What's the name of the itm member that specialize in Night Club setup

[DJ D one]

Hi guys,

I remember there was a member of this forum that was a specialist of night club installation, can't remember exactly if he was doing the whole thing lights etc or just audio system, but anyway, if you remember of his itm name, let me know...

Thanks
D1

[TurntableTech]

Perhaps me? Possibly others.

[ShyBoy]

Polarbear?

[Neo_]

Polarbear is BDO i think.

Not so much nightclub installations and stuff.

The other guy would be DJWAZ or summink like that.

[TurntableTech]

What is it you require?

[DJ D one]

DJ WAZZA or WAZ that is right, thanks Neo.

Hey TT, just trying to get some contact for the future.

D1

[xcentrik]

these guys? dunno if they are on ITM but i came across these guys through the pioneer dj catalog http://www.djwprojects.com.au/

[ChAbIb]

are you opening up your own club or something

[gamblore]

Nope TT definately knows what he is talking about!

[TurntableTech]

these guys? dunno if they are on ITM but i came across these guys through the pioneer dj catalog http://www.djwprojects.com.au/

Personally from first hand experience, I wouldn't recommend this guy. I'm well aware of his work having worked for the same company as him some years ago.

Having said that, Australia is full of them. Which is part of the reason I work in corporate, goverment and miltary AV Integration now.

Wazza is pretty much a free-lancer and works for a few different companies.

[xcentrik]

fair enough.. i wouldn't of known myself.. just thought the installs were pretty cool lookin' IMO :)

[DJ D one]

are you opening up your own club or something

Lol...not tomorrow, but basicaly my mother has that piece of land back in my hometown where she always wanted to build that little resort, these last few months they were lots of talk about it, my wife is really keen on the idea, plus might turn out to suck all the immediate family into it. Yesterday I said I wanted to go back there and open my own Night Club, lol it seems my wife was not quiet convinced...said i was not 18 anymore!!! Whatever that means...but since I am probably the only one that can make things happen for the resort, she was smart and told me that if we did the resort I could probably get my little joint in there...

So it does make me think a lot. The thing would have to be sound proof, I am thinking between 100sqm - 200sqm, anyway it might never happen, but in anycase if I do it I might need some help with Sound System and Lighting so I am collecting contact in case.

D1

[TurntableTech]

Lol...not tomorrow, but basicaly my mother has that piece of land back in my hometown where she always wanted to build that little resort, these last few months they were lots of talk about it, my wife is really keen on the idea, plus might turn out to suck all the immediate family into it. Yesterday I said I wanted to go back there and open my own Night Club, lol it seems my wife was not quiet convinced...said i was not 18 anymore!!! Whatever that means...but since I am probably the only one that can make things happen for the resort, she was smart and told me that if we did the resort I could probably get my little joint in there...

So it does make me think a lot. The thing would have to be sound proof, I am thinking between 100sqm - 200sqm, anyway it might never happen, but in anycase if I do it I might need some help with Sound System and Lighting so I am collecting contact in case.

D1

The first things you need in no particular order is

A budget
An acoustic consultant (for sound proofing &/or noise issues)
A clue

If you don't have at least $750,000 to open a small bar club, then don't even bother thinking about it. You'll be wasting your time and everyone elses.

[DJ D one]

The first things you need in no particular order is

A budget
An acoustic consultant (for sound proofing &/or noise issues)
A clue

If you don't have at least $750,000 to open a small bar club, then don't even bother thinking about it. You'll be wasting your time and everyone elses.

Where I come from, what you need is a bar, a couple of speakers, and lot of booze...$750 000 is a bit high!!! What is it that is so expensive?

D1

[SlicyDicer]

Maybe he's including booze and other shit like that? To open a club from scratch that's half decent you'd probably be looking at something like that figure.

[DJ D one]

I am talking a little joint able to accomodate about 100 people not an Ibiza night club, probably this would be about right for a capital city club like Sydney...never mind, I have a pretty good idea of what it will cost for everything else except, my only problem is sound proofing because it is in a resort...that... I have no idea...oh yeah it is not in Australia as well...

D1

[truba]

fuck, licence to sell grog alone is 500k i think.

[DJ D one]

fuck, licence to sell grog alone is 500k i think.

Yeah in OZ it is expensive...as for me I only need Audio (CDJs/Mixer/ efx/Speaker Management system/ amps / speakers / cables / a few backup units of everything etc... / lights / effects / laser / all need to be dmx stuff / fog machines/ maybe some brakets although welding is no problem / and sound proofing.
The furniture and inside layout, I already know where to get. Most of the work will be done by my guys and myself. The license and business side is considered done.

All I really need to know is how to sound proof the place, what brand of amps to get, what brand of speakers to get, and which speaker management system to get (Hopefully it will have integrated eqs).

The rest...........I'll google it!!!!

D1

[djwaz]

I'm here! haha... PM me :-)

[djwaz]

fair enough.. i wouldn't of known myself.. just thought the installs were pretty cool lookin' IMO :)

and looks are deceiving, its how its sounds that really counts...

[TurntableTech]

All I really need to know is how to sound proof the place, what brand of amps to get, what brand of speakers to get, and which speaker management system to get
D1

Sound proofing a building --> Acoustics Consultant

Speakers to get --> Application and environment specific. Any one that recommends brands alone or particular models of speaker without scoping or analysing a room environment and looking at things such as room dimensions, structure surfaces, room volume (cubic size) etc does not have a clue what they are talking about. Brands and models is absolutely irrelevant till some determination can be made on what is actually required and what needs to be achieved.

Amplifiers --> This you can pretty much specify known reliable and good performing units ONCE you have determined the speakers that will be used. Speaker will dictate what amplifiers are required (See above). My preference is Lab.Gruppen, Camco or MC2 Audio and occassionally some particular models of Crown and QSC amps.

Speaker Management --> This is determined loosely by the speakers but actually by the system complexity how many in's and outs are required by it. My personal preference is to use BSS Audio, TC Electronic, XTA, Biamp or Klark-Teknik. No matter what you use though, it's only going to be good as the person that's commissioning it.

[DJ D one]

Thanks TT very useful info.

D1

[TurntableTech]

I forgot to mention 95% of people will tell you some bullshit because 95% really don't have a clue.

[ferretrock]

these guys? dunno if they are on ITM but i came across these guys through the pioneer dj catalog http://www.djwprojects.com.au/

that site looks totally fucking twatty... a DJ rig on a piano? yeah, that's fucking useless for acoustical insulation (avoiding vibration)!
looks like wank

[Donnie Darko]

dont mean to be rude, but what exactly do you do waz? ( if you dont mind divulging on a public forum, otherwise pm me ) would love to track down a source for that sweet looking truss you built your decks stand out of :)

[big eddie]

that site looks totally fucking twatty... a DJ rig on a piano? yeah, that's fucking useless for acoustical insulation (avoiding vibration)!
looks like wank

I attended many, many awesome parties at honkytonks with the decks on the baby grand ;)

[Garthyboy]

The first things you need in no particular order is

A budget
An acoustic consultant (for sound proofing &/or noise issues)
A clue

If you don't have at least $750,000 to open a small bar club, then don't even bother thinking about it. You'll be wasting your time and everyone elses.


I have to agree whole heartedly
I reckon i could suck up 500K setting up my own house with audio visual if I had the money.

Good gear does not come cheap.

[hoppuspears]

What town is this in?

If all you want is 100 people you could spend.

6000 on 4 x15inch speakers
2000 on 2 x18inch subs
300 on cabeling

Then like even

$2000 on lights get like 4 or 5.

That would get you an insane setup. Plus youd get a mass discount if you bought from one place like warehouse sound or factory sound.

And there's no reason you couldnt mount them and wire them by yourself. If you take time you could find nice positions and stuff

[djwaz]

Sound proofing a building --> Acoustics Consultant

Speakers to get --> Application and environment specific. Any one that recommends brands alone or particular models of speaker without scoping or analysing a room environment and looking at things such as room dimensions, structure surfaces, room volume (cubic size) etc does not have a clue what they are talking about. Brands and models is absolutely irrelevant till some determination can be made on what is actually required and what needs to be achieved.

Amplifiers --> This you can pretty much specify known reliable and good performing units ONCE you have determined the speakers that will be used. Speaker will dictate what amplifiers are required (See above). My preference is Lab.Gruppen, Camco or MC2 Audio and occassionally some particular models of Crown and QSC amps.

Speaker Management --> This is determined loosely by the speakers but actually by the system complexity how many in's and outs are required by it. My personal preference is to use BSS Audio, TC Electronic, XTA, Biamp or Klark-Teknik. No matter what you use though, it's only going to be good as the person that's commissioning it.


Yes

I forgot to mention 95% of people will tell you some bullshit because 95% really don't have a clue.

Definately. Such as:


And there's no reason you couldnt mount them and wire them by yourself. If you take time you could find nice positions and stuff

hahaha :rainman:

[Neo_]

I love the Dj forum. It keeps me laughing all day long. :lol:

[TurntableTech]

Speakers to get --> Application and environment specific. Anyone that recommends brands alone or particular models of speaker without scoping or analysing a room environment and looking at things such as room dimensions, structure surfaces, room volume (cubic size) etc does not have a clue what they are talking about.

6000 on 4 x15inch speakers
2000 on 2 x18inch subs
300 on cabeling
:slap:

And if you don't have a clue like yourself you could spend tens of thousands and buy yourself one... or a University degree as it happens.

http://www.arch.usyd.edu.au/programs_of_study/postgraduate/audio_acoustics.shtml

[DJ D one]

What town is this in?

If all you want is 100 people you could spend.

6000 on 4 x15inch speakers
2000 on 2 x18inch subs
300 on cabeling

Then like even

$2000 on lights get like 4 or 5.

That would get you an insane setup. Plus youd get a mass discount if you bought from one place like warehouse sound or factory sound.

And there's no reason you couldnt mount them and wire them by yourself. If you take time you could find nice positions and stuff

There are 2 ways of doing this, either you do it joint style, either you do it pro club style.
If you think that people that have little bars in Bali spent $750 000 on their setup you might be disapointed...look I can setup a joint no problem. In my case if had to setup a biz on a location where I do not own the place, I probably do it joint style. Now if I had to do it in a resort or any structure I actually own, I would actually hire consultant for soundproofing, and have the audio done by a pro.

As I was thinking about the idea, it went from a little place part of a resort to a complete standalone club...ahahaha it's good to dream...

The idea for the standalone is so massive, that you could probably franchise it...I can't say more, but it is so effective that anybody that sees the thing once or twice, will have only one obssession...to enter it...

D1

[DJ D one]

By the way TT and DJWAZ can you please pm me your details for future reference...thanks

D1

[TurntableTech]

By the way TT and DJWAZ can you please pm me your details for future reference...thanks

D1

The REAL advice doesn't come free btw ;)

[DJ D one]

The REAL advice doesn't come free btw ;)

Lol...I know...

[hoppuspears]

:slap:

And if you don't have a clue like yourself you could spend tens of thousands and buy yourself one... or a University degree as it happens.

http://www.arch.usyd.edu.au/programs_of_study/postgraduate/audio_acoustics.shtml

I was giving a rough idea of what you could do and how much to spend. Obviously there are other factor to put into place. Fact is he claims he wants 100 guests so i dont see a need for anything outragoues.

[Jumpy1]

take a look at some aus magazines like venue, audio technology and Industry Mag, ull find some useful ideas and contacts in them

for a small bar & 1 hundred people great sound doesnt need to be expensive.

sound like a fun plan mate, good luck

[Jumpy1]

oh and its usually the lighting that they DO WRONG :/ gotta make a atmosphere