To anyone who has bought pioneer CDJ's from overseas

[bj9999]

I would be interested to hear of your experience. I have really been doing my homework on these and seeing what prices everywhere is charging, so I can get a feel of a good deal.

Obviously the massive, massive advantage is price - they are much, much cheaper than buying them from a retailer here.
There are obviously also issues, mainly, shipping costs, voltage adapters, customs tax and no warranty.

Shipping from some places is pretty cheap, and still makes it much cheaper than buying here.

The adapaters - Ive heard from some people they are only $20, from others Ive heard they are $100???

The warranty - by far the biggest concern. I realise buying overseas does not come with a warranty. But have ppl who have bought overseas actually needed it? Does the huge cost saving mean you can afford to get it fixed if there is a problem with it?
Do genuine Pioneer products actually break down, in, say the first year?

Customs - the official customs website says no tax for goods under $1K. Is this the price you paid for them, or their Australian value if you bought them here? If you bought one CDJ, for, say, $AUS850 overseas (inc shipping), but it was worth $1200 here, do they still tax you? How much is the tax?

So, overall, is it worth it, or do you regret it? Have they been easy to re-sell? (I see a lot on itm selling with the description '2ns hand US model - just needs an adapter'.

[Random_Kiwi]

If it's like NZ customs, you'll get stung for the total price...product and shipping comes to over $1000 AUD, you'll get charged GST. But I'd say confirming that with them direct would be the best bet.

Adaptors are cheap, they sell them at airports and sometimes chemists which have those "travel" orientated stands which have money pounces, air plugs, inflatable cushions etc. And they'd be cheaper still from the likes of Dick Smiths. It's just a plug which goes into the wall AUS styles with the holes on the back for the US/EUR/JAP plugs to plug into.

Shipping is the thing that could be a killer, I'd heard shipping from the US is huge!

[Random_Kiwi]

In my breif search I've found places with the CDJ 1000's for $1299 USD - convert that to AUS and it's almost $1600 already...add on your shipping...add on customs charging you GST...VS DJ Warehouse currently having a special on them for $1750 I fail to see how it's possibly a better/cheaper option...perhaps there are places which have them heaps cheaper than this?

[DJ D one]

This has been covered extensively. But here we go again...

1. Over $1000 you will be charged 10% by customs, mind you they may also charge if an item is less than $1000 and they feel you are cheating.

2. You can talk direct to customs, one will say green today, but when your item comes another customs guy will say red...unless you get written and signed document, with customs always assume they will charge you if the item is close to a $1000...if it is over well for sure...

3. I am not sure about back configuration of CDJ1000, but if it is 110-120v you need a converter, cost have dropped for converters but beware of quality, minimum you are looking $40-50...if it is a 110v-120v and you put a socket adaptor instead of a converter, you will blow the machine. When reselling second hand a US model, you get less money as you only get newbies interested, and not so many dj.

4. Pioneer djing equipment due to its popularity, is the number one bait for scammer.
I have heard of so many people getting scammed because the price was too good.

5. Yes no warranty unless the seller ask you to return the equipment in which case...you are lucky (Kind of speaking) coz now you have to pay for shipping back, and again risk to be charged by custom again on the way back, you only need to be lucky enough to get the bad number.

6. Think about it, if you looking to buy it from overseas because it is cheap, then it means you don't have much money, how would you feel if you got unlucky and something happen.
Further more they are some cases where you send back the stuff uninsured and the seller turn around and say he never receive it back, it happened to me on a faulty sound card and the seller was interstate.

7. As for me, I think you invest in a CDJ of that caliber, it is not a $500 player, if you want to take the risk, think if it is worth it.

8. In my opinion they are a lot of good buy from overseas, but there is simply a price range where I cannot afford to take the risk anymore, if you can good for you.

9. I would rather go to JB Hifi bargain the price to the minimum, and pick them up myself with one year warranty. Get a few other as a group and geta few of them, I am sure you can score in the $1600 this way.

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[bj9999]

New CDJ-800s can be bought on ebay international for $US780 incl shipping. The Aussie dollar is going really well at the mo, so it converts to about $AU900 each which is very cheap. I think they retail for $1200 here.

No offence, random kiwi, but your first post did not answer any of my questions except about the converter (and thankyou for that)- I already said re customs that the total price incl shipping is UNDER $AU900, and I already said the shipping was fairly cheap (Ive done my homework).

[Bracko]

This has been covered extensively. But here we go again...

1. Over $1000 you will be charged 10% by customs, mind you they may also charge if an item is less than $1000 and they feel you are cheating.



actually it's not straight 10%. it's a combination of GST and customs charges. it'll change for every different item that goes through. working on 12% would be a good start.

[bj9999]

Thanks D one - that covers my questions well - Im hoping to hear from people that have actually been through this, both good and bad.

If I did choose to go the overseas option, I would only buy one thing at a time, and be absolutely sire it was all fine before I bought anything else.

I havent heard one person say its a good idea, so Im extremely wary - as I said Im doing as much research as I can before I lay down a load of money.

Im looking at 800s, not 1000s by the way.

[DJ D one]

New CDJ-800s can be bought on ebay international for $US780 incl shipping. The Aussie dollar is going really well at the mo, so it converts to about $AU900 each which is very cheap. I think they retail for $1200 here.

No offence, random kiwi, but your first post did not answer any of my questions except about the converter (and thankyou for that)- I already said re customs that the total price incl shipping is UNDER $AU900, and I already said the shipping was fairly cheap (Ive done my homework).

800, People get them for $1050 here. You see now that is an item custom might charge you even though it is less than 1000.
So at the end.
$900
+90 (10%GST)
+50 (for converter)
- No warranty
- Always a risk the item might be lost...and all the headaches that it comes with.
- Lose on resell
All that to save $10

You see I have been doing my homework for quite a while as well.


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[Bracko]

>The adapaters - Ive heard from some people they are only $20, from others Ive heard they
>are $100???

a plug adapter is $20. you want a transformer, which is more. it converts 110V to 220V. it's worth it not to skimp on transformers.

CDJ800's tend to have platter issues. the mk2's haven't been around long enough to see if the problem has been transfered to the new design.

[DJ D one]

Thanks D one - that covers my questions well - Im hoping to hear from people that have actually been through this, both good and bad.

If I did choose to go the overseas option, I would only buy one thing at a time, and be absolutely sire it was all fine before I bought anything else.

I havent heard one person say its a good idea, so Im extremely wary - as I said Im doing as much research as I can before I lay down a load of money.

Im looking at 800s, not 1000s by the way.


Surely some would have, but the majority that comes here asking about Pio, are always refered to JB Hifi, with the mission of bargaining...honeslty it is your money, your decision.

Like I said some equipment might be worth it, EG Sennheiser Hd25, every body asking for them are sent to chemicalrecords in the UK...saving $210, no custom, and cheap shipping.

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[Dr Fegg]

Another point - yeh you might save some dollars, but one day you or your kids might want a job in a music shop... Maybe you might want to go into a music store one day just to have a touchy-feely play on some of the new gear or get some expert advice that no-one in a forum could deliver...?

Wouldn't it be a shame if there weren't any music stores in Oz anymore cos everyone bought overseas...? Still by then maybe the whole world will be rappin' in american accents & wearing chinese clothes and no-one will give a Paul Frank about it... </off hobbyhorse>
:)

[Bracko]

Thanks D one - that covers my questions well - Im hoping to hear from people that have actually been through this, both good and bad.



the 2 things I've bought from overseas have never been a problem as they were under 1k. warranty is never an issue as i have a guy who helps me out with parts supply in the event and I fix my own shit or get an electronics mate to help me out if it's in the too hard basket, not that I've had the problem thus far with them.

[boriskov]

bj9999 throw the idea of buying from overseas out the window!

I walked into JB yesterday and told them i'm here to buy 2 x cdj800s and 1 x djm400. The price? $999 per cdj and $699 for the mixer. I didn't even have to haggle that much, i just told the dude i know what he can do them for and he is going to do them for better then that or i'll buy elsewhere.

Brand new.. Check. Warranty.. Check. Will pioneer give a f*ck if something breaks.. Check. Will it run straight out of the box.. Check. Seriously wait the extra week to save the cash you think you might be saving by purchasing from overseas.

[boriskov]

Oh and I also got my HD-25s from chemical-records delivered yesterday too.

Best 2 pieces of advice on these forums that should be a sticky for all to see. You want pioneer go to JB. You want HD-25s get them from chemical-records.

As it stands for me now with the pioneer gear and the HD-25's i have spent $2,900.00. If you paid the price most online stores are asking it would be $3,900.00 easy.

[Bracko]

Brand new.. Check. Warranty.. Check. Will pioneer give a f*ck if something breaks.. Check. Will it run straight out of the box.. Check. Seriously wait the extra week to save the cash you think you might be saving by purchasing from overseas.

bzzt. pioneer never give a shit if something breaks, warranty or no warranty :P

[felixdahousecat]

just get items posted as "repaired - under warranty", saves all customs hassles.
1000's don't need a converter, they can be switched on the back

[DJ D one]

bj9999 throw the idea of buying from overseas out the window!

I walked into JB yesterday and told them i'm here to buy 2 x cdj800s and 1 x djm400. The price? $999 per cdj and $699 for the mixer. I didn't even have to haggle that much, i just told the dude i know what he can do them for and he is going to do them for better then that or i'll buy elsewhere.

Brand new.. Check. Warranty.. Check. Will pioneer give a f*ck if something breaks.. Check. Will it run straight out of the box.. Check. Seriously wait the extra week to save the cash you think you might be saving by purchasing from overseas.

I think that should close the thread, and respond to your questions BJ9999.

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[cheekyage]

I didn't realise JB were so competitive in price when it comes to Pioneer Pro DJ equipment.....I thought DJ Warehouse was the place to go....

The JB stores that I have been to don't usually stock the high-end Pionner equipment i.e. CDJ1000's and DJM800's unless there is a specific store that does?? :?

[DJ D one]

I didn't realise JB were so competitive in price when it comes to Pioneer Pro DJ equipment.....I thought DJ Warehouse was the place to go....

The JB stores that I have been to don't usually stock the high-end Pionner equipment i.e. CDJ1000's and DJM800's unless there is a specific store that does?? :?

I have seen them in Chatswood, although I am in the Castle Hill area they use to have them but not anymore.

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[Bracko]

Customs - the official customs website says no tax for goods under $1K. Is this the price you paid for them, or their Australian value if you bought them here? If you bought one CDJ, for, say, $AUS850 overseas (inc shipping), but it was worth $1200 here, do they still tax you? How much is the tax?



you may want to recalculate that figure.... :stroke:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/dollar-smashed-to-us80c-as-market-tumbles/2007/08/16/1186857631362.html

you just lost 10%

[boriskov]

I didn't realise JB were so competitive in price when it comes to Pioneer Pro DJ equipment.....I thought DJ Warehouse was the place to go....

The JB stores that I have been to don't usually stock the high-end Pionner equipment i.e. CDJ1000's and DJM800's unless there is a specific store that does?? :?

I had to try 3 different stores before I found one that would order in the gear. For anybody wondering don't bother with Chermside or Brisbane City stores, Kedron is the way to go.

Even then the only item they had on display was a lonely cdj1000 sitting in a glass case. JB's explanation for only select stores selling pro dj gear was that with their buying power Pioneer would have a cry with large quantities of top price bracket gear going out the door cheaply. Bullshit or not i don't know..

[frankxinyu]

i can get aussie delivered cdj1000mk3s for cheap every day........

cheaper than the american stock, but with pioneer warranty

go to the right place...

[cheekyage]

Willing to pass on the details frankxinyu?

[frankxinyu]

Willing to pass on the details frankxinyu?

pm sent

[DJ D one]

^^ LOL in Taiwan

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[frankxinyu]

^^ LOL in Taiwan

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what is that supposed to mean?? no, im not from taiwan

the business i was talking about was called Factory Sound located in Melbourne

highly recommanded! the price is unbelievable!

FYI, i have checked with Pioneer Aus, and they confirmed that Factory Sound is an authorised dealer...

[felixdahousecat]

receipt or STFU

[frankxinyu]

yes i do have receipts for my setup

but no, i am not going to show you

do whatever you fucken want, i dont give a flying fuck! buy it from america, from taiwan, from africa or your mom's mate's sister's dad's horse's store....

ppl asked, and i simply put in my experience

you can get fucked mate

[frankxinyu]

I had to try 3 different stores before I found one that would order in the gear. For anybody wondering don't bother with Chermside or Brisbane City stores, Kedron is the way to go.

Even then the only item they had on display was a lonely cdj1000 sitting in a glass case. JB's explanation for only select stores selling pro dj gear was that with their buying power Pioneer would have a cry with large quantities of top price bracket gear going out the door cheaply. Bullshit or not i don't know..

yeah kedron can get them, but it will take 3-4 weeks...for cdj1000s any way

and the price is not the lowest i have seen maybe lowest in brisbane, but not in australia

[DJ D one]

yes i do have receipts for my setup

but no, i am not going to show you

do whatever you fucken want, i dont give a flying fuck! buy it from america, from taiwan, from africa or your mom's mate's sister's dad's horse's store....

ppl asked, and i simply put in my experience

you can get fucked mate

So what is the price??? Is it your store? Did you s..k their d..ks to get it cheap?
What is your experience...here we are interested in price and not another f...... mistery...

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[Cosmica]

Generally speaking Denons are worth importing based on price, pioneers are not. Although the CDJ200 is priced well in the USA at the moment.

The aussie dollar is crashing right now so the advantage is being lost as we speak.

[frankxinyu]

So what is the price??? Is it your store? Did you s..k their d..ks to get it cheap?
What is your experience...here we are interested in price and not another f...... mistery...

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no it is not my store, but i am under the impression that you are in the business thus you do not like hearing good stories about competiters??

when i set up my account with factory sound, i agreed not to disclose general pricing information to the public, this is why i had to remove the figure i posted before in this thread.

all i can say is the price is the lowest i have found in australia, and if you are that keen to find out, call them. it is a 1800 number, it is free from your phone.

and no i did not suck their dicks to get them cheap, as im not in the same business with you. but i am sure you could try that, depends how good you are in your mouth and if you are willing to swallow.

[felixdahousecat]

get your hand off it, as i said before, receipts or STFU

[frankxinyu]

get your hand off it, as i said before, receipts or STFU

never realised there are so many wankers on this site...

watever mate, i dont care.

all i did was giving suggestions.....

you can get stuffed mate, i dont have to show you anything.

if you dont like what i said, dont fucken read. what does it have to do with you??

[Cosmica]

Take it easy, or the mods will start responding.

[frankxinyu]

never realise this would upset this many ppl....

seriously, if you are in the business of selling equipments,dont get me wrong, i do not work for any companies, i was trying to help the other bloke out.

i dont mean no harm to your business.

[DJ D one]

no it is not my store, but i am under the impression that you are in the business thus you do not like hearing good stories about competiters??

when i set up my account with factory sound, i agreed not to disclose general pricing information to the public, this is why i had to remove the figure i posted before in this thread.

all i can say is the price is the lowest i have found in australia, and if you are that keen to find out, call them. it is a 1800 number, it is free from your phone.

and no i did not suck their dicks to get them cheap, as im not in the same business with you. but i am sure you could try that, depends how good you are in your mouth and if you are willing to swallow.

No I am not competition...may be because you have an account with them you get better price...who knows?

As for the rest, sorry if it got a bit out of control and thanks for sharing info...

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[frankxinyu]

No I am not competition...may be because you have an account with them you get better price...who knows?

As for the rest, sorry if it got a bit out of control and thanks for sharing info...

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i set up the account with them over the phone....anyone can do it i think...

mate, i call peace on this, as i said, i was just giving him some suggestions...i meant no harm to anyone. i have said some harsh things, and i apologise.

[cowabungadude]

i wanna see the receipts

[magyar]

What's the best price floating around with the MKII's? Best price I got so far was $1099 from Factory Sound, I'm hoping to jump down to 3 digits, I don't even mind if I can get MKI's. I think after reading this thread, I'm looking at buying local as well, on eBay one place is selling MKII's new for around $850AUD incl. delivery.

[Spectrum]

^^^ Off Topic: But are you Hungarian by chance (ie. handle)?

[magyar]

^^^ Off Topic: But are you Hungarian by chance (ie. handle)?

Indeed I am! :thumb:

[magyar]

Just to let ppl know, that it looks like I'm going to pick up one MKII for $1050 at JB, they've beaten FS.

[littlebrains69]

^^Light sounds have them for $999 advertised price.

www.lightsounds.com.au <- check it out

[Bumpy]

^^Light sounds have them for $999 advertised price.

www.lightsounds.com.au <- check it out



No the CDJ-200's are $999 the CDJ-800's are $1,499

[littlebrains69]

No the CDJ-200's are $999 the CDJ-800's are $1,499
http://www.lightsounds.com/Portals/0/sitepix/xmas_sale07_p2s.pdf

Looks like $999 to me.

[Bumpy]

^^ ooh sorry i wasnt looking at the christmas sale catalouge

[littlebrains69]

Yeh it's sitting there on the home page but i should have elaborated. Anyway $1549 for 1000's - $999 for 800's - $699 for $200's and $1799 for DJM800's are pretty damn good advertised prices.

I've been in there before and tried to haggle them and they wouldn't drop to $1300 for CDJ800's for me so I got mine from JB for $1050 each. So I'm impressed they are giving them away for that price.

[magyar]

That's an online store, JB won't match that! They'll just give you the spill about the reason why buying online is cheaper due to no overheads blah blah.

[littlebrains69]

Its actually a store chain dude, you can walk in in syd and bris dude. Where are you at?

[littlebrains69]

Victoria eh?
VICTORIA

Megas Music Store**
130 High St Wodonga
Ph: (02) 6056 1044

Head Office: Lightsounds Pty Ltd
PO Box 19 Canterbury NSW 2193
International Callers Phone 61 2 9718 4900
Fax: (02) 9718 5900 * International Fax: 61 2 9718 5900
Email: sales@lightsounds.com

[budlik]

I bought my 2 cdj 800 mkIIs from the US - Aug last year.

Had both in Aus with shipping for $800 each. Then $50 for the transformer.

Get them sent seperately on different days to insure they arent hit with tax. Or have the person buying attatch a fake docket - saying its a gift worth less.


Chris

[magyar]

Its actually a store chain dude, you can walk in in syd and bris dude. Where are you at?

Oh ok, I take it back, I'm in Melbourne though, so I'm shit out of luck, they'll just say they don't price match other states.

[Jumpy1]

JB can suck it - lightsounds is the place for you... add about $40 for freight and WIN... call Megas music or take a weekend trip :)

[magyar]

JB can suck it - lightsounds is the place for you... add about $40 for freight and WIN... call Megas music or take a weekend trip :)


haha, nup, 1. Then there will be a $10 difference 2. I don't have to wait, pick up. 3. Warranty!

[Jumpy1]

Lightsounds has full Pioneer warranty!! Authorised Dealer

[magyar]

Lightsounds has full Pioneer warranty!! Authorised Dealer


If there is a problem then I will need to post it back!

[Jumpy1]

umm NO, a local pioneer repairers in your state will repair it... under the warranty. NO problem mate


BUT buy local if u are unsure or dont feel comfortable, thats all im saying... just don't buy OS, thats a HUGE risk :P

[littlebrains69]

^^ Jumpys right. As long as you purchase it in Aus you can get it repaired locally at an Authorized warranty repairer. I bought some Stanton C.303's when I first started (don't do that!) from sydney, and one of them kept fucking up, but i just took it to the local authorized stanton repairer in Bris and they fixed it each time for free. If you wanna go with JB thats cool, but just remember there is a Lightsounds in wadonga and so thats on your state + you can take in their printed catalogue to prove it, so that might help you haggle the extra $50 out of JB to make them $1000 even.

Best of luck though dude. I own 800's and play on 1000's out, and they are the awesome stepping stone, same layout, same feel and almost the same features, you wont even notice what they dont have until youve been at it for a while and it actually matters.

[brooklyn909]

Here is one more to add to equation.......dj warehouse has 8 EX hire $1350 /6 months warranty or new 2 x cdj1000 and Ecler Nuo 4 for $4200 on a one day sale on Saturday!! Food for thought.

[gamblore]

Ohhhh, ex hire, sounds nasty!

[littlebrains69]

Yeh hire stuff = bad. You might be lucky and its nice that they are offering a 6 month warranty but generally people treat hire gear like shit and bash the f**k out of it. And considering you can get new 1000's for $1500 I'd rather pay the extra $150 for peace of mind.

[magyar]

I just picked up a 800 for $1010 from JB.

[Jumpy1]

thats good buying... enjoy them !!

[brooklyn909]

Yeh hire stuff = bad. You might be lucky and its nice that they are offering a 6 month warranty but generally people treat hire gear like shit and bash the f**k out of it. And considering you can get new 1000's for $1500 I'd rather pay the extra $150 for peace of mind.
I agree!!!! I was just throwing it in as an option.

[magyar]

Thanks guys for the input, liking it a lot, mixing between the 800 and 1200.

[Cheeky Banjo]

thank you all for a very informative (and entertaining) read. i was headed for ebay this xmas, but i reckon i might just head down the street instead and pit factory sound against jb........

cheers!

[The Good Doctor]

Buying from The States you'll need to do a power conversion. Had a friend who imported a pair of the first CDJ's when they hit the market and after getting sick of carting those transformer boxes round did a power conversion..from what I remember it wasn't cheap.

[gamblore]

I had a second hand CDJ800 off ebay for a few years. Got a mate to get me a transformer from work. It worked better than the Australian CDJ800 I had! I also got it for around 600 second hand, which was an incredible price at the time.