for the producers who use logic on a pc

[hpstekno]

tsk tsk tsk this is how much emagic loves you..........

Apple Acquires Emagic
July 1st 2002

CUPERTINO, California and HAMBURG, Germany -- July 1, 2002 --
Apple today announced it has acquired Emagic, a leading provider of professional software solutions for computer based music production. Emagic's most popular product, Logic, is actively used by over 200,000 musicians around the world. Emagic will operate as a wholly owned division of Apple.

"Emagic has set the industry standard for professional music creation and production," said Sina Tamaddon, Apple's senior vice president of Applications. "We're very excited to have the Emagic team join Apple and create more amazing products for musicians."

Macintosh-based products account for over 65 percent of Emagic's current revenues. Emagic's Windows-based product offerings will be discontinued on September 30, 2002.

Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the Macintosh. Apple is committed to bringing the best personal computing experience to students, educators, creative professionals and consumers around the world through its innovative hardware, software and Internet offerings.


hahahahahahah should've waited for cubase SX it ****s on logic 100x over :lol:

sorry `bout the childish behavior but i couldn't resist

[redmond_herring]

thats pretty full on.

i know a few pretty serious producers (ie: Phil K ) who love their Logic, and love it on PC as they also love Native Instruments products.



As you say, what a shame Cubase is actually better. :-)

[hpstekno]

yeah me senses NI getting into rtas or tdm now but long live vst

[Tax Invoice]

Had a play on Cubase SX last night. Looks cool, but is it any better than Vers.5? Couldnt see much advantage. Means having to learn a new prog all over again!
Sucked in Logic users!
Mind you, I'd be very upset if Microsoft bought out Steinberg!
-Or Propellorheads for that matter.
X(

[kechuan]

yeah , thats pretty ****ed!

really shows how much emagic care about their users.

I'm glad i'm using cubase on pc - oh, and luckily Phil has moved to an iBook(or whatever those mac laptops are called) just in time!

[phunkdust]

who would use logic on a PC anyway? :lol:

cubase is da bomb.

and I love my native instruments vst... check em out if you havent done so already

Fm7
Pro-52
Pro-53
Reaktor
Absynth
B4 Tonewheels

[hpstekno]

SX handels audio and midi way better than 5.1 and automation is brilliant it really makes logic look like a toy
it's based on Nuendo steinbergs flagship seq yeah ya gotta basically learn it again .. i've played with nuendo quite a bit so it's a relativly easy transsition to SX but there are quite a few differences from 5.1 to SX

[Goosos]

You'd be surprised how many people use logic on PC. If you check out the logic users group a lot of people used PC in their studio and G4 ibook's on the road or vice versa.

Logic was one of the last true cross platform sequencers. It also meant collaborations with musicians who don't have as much money as fulltime producers have to afford the hardware required on MAC to achieve relatively the same performance.

In melbourne, Jayse from Nubreed, Phil K, Daniel Mangan, Luke Chable, Keltec, Snapester (session muso for christine anu amongst other solo works), Brewster B and probably many others are just a few of the up and coming or professional producers that use Logic on PC that I know of.

Agreed, Phil now has an iBook but there are many software features available on the PC that will no longer provide the level of integration that was previously possible.

To say that 35% of all logic users, which equates to over 70,000 users is not many in comparison to the 200,000, but nevertheless it is significant.

In 2 days, the logic users group has received over 1000 emails (for which 2200 per month are normally reported) from both Mac and PC users, speculating on what the future holds. Imagine, if emagic can make such an aggressive move for its PC userbase, imagine what the now 'public shareholders' are capable of dictating to Apple for the Logic Mac platform.

Anyways there are lots of theories, however, it has definately shaken up the pro audio production market and we will not see the end result for another 6 months or so... so hold on to your seat belts ladies and gents, this is going to be one trippy ride!

Oh - and with any merger or acquisition, development, morale and people hirings will be heavily downgraded until the dust settles, so don't expect the development for MAC platform to keep or fasten its pace anytime within the next 3 months.

[phunkdust]

of course the use of logic on the PC is widespread, but it's not as common as MAC setups... you'll find that all the big guys have mac setups running logic and protools rigs...

in my experience, logic on pc hasnt had the same stability or power that i could squeeze from a mac. something about microsoft and dedicated processors? :P

[Tax Invoice]

can someone please explain why I should be giving f uck what phil k uses!?!?!?

I juz don geddit!

[hpstekno]

:lol: tax invoice

[thebrownhornet]

If Mac bought Logic, then im switching from cubase - which i have been using for 4 years. I go where steve jobs goes!
INtersting thought - perhaps this will be the path to the standardising of hardware. Dare we hope for a puter as wonnerful as the mac, with the number crunching abilities and inexpense of a PC?

ps taxinvoice - explanation of why you might give a **** what phil k uses.
1 - you read this post, so one must assume you have an interest in music software.
2 - point one implies you have an interest in writing music.
3 - phil k is a releasing australian artsist

i.e. - someone to look up to in terms of getting out there and doping what we all want to do.

OR

your just a tall poppy syndrome head with too much time on your hands, and a pseudonym behind which to spread **** around??:lol: :lol: :lol:

pps - 65% of logic users run macs

[Tax Invoice]

Originally posted by thebrownhornet

ps taxinvoice - explanation of why you might give a **** what phil k uses.
1 - you read this post, so one must assume you have an interest in music software.
2 - point one implies you have an interest in writing music.
3 - phil k is a releasing australian artsist

i.e. - someone to look up to in terms of getting out there and doping what we all want to do.

OR

your just a tall poppy syndrome head with too much time on your hands, and a pseudonym behind which to spread **** around??:lol: :lol: :lol:

pps - 65% of logic users run macs

Sorry, but you missed my point. I do look up to many Aust artists and you're correct, I am also one. I just wondered why Phil K was the one of many???

Not tall poppy syndrome.

[hpstekno]

hornet yes maybe but at what cost to the small time user or existing pc user???? yes i agree macs are pretty much standardised but that reflects in the cost of say a g4 and a p4

the beauty of the way things are at the moment for a 'relatively' small outlay anyone can make professional sounding tunes
with that model of standardisation this is negated .
and i wonder if emagic will scrap asio and vst and go for dedicated tdm or rtas on mac only will be interesting aswell 20k for a logic/mac system anyone????????

watch steinberg get an influx of customers to sx they are allready offering crossgrade deals
if apple and emagic think that all existing pc users will dump pc's to buy into the mac idea i think they're in for a shock

[thebrownhornet]

But the previous owner of emagic hates PC! i.e. i think they are happy working with a 65% market share....
i also heard that they might incorporate logic software right into the Macs audio engine.
hmmmm,
maybe mac and pc will bond into a beautiful new computer, that doesnt cost an arm and a leg?

[hpstekno]

yes in a perfect world ..in a perfect world :lol:

[digitalboy2020]

oh well, they're only using the same tactics that gates et al @ micro$oft have been using for the last couple of decades. doesn't worry me - i've got no plans to trade my G4 for anything.

[thebrownhornet]

hmmm, i dunno if i'd call em the same tactics.
sides, microsoft owns apple anyway, or sort of.
they dont give a **** so long as they can make software.
I had been resisting the move to logic, but heaps of people seem to be changing over, and apparently, it does not crash as often as cubase....?thoughts>>>

[Sean]

this is pretty ****. i know a few people who use logic on pc's. ive never really moved passed reason's onboard sequencer but am now starting to explore avenues for incorporating other instruments etc. what really tickles me fancy is sonar 2.0 looks very decent.

[hpstekno]

it depends on how you set ur system up hornet weather it's a dedicated daw or a general pc cubase rarely crashes for me it quick easy and hasstle free ...
logic on th other hand is very quirky and alot harder to set up the learning curve is alot steeper just my opinion

stick to what ya know and don't believe the hype

i had a friend try and sell me logic (as a motive to switch)
i showed him things that cubase could do that logic couldn't do he now writes with cubase
but it's all how your accustomed to working ,how you feel comfortable and most creative with.
logic does a lot of good **** but it doesn't feel right to me i'm used to doen **** one way and i get a lot more creativity flowing doing things the way i know how

[TECHiONE]

Ahhh.. the joy of a platform war... It seems the Mac vs PC, and Emagic Logic vs Steinberg Cubase wars have merged with this (bomb shell) announcement, not good!

I'm a Cubase, PC user, not keen on switching to Mac just so I can use Logic. I guess all it means is the PC version of Logic will stay around version 5-ish, and the Mac version will keep being developed.

I have been toying with the idea of switching to Logic, on PC, but I keep coming back to Cubase as it's the platform I've always used. I'm still only just getting into the whole 'software/audio' way of making music, much different to the MIDI sequencing of external gear way I've always used.

Andreas Kauffelt has always used Logic on PC, he's not too happy about having to switch to Mac.