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boriskov
08-Nov-07, 10:36am
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PIONEER BRIDGES THE GAP BETWEEN COMPUTER JOCKS AND CD JOCKS WITH THE NEW CDJ-400 DIGITAL TURNTABLE
LONG BEACH (November 7, 2007) – Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. Professional Sound and Visual Division, the leader in Pro DJ products and the innovator of the CD turntable, unveiled the latest addition to its family of CD turntables, the CDJ-400. The CDJ-400 combines a sampling of features found in the different levels of Pioneer’s CDJ series with the simplicity of a standard CD turntable, including USB1 integration and MP3 playback, MIDI support, scratching capability, scratch jog effect and a variety of looping functions.
“We’re making it versatile and easy to get more control of digital music mixing by developing products like the CDJ-400,” said Matt Dever, vice president for Pioneer’s Professional Sound and Visual Division. “We’ve made the player very affordable for DJs. The CDJ-400 is packed with features that are ideal for different levels of DJs, from the ‘newbies’ to the professional DJs who want to better manipulate their DJ computer software.”
USB Integration and MP3 Playback
The CDJ-400’s cosmetic design is simple and compact yet elegant with all of its various controls and features located directly on top of the unit. A USB port found on the face of the player allows DJs to play their MP3 music collection from a wide variety of portable music devices such as thumb drives, MP3 players or external hard drives. With the use of a multi-function selector knob/button and its large, bright, dot-matrix LCD display, locating and accessing of files from these types of music devices as well as MP3 music files on CD and CD-R/RW through the CD slot are done with a turn and press of the knob.
DJ Software Compatibility and MIDI Control
With more of today’s DJs utilizing different DJ software for their performances, the CDJ-400 is also equipped with a PC mode. In this mode, the CDJ-400 is a native controller for software such as Pioneer DJS2 computer software and SERATO® Scratch LIVE3. For example, the movement of the pitch slider on the CDJ-400 can control the pitch slider on the computer software and no timecode CD is required for audio control. The player can also act as a MIDI controller where the user can assign virtually every button on the player to trigger functions of various DJ software programs.
World’s First Scratch Jog Effect
A highlight and an advancement of the CDJ-400 is its scratching capability. In addition to traditional “vinyl” mode scratching, Pioneer implemented the World’s First Scratch Jog Effect. Three highlighted buttons, each assigned to a special effect, Bubble, Trans and Wah, creates unique scratching sound effects that can be enabled by the DJ on the fly. A “hold” button was also added to retain the different effects throughout the session or until its release, which can also be triggered at any point of play.
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Pioneer CDJ-400 Turntable pg. 2
Additional features in the CDJ-400 include:
• Digital Loop functions: A variety of loops can be created for additional audio effects
o Beat Loop: Automatically creates four beat loop based on the beats per minute (BPM) of music currently being played
o Loop Divide: Rhythmically divides the loop in halves to create different patterns
o Hot Loop: Restarts the loop seamlessly from its entry without interruption of the music
• Digital Jog Break: In CD mode the CDJ-400 contains three effects, Jet, Roll and Wah, which further enhances the audio by simply rotating the jog dial. The same buttons for the Scratch Jog Effect are assigned to the Digital Jog Break which are accessible at any point of play
• Tempo Control: Four tempo modes, ±6％, ±10％, ±16％ and WIDE4, provide additional speed control with a resolution of 0.02% in the 6% range
• Cue/Loop Points: Up to 10 cue/loop points per disc, for up to 920 discs can be stored in memory
• Jog Indicator: A break in the red halo illumination around the jog wheel provides instantaneous feedback to the DJ
• Customizable Jog Wheel: The top of the jog wheel can be removed enabling the user to add their own customized image
• Digital Output: A digital output is available for a direct connection for clearer sound to a connected mixer
• Resume Function: The function takes effect if a CD is ejected accidentally. Once the DJ re-inserts the disc, it automatically starts playing from exactly the point where it stopped
The CDJ-400 will be available in January 2008 with a manufacturer suggested retail price of $750.00.
Pioneer offers a complete line of professional DJ equipment through its Professional Sound and Visual Division. Their DJM, CDJ and DVJ Professional DJ equipment are known for their high quality sound and reliability and considered the industry standard at clubs, studios, mobile rigs and homes around the world. For more information, visit www.PioneerProDj.com.
Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. is headquartered in Long Beach, California, and its U.S. Web address is www.pioneerelectronics.com. Its parent company, Pioneer Corporation, is a leader in optical disc technology and a pre-eminent manufacturer of high-performance audio, video and computer equipment for the home, car and business markets. The company focuses on four core business domains including Blu-ray Disc and DVD, display technologies, navigation and Digital Network Entertainment™.
PIONEER is a registered trademark of Pioneer Corporation.
Serato is a registered trademark of Serato Audio Research
1 Player supports mass storage-class USB memory, but may not support playback of all USB devices or provide sufficient electrical power for them. The player cannot play copyright-protected files
2 Controls DJS using version 1.5 (update scheduled for January 2008) or later versions. For further details, visit http://www.proDJnet.com/support/ (launch scheduled for early December 2007)
3 Support for the CDJ-400 will be included in Serato Scratch LIVE in early 2008. Serato Scratch LIVE software is not included with the
CDJ-400. More DJ software applications pending from other companies, but Pioneer may not guarantee performance of software on
user’s PCs.
4 WIDE mode not available on MP3 files
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Pioneer CDJ-400 Turntable pg. 3
CDJ-400 Specifications:
Disc Type CD, CD-R/RW, MP3
Compatible Media USB memory (FAT format, MP3)
Output Terminals Audio Out (RCA), Digital Out (Coaxial)
Other Terminals Control (3.5 mm mini plug)
Power Requirements 120 V (60 Hz)
Power Consumption 17 Watts
Weight 5.95 Lbs
Dimensions 8.54 (W) x 11.66 (D) x 4.2 (H) in
Frequency Response 4 Hz to 20 kHz
Signal-to-Noise Ratio 115dB or greater (JEITA)
Distortion 0.006% (JEITA)
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boriskov
08-Nov-07, 10:38am
Well what can I say, it looks like a pretty good piece of gear.
KuRuPTeD
08-Nov-07, 10:54am
i'm not impressed, it's nothing the Numark iCDX did over a year ago.
Ah well it is pio, it will sell.
richcur
08-Nov-07, 10:59am
I'd buy it.. just alone for home use, shame it doesn't have the SD card feature so you could prepare 1000 data on it ready for gigs
boriskov
08-Nov-07, 11:03am
Would make a sweet third deck with an existing set up that's for sure.
I'd buy it.. just alone for home use, shame it doesn't have the SD card feature so you could prepare 1000 data on it ready for gigs
Could you do the same but transfer the data via a card reader/ writer?
I think its a bloody awesome bit of kit. Yeah, its not pushing major boundaries but its certainly implemented them in a far better package than numark ever did.
I could see them being my next two players, i wonder what the price point will be...
EDIT: So when is it due out??
I will replace my 2x CDJ100 with these next year.
Pitch increments and looping functions have got me.
Is that $750 AUD?
trenthalliday
08-Nov-07, 11:24am
This does seem a little bit too good to be true....reading the specs you would think it would leave all their other entry to mid level CDJ's completely redundant.....
I will replace my 2x CDJ100 with these next year.
Pitch increments and looping functions have got me.
Is that $750 AUD?
Shit even if its US it only makes them $800AUD if the dollar stays the way it does.
I will be doing the same and selling my 1000.
The midi capabilities and other guff like play off usb sticks and that have me sold
I like the look of this - big fan of the USB plus on a basic CDJ! Ive just got a 200 as my third deck but would have seriously considered this as an alternative if it was out
This isnt a basic CDJ by any stretch of the imagination
Random_Kiwi
08-Nov-07, 12:00pm
This does seem a little bit too good to be true....reading the specs you would think it would leave all their other entry to mid level CDJ's completely redundant.....
That's exactly what I was thinking!
Tempo Control: Four tempo modes, ±6％, ±10％, ±16％ and WIDE4, provide additional speed control with a resolution of 0.02% in the 6% range
Goodbye CDJ 800!
andreas
08-Nov-07, 12:01pm
My guess is that it will be closer to 1000 once its landed in aus, tax and other margins are added?
Random_Kiwi
08-Nov-07, 12:16pm
Yeah, but that's still cheaper than the 800 and from what I can tell from the features, it competely pwns it!
Music_Pirate
08-Nov-07, 12:35pm
So glad I didn't lash out on 800s :) And can someone say HELLO Serato :)
Any eta on when it will be released, and if so, price/availability in Aus?
Cheers
EDIT - From Scratchworx
Price and availability
The CDJ-400 is available from Pioneer’s distribution network, details of which can be found at www.pioneerprodj.eu. Future video of the CDJ-400 will be available on Pioneer’s community video website – www.djsounds.com. The CDJ-400 will be available from January 2008 with a price of around €550 (excluding VAT).
So that makes it mk3 territory :-O
I will replace my 2x CDJ100 with these next year.
Pitch increments and looping functions have got me.
Is that $750 AUD?
+1
the jog wheel looks acceptable for home mixing and with .02% pitch ALOT less platter touching would be required over 100s. i can definitely live without waveform display, hot cues, etc for mixing at home, but as rich said, would have been nice to have SD capabilities... but you cant have everything in an entry level!
the serato capabilities would be handy too as ive been considering traktor or serato...
mmm might try and flog off the cdj-100s asap. who wants to buy? :lol:
Customizable Jog Wheel: The top of the jog wheel can be removed enabling the user to add their own customized image
im putting a tit on each one ;D
Looks like ive found my new cdj.
andreas
08-Nov-07, 02:07pm
My guess is that pioneer would not put this in direct competition with the 800 unless the remake
of the 800 is not far away (+ there is a price hike in the new 800 coming??)
It may be my CD deck in the UK that is for sure.
Can't wait to see what happens to the 1000 range after this. The MKIV should be something!!!
P_A_Sime
08-Nov-07, 02:13pm
I hope there aint a MKIV coming to soon, i just got 4 MK3's recently.
I doubt it, though you have to think about whats in store for future product releases/ development if this product does as well as i think it will.
A CDJ 1000 with these features in it would kill.
perhaps pioneer have decided to just go for 2 cdj lines instead of 3?
Junksack
08-Nov-07, 03:43pm
damn i just picked up a pair of cdj200's. might have to pick up one of these as a 3rd or try and flog off a 200 when they come out. these cjd400's look like they would complement a 200 nicely. Even if the RRP is around the $1K mark that would still be good value i reckon.
ARGGH And i was gonna go buy a pair or CDJ800's on the weekend. Although the 800's look like they've got a bigger jog wheel... which i like.
I dunno what to do anymore... maybe i'll consider a TECHNICS SL-DZ1200.. they're cheap at the moment. Anyone used these before and can gimme a ye or neigh ?
P_A_Sime
08-Nov-07, 05:14pm
ARGGH And i was gonna go buy a pair or CDJ800's on the weekend. Although the 800's look like they've got a bigger jog wheel... which i like.
I dunno what to do anymore... maybe i'll consider a TECHNICS SL-DZ1200.. they're cheap at the moment. Anyone used these before and can gimme a ye or neigh ?
Thatll be a big FUCK NO from me.
get the 800's
entropy1
08-Nov-07, 05:48pm
apparently you cant scratch on them like the 800s or 1000 (who scracthes on cjds anyway)
apparently you cant scratch on them like the 800s or 1000 (who scracthes on cjds anyway)
World’s First Scratch Jog Effect
A highlight and an advancement of the CDJ-400 is its scratching capability. In addition to traditional “vinyl” mode scratching, Pioneer implemented the World’s First Scratch Jog Effect. Three highlighted buttons, each assigned to a special effect, Bubble, Trans and Wah, creates unique scratching sound effects that can be enabled by the DJ on the fly. A “hold” button was also added to retain the different effects throughout the session or until its release, which can also be triggered at any point of play.
you can scratch... perhaps just not as well due to smaller platter and no pretty lights?
apparently you cant scratch on them like the 800s or 1000 (who scracthes on cjds anyway)
says who, dave clarke uses the sldz decks and he scratches a fair bit.
sparc54
08-Nov-07, 09:44pm
Hmmm not so happy to find out about these two weeks after I bought my 800s, love the features! Oh well fuck it, at least I got some. Maybe one day I'll swap one, though it'd be nice to be able to use them as midi controllers and such.
johnjay
09-Nov-07, 08:52am
seems like a better version of the cdj 200, has what the cdj200 was missing, a propper platter and vinyl control, fuk all the rest of the features
i would get it if its cheaper then the cdj 800 mk2
good bye cd's, hello memmory sticks
P_A_Sime
09-Nov-07, 09:02am
How wikkid it would be to rock up at a gig with 2 small 10gig mem sticks one day.
Hehe. You look a lot cooler rocking up with big bags of beats.
Since the USB/memory stick is the way the decks are headed I hope they incorporate a bigger LCD or touch screen into their design in the future for ease of finding files.
So glad I didn't lash out on 800s :) And can someone say HELLO Serato :)
Any eta on when it will be released, and if so, price/availability in Aus?
Cheers
EDIT - From Scratchworx
So that makes it mk3 territory :-O
Oh yes, after reading the serato forums, this will be out with native Serato support in '08
I'd probably buy it if i needed new decks (which i don't) :love: don't tempt me though
I doubt it, though you have to think about whats in store for future product releases/ development if this product does as well as i think it will.
A CDJ 1000 with these features in it would kill.
I'd say pioneer are going to midi everything.
Next year we will see a DJM800 MK2 with inbuilt soundcard and CDJ1000 MK4 with midi support
I am not sold on inbuilt sound interfaces in mixers.
Great for home setups but not the best option for installs.
Other than that, the duplication of processes and resources shits me.
Underdog
09-Nov-07, 12:15pm
looks interesting - so has anyone got the word when they might hit Oz, been eyeing up a Cd deck and it just might be the one for me
Hmmm i might actually be able to get a very good price on a pair of CDJ 1000's from JB brand new... so it seems that'll b the new option for me ! For a couple hundred more the 1000's would b much better than the 800's no ? DAMN THESE EXPENSIVE PURCHASE DECISIONS I WISH I WAS LOADED :P !
Underdog
09-Nov-07, 05:41pm
Hmmm i might actually be able to get a very good price on a pair of CDJ 1000's from JB brand new... !
how much?
Here's a good video of it:
http://www.djsounds.com/11/14/new-bpm-show-hosts-first-public-uk-sighting-of-pioneer%e2%80%99s-cdj-400/
Who said it can't scratch? That's the whole point of this release.
Looks like it has smart loops - awesome. CDJ1000 needs this...
Looks like it has smart loops - awesome. CDJ1000 needs this...
Agreed. Definately a main buying factor for me.
They look tasty :)
Pretty cool looking piece of kit, absolutely packed with features. Will be interesting to take a look at once they land here.
visually its a nice looking piece of kit...and yeah if its between teh 200 and 800 it should sell well...
i dont get the midi functionality of it though...why would you use a program to mix your cds for you...:?
visually its a nice looking piece of kit...and yeah if its between teh 200 and 800 it should sell well...
i dont get the midi functionality of it though...why would you use a program to mix your cds for you...:?
the program doesnt mix your cds... you use the cdj as a control interface with a program like serato to mix audio from your pc coz youre a lazy cunt who cbf changing cds.
Garthyboy
16-Nov-07, 01:01am
1000 Mk4 with midi interface to control serato, traktor etc
hrmmmmmm - very interesting
This is exactly what I want and need - now for them to release it
I am thinking there will be an mk4 by the end of 08
Now i just got to wait that long :(
Rob Santiago
16-Nov-07, 10:32am
Haha!
What a cool little piece of kit.
I'd grab it as a 3rd deck fo'sure!!
wonder what the price is
from a dumb point of view...this is still lower than the 1000 right?
wonder which will be better value for money...400 im guessing
archietech
16-Nov-07, 11:12pm
yep
depends what you want i guess
Looks like it has smart loops - awesome. CDJ1000 needs this...
lrn2loop
TwentyFourSeven
19-Nov-07, 10:57pm
1000mk4 is coming soon aswell
jarrardscott
19-Nov-07, 11:44pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ORsyVvU_Qo
cowabungadude
20-Nov-07, 09:58am
1000mk4 is coming soon aswell
link or gtfo :stroke:
I emailed Pioneer Australia chasing a release dates - see below:
"We are expecting them to be shipped in January 08, so by the time they make it to retailers, mid to late February 08"
So they're a little way off yet.
white lie
23-Nov-07, 10:06am
Thats still only a few months away. I would have thought with the usual delays that australia gets, we'd be looking at the middle of next year
johnjay
22-Dec-07, 05:37pm
defintely a cdj 200 replacement, i'd stil rather the 800mk2
they are up for presale on www.djwarehouse.com now! 995 :|
Matty_neal
26-Dec-07, 11:16pm
i'd prefer the 800. although it looks farking awesome.
KuRuPTeD
27-Dec-07, 11:16am
they are up for presale on www.djwarehouse.com (http://www.djwarehouse.com) now! 995 :|
They've got the denon 5500 up as well for $0.00.
Really keen to have a play on all these new pieces of kit.
that's RRP. street price will be lower 2-3 months after they hit AU.
watsakerring
03-Jan-08, 12:38pm
Found this awesome demonstration video of it yesterday, goes through pretty much every feature, and is also pretty good quality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFfoNW1QyQo
I really think i'll be getting a pair of these when they come out, haven't had my own set of decks before (can play though) and these look perfect for home use!
fuck its even got a vinyl jog mode
thats the only thing that stopped me getting a cdj200
If the price gets to about 800-1000 I will get one
I'm actually pretty impressed with it!
lrn2loop
its heaps better just being able to loop on the fly and not worry about having to correct it much and theres heaps better shit you could be doing then learning to get your marker points dead on the first time you loop a bar
I dont think many people get their loops right the first time at all and smart loop is a good thing
sure you can have a whole stack pre programed but I like the idea that you dont have to worry too much about getting your loops dead on and you can focus on mixing etc
no one rags on ableton dj's or serato dj's for using loops which are automatically created and nor should they when they are done on cd's....
littlebrains69
03-Jan-08, 09:24pm
I'm pretty impressed with it by that video above. That 1/3rd loop function on it sounds pretty wicked.
hoppuspears
04-Jan-08, 10:34am
looks amazing. way more advanced then the cdj200 and if its 750rrp i wonder how much stores will actually charge
frankinfx
14-Jan-08, 11:46pm
I like it, that Video has sold me, i'll def be in the market for one of these, maybe 2 :)
whoah...and it's MIDI mappable too.
tasty.
gamblore
15-Jan-08, 03:51pm
looks amazing. way more advanced then the cdj200 and if its 750rrp i wonder how much stores will actually charge
I heard it was going to be more around $1000. For $750 they will fly out the door! Shits on the CDJ200, maybe even better than the 800's.
I would say when i get around to replacing my 2 X 100's and my 1000 i will get 2 of these for home. They will be awesome for home or club use i reckon. USB drives and IPOD compatability FTMFW!!!!
louislogic
15-Jan-08, 08:55pm
no one rags on ableton dj's or serato dj's for using loops which are automatically created and nor should they when they are done on cd's....
thats because auto-looping officially cmae out for serato like two weeks ago...
beakers
15-Jan-08, 10:13pm
using just 2 flash drives for all your tunes is a pretty nifty idea
I'm gonna get some just for the lights, they'll make be a better dj right?
looks damn nice. def will keep an eye out when they hit the streets
one question thou: Can you use the pitch fader with USB devices?
edit: Just got the answer from the video, you can do +/- 16% with USB devices :thumb:
frankinfx
15-Jan-08, 11:49pm
Ones popped up on Ebay... Here (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PIONEER-CDJ400-CD-MP3-PLAYER-New-Aussie-Stock_W0QQitemZ120210632567QQihZ002QQcategoryZ1019 85QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
J-radical
16-Jan-08, 05:29am
They've just come out in the UK and are £50 cheaper than the 800's at £450.
havnt seen one actually to have a go as of yet.
cowabungadude
16-Jan-08, 04:13pm
I'm gonna get some just for the lights, they'll make be a better dj right?
do you even dj? :stroke:
do you even dj? :stroke:
What's that?
beakers
16-Jan-08, 04:57pm
well do you?
beakers
16-Jan-08, 05:14pm
ok then:rock:
I was only joking about the lights thing btw.. some of you didn't seem to get it.
smidgin
16-Jan-08, 06:23pm
2 stores reckon they arrive friday
paul master
23-Jan-08, 10:29am
DJ Warehouse Have stock of CDJ-400, i cant wait to check it out.
http://www.djwarehouse.com.au/cat/index.cgi/shopfront/view_product_details?category_id=&product_id=684059
johnjay
23-Jan-08, 11:03am
How wikkid it would be to rock up at a gig with 2 small 10gig mem sticks one day.
i dont now about that one
how hard would it be to find the tracks,
right now you could go with two mp3 cds filled to the brim with tracks, but noone does that
ShuffleStuff
23-Jan-08, 12:46pm
^ think you can search through directories which makes it easier, though having said that my DMP555 can do that on a disc though i never do anything other than put one track (and any remixes of it) on a disc.
/has gazillion cds/
which makes finding the tune equally hard. :meh:
johnjay
23-Jan-08, 01:19pm
im pretty sure u can search through folders and directories on the 800mk2 cdj 200 and 1000mk3
someone here will obviously verify this
and if you can, would there be any benefit of the memory stick?
actually if you play .wav there might be coz 10 gig could get you a bit but 700mb not many tracks,
kinky disco
23-Jan-08, 11:13pm
defintely a cdj 200 replacement, i'd stil rather the 800mk2
why not an mk3???????
johnjay
23-Jan-08, 11:18pm
600 price difference in 2nd hand market
A mate at work has been wanting to get into DJ'ing.
I suggested he get a pair of these and a DXM06.
He rang me last night to say he bought the last pair of CDJ400's from DJ Warehouse.
He doesnt have a mixer so he wants to come over to mine and set these bad boys up and have a go.
I will see how they perform.....
Roby_Soft
24-Jan-08, 03:51pm
Yeah man... we have to try them!!!...
They will have more in 1 month.
Here are the 400 and 800 side by side
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=LyCW84sjKVE
keen to see how they perform :)
Dee Jay Mikey
24-Jan-08, 08:15pm
A mate at work has been wanting to get into DJ'ing.
I suggested he get a pair of these and a DXM06.
He rang me last night to say he bought the last pair of CDJ400's from DJ Warehouse.
He doesnt have a mixer so he wants to come over to mine and set these bad boys up and have a go.
I will see how they perform.....
how did it go???
anyone know if they still have at least one left on demo to try out??
Roby_Soft
25-Jan-08, 11:36am
Yes, they had a couple for demo, so you can go there and try them. :rock:
Dee Jay Mikey
25-Jan-08, 12:10pm
Yes, they had a couple for demo, so you can go there and try them. :rock:
awesome, cheers:zabiela:
themysteriousbeardsley
27-Jan-08, 05:40pm
Hey if people are interested, JB HiFi just received stock codes for the cdj400's. No stores have stock yet AFAIK, but expect ticketed prices to be around the $915 mark, with cost price being significantly less. Prices could change when stock hits shelves of course, but thought y'all might like to hear this info while it's hot. :rock: :rock:
cheers :). Keen to hit up JB to see what they can do
there $899 from store dj.. seems to be the cheapest price so far.
there $899 from store dj.. seems to be the cheapest price so far.
$850 for members :-O. That's $100 cheaper then a few days ago when i checked :). DMC and DJ Warehouse still have them for $995. Dammmmmmmmmmmmmmn
ring DJ wearhouse up.... they'll usually price match or better.
Roby_Soft
27-Jan-08, 10:06pm
I bought them at 950 in DJWAREHOUSE, hope the 10 Day Price Match offer is real!!....
ring DJ wearhouse up.... they'll usually price match or better.
I beleive in giving the shop that originally offers the best price my service. I don't want what they can match, i want what they will go to first go to get the sale. If i lose $10 so be it, i'd rather reward the shop that had the guts to go to the lowest price to begin with.
yeah, i agree.... but I've bought pretty much everything from them, so i usually get good pricing from them straight up.
If you go in and ask Store Dj how much they sell em for I'm sure they'd give you a lower price then members. As I was in the other day and asked how much they sell Nuo3's for, but I already knew it was $990 last time i looked on the net and the dude said he could do better then members price if i came in to buy one which would have been around $900 so thats $100 off for just asking how much.
so thats worth a try
i guess thats the benefit of been able to work into the store with cash in hand. Bit harder when your interstate.
smidgin
28-Jan-08, 12:21pm
I bought them at 950 in DJWAREHOUSE, hope the 10 Day Price Match offer is real!!....
:stroke: i hope so too :ahoy:
paul master
28-Jan-08, 05:14pm
Store DJ is not an Authorizes reseller, and any Pioneer products purchased from store DJ are not covered by Pioneer Australia.
Check out the Images on some of the pioneer products they have 110v on the boxes.
ultim8DTM5
28-Jan-08, 05:29pm
Yeah, but is that only because their webmaster uses images from overseas websites? When I was in their shop I didn't notice any 110v labelling albeit I wasn't looking for it either...
paul master
28-Jan-08, 05:45pm
Sorry, my bad its 120v.
http://www.storedj.com.au/products/image.php?id=1708
But it seems dodgy that Store DJ uses a BOX, or some dodgy photo of the item or even like the CDJ400... No image at all.
Every other photo on there website is nicely cropped except anything Pioneer and all other websites that sell pioneer use the same image from Pioneers website.
Store DJ is not an Authorizes reseller, and any Pioneer products purchased from store DJ are not covered by Pioneer Australia.
Check out the Images on some of the pioneer products they have 110v on the boxes.
I would be careful what i said here. parallel importation is not something to throw around on forums without something more substantial than images.
i don't really care either way, but be careful what you say.
also, they don't necessarily have to buy from pioneer. no australian outlets buy direct from manufacturers like vestax A&H, crown, soundcraft etc etc etc..... they buy from distributors.
paul master
28-Jan-08, 06:21pm
Cool, happy to clear the post if need be.
Roby_Soft
29-Jan-08, 10:32am
Well, I called DJ Warehouse and they confirmed that Store DJ is not a Pioneer Authorized dealer in Australia, so they won't match their price. Have to wait and see JB Hi Fi's price or other authorized dealer.
Roby_Soft
29-Jan-08, 10:59am
Jb HI Fi doesn't have stock yet, but the price has been released: $914.00, there is also DJ Express (http://www.djxpress.com.au/products.php?category_1_id=1&category_2_id=2&product_id=2044) who IS a Pioneer authorized dealer, and have it for $925.00
:drool:
rowdworx
29-Jan-08, 12:53pm
Thinking seriously about buying a new cdj at the moment. Question is do I get a 400 or is it worth paying the extra for a 1000? Hmmmmmm
Random_Kiwi
29-Jan-08, 03:26pm
I played for over an hour on the 400 on the weekend...pretty fucking smoking little CDJ for the price! Smaller than the 800's/1000's, but bigger than the 200's. Shit loads of features...the only thing I didn't like was that the angle on the side of the platter wasn't bigger to allow for easier adjusting with the side...little too easy to miss and hit the top of the platter (still, no issue there is in CDJ mode)
Scratch effects are pretty wicked!
If I was in the market for a CDJ, pretty sure I'd save the extra $$$, and setup space, and get one of these puppies!
Store DJ absolutly provide warranty on all Pioneer gear they sell. The only difference is you need to return it to them instead of Pioneer if something goes wrong and they will cover the postage costs if you are far away. In most cases it is usual for customers to return the product to the store anyway, so there really isn't any difference. Further to this if the product breaks down within 30 days Store DJ will in most cases replace it with a brand new unit.
While Store DJ may not buy directly from Pioneer, all the Pioneer DJ gear they sell is 240 volts, has C-tick approval for use in Australia and has Australian power cords. It is 100% legitimate, nothing dodgey about it what-so-ever. DJ Warehouse are annoyed that Store DJ is selling Pioneer, so they should be, they are the biggest Pioneer dealer in the country, but their claims about Store DJ not providing warranty are unfounded.
my 2 400s just arrived :D :rock:
JB Hi HI just got stock in today - ticket price $914 but will discount further if you push them.
I just had a play around with the one they had set up on display, coupled with a CDJ-1000 & I am completely sold on this little gem of a deck. Does everything a bedroom DJ could possibly need it to, its compact, responsive, was easy to use and the loop functions are the most fun you can have with 1 finger [note: 1 finger could probably be used in much much more stimulating environments]
Roby_Soft
04-Feb-08, 04:10pm
DJ warehouse reduced the price to 920, so I went to claim my money back, and they honoured their offer, I got 60 bucks back in total.
Dee Jay Mikey
04-Feb-08, 04:27pm
I was pumped to check em out, very dissapointed though.
The platter feels like its going to bust. very wobbly, cheap.
but hey, just my 2 cents..
can't be bothered to read back through this, but i remember someone saying the lack of SD card for storing cue and loop points was a downer. Well you can't store them on a USB stick, but you can export and import your cue/loop points to/from a USB stick :thumb:
Just had a little mix on them and am impressed :). Quite a small unit from what i'm use to (CDJ1000, Denon S3000) but they sure pack a punch. The platter is really nice, def similar to the 800/1000s not the 100/200s and they are very easy to mix on.
Had CDs playing in one deck and a USB stick in the other, neither missed a beat :). Went to download the ProDJ software but its not released yet so can't comment on the PC/Midi capability until that happens. Site says end of Feb :(
dja2364
06-Feb-08, 08:07am
Can anyone answer this for me....
I am using CDJ200 now and looking to upgrade to CDJ400. I am using a G4 Powerbook.
I have used my Mac for DJing before, but only to play a set list from Itunes straight from the headphone out and into a channel on my DJM400 mixer (eg warm up tunes before people arrive).
I do not have any DJ software as such as yet. If I want to DJ without using CDs (ie off my Mac and a pair of CDJ400s), do I need to purchase Traktor or Serato or can I use Itunes (seeing that I can pitch adjust using the CDJ400)? Presumably I need to get 2 sound channels out of Mac - 1 into CDJ No. 1 and 1 into CDJ No. 2. Does this mean I have 2 USB outs from my computer??? Do I need a midi mixer (eg DJM800) or is my DJM400 Ok?
Help please!!! Thanks in advance.
KuRuPTeD
06-Feb-08, 10:19am
Itunes has pitch?
dja2364
06-Feb-08, 10:46am
Itunes has pitch?
No!!! The CDJ400 has pitch.
samwiseb
06-Feb-08, 11:10am
Can anyone answer this for me....
I am using CDJ200 now and looking to upgrade to CDJ400. I am using a G4 Powerbook.
I have used my Mac for DJing before, but only to play a set list from Itunes straight from the headphone out and into a channel on my DJM400 mixer (eg warm up tunes before people arrive).
I do not have any DJ software as such as yet. If I want to DJ without using CDs (ie off my Mac and a pair of CDJ400s), do I need to purchase Traktor or Serato or can I use Itunes (seeing that I can pitch adjust using the CDJ400)? Presumably I need to get 2 sound channels out of Mac - 1 into CDJ No. 1 and 1 into CDJ No. 2. Does this mean I have 2 USB outs from my computer??? Do I need a midi mixer (eg DJM800) or is my DJM400 Ok?
Help please!!! Thanks in advance.
You'll need some software and a external 2 channel sound card as well as a mixer. Controlling the software on your computer with your CD-J's, the sound routing out through each sound card channel into your mixer. That's one of the many possible setups anyway.
edit: (Or can you use the actual CD-J's as sound cards? That would be quite awesome if you can. In that case you would connect everything exactly the same as normal except you'd be playing tunes from your PC as opposed to CD's.
Funkedub
06-Feb-08, 11:26am
if this means there'll be some dirt cheap 800s being flogged off by ex-users i'm all up for it 8)
Random_Kiwi
06-Feb-08, 11:42am
Can anyone answer this for me....
I am using CDJ200 now and looking to upgrade to CDJ400. I am using a G4 Powerbook.
I have used my Mac for DJing before, but only to play a set list from Itunes straight from the headphone out and into a channel on my DJM400 mixer (eg warm up tunes before people arrive).
I do not have any DJ software as such as yet. If I want to DJ without using CDs (ie off my Mac and a pair of CDJ400s), do I need to purchase Traktor or Serato or can I use Itunes (seeing that I can pitch adjust using the CDJ400)? Presumably I need to get 2 sound channels out of Mac - 1 into CDJ No. 1 and 1 into CDJ No. 2. Does this mean I have 2 USB outs from my computer??? Do I need a midi mixer (eg DJM800) or is my DJM400 Ok?
Help please!!! Thanks in advance.
Or get two x 4Gb memory sticks full of tracks and whack them into the USB inputs on the 400's and leave the laptop at home!
dja2364
06-Feb-08, 11:58am
Or get two x 4Gb memory sticks full of tracks and whack them into the USB inputs on the 400's and leave the laptop at home!
No a very good visual effect bowling up to a party with a couple of memory stick cases over your shoulder.
Funkedub
06-Feb-08, 12:00pm
^^^
yea ... cos a CD wallet has a much bigger coolness factor :?
No a very good visual effect bowling up to a party with a couple of memory stick cases over your shoulder.
And a computer is any better?
KuRuPTeD
06-Feb-08, 12:50pm
No!!! The CDJ400 has pitch.
But can the cdj400 map to the pitch in itunes?
or have i just not woken up yet??:boring:
You'll need some software and a external 2 channel sound card as well as a mixer. Controlling the software on your computer with your CD-J's, the sound routing out through each sound card channel into your mixer. That's one of the many possible setups anyway.
edit: (Or can you use the actual CD-J's as sound cards? That would be quite awesome if you can. In that case you would connect everything exactly the same as normal except you'd be playing tunes from your PC as opposed to CD's.
you shouldn't need the sound card if your using the CDJ-400s. Just plug then USB cables in and then use either the Pioneer DJ software or Serato software when its released to support the CDJ400s.
I think i read in the CDJ400 manual you can just plug them up via USB and then stream music from your computer via the CDJ>mixer>speakers. Although in this format the CDJ just acts like the soundcard outputing the signal, none of its features actually work. Might try it now.
Yeap it works. SO technically you can use itunes to play music thru the CDJ400s, but none of the features of the actually CDJ will work.
beakers
06-Feb-08, 04:52pm
No a very good visual effect bowling up to a party with a couple of memory stick cases over your shoulder.
Cause everyone wants to see the dj carry his record bag in.. Not hear him play
how did the set sound?.... Yeah he looked cool.. especially carrying the record bag
holtless
06-Feb-08, 04:57pm
Cause everyone wants to see the dj carry his record bag in.. Not hear him play
how did the set sound?.... Yeah he looked cool.. especially carrying the record bag
but if a DJ doesn't look cool then why the fuck book him for?
dja2364
06-Feb-08, 10:11pm
Cause everyone wants to see the dj carry his record bag in.. Not hear him play
how did the set sound?.... Yeah he looked cool.. especially carrying the record bag
Yeah, Fucking Bang!
A DJ with a big afro once told me, it's not how you play, it's what you play and what you look like. This was while we were in a bar in St Kilda, listening to some twat that couldn't mix, but everyone going off. Uneducated crowd? Yes. But you get that in small bars on Saturday night.
franklin
07-Feb-08, 12:55pm
Do the cdj 400's have loop out adjust?
Do the cdj 400's have loop out adjust?
Yes. Same looping as on the 800s/1000s
SO technically you can use itunes to play music thru the CDJ400s, but none of the features of the actually CDJ will work.
That's true the features of the CDJ400 wont work but if you were using a real mixing program and not iTunes you could then use USB midi control and use the CDJ400 features to control the program you're using.
I know the CDJ400 can do this but the question is can you use it as a sound card AND a midi controller all at once? hmmm i wonder :stroke:
hmmmmmmm not sure. Might experiment and see what it can do
Yes. Same looping as on the 800s/1000s
The looping functions of the 800s and the 1000s are different! :lol:
shows how much i know about the 800s :P. I just looked at a picture and they looked the same. I'm talking about the hot loop orange buttons; in, out, out adjust. They look the same on all the models :meh: but alas i have never touched a 800. I know the 800s have more looping features where the 1000s have the hot cues.....
Nah, the 1000's have loop in adjust, 800's don't. But they still have the loop out adjust.
arrrrrrr got ya :thumb:. Learn something every day
dja2364
09-Feb-08, 01:13pm
Just purchased... 2 x $820. Pioneer Aust. warranty.
Roby_Soft
09-Feb-08, 01:25pm
That is a very god price... where was that?
dja2364
09-Feb-08, 01:27pm
DJ Warehouse. Quoted price too. Didn;t haggle, just handed over the cash.
paul master
09-Feb-08, 04:46pm
as always the longer you wait the cheaper it gets.
Roby_Soft
12-Feb-08, 10:14am
DJ Warehouse. Quoted price too. Didn;t haggle, just handed over the cash.
You meant 820 or 920? This is 100 dollars discount from the advertised price!!...Crazy :crazy:
Sorry boys, I have been so busy I havent even had a chance to hook up with my mate and do a review.
Re: the price. A mate at work has a mate that is a store manager for JB Hifi. He will sell them to him at $650 each which I believe is cost price.
So there is plenty of room to move if you are a good haggler...
$650??? OMG I bought my units from a distributor and paid more than that cost! That is CHHHHHEEEEAAAAPPPPPPP
Where do I sign?
samwiseb
12-Feb-08, 03:00pm
I'm definately getting a pair of these and a Korg KM-202 when I can afford
nickpivce
14-Feb-08, 12:13am
650 that is a bit cheap for the new cdjs....
Roby_Soft
14-Feb-08, 08:49am
650 that is a bit cheap for the new cdjs....
That is cost price for retailers.
Dee Jay Mikey
15-Feb-08, 02:10pm
Sorry boys, I have been so busy I havent even had a chance to hook up with my mate and do a review.
Re: the price. A mate at work has a mate that is a store manager for JB Hifi. He will sell them to him at $650 each which I believe is cost price.
So there is plenty of room to move if you are a good haggler...
Can you find out whats cost on a dmj 800? :zabiela:
Eros le Tardfack
15-Feb-08, 03:36pm
does anyone know when the CDJ1000MK4 is due out?
I would say this time next year at the earliest. As pointed out numerous times in this thread, any smart business would not release a superior product until the current model has had enough time to do well in the market.
paul master
15-Feb-08, 04:19pm
Next year 4sure if that, but then why change something thats selling so well. I think you might be waiting a while if you were thinking of getting one.
Its all talk at the moment. Only time will tell.
why change something thats selling so well.
Mmmm, personally I don't agree with this. If you don't progress you become stagnant and stale and someone else will take your future profits.
Eros le Tardfack
15-Feb-08, 06:57pm
Next year 4sure if that, but then why change something thats selling so well. I think you might be waiting a while if you were thinking of getting one.
Its all talk at the moment. Only time will tell.
well I just bought a MK3 from StoreDJ for $1529 shipped.
that will keep me entertained for a while.
paul master
16-Feb-08, 01:57pm
Mmmm, personally I don't agree with this. If you don't progress you become stagnant and stale and someone else will take your future profits.
I think we all know that. ;)
watsakerring
17-Feb-08, 12:24am
Went into DJ warehouse today to have a play around with one of these, was VERY impressed!
the platter is awesome, didn't find the sides a problem at all (but i tune with my thumb anyway, so it doesn't matter how exposed it is i suppose)
effects are great as well.
will definitly be getting a couple now, probably in around a month or so.
Random_Kiwi
17-Feb-08, 09:55am
Mmmm, personally I don't agree with this. If you don't progress you become stagnant and stale and someone else will take your future profits.
Like the technics 1200, eh?
redmond_herring
19-Feb-08, 08:50pm
I rate these very highly.... yes I know I sell them and all but they really are the best allround player Pioneer (or anyone) as done - especially when you consider the price!
Any news on 200's getting cheaper with the release of the 400?
redmond_herring
19-Feb-08, 10:06pm
Any news on 200's getting cheaper with the release of the 400?
unfortuneately 200's wholesale didn't drop much when the 400 came out - whilst the price on the 400 is very reasonable, the 200 does seem to be a little high in comparison.
Unless Pioneer drop the price of the 200 I can't see it dropping from its usual $600-720 ish
damn, knowing my luck, if they do drop it it will be straight after i buy whatever paid of cdjs i end up buying....
Like the technics 1200, eh?
Highly irrelevant in this instance.
I finally had a play on these last night.
I think they are great for what they are. The USB is convenient, the loop and effects are simple. Not too keen on the roll as compared to the roll on the DJM800. On the DJM800 you can adjust the speed of the roll, on the CDJ400 you cant. Dont quote me on this as it may but I just havent worked it out.
As far as a scratching deck, its not for me. The platter is too small and its hard to get any sort of patterns going. Also, the fact that the platter is shiny, slightly slippery and needs pressure to activate means that when you start rubbing back and forth to scratch, your fingers slide and get out of position or completely off the jog dial.
Music_Pirate
22-Feb-08, 12:35pm
Anyone used these decks with Serato yet?
Cheers
dja2364
22-Feb-08, 12:47pm
Yes. I am using witth Serato. I haven't worked out the MIDI capabilities yet. According to Serato forum, support for the DJM400 not available yet. At this stage, using Serato with them is no different than using Serato with DJM200s (which is not what I was told when I purchased). Anyway, when this support (which I assume will be in the form of a saved set of MIDI assignments) comes out, I will know better what is going on.
Yeah in regards to MIDI niether Serato or the Pioneer DJS software to support them is out. I managed to hook mine up to NI Traktor DJ Studio and the MIDI function works, just not my cup of tea as none of the track info is displayed on the CDJs. Will wait for the native support in DJS and Serato to test them out. Till then its USB sticks :)
dja2364
22-Feb-08, 04:00pm
http://www.scratchlive.net/forum/discussion/?discussion_id=59785#new
http://www.scratchlive.net/forum/discussion/?discussion_id=59785#new
first post :O
as at 1pm today jbhifi miranda were selling cdj400s for $660 each. none currently in stock but a eta of Friday at latest, VERY CHEAP :rock: and the only reason i know is because having read a post earlier regarding there cost prices, i rang up and had a chat, asked for the best deal they can do, and thats what they spat out, so yeah, 2 cdj400s for $1320. im happy.
cheers.
mick
CHOPPY_INDAHOUSE
24-Feb-08, 08:49pm
so bascial for an extra 150 bucks i could have got my self brand new 400s instead of second hand 200s but that was like 10 mounths ago
first post :O
as at 1pm today jbhifi miranda were selling cdj400s for $660 each. none currently in stock but a eta of Friday at latest, VERY CHEAP :rock: and the only reason i know is because having read a post earlier regarding there cost prices, i rang up and had a chat, asked for the best deal they can do, and thats what they spat out, so yeah, 2 cdj400s for $1320. im happy.
cheers.
mick
That is below the cost of most dealers ($700) and I would say the only reason JB are offering that deal is because the end of the month is nearing and they are chasing a turnover target. I would like to see how other people go at JB's but I seriously don't think that price will be easily attainable by the masses.
dja2364
24-Feb-08, 10:09pm
That is below the cost of most dealers ($700) and I would say the only reason JB are offering that deal is because the end of the month is nearing and they are chasing a turnover target. I would like to see how other people go at JB's but I seriously don't think that price will be easily attainable by the masses.
Wrong. Used to work in the electrical retail industry, and that does not happen. Why would you sell something for less than you bought it for? You go into business to make money, not throw it away. BTW, purchased my 400s via a friend at JB for 660 each. You may not get the service (by that I mean a salesman that can give you a full on demo of all their DJ equipment), but you get a good price at JB.
Wrong. Used to work in the electrical retail industry, and that does not happen. Why would you sell something for less than you bought it for? You go into business to make money, not throw it away. BTW, purchased my 400s via a friend at JB for 660 each. You may not get the service (by that I mean a salesman that can give you a full on demo of all their DJ equipment), but you get a good price at JB.
JB work off two sales targets, turnover and GP. If in a given month they are up on GP but turnover is low then they will sell gear at or below cost so that they reach their turnover target. This is how it was explained to me by someone who used to manage a JB's. Maybe they don't do this anymore or perhaps I totally misheard him - i could be wrong.
either way, $660 is a great price. and the cdj200s' are at a cost of $520 or $540, so the extra is definately worth it for the 400s'
Music_Pirate
25-Feb-08, 02:11pm
Yes. I am using witth Serato. I haven't worked out the MIDI capabilities yet. According to Serato forum, support for the DJM400 not available yet. At this stage, using Serato with them is no different than using Serato with DJM200s (which is not what I was told when I purchased). Anyway, when this support (which I assume will be in the form of a saved set of MIDI assignments) comes out, I will know better what is going on.
Thanks for the reply :)
I may buy a pair, as I like the idea of being able to assign the cue button on the decks to the first cue point set in Serato (which is possibly i believe?) :)
dja2364
25-Feb-08, 10:02pm
Yes. I am using witth Serato. I haven't worked out the MIDI capabilities yet. According to Serato forum, support for the DJM400 not available yet. At this stage, using Serato with them is no different than using Serato with DJM200s (which is not what I was told when I purchased). Anyway, when this support (which I assume will be in the form of a saved set of MIDI assignments) comes out, I will know better what is going on.
That was meant to say CDJ400 and CDJ200 and not DJM 400 and DJM200... .
just got mine from a mate that works at JB as well
$700 each plus a 6 pack of johnnie walker
i started up using traktor and a bcd-3000
love having to learn how to beatmatch with just my ears now :) haha
walkingdisaster
27-Feb-08, 12:15pm
^^
welcome to being a dj :thumb:
haha yeah there ain't no sync button on these babies :P
ah i was smart enough to stay clear of the sync button, never knew what beat it would sync too....but how well it analizes the tracks bpm sure makes you lazy haha
pretty cool how theyre midi mappable so they can control traktor etc too....will have to give it a shot one day, going to wait until im mixing on cd's reeeaaally well first but...something i needed to learn!
i've hooked mine up to traktor, didn't do much for me. I just downloaded a file which had the midi mappings already set so maybe it was that but as said previously once the native support is launched in DJS and Serato i'll be keen to try again :).
wow... so everyone is getting them at around the high $600 mark... pple just got mates that work there or anyone try and 'ask' for such a price?
im keen on buying some 2nd hand cdj's (200's prob)... but looking at this price do you reckon it would be better saving up and getting some of these :O
would a 200 and a 400 be a bad set up for a beginner? (as in opposed to having 2 x 200's or 2 x 400's)
sorry for going off topic !
2x 400s just enables you to play from more sources, if you already have a heap of cd's then sure, 1x200 1x400 would be sweet.
400s are all about the rollback though :rock:
would def go the extra $$$ and get 2 400's if i were you
No nescissary though. If all you can afford is one, then get that and you could upgrade in the future. You don't have to have matching models, brands, etc. to play a few tunes.
paul_mechanic
04-Mar-08, 12:58pm
not bad but still perfer 1000s
onpoint
04-Mar-08, 01:09pm
might have to look at getting some of these down the track, i'm only a beginner (2 months) learning on tech's... eventually i want to add some cd player to my set up, would I be best to get serato first before adding some cd players? thoughts?
Depends if you want Serato. I don't see the fascination at all. I find that CDJ's are much easier to mix on and give you much more creative freedom than wax. If I was to go down this path I wouldn't even use Serato, it seems so basic, at least Tracktor has some features, and I would use control CDJ's instead of vinyl. The only advantage I can see to this for me would be that I wouldn't have to burn CD's.
But, learn how to play on wax for sure, good idea, then you can branch out to CDJ's as well after maybe a year. Just wait till things start getting stale and you can breath new life into you DJing by crossing over the CDJ's as well.
yeah def learn on 12" before you take on CDJs
onpoint
05-Mar-08, 03:04pm
yeah cheers guys,
That was my plan learn as much on the 12" as i can then incorporate some cdjs into the mix, and i might look at the cdjs before serato as i might like the use of the cdjs along with my techs more than serato just using songs from my comp but being the same as before...
either way thats many months down the track so not to worry about it now.
spewingupknives
08-Mar-08, 01:00pm
I think im goin to get a 400 aswell,dad found a cheap one over in singapore for $240!
I think im goin to get a 400 aswell,dad found a cheap one over in singapore for $240!
fakes?
nickpivce
12-Mar-08, 11:01pm
m nice im after a 400
spewingupknives
15-Mar-08, 07:17pm
fakes?
Hopefully not, i didnt know they made fakes?
just ordered two 400s from jb hifi in wollongong (they don't stock dj gear, it's being sent from parramatta), $700 each. Pretty happy with that considering I was about to outlay nearly $900 each for them!
Meant to arrive on wednesday or thursday... I hope they get in before the long weekend!
I just ordered two 400s from JB-hifi Canberra City for $650. It was cost price, I did not know a manager or anything they were just desperate to make sales targets on the Sunday of a bad week for sales.
watsakerring
17-Mar-08, 10:30am
just ordered two 400s from jb hifi in wollongong (they don't stock dj gear, it's being sent from parramatta), $700 each. Pretty happy with that considering I was about to outlay nearly $900 each for them!
Meant to arrive on wednesday or thursday... I hope they get in before the long weekend!
if you had got them for $750 each, you could have got the 10% cashback offer from pioneer (if you spend $1500 or more at a certified retailer) and ended up spending $1350.
more is less :ninja:
so its best to ring up and enquire on a sunday?8)
im going to get a 200 first, but thinking of ringing up and seeing what price they can give and if its worth just getting the 400 straight up
hoppuspears
17-Mar-08, 01:05pm
Dont bother with a 200 pay the little bit extra and get a 400! so worth it
Mad Rooster
17-Mar-08, 02:55pm
so its best to ring up and enquire on a sunday?8)
im going to get a 200 first, but thinking of ringing up and seeing what price they can give and if its worth just getting the 400 straight up
Forget the 200. I upgraded from 200s to 400s. No way I could go back. I suppose that's like everything in life when you upgrade. Except for girlfriends.
so its best to ring up and enquire on a sunday?8)
Yes. Sundays are best, especially if they've had a bad week. The last Sunday of the month may be even better if they work on monthly sales targets as well.
louislogic
17-Mar-08, 08:11pm
Are these CD players midi mappable?
Will learning to use the 400 mean that I will also be able to use/be more familiar with a 1000 (seeing as how ive never used either?)
been trying to save up and get a 1000 as a third deck to mainly use with loops and vocals, this seems like it could be a good option (at less than half the price). at the moment im on 1200's + serato.
its only a feasible option if it will help me learn to mix on CDJ1000's so that if necessary I could use a CDJ in case of missing turntables/dodgey turntables..
can you assign some of the midi mappable buttons on the CDJ400 to functions not relating to the CDJ itself, for example, could I use a button on the CDJ400 to control part of my serato?
yeah, only problem is that i reallllllllly want to get my first cdj and getting a 400 instead of a 200 means waiting another paycheck D:
Action Jackson
17-Mar-08, 08:13pm
yeah, only problem is that i reallllllllly want to get my first cdj and getting a 400 instead of a 200 means waiting another paycheck D:
Good things come to those who wait
callan_01
17-Mar-08, 09:43pm
OK i'm in a bit of a situation and would love some input from you guys..
I'm looking to buy a pair of 400s. In about 3 months I am leaving Australia to travel for around a year. I currently have stanton c3.14s. I want to get Pioneer due to them being the industry standard and the 400s are a much better size to travel with. I'm hoping to get a few gigs on my travels.
Now for the question.... Do i buy Australian or US cdj400s? My stantons are from the US and I am sick of using the transformers, they are heavy and a hassle to cart around. It would probably work out cheaper buying them in Australia anyway, after comparing US ebay to the prices everyone is paying from JB..
Will the Australian decks work in the US.. Are their suitable transformers?
smidgin
17-Mar-08, 10:51pm
OK i'm in a bit of a situation and would love some input from you guys..
I'm looking to buy a pair of 400s. In about 3 months I am leaving Australia to travel for around a year. I currently have stanton c3.14s. I want to get Pioneer due to them being the industry standard and the 400s are a much better size to travel with. I'm hoping to get a few gigs on my travels.
Now for the question.... Do i buy Australian or US cdj400s? My stantons are from the US and I am sick of using the transformers, they are heavy and a hassle to cart around. It would probably work out cheaper buying them in Australia anyway, after comparing US ebay to the prices everyone is paying from JB..
Will the Australian decks work in the US.. Are their suitable transformers?
i'd just buy american while over there, that way you have a warranty, dont need a transformer, sell before you come home. too easy right?
are you in US for the entire year?
imagine if the decks don't survive the international flight over? oh the tears...
and lets not forget about luggage weight restrictions.. how much does that cost if your over?
I'm tossing up between a 400 and a 1000.
Mainly use 1000's in the clubs but does the 400 have anything significant over the 1000s?
i'd just buy american while over there, that way you have a warranty, dont need a transformer, sell before you come home. too easy right?
are you in US for the entire year?
imagine if the decks don't survive the international flight over? oh the tears...
and lets not forget about luggage weight restrictions.. how much does that cost if your over?
x2
Are these CD players midi mappable?
Will learning to use the 400 mean that I will also be able to use/be more familiar with a 1000 (seeing as how ive never used either?)
been trying to save up and get a 1000 as a third deck to mainly use with loops and vocals, this seems like it could be a good option (at less than half the price). at the moment im on 1200's + serato.
its only a feasible option if it will help me learn to mix on CDJ1000's so that if necessary I could use a CDJ in case of missing turntables/dodgey turntables..
can you assign some of the midi mappable buttons on the CDJ400 to functions not relating to the CDJ itself, for example, could I use a button on the CDJ400 to control part of my serato?
yes they are midi mappable.
You should be able to move to the 1000's pretty easy after using a 400 and vice versa. Main difference is the size of the jog wheel.
the next version of Serato will have native support for the CDJ400 which means plug it in to your computer and all the buttons should do exactly what they should do with a normal cd in serato and all the track info will be displayed on the unit ie. time remaining etc
yeah, only problem is that i reallllllllly want to get my first cdj and getting a 400 instead of a 200 means waiting another paycheck D:
def wait, you'll be kicking yourself if you get a 200 and then go for a 400 later down the track and realise what a waste the 200 was.
I'm tossing up between a 400 and a 1000.
Mainly use 1000's in the clubs but does the 400 have anything significant over the 1000s?
400 has USB input and is MIDI mappable. Whether they are significant to you is another question. Otherwise not much between them. 1000s are a lot more solid, jog wheel is bigger etc but i havn't found that a problem on the 400s
yes they are midi mappable.
You should be able to move to the 1000's pretty easy after using a 400 and vice versa. Main difference is the size of the jog wheel.
the next version of Serato will have native support for the CDJ400 which means plug it in to your computer and all the buttons should do exactly what they should do with a normal cd in serato and all the track info will be displayed on the unit ie. time remaining etc
holy crap that's pretty sweet and innovative.
I love the look and feel of the 1000's
But it sounds like the 400's do just as well and have newer and better features for a Digital/CD Dj.
either the 1000's for 1395 or the 400's for about $500 bucks less!
hmmmmmmmmmmm such a hard choice.
I want mainly the effects and loops etc.
Need to practice with different effects and loops in my mixes.
but both look to have the same effects.
CDJ1000s have hot cues. CDJ400s have a few different effects.
just watched short video on the 400's
they have the loop slicer on it!
simple but awesome effect!
meh i've hardly touched the loop slice since i've had mine. Doesn't really do much for my style of music. Can understand its potential for slower genres but hardcore it sounds shit
Music_Pirate
18-Mar-08, 09:29pm
If I were to buy CDJ400's and learn to beatmatch fluently on them...will it be a flawless transition to a 1000 mk3?
And any idea when it will be Serato Compatible?
Cheers
callan_01
18-Mar-08, 09:47pm
i'd just buy american while over there, that way you have a warranty, dont need a transformer, sell before you come home. too easy right?
are you in US for the entire year?
imagine if the decks don't survive the international flight over? oh the tears...
and lets not forget about luggage weight restrictions.. how much does that cost if your over?
Oh my mother works for Qantas, so flights and excess baggage is not a problem. They seem to be cheaper over here though? My current decks have survived domestic flights wrapped in clothes inside a suitcase..
But I do see your point! Does anyone else have any input?
If I were to buy CDJ400's and learn to beatmatch fluently on them...will it be a flawless transition to a 1000 mk3?
And any idea when it will be Serato Compatible?
Cheers
as said previously you 'should' be able to make the transition with your eyes closed. the only difference is the platter size and going from small to large shouldn't be a piss of piss
if you had got them for $750 each, you could have got the 10% cashback offer from pioneer (if you spend $1500 or more at a certified retailer) and ended up spending $1350.
more is less :ninja:
Of course I realised this the next day... oh well :)
Right now I just want them to arrive so I can start having a go! I bought my mixer on the weekend, Ecler Nuo 2, and it's screaming for a CDJ either side.
I've already got a long list of new tracks and classics from over the years in my beatport crate just waiting to be dowloaded as soon as I get the decks home.
I decided on a 1000 instead.
Because they've been out longer, and price have dropped over the years.
by the time i want the 400, it would have dropped a bit too.
tweetyfish
19-Mar-08, 09:37pm
For anyone that has used the 400 so far, what's the tempo slider like compared to the 200? The 2 things that shat me the most about the 200 was the jog dial and the tempo slider being really sensitive and unstable...if it's the same deal with the 400, I think I'll pass, not collect $200 and go straight to the 1000.
callan_01
24-Mar-08, 11:56am
Any more input guys?
Pioneer finally have released their DJS software with CDJ-400 support. I downloaded my free copy last night and hooked up one of my units. All worked pretty well once i configured the soundcard properly. Everything on the CDJ worked except the effects and loop divider. Didn't have a mix but first impressions were pretty good :). The interface ain't anything to write home about but the fact is it does what its suppose to do so that is the main thing. Will have a mix using it this arvo and see how it goes.
mad its like a 200 and 1000 put together
hoppuspears
01-Apr-08, 09:45pm
If I were to buy CDJ400's and learn to beatmatch fluently on them...will it be a flawless transition to a 1000 mk3?
And any idea when it will be Serato Compatible?
Cheers
You'll be fine mate.. I used c314's for ages. Then at a show i had to use 1000's. Jumped on them worked out that there WAY more sensitve (jog wheel) and it was fine. If i was gunna upgrade i would probably grab these or 800's
Got my 400s today (after some delay). Love them.
paul master
18-Apr-08, 11:58am
DJ Warehouse are having a Pioneer Product Launch on the DJM700 and CDJ400 in Melbourne and Sydney, it will be good to check out these new members of Pioneer Family.
DJ Warehouse Sydney on Wednesday April 23rd, 6:30-7:30pm.
DJ Warehouse Melbourne on Wednesday April 30th, 6:30-7:30pm.
lowbass
18-Apr-08, 11:48pm
Could you do the same but transfer the data via a card reader/ writer?
I was told USB stick only - should have been made to control an external hard drive or anything USB. And yes an SD slot would of been handy. But why has this taken so long to come out - conveniently not too long after the 1000mkIII and 800mkII? Ca-ching!
insomnia
19-Apr-08, 12:32am
I was told USB stick only - should have been made to control an external hard drive or anything USB. And yes an SD slot would of been handy. But why has this taken so long to come out - conveniently not too long after the 1000mkIII and 800mkII? Ca-ching!
what are you talking about... you can use a hard disk or an iPod or anything usb really! though the larger then source the longer it takes to load up the table of contents
lowbass
19-Apr-08, 09:04am
what are you talking about... you can use a hard disk or an iPod or anything usb really! though the larger then source the longer it takes to load up the table of contents
Dude at JB said USB stick only......maybe thats just for the USB port on top and the ext hard drive plugs into the square USB port on the back? Dunno just going off what I've heard. Either way good to see CD mixers finally catching up to PCs.
insomnia
19-Apr-08, 12:15pm
He is wrong! I have two right next to me and there is a hard disk plugged into one. (not in the back, that is the pc port for midi control usage)
paul master
19-Apr-08, 03:57pm
Dude at JB said USB stick only......maybe thats just for the USB port on top and the ext hard drive plugs into the square USB port on the back? Dunno just going off what I've heard. Either way good to see CD mixers finally catching up to PCs.
Thats JB for ya, anything for a sale.
yeah you can def use external hard drives & ipods etc in the USB port on the top. As mentioned about the bigger the volume the longer it takes to read all the contents in so prob not wise to plug a 500GB drive full of music in :P
I had a play with the 400's the other day - great idea by pioneer with all the looping functions and the USB add-on. But does anyone find that it is more of a toy then something to be taken as a serious CDJ or considered a club-worthy
Mad Rooster
20-Apr-08, 12:03pm
^^ no.
J-radical
23-Apr-08, 03:22am
was sold when looking at them on youtube, but in reality the platter is a big let down, very very cheap feel, the side moved up and down alot, it just felt...we'll shit really. The rest was impressive but yeah the platter is naff. Very much a bedroom banger.
bobshled
25-Apr-08, 03:40pm
Newbie DJ wanting to get in.
Just wondering if there is a sampling feature like in the Stanton C.314?
Would one choose 400s over C.314s?
I had a play with the 400's the other day - great idea by pioneer with all the looping functions and the USB add-on. But does anyone find that it is more of a toy then something to be taken as a serious CDJ or considered a club-worthy
Hell no although as long as the CDJ1000 is around then thats what will be in the clubs. Nevertheless i've had more fun mixing with my 400's then my previous denon S3000s so i wouldn't change them for the world. Sure the platter isan't as solid as the 1000s but i'm yet to find that a issue.
I would have no hesitations having them in a venue.
Shit CDJ100's and rack mount Denons were found every where before the CDJ1000.
hoppuspears
27-Apr-08, 01:04pm
There deffintly club worthy. had a play of them the other day. There made by pionner so they work really well.
Currently running one at the moment with my 2 1000's.. basically so I can play my stored music. Good effects & easy to use. There design is more for the bedroom dj, but there are a couple of features that would be nice to see on the high-end cdj's.
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