Nice up The Dance (http://www.discogs.com/release/185197) (Hip Hop meets the reggae dancehall)

Select Cuts from Blood and Fire 3 (http://www.discogs.com/release/168607) (Select Cuts is another label re-issuing and getting remixes on dub classics. they've got many great compilations)

King Tubby - 100% Dub (http://www.discogs.com/release/212555)(another Select Cuts album)

Dub Side of the Moon - Easy Star All Stars (http://www.discogs.com/release/238558) (these guys have also done a version of OK Computer now called Radiodread)

Gorillaz Vs Space Monkeyz - Laika Come Home (http://www.discogs.com/release/137109) (Gorillaz all dubbedup)

various - Macro Dub Infection (http://www.discogs.com/release/586445) (this is one of the compilations that started it for me .. such an eclectic range of sounds that are all rooted in dub ... so many great artists on it)

Butch Cassidy Sound System - Butches Brew (http://www.discogs.com/release/325200) (new school dub that sounds old school ... very well put together album)



Misc. artists, not strictly dub, but often dub infused : Dreadzone, Banco De Gaia, Meat Beat Manifesto, Atone, DJ Spooky and last but not least , Leftfield



/rant :geek:

[sneaky hands]

Groundation
Midnite

both have excellent dub versions of their songs (which are slow spacey type reggae to start with)

[Lukey]

and check out Deadbeat

[Richard Parker]

Octex makes nice dub techno too.

[Bug Powder]

Audio Active - Happy Happer
Augustus Pablo - This is Augustus Pablo
Dry and Heavy - Full Contact
Scientist - Introducing Scientist: The Best Dub Album in the World

and any album that Sly and Robbie play on.

[legal-affairs]

Where's the love for the locals?

On the reggae tip, Melbourne's The Red-Eyes and Sydney's The Resurrectors are both awesome.

The Bird do some nice dub, amongst other genres.

Deepchild is consistently awesome, a Sydney group called the Versionaries are starting to make some noise, Jeff Dread still plays around the place from time to time (and his compilation CDs "Dub for the Masses" 1 and 2 are really rather good.)

[Funkedub]

^^^^

one of my guiltly pleasures is some of the Studio One songs that feature marvellous vocals ... lead and back up harmonies ... and of course marevellous horn sections !!!

I notice most of the dub being posted here more on the neo-dub tip ...

oh and on that tip .. and what about Ott !! :ahoy:

[Jubei]

I love the resurrectors (and many other local reggae bands) but would consider them more reggae than dub. If somebody were to strip back the vocals, add in some echo and other effects, then we'd be talking.

For Aussie dub give Sherrif Lindo's '10 dubs that shoock the world' a try.

A good album, to get a good idea of dub I think is Burning Spear's CD - 100th Anniversary - Marcus Garvey + Garveys Ghost, as it containts the original album, then the dub version of said album.

[jazam]

Ive been really digging Shackleton on Skull Disco.

esp. Blood on My Hands

Bass heavy bowel wobbling dub

[Freshie]

Top thread!

[Richard Parker]

A good album, to get a good idea of dub I think is Burning Spear's CD - 100th Anniversary - Marcus Garvey + Garveys Ghost, as it containts the original album, then the dub version of said album.
So that's where the Marcus Garvey reference comes from in Orb's Towers of Dub? :P

[Funkedub]

"yes ... he's a black gentleman"

[Richard Parker]

Woof.

[flexau]

This Dub question can be quite broad, huh? We've had a fair bit of early JA Dub mentioned and the recent tech-dub too. I'll vouch for most of whats mentioned above but I'm struggling to add to the list. Has anyone heard Pitch Black from NZ? Are they any good? -Call themselves a 'Tech-Dub' band.

[didjeridude]

Check out this thread folks....

http://www.stencilrevolution.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18705&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=de2d2151b91f8589b7c35fe08964bb16

[DuncanM]

Has anyone heard Pitch Black from NZ? Are they any good? -Call themselves a 'Tech-Dub' band.

Yup, they are excellent. Do a search for a thread in this forum about them, and you can download a couple of their tracks from their website. They also do an absurdly good remix on Salmonella Dub's album calming of the drunken monkey. Fellow kiwis rhombus are also worth checking out.

I've found that its more worthwhile paying a bit more for re-mastered Jamaican reggae/dub than getting the $10 ones with shitty sound - others may disagree though. Lee Scratch Perry's 3cd set Arkology is a must have.

Edit to add: Frenchies Hi Tone are dope also.

[mendoza]

^^ Just got onto Salmonella.

cRisp you need too buy a copy of Salmonella Dub - One Drop East.

Man what an album this is so smooth and consistant. Doesnt matter what mood your in its alwasys worth a spin. Are their previous albums as good?

[didjeridude]

Where's the love for the locals?

On the reggae tip, Melbourne's The Red-Eyes and Sydney's The Resurrectors are both awesome.

The Bird do some nice dub, amongst other genres.

Deepchild is consistently awesome, a Sydney group called the Versionaries are starting to make some noise, Jeff Dread still plays around the place from time to time (and his compilation CDs "Dub for the Masses" 1 and 2 are really rather good.)Thanks for the tip LA. I just noticed yesterday that The Versionaries are supporting Rastawookie at the Metro in April. See youse there f#cken.

Can't wait to catch The Resurrectors again. I saw them supporting Fat Freddy's Drop and I thought they stole the show (on that night anyway). Fat Freddy are wicked but on that evening their set was just a little too mellow for a little too long. The Resurrectors on the other hand, had the crowd jumping!!

Adding to the reggae tip doing the rounds on the Aus east coast are King Tide, The Roots, The Black Seeds, Cornerstone Roots, and Katchafire. Is that 4 out of 5 from NZ?

[DuncanM]

^^ Just got onto Salmonella.

cRisp you need too buy a copy of Salmonella Dub - One Drop East.

Man what an album this is so smooth and consistant. Doesnt matter what mood your in its alwasys worth a spin. Are their previous albums as good?

Anything before killervision is patchy. Killervision, Inside/Outside the dub plates are all dope, but Calming of the Drunken Monkey and the various ep's which preceded it are a little bit meh. Exceptions are the aforementioned Pitch Black remix (They're Amongst us I think its called) and Dub Tomfoolery. The first time I saw them play dub tomfoolery live it took me about 2 minutes to work out that it was the drummer singing. The THC winter EP is VERY different to their other stuff, and I really don't dig it.

Word up to the Ressurectors, how cute is their trumpet player? :blush:

Skream's album Skream is also on a dubby tip, much more dub than dubstep.

[legal-affairs]

Thanks for the tip LA. I just noticed yesterday that The Versionaries are supporting Rastawookie at the Metro in April. See youse there f#cken.
I may see you there - the problem is that Dust Tones have Hermitude, Rephrase and Katalyst (plus others) at the Factory in Marrickville on the same night.

[DuncanM]

Dude. No contest there, Dust Tones ftw. You had me at hermitude.

[Natashja]

Hi guys, I'm not a huge dub fan but I'm going to be travelling to Hungary soon and my cousin there is mad for it. I wanted to take some great Australian dub with me as a gift, though I'm working on the premise that this actually exists.

If someone could point me in the right direction, I'd be greatly appreciative!

Tash

[Funkedub]

^^^^

Austria has a damn healthy dub scene . .. as does Germany ... wouldn't be surprised if Hungary has a healthy scene too

ohh yea ... speaking of Vienna ... The dub Club crew are well worth casting over the ears

[legal-affairs]

Hi guys, I'm not a huge dub fan but I'm going to be travelling to Hungary soon and my cousin there is mad for it. I wanted to take some great Australian dub with me as a gift, though I'm working on the premise that this actually exists.

If someone could point me in the right direction, I'd be greatly appreciative!

Tash
Deepchild's "What's going wrong" and "Lifetime" (the latter has a European release, though)
Jeff Dread's "The Merchant of Dub", "Return from Alpha One" and "Dub for the Masses" Vol 1 and Vol 2.

Oz Reggae-wise, the Red-Eyes have "Rudeworld" out which is awesome; the Resurrectors' "Healing" is pretty good.

When you going to be in Hungary? I'm going to be in Buda just after Easter.

[Natashja]

Thanks for your recommendations L-A.

I won't be in Budapest until 29th April. If your thread in travel is anything to go by, I think we just miss each other!

[calico]

So that's where the Marcus Garvey reference comes from in Orb's Towers of Dub? :P

not really. marcus garvey spearheaded the 'back to africa' movement in the '20s. if you've never heard of it i recommend reading up, it's a huge influence on Jamaican and African American music. from culture's two sevens clash to black star. try wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Garvey) to begin with.

lots of great acts above, but a lot aren't dub.

dub is producer as musician, layered effects, heavy throbbing bass and disembodied vocals - lee perry, augustus pablo, king tubby, jammys. i reckon it's the most influential form of music on modern music, even if it's just in making the producer part of the music.

[Funkedub]

lots of great acts above, but a lot aren't dub.

dub is producer as musician, layered effects, heavy throbbing bass and disembodied vocals - lee perry, augustus pablo, king tubby, jammys. i reckon it's the most influential form of music on modern music, even if it's just in making the producer part of the music.


totally agreed.

[sonical]

Greets....

Don't forget Sheriff Lindo - 10 Dubs That Shook The World. Probably Oz's first "proper" dub LP way back in '89. Real great 4 track stuff - it's been reissued on creative vibes. For my money he's still Oz's best dubber.

Also, early High Pass Filter (before rock-n-roll set in) - first 7" (ESN) and first LP (Audio Forensic) with some great electrodub remixes on A Trillion Dollars.

I've done a few dubwise tracks meself under the moniker Beam Up.

There's a new Oz/Nz dub CD out from Cairns called "Dub Rascals Vol.2" (www.lrrecords.com.au) with a few goodies on and (shock) a dubstep track that's pretty damn good.

PBSFM (Melbourne) has a CD called "Melbourne Yard" which has a few dub cuts on, but you need to subscribe to the station to get a copy ;)

Sweden's Folie has 2 futuristic dub styled downbeat albums (Eyepennies and.... umm, forgot) with some really fresh sounds and production.

I'm still waiting for someone to surpass King Tubby and King Jammy for pure dub wizadry!

Cheers.

[DuncanM]

Don't forget Sheriff Lindo - 10 Dubs That Shook The World. Probably Oz's first "proper" dub LP way back in '89. Real great 4 track stuff - it's been reissued on creative vibes. For my money he's still Oz's best dubber.

The more I listen to Jeff Dread's Merchant of Dub albums, the more I'm convinced that he was about 10 years before his time.

Also, has anyone mentioned LKJ? His show at the Gaelic Club a few years back was outstanding, even though he "had his poet hat on". I'd love to see him again.

[scotartt]

Greensleeves and Trojan are the two labels you most want for dub.

[che c]

Fat freddys drop are mad, dont know sounds like dub to me

[surfermatt]

I have been hunting around recently for some good online dub mixes or dj sets being posted, but there doesn't seem to be too much out there, although I reckon I'm just looking in the wrong place. Anyone got any sites with some good dubby (yet bassy) mixes, but not the usual dancehall/ragga stuff thats out there?

http://www.blentwell.com/ is a good one so far...

[Richard Parker]

those 3 hour Rhythm & Sound mixes were pretty sweet, but i can't remember where they were available... anyone got the links still?

[Lukey]

looks for the demf sets, they should be up on livesets.com

[big eddie]

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[Dub DeLay]

here is one of mine from last year

features rhythm and sound, paul st hilaire, process, maurizio, tom clark, drastic, somalux and some others i can't remember

http://www.dubiousmedia.com/sets/springdub.mp3