Drinks in the DJ Booth.

[funkyant]

I repair technics and pioneer gear from a lot of clubs around Sydney.

This is kind of a public service announcement.

This month I've repaired 18 (yes 18 ) items with drink spill damage JUST OUT OF IVY ALONE. Yesterday I was called to stonewall because an SL-1200 had 'stopped working'. I picked up the turntable , and about a schooner worth of bourbon and coke poured out all down my work pants :mad:
I've replaced a destroyed jog wheel on a CDJ1000, about 5 snapped channel faders on DJM800's and replaced a lot of lost fader caps, knobs, etc.

How do you lose a fader cap? If it does come off, wouldn't you just pick it up and put it back on?

I've also swapped out 3 blown booth monitors this month.

I clean sticky drink glass rings off the platters of almost every turntable I service.

Why do some DJ's have zero respect for the gear in clubs? Would you do this to your gear at home (obviously not). I mean, it does keep me in a job, but I just don't understand the mentality of some DJ's.

These repair costs come out of the clubs budget, which ultimately means less pay for DJ's, less promotional budget, and not disregarding the fact that clubs are not going to buy new gear because a) they spend all their money on repairs, and b) the current gear gets treated like shit.

These careless DJ's are just shooting themselves in the foot.

On a side note for anyone that plays at The Laundry, I fully serviced all 10 CDJ's there this week and they are all top notch now (no thanks to whomever spilt the drink into the loop in button on the MKIII in the garden bar).


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[Lil Lizard]

Some people have no respect. I would also like to know how you lose a fader cap...

[BoostFM]

ROFL... i read the thread title and it reminded me of a Live Houseparty broadcast we had running on my net radio station from somewhere in Chicargo in the US... The beats were pumping along nicely and then suddenly it goes quiet and the DJ cuts sick on the air about someone spilling a beer on his gear in the booth lol!!!

Anyways after a minute of him cuttin sick, the music comes back on and he finishes the song then you hear him appologise and state that it was his beer that was spilt lol.

But i know what ya mean about respect for the gear, i worked at Berlin Lounge in surfers for a while and the way their stuff was treated was just a joke...

[funkyant]

I have a sneaky suspicion that 'lost' fader caps are actually nicked to replace lost or broken ones at home.

[johnjay]

and wankers that put there 50000 cd walet on tonearms

fkn cock suckers

you have a 45 minute set, why do you need 500 cds with 500000 mp3's on each cd

[macc4]

yes, not many clubs have decent 1200's anymore, due to lack of respect from cd dj's with their heavy wallets

[Spectrum]

DJs. :lol:

[manuka]

and wankers that put there 50000 cd walet on tonearms

fkn cock suckers

you have a 45 minute set, why do you need 500 cds with 500000 mp3's on each cd

YES that happened to me a few weeks ago

mr plastic fantastic cd jock rocks up and puts his heavy fuckin cd wallet on top of the TT tonearm... AND my cartridge was still on there. i'm not a rude person so i politely removed the offending article and removed my cartridge while knobhead proceeded to play the same track as I did an hour earlier. :slap:

then he cleared the floor in about 20 mins. enough said really. :geek:

[forenzik]

Why do some DJ's have zero respect for the gear in clubs? Would you do this to your gear at home (obviously not). I mean, it does keep me in a job, but I just don't understand the mentality of some DJ's.
I'm totally feeling you on this..
It shits me to no end when I do a job on sticky equipment! Seriously, what the fuck is up with some of these DJ's!!

It also really shits me when I turn up to do a shift, and the DJ before me neglects to clean up the multitude of half empty schooner glasses and shot glasses left all around the decks! Clean up after yourselves kids!!

:whyioughtta:

[Dr_Hysteric]

I agree with the above statements... shows a lack of respect for both the venue and your fellow DJs.

Noticed a lot more bars with a "No drinks in the the booth" policy which I think will soon be the norm.
Again a case of dickheads ruining it for everyone else.

[ferretrock]

I agree with the above statements... shows a lack of respect for both the venue and your fellow DJs.

Noticed a lot more bars with a "No drinks in the the booth" policy which I think will soon be the norm.
Again a case of dickheads ruining it for everyone else.
I see enough places with the signs that say such, but who really adheres to those rules?
I also get pissed off seeing CD-wallets on tonearms. You do realise that your CD wallet is about 8 kilos and that tonearm is only 300grams and floating?
Fucking derros. :mad:

DJs. :lol:
I could also comment on the beers spilt on my amp when I played in bands, but I'd only have myself to blame. :(

[plan-b]

Some people have no respect. I would also like to know how you lose a fader cap...

I guess it can fall onto the ground and roll somewhere under the booth

[pEAkeR_hAT]

If you are banging out a set and a fader cap comes off in a dark club with a packed dancefloor, are you going to stop and look for it ?

[macc4]

All these fader caps, they just fly off the mixer at random do they?

[funkyant]

If you are banging out a set and a fader cap comes off in a dark club with a packed dancefloor, are you going to stop and look for it ?


Um... YES.

Scared you're going to lose the dancefloor if you stop pretending to tweak knobs for 30 seconds?

:rainman:

[plan-b]

All these fader caps, they just fly off the mixer at random do they?
Well they've got to go somewhere :P

[Funkedub]

How do you lose a fader cap? If it does come off, wouldn't you just pick it up and put it back on?




I've lost cross fader caps in a few different situations ... when you're getting busy with cuts and scratches it's not uncommon for a cross fader cap to go flying off, and in a dark club/house/booth it's seldom easy to locate and you don't have time to look for it if you have to get another tune on ASAP ... perhaps they should make the caps harder to remove :P


Not being able to have a drink in the booth would stop me mixing out ever again to be honest.

[macc4]

The caps don't just fly off on their own funke, maybe you just get a little bit too excited sometimes

[Funkedub]

nerp ... just loose caps.

I don't get that excited ... but i do get busy ... the mixer should be up for it if you ask me ... i shouldn't have to baby the mixer

i give mine hell at home and it's never come off BTW

[ferretrock]

nerp ... just loose caps.

I don't get that excited ... but i do get busy ... the mixer should be up for it if you ask me ... i shouldn't have to baby the mixer

i give mine hell at home and it's never come off BTW
QFT. Maybe the fader caps just need replacing more often/need to be made better?

[plan-b]

I've seen loose knobs and fader caps come off too easily at times..

Even if you can't find it at least have a look for it after/when you have time during your set, that's just common curtosey, it's not the clubs or the next DJs fault the knob came off..

[ferretrock]

^Agreed that you should look for it, but I also think that it would be worthwhile for the club to have a couple of spares (and to have their cleaners know what they look like so that they don't just throw them out.
I've seen a few shows with internationals playing and no caps on the faders; That to me just shows that we don't take ourselves seriously. You don't give someone broken gear to play on.

[plan-b]

^Agreed that you should look for it, but I also think that it would be worthwhile for the club to have a couple of spares (and to have their cleaners know what they look like so that they don't just throw them out.
I've seen a few shows with internationals playing and no caps on the faders; That to me just shows that we don't take ourselves seriously. You don't give someone broken gear to play on.
Agree fully... The DJ booth seems to be at the bottom of most clubs priorities

[funkyant]

I definitely agree that the fader caps are too flimsy and could do with a redesign. Same goes for the 4mm microswitches under the cue & play/pause buttons of CDJ's. The fader caps may be that way on purpose, as I'd rather a heavy handed DJ breaks the cap over the fader itself any day.

For sure they gradually wear out under normal use, but when I see a devastated DJM800 that was fine the week before, then I know some DJ over the weekend was retarded.

Saying that you're too busy cutting sick is no excuse to abuse the gear. If your mixing style destroys faders, then you need to have a good hard look at your technique.

Guitarists don't smash their strings so hard that they break strings every song.

[Funkedub]

Saying that you're too busy cutting sick is no excuse to abuse the gear. If your mixing style destroys faders, then you need to have a good hard look at your technique.

Guitarists don't smash their strings so hard that they break strings every song.


interesting ... i was actually going to draw a guitar analogy earlier ... I've been a guitar playing doing gigs live ... and whilst you might not breaks strings every song, it's hardly unknown to have strings breaks when "rockin' out"


As i said, i've gone harder on my mixer at home than any mixer in a venue, and it's still A O K. It's not "abusing gear" in my opinion. It's giving a solid performance on it 8)

[polanski]

Not being able to have a drink in the booth would stop me mixing out ever again to be honest.


same:|

[ferretrock]

I struggle to get through my drinks while I'm mixing, but I do like having a couple over the course, all the same. There's always somewhere nearby to put them even if there's not to be any stricly in the booth.

[Underdog]

I repair technics and pioneer gear from a lot of clubs around Sydney.


quick question, how much do you charge to service 2 x 1200`s, plus upgrade / replace the RCA and the earth wire on one of them?

and yes the whole CD wallety on the tone arm shits me no end, TBH the state the decks in many club makes playing vinyl a torturous thing sometimes

[funkyant]

$65 per deck, plus parts. Major faults like bent spindles, burnt motors, extreme drink spills, etc will cost $100.

If I'm doing them onsite (Sydney CBD only), I charge a $250 call out fee, which includes 1 hour of service time and no per deck charge. I can do 2 deck services in 1 hour unless there's major problems.

All services are COD.

If I'm going to replace the ground wire, I'll replace the RCA's while I'm in there. I can also mod the deck so the ground wire is not required, as most modern mixers (pioneer, A&H, vestax) use a common ground between signal earth and the grounding post. Testing has also shown this to work with serato and final scratch.

[Matt B-M]

the couple of times i've played out in sydney, the 1210s had obviously not been used for months and months. thick layer of dust on the tonearms and platters. I also don't quite understand why venues can't supply carts - surely that's part of the set up?!

[macc4]

nah, they would fly off tonearms in a similar fashion to the fader caps

[Tang_]

I'm suprised the decks themselves dont 'fly' off and go missing more often...

[Underdog]

$65 per deck, plus parts. Major faults like bent spindles, burnt motors, extreme drink spills, etc will cost $100.

If I'm doing them onsite (Sydney CBD only), I charge a $250 call out fee, which includes 1 hour of service time and no per deck charge. I can do 2 deck services in 1 hour unless there's major problems.

All services are COD.

If I'm going to replace the ground wire, I'll replace the RCA's while I'm in there. I can also mod the deck so the ground wire is not required, as most modern mixers (pioneer, A&H, vestax) use a common ground between signal earth and the grounding post. Testing has also shown this to work with serato and final scratch.

cool, my decks have only ever seen home use, so no nasty accidents / drinks etc

Im using a rane mp2016 + xp2016 so im not sure id like tro do away with the ground wire altogether

where are you based?

[twistedbydesign]

All these fader caps, they just fly off the mixer at random do they?
on djms, yes, they do. very easily

[Bracko]

yeah, I've put a fader cap 3 deep in the crowd from overzealous cutting.

[Spinning Half]

Tang man, thats the sickest avatar!

[funkyant]

cool, my decks have only ever seen home use, so no nasty accidents / drinks etc

Im using a rane mp2016 + xp2016 so im not sure id like tro do away with the ground wire altogether

where are you based?

Sylvania Waters

[Bracko]

address plz... i need some CDJ's

:P

[TyPhoNiC]

I've thrown many a fader cap in my life. Try this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2t5q3-ZVGA

[ferretrock]

^Which led me to this (irrelevant) video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsCsTgxzj7M&feature=related)

[truba]

on djms, yes, they do. very easily
same as xone mixers, i look for mine around my bedroom everytime i play pos:mad:

[powerstruggle]

All these fader caps, they just fly off the mixer at random do they?

I lost mine in my home studio setup for a few days one time.

They fly off like ninja stars.

[macc4]

well I must have some kind of freak djm, because mine dont come off!

what i do, is when the fader goes as far as it does, i stop pushing.

[Marc Us]

agree with the lack of use turnies re: dust & drinks on platter etc, if only more venues still have there tt dust covers in the booth. i always just put them on & place my wallet on top of the cover. solves everything, including creating more space for the tiny booths

ps - hi antman, didnt know u did repairs, will send u some work, plenty of places i play at with stuffed equip :)

[Spicy]

DJs. :lol:hey bitch it's not always the DJ's fault. i had beer spilt on my laptop but some smashed punter just minutes before i was meant to start playing. the screen turned off and wouldn't come back on. grrr! it ended up working again after a little while though, luckily.

how would you feel though if the same dickead was spilling beer on your gear while you're playing live? i imagine you'd vent your anger all over his face. (hehehe)

[larrisajones]

To all pubs and clubs: thank you for putting a little box thing near your dance floor for me to safely store my bag and drink, and its so nice of you to put a security dude there too even though he is usally kinda weedy and busy playing with these knobs on some electrical looking stuff :thumb:

[WADZA]

ohh my god. pet hate. lol

this aint the cloakroom biyatch!!!

[Will666]

Funny funny stuff i always feel the need to bring 1000000000000 tracks never know when your going to have to drop "the final countdown" its day will come hahahaha

[Spitchen]

I could also comment on the beers spilt on my amp when I played in bands, but I'd only have myself to blame. :(

But but... wait. You DJ so, using the wonderful logic used by people like Spectrum and co, you can't possibly play an instrument too or play in a band. :rainman:


Some people.

[seth111]

same as xone mixers, i look for mine around my bedroom everytime i play pos:mad:

What do you do to your fader caps??? My Xone has them securely locked on there!

[louislogic]

if your fader caps don't fly off you're doing it wrong.

i just got a completely new set of caps (FOR FREE, BITCH, WHUUUUUUUUUT?) and they lasted like 12 minutes before flying off and landing in my bitch's lentil soup.

sometimes I turn and glance at my decks while i'm watching telly and one will just pop off... and the other two just sit there and laugh, man.

[WADZA]

your also not using cdj's properly unless you smash your fingers down onto the cue & play buttons so hard someone 2 metres away can hear it.

[seanious]

your also not using cdj's properly unless you smash your fingers down onto the cue & play buttons so hard someone 2 metres away can hear it.

This is especially the case with Denon CD-DJs and their rubber buttons

[XiTatiON]

More clubs should leave the covers on 1200's i think... so that dj's can place shit ontop of the plastic covers... Also good for laptops.

[macc4]

Reading this thread, it seems that it's mainly the cdj boys that lack respect for dj equipment.
Any ideas as to why this is the case?

[trouble hifire]

^^ i think its because cd's in general are so cheap and disposable, you see them throwing them around and treating them like shit because they can simply go home and burn a new copy.

a wax dj on the other hand has learnt the value of his records and i believe this translates into respect of the booth.

[mashedman]

or it's the simple fact that there are more cd djs so therefore a bigger number of cunt.

[trouble hifire]

^^ true.

the dawn of the cdj's opened up dj'ing to far to many people imo.

[Spitchen]

:lol: at the elitist stereotyping twats. ITM at its worst as usual.

[macc4]

:lol: at the elitist stereotyping twats. ITM at its worst as usual.

says the guy with the elite stereotyping post

[ezywarp]

Pretty amazing thread.. I always knew the gear in clubs gets a rough ride but I didn't realize it was that bad. I think clubs could put a bit more forethought into the design of their booths too though.. A good start would be to make space for CD wallets and laptops (some clubs are even installing a stand for this which is good).

Still it's by no means an excuse to put the wallet on tonearms.. Bit of a lack of respect really.

[r0bsta]

hey bitch it's not always the DJ's fault. i had beer spilt on my laptop but some smashed punter just minutes before i was meant to start playing.

agreed - i can't count the number of times someone has spotted this handy table right by the dancefloor, and squeezed their drink onto it alongside all the others. shame some idiot put decks and a mixer on it, or there'd be more room for the drinks.

[Spicy]

or it's the simple fact that there are more cd djs so therefore a bigger number of ****.haha!! i must say i do appreciate your logic there.

[jarrardscott]

imo plastic barriers like in laundry are a necessity for dj booths these days.

a seperate table (AWAY from) dj booth (to the side or behind) for their drinks.
and space for cd wallets or laptop.

without this, gears gonna get fucked.

[DjReal]

I miss the old Vestax PMC Range. No plastic faders or caps anywhere to be found.

[TyPhoNiC]

One of the worst things I've seen was at a club in Canberra where the groove around the base of the tonearm was used as an ashtray! Quite disgusting to play on

[Spitchen]

says the guy with the elite stereotyping post

er... yeh right.

[powerstruggle]

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/6401703g69.gif

[ferretrock]

I miss the old Vestax PMC Range. No plastic faders or caps anywhere to be found.
BS - I have one and the fader caps are plastic.
I've never had a knob come off (they are metal, as is the faceplate), though, which is certainly a lot more than I can say for the Pioneer that it replaced.

[louislogic]

vestax just SOUND like they're made of 16 gauge mild steel

[ferretrock]

^:lol:

[pEAkeR_hAT]

anyway



The other night i was drunk and scratching at a mate house , and the crossfader cap came of (Vestax VMC002xl), and everyone in the room seemed impressed, like I had surpassed the level of the mixer hahahaha

[seanious]

anyway



The other night i was drunk and scratching at a mate house , and the crossfader cap came of (Vestax VMC002xl), and everyone in the room seemed impressed, like I had surpassed the level of the mixer hahahaha

Did blood and shit fly everywhere?

[louislogic]

One of the worst things I've seen was at a club in Canberra where the groove around the base of the tonearm was used as an ashtray! Quite disgusting to play on


at greenwood hotel north syd a 2" cockroach climbed out from in there while i was playin

[WADZA]

ive seen a big pile of dried vomit in a dj booth...

[jarrardscott]

i've seen a shit in a dj booth

[louislogic]

^ was it you?

[twistedbydesign]

i've seen a shit in a dj booth

hearing about it on the internet and claiming you were there ain't cool

[Spinning Half]

Some dude pissed in and under my FOH booth right onto the power leads for the lights/mixer/external hardware (compressors/gates/reverbs/computer) one night when i was not there.

Now there is a mic stand close at hand to fend off any future aspirations! :ninja:

[tony d]

So how often should you service 1200's that are used for home use?

[twistedbydesign]

The other night i was drunk and scratching at a mate house , and the crossfader cap came of (Vestax VMC002xl), and everyone in the room seemed impressed, like I had surpassed the level of the mixer hahahaha
I saw a fly fly into another fly once
I was impressed
acid does that

[louislogic]

So how often should you service 1200's that are used for home use?


mine havent seen a service in about 9-10 years.. working perfectly...

[mashedman]

i've seen a shit in a dj booth
sif you were 18 then

[funkyant]

So how often should you service 1200's that are used for home use?

As a general rule, as long as the decks play good, then they are good.

Technics 1200's are truly an amazing design. Simple, sturdy and functional. Most faults are caused by three factors, being: dust, liquid and incorrect use.

Rarely do they fault on their own, with the exception of the target light burning out, and the tonearm contacts corroding - but they're not faults really.

Dust, debris, liquid and heavy-handedness on the pitch fader causes problems such as misalignment and fluctuation (you may have seen the platter appear to 'wobble' when playing), and voltages can drift causing the deck to have two pitch centres (both with the quartz lock on, and then at another point on the fader).

Bearings in the tonearm can be worn from dust and lack of lubrication.

Anti skate springs can stretch.

Eventually, all of the above will happen to every regularly used turntable. There are preventative maintenance actions which WILL extend the amount of time before all this happens to your decks.

Or you can just wait till a part fails and then replace it.

Either way, a set of Technics will last you a lifetime unless you toss them from a speeding vehicle.

Oh yeah - DON'T LICK YOUR HEADSHELLS!!! Spit is about the worst thing for the contacts. It will cause everything to prematurely corrode. I've replaced many tonearms unnecessarily because of this. If you really have to, get soda water from the bar. A can of contact cleaner is best.

[YossarianIsSane]

Reading this thread, it seems that it's mainly the cdj boys that lack respect for dj equipment.
Any ideas as to why this is the case?

Oh it's universal. I think as records and carts are expensive and relatively delicate you gain a bit more respect. However, i've still had to deal with cigarette ash (back in the day) in jog wheels and more recently laptops running serato sitting on CDJ jog wheels. Can't be good for them.

[tony d]

As a general rule, as long as the decks play good, then they are good.

Technics 1200's are truly an amazing design. Simple, sturdy and functional. Most faults are caused by three factors, being: dust, liquid and incorrect use.

Rarely do they fault on their own, with the exception of the target light burning out, and the tonearm contacts corroding - but they're not faults really.

Dust, debris, liquid and heavy-handedness on the pitch fader causes problems such as misalignment and fluctuation (you may have seen the platter appear to 'wobble' when playing), and voltages can drift causing the deck to have two pitch centres (both with the quartz lock on, and then at another point on the fader).

Bearings in the tonearm can be worn from dust and lack of lubrication.

Anti skate springs can stretch.

Eventually, all of the above will happen to every regularly used turntable. There are preventative maintenance actions which WILL extend the amount of time before all this happens to your decks.

Or you can just wait till a part fails and then replace it.

Either way, a set of Technics will last you a lifetime unless you toss them from a speeding vehicle.

Oh yeah - DON'T LICK YOUR HEADSHELLS!!! Spit is about the worst thing for the contacts. It will cause everything to prematurely corrode. I've replaced many tonearms unnecessarily because of this. If you really have to, get soda water from the bar. A can of contact cleaner is best.

Awesome, thanks. Someone told me a service once a year is a must, but i've had mine for 6 years and still going strong. Cheers :thumb:

[louislogic]

funkyant - in terms of PM what is there?

contact cleaner/lube squirts every couple of months or do would you actually have to take it apart?

laptops running serato sitting on CDJ jog wheels. Can't be good for them.

haha, thats payback.. bitch! :)

[plan-b]

agreed - i can't count the number of times someone has spotted this handy table right by the dancefloor, and squeezed their drink onto it alongside all the others. shame some idiot put decks and a mixer on it, or there'd be more room for the drinks.

I'd grab the attention of the next security guard/glassy that walks past and get him to clear all the drinks away...

sif you were 18 then

Wasn't that an urban story about 5-10 years ago about some girl being that wasted she didn't even realise what she was up to in a big Sydney club somewhere???

[plan-b]

haha, thats payback.. bitch! :)

It's not.. One club up here in Brissy used to have a CDJ that bad that it was only good for playing in CDJ mode.. Playing in vinyl mode would have the effect of putting your hand on the platter..

[DjReal]

BS - I have one and the fader caps are plastic.
I've never had a knob come off (they are metal, as is the faceplate), though, which is certainly a lot more than I can say for the Pioneer that it replaced.

Sorry, very broad generalisation there.

I was refering to mixers such as the PMC-25/250, PMC50A.

There are a few others aswell but cant think of their model numbers off the top of my head.

[dj hektic]

good work to the clubs that are actually "fixing" the dj equipment..

a club i use to have a residency at did not service their cdj1000 mk3's at all..

while one of my tracks were playing.. the cdj would just randomly pause.. the worst was when i was mixing my track in and the cdj just paused...

but yeah dj's should have respect for the equipment in the dj booth

[plan-b]

well I must have some kind of freak djm, because mine dont come off!

what i do, is when the fader goes as far as it does, i stop pushing.
I played at Planet last night and I did maybe two or three mixes where the fader on one of the channels didn't fall off.. It happened more often when mixing the track in, and a couple of times I looked down and realised the cap had fallen off completely

[mashedman]

Wasn't that an urban story about 5-10 years ago about some girl being that wasted she didn't even realise what she was up to in a big Sydney club somewhere???
It def happend, at home, i wasnt there but know at least 5 people who were. Took a dump next to the dj booth

[ferretrock]

Sorry, very broad generalisation there.

I was refering to mixers such as the PMC-25/250, PMC50A.

There are a few others aswell but cant think of their model numbers off the top of my head.
I have the PMC-50A - no metal caps.
PMC-25s are damn HOT, and do look like they've got metal caps (I've never played one).

I played at the Bunker last night, someone had spilt a drink into one of the Technics. Luckily it still ran fine. Those decks could definetely do with a service, one of them has consistently shit RCAs.

[DjReal]

I have the PMC-50A - no metal caps.
PMC-25s are damn HOT, and do look like they've got metal caps (I've never played one).

I played at the Bunker last night, someone had spilt a drink into one of the Technics. Luckily it still ran fine. Those decks could definetely do with a service, one of them has consistently shit RCAs.


Must be fader caps that are plastic on the PMC50A, i've only used a rotary one and the eq pots definately werent plastic.

The 25's are a solid mixer too, was lucky enough to use one up on the terrace once.

Still one of the better 2ch mixers out there, despite the age.

[funkyant]

Picked up a DJM-800 from Laundry today that had a diabolical drink spill.

Can't blame that one on the punters.

[ferretrock]

Must be fader caps that are plastic on the PMC50A, i've only used a rotary one and the eq pots definately werent plastic.
I said before that the EQ pots were metal.

How was the PMC-50 as a rotary? I've considered the move, but thought that the roatry pots looked a little small, whereas the PMC-25 or CarlCox looked better?

/hijack

[twistedbydesign]

at its worst as usual
wouldn't the worst be something worse than the usual...

[DjReal]

I said before that the EQ pots were metal.

How was the PMC-50 as a rotary? I've considered the move, but thought that the roatry pots looked a little small, whereas the PMC-25 or CarlCox looked better?

/hijack


It had a pretty nice feel to it. The 25 definately has much bigger pots on it, very chunky, but the size of the ones on the 50 are of somewhat similar size to the rane empath.

Been in the market to try and pick up a 50A for myself but without looking overseas, they're getting harder to find.

[louislogic]

wouldn't the worst be something worse than the usual...

not if we're performing consitently at the highest concentration of bad humanly possible

[ezywarp]

lol "I played my best worst tonight"

[dudu]

Picked up a DJM-800 from Laundry today that had a diabolical drink spill.

Can't blame that one on the punters.

pssst

that was kelevra the clumsy idiot.

[Spitchen]

not if we're performing consitently at the highest concentration of bad humanly possible

Exactly, but then that doesn't hold true, so TBD is correct.

[twistedbydesign]

Which would be the epitome of ITM at its worst as usual if I'm not mistaken

[louislogic]

butt!

[twistedbydesign]

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exactly

[funkyant]

It had a pretty nice feel to it. The 25 definately has much bigger pots on it, very chunky, but the size of the ones on the 50 are of somewhat similar size to the rane empath.

Been in the market to try and pick up a 50A for myself but without looking overseas, they're getting harder to find.

I have a PMC-50A that I just might want to get rid of, actually.

[ferretrock]

^I was thinking along similar lines. I want to get me a PMC-CX. :drool:

[louislogic]

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exactly

hahaha

[DjReal]

I've been looking at getting a rane empath rotary as i really want a rotary and it seems like one of the cheaper options in a desktop mixer over a rack mount. Unfortunately, saving for it is getting harder and harder, so a cheaper option of a PMC50 depending on price i would definately be interested in!

[funkyant]

I've been looking at getting a rane empath rotary as i really want a rotary and it seems like one of the cheaper options in a desktop mixer over a rack mount. Unfortunately, saving for it is getting harder and harder, so a cheaper option of a PMC50 depending on price i would definately be interested in!

You tell me what you want to pay, and I'll tell you if I want to sell :P

I don't expect top dollar, as it has a slight ding on the top right corner, and has done a few gigs. However I will put brand new faders in it, as well as give it a full service before I send it off, if you want it.

[DjReal]

I could probably part with a figure between $300-$400.

Gotta try and keep some pennies aside to source a rotary kit for it if i manage to acquire one of these mixers.

[Rushton]

played at the club i normally do after going on 3 weeks holiday today and the djm 1000 was missing a fader cap, low band eq nob plus most of the other eq's have lost most of the rubber....though id just add to the list of abused gear hahaha

[rossredman]

yeah, it seems the new series of pioneer mixer's EQ rubber wears out quite quickly