View Full Version : Rane Empath vs. Ecler nuo3
entropy1
12-Sep-07, 11:22pm
hey, im looking at these two mixers. i'm a EDM dj but i'm kinda interested in learning to scratch.
I'm looking at importing the empath, hence it will be about the same price as the nuo3
what's peoples opinions?
ac1d3o3
13-Sep-07, 10:12am
the rane kicks ass. was gonna buy one until i realised i could get the xone62 for the same price. but since you wanna learn how to scratch i def wouldnt recommend the 62.
in terms of the empath, you really cant go wrong w/ the build quality.
The faders are awesome and its built like a tank!
havent touched a nuo3 before so i cant comment.
andreas
13-Sep-07, 11:37am
NUO 3 is great quality to with great sound? Whats warranty like if you buy from OS (should something go wrong)
entropy1
13-Sep-07, 04:06pm
umm, depending on where i buy from 6 months or no warranty, which has me a bit concered, but apparently not much goes wrong with ranes.
although, the nuo has a 3 year warranty
andreas
13-Sep-07, 04:13pm
I mean if you buy from the states do you have to return it to the states or can you get the Aus
agent to service it?
That's a tough choice man. I personally would go with the empath, but the best thing to do would be go and get your mitts on them both, see which has the best feeling pots and faders and stuff. They will both be good for scratching AND mixing, but the Rane has a more flexible FX loop (guess thats why it's called FlexFX :P )
entropy1
13-Sep-07, 04:31pm
I mean if you buy from the states do you have to return it to the states or can you get the Aus
agent to service it?
well it depends, if i buy Bstock then it's got a six month warranty, and ebay obviously has none, i would have to pay for postage back to the US to get repaired. it's about $100ish i think.
i'm going to go to storedj when i go to melb and try these both out (hopefully they will have both on display?), and either buy the nuo3 or decide to get the empath
andreas
13-Sep-07, 04:52pm
good work
the send return features on the empath are better from memory.
otherwise they're both great mixers.
defected819
13-Sep-07, 07:14pm
I love both these mixers. I have an empath and my buddie as the nuo 3. The empath feels a lil more legit when bumpin faders around. The nuo has NICE BIG KNOBS. I'd say the empath has better sound. But it's quite more expensive. Either way you will be sittin tight imo.
entropy1
13-Sep-07, 07:36pm
hmm, i do plan on adding a kaoss pad or efx1000 in the future (or both :p). but yeah, there are the same price, sans the warranty on the rane
TurntableTech
14-Sep-07, 07:01am
The Empath is more solid. P&G faders for both CH and XFADE.
Both a good choice.
defected819
14-Sep-07, 08:32am
hmm, i do plan on adding a kaoss pad or efx1000 in the future (or both :p). but yeah, there are the same price, sans the warranty on the rane
Same price? Where? Last I saw the Nuo 3 was 999 and the Empath was around 1700.
There is a big difference in price!
I picked up a Nuo3 from Storedj.com.au for $850.
There is also a mob in QLD that sell them on ebay.
andreas
14-Sep-07, 10:59am
He is talking about getting the Empath in the states.. Thats why I was asking about warranty
etc.
entropy1
14-Sep-07, 01:57pm
There is a big difference in price!
I picked up a Nuo3 from Storedj.com.au for $850.
yeah, importing it from the US.
hmm, $850 eh? so you haggled them down abit from the $975 list price? good to know
i would also agree tht I'd prefer the EQ knobs on the nuo 3.
it's a 6 of one 1/2 doz of the other.... if you were playing more breaks, funky, mashup kind of stuff the empath would be better, if you were playing more prog house, trance I'd be heading for the nuo, depending on the nuo's XF curve arrangement, can you change it? CBF'd looking :P
entropy1
14-Sep-07, 08:01pm
depending on the nuo's XF curve arrangement, can you change it? CBF'd looking :P
the nuo3 has a pretty decent Xfade that can be changed alot, including cut in time.
i know they are both excellent mixers, just wanted peoples opinions and wondered if there was anything i should look for (like omg the xxxx doesn't work with blah blah)
you won't get that. ecler and rane are 2 of the best sound companies in the world. their mixers are well made and well positioned in the market to give DJ's the best chance of not sounding shit ;)
defected819
15-Sep-07, 12:47pm
Yeah either way you're ok.
The other choice is the djm 700! :P
entropy1
15-Sep-07, 08:26pm
The other choice is the djm 700! :P
nah, the djm700 is a bit expensive ($1300 USD at audiolines) and i don't want onbaord effects. and pioneer suxs 8)
entropy1
15-Sep-07, 10:49pm
DJM 800 is a good buy
yeah, good to know :meh:
defected819
16-Sep-07, 10:29am
nah, the djm700 is a bit expensive ($1300 USD at audiolines) and i don't want onbaord effects. and pioneer suxs 8)
Jokes man. See > :P
entropy1
16-Sep-07, 02:41pm
ahh, i see, stupid monkey things confusing me.grrr
ekwipt wasn't joking though :/
DJM800 is actually a good mixer when compared to a DJM600.
i actually don't mind using it at all.
entropy1
16-Sep-07, 06:59pm
yeah, it is much better than the DJM600, but it's completely out of my price and needs
entropy1
19-Sep-07, 05:37pm
went and had a play with them both today. I love the rane's faders, very smooth. More so than the nuo3. In my opinion the rane wins hands down vs the nuo after playing with them both. and the only downside to the rane is the stupidly tiny "transform" switches
entropy1
11-Oct-07, 01:11pm
well, i ended up importing a NEW empath from the states, costing me $1150 from audiolines.com inc shipping, loving the mixer
lettuce know what the full cost is and if you get stung by import tax.
lettuce
Bhaha lettuce, were you just down at the green groccers bracko?
entropy1
11-Oct-07, 07:41pm
that was the full cost, $1150 inc everything.
i paid:
$850USD for the mixer itself
$150USD for shipping via USPS
and $30AUD for the "wire transfer" bank fee (i didn't include this in the cost)
if you import something under $1000AUS it's free of ALL taxes if shipped via USPS (USP and fedex are classed as "shipping" rather than a "postal" service, so the threshold is only $250 for them)
with the current strong dollar it was under the $1000AUS threshold (and i got them to charge me $250 for shipping and $750 for the mixer, just in case :P)
so ALL up, delivered to my door it was $1150 + wire transfer fee (oh and $8 power cable)
nice work then cunt :thumb:
can you run american electronics in aus? usually it blows up (not quite as badly as it sounds though) because we use both a different voltage an frequency to them, voltage can be changed easy but frequency cant.
entropy1
11-Oct-07, 09:28pm
the empath is specifically designed to be used anywhere in the world without converters, it handles 100-240V, 50-60Hz
from the rane site:
"Features Important to DJs
Universal internal power supply. When traveling, finding power supply adapters is difficult. The Empath accepts 100 to 240 VAC, 50/60 Hz power, for use anywhere in the world without adapters. "
Mixers usually have a switch and knobs and what not that can change all that i think
you have no fucking idea, yet you feel the need to post.... why is that?
it depends on the brand. some have universal voltage (internal electronical switching) some have external switching and some need transformers.
read the specs if you're unsure.
gamblore
11-Oct-07, 11:49pm
you have no fucking idea, yet you feel the need to post.... why is that?
Get used to it dude, it's been happening a lot around here and I don't think it's going to get much better...
i really don't think you need to be telling someone who's been here for 5+ years and an embarrassingly high post count that.
The Rane Empath is hands down the best mixer i've ever used.
And i've been doin this for donkeys...
gamblore
12-Oct-07, 09:09am
The Rane Empath is hands down the best mixer i've ever used.
Why, I'm interested. Elaborate.
you have no fucking idea, yet you feel the need to post.... why is that?
it depends on the brand. some have universal voltage (internal electronical switching) some have external switching and some need transformers.
read the specs if you're unsure.
were you talking to me bracko? or lenom?
oliosky
12-Oct-07, 10:09am
were you talking to me bracko? or lenom?
A little from column A, a little from column B.
Well my mixer has a switch which can change the voltage so I'm just going from what i know
gamblore
12-Oct-07, 11:56am
Well my mixer has a switch which can change the voltage so I'm just going from what i know
Well one specfic examples doesn't really qualify as 'usual'.
^^ lol yeh sorry my bad.. but i just assumed.. but then again assumptions are bad as we have just found out
I was also saying that on the basis that my mixer is an old cheap mixer so i assumed that newer expensive mixers would be able to change thus as well
entropy1
12-Oct-07, 05:46pm
Why, I'm interested. Elaborate.
well, it's a Rane so it has very good build quailty and support, the headphone monitoring and efffects loops are extremely flexible aswell (probably the best i've ever seen), the faders are also very good for scratch djs, it also has 1/4", xlr and rca outputs too
but that's just my opinion
^^^ took the words right out of my mouth
paul master
08-Nov-07, 04:47pm
Ecler nuo3 are selling at dj warehouse and have free shipping
www.djwarehouse.com.au
entropy1
08-Nov-07, 05:45pm
^ really, dude, that's great... djdeals.com.au also have the ecler and also have free shipping but due to the stength of the dollar i got an imported new empath
paul master
08-Nov-07, 05:59pm
Good mixer the empath.
Just for your info, i work at DJ Warehouse in sydney and we would have been happy to sell you the Ecler for well under the $800 mark, generally we're quite competitive with price..
If you are ever after anything else then give me a call.
entropy1
08-Nov-07, 07:33pm
yeah, thanks mate, i got SSL of you guys a while ago
entropy1
08-Nov-07, 07:36pm
actually i'll be looking for either a kp3 or efx1000 next year so i might give you guys a call
Good mixer the empath.
Just for your info, i work at DJ Warehouse in sydney and we would have been happy to sell you the Ecler for well under the $800 mark, generally we're quite competitive with price..
If you are ever after anything else then give me a call.
you guys sell all the Urei 1601's in the last one day sale?
I'm possibly looking.
paul master
09-Nov-07, 10:41am
We have 1 brand new 1603 in the box that we are going to clear off cheap ($550) if you want that. All other models are gone.
voodoo people
09-Nov-07, 02:10pm
ecler for $800, that makes it around 1/2 the price of the Rane!
i've never used a nuo3 but i own an empath and use my mates nuo2 when i'm over there...
rane is the most flexable mixer you'll buy i rekon in terms of outputs, effects loops and cue (headphone monitoring) options. penny giles faders are butter smooth all day and the eq's and sound quality are second to none.
i should be a rane salesman! or i could be justifying the money i spent on mine... but trust me, the old girl speaks for herself.
entropy1
09-Nov-07, 04:38pm
^it's not half the price if you import it
paul master
09-Nov-07, 07:49pm
I would hate to see if you have a problem with it.
We have 1 brand new 1603 in the box that we are going to clear off cheap ($550) if you want that. All other models are gone.
bought one of the open boxes in the last sale.
need a compact(ish) mixer for my unit.
oliosky
09-Nov-07, 10:00pm
bought one of the open boxes in the last sale.
need a compact(ish) mixer for my unit.
Don't want a Tascam XS8 do you?
nope.
either vestax or Urei.
gamblore
10-Nov-07, 11:36am
How is the Urei? Hows the sound? That 1603 sounds very tempting especially for the price!
yeah, not bad. pretty basic on the features, no pan per channel and there's something really strange with the cue. when all the cue buttons are off you can still hear the cue :crazy: I'm not sure whether mine is r00ted or not, i guess i should find out.
good sound and XLR outs. I loved the tascam, but i just want a simple mixer to do a simple task now.
entropy1
10-Nov-07, 12:55pm
I would hate to see if you have a problem with it.
it's a RANE so that shouldnt happen :P. But if i do, i have spoken to rane and i have a full warranty - but i must pay to get it back to the states. based on the current shipping rates and the current price for an empath in australia, as long as i dont have to ship it back more than once i'm still in front - although i would be without a mixer for 3 weeks (and that doesnt really bother my cos i'm a bedroom Dj)
i got the mixer for about the same price as b-stock/demo units except instead of 6 month/etc warrenty it has a full warranty
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