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Matty_neal
26-Apr-09, 08:02pm
I just had such a horrible time trying to use my turntables after playing with cdj's. It feels like more of a chore than anything to use vinyl :(
Should I hang on to them? Will that lovin feelin come back? I need advice :(
anyone regret selling their vinyl for cdj's?
CircusMidget
26-Apr-09, 08:10pm
It feels like more of a chore than anything to use vinyl :(
1. become lazy
2. sell turntables
3. ???
4. profit
Matty_neal
26-Apr-09, 08:13pm
Well, I'd be using the profit to buy a better mixer & another cdj...
Simon_Murphy
26-Apr-09, 08:16pm
I could never part with my decks. I don't give them as much time as I used to but sometimes there is nothing better than pulling out a bunch of old records and mixing tunes.
dj deza
26-Apr-09, 08:46pm
i could never part with mine either it's always good to pull out some old classics on vinyl and mix it up with some new stuff, but after playing cdj's for a couple years when i put a record on i find it a little bit harder to mix.
I will always play vinyl i still like to buy it but no were near as much as i used to dont have the spare cash anymore. Still find a few bargins on ebay though.
I could never part with my decks. I don't give them as much time as I used to but sometimes there is nothing better than pulling out a bunch of old records and mixing tunes.
Totally with ya Simon. I could never part with my TTs.
Vinly holds a really special place in my heart, and aside from using it to DJ with, i still collect and listen to it alot. Nothing will ever compare to that warmth and beautiful sound that vinyl replicates. That warm crackly feeling of letting some wax peel through ya TTs. Tis utter bliss :D
i sold my tt's when i got cdj's and i've regretted it ever since (not getting cdj's, just selling the tt's). not least because i'd now like to get serato for scratching but i'd have to go and buy another set of 1200's :mad:
powerstruggle
27-Apr-09, 09:37am
I have a full TT setup that I wanted to sell and buy heaps mad technics hardware.
Then someone asked why I needed to sell the first setup. Mainly it was for the cash to buy new gear, but in waiting a bit longer and saving more, I would end up with a leet 4 deck setup.
Then I could battle myself on 2 setups :rock:
Matty_neal
27-Apr-09, 05:50pm
changed my plan. Not selling em. Just gonna do what powerstruggle said. Save up for longer THEN buy the other turntable. :)
seth111
27-Apr-09, 06:03pm
changed my plan. Not selling em. Just gonna do what powerstruggle said. Save up for longer THEN buy the other turntable. :)
Good on ya Matty :thumb:
changed my plan. Not selling em. Just gonna do what powerstruggle said. Save up for longer THEN buy the other turntable. :)
Wise move dude. ;)
pEAkeR_hAT
27-Apr-09, 06:26pm
good lad
ChewbaccaKongDSp
07-Aug-09, 09:17am
use the money from selling your turntables to buy all of the $4.60 tracks available
slackas
07-Aug-09, 09:31am
use the money from selling your turntables to buy all of the $4.60 tracks available
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trenthalliday
07-Aug-09, 09:31am
http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=256305
Dude...
Eclerkid
07-Aug-09, 09:57am
use the money from selling your turntables to buy all of the $4.60 tracks available
Beat me too it!!! Really set him self up for a shit canning......
ayampanggang
07-Aug-09, 04:06pm
Wow kind of similiar case with me, I'm thinking of selling my CDJs and getting a decent MIDI controller. Going hardware = more expensive + hassle to burn CDs and labelling them and I want to be able to do some crazy mashup and live song rearrangement.
But still, an hour ago I just called up a store asking for CDJ and mixer price. lol
changed my plan. Not selling em. Just gonna do what powerstruggle said. Save up for longer THEN buy the other turntable. :)
Good plan, in a year or two you might decide to sell the girls but you shouldn't rush into a decision like that, there are a lot of DJ's that play CD's out and play vinyl at home!
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Matty_neal
07-Aug-09, 05:23pm
use the money from selling your turntables to buy all of the $4.60 tracks available
You doug up a 3 month old thread to make a shit joke?
slackas
07-Aug-09, 07:05pm
laugh at it man, its funny....
jabbajaws
07-Aug-09, 08:43pm
ywah. it is.
Matty_neal
08-Aug-09, 12:53pm
I guess. If there's anyone who can take the piss out of themselves, it's definately me.
Gen Y = Age of the undecided short attention spanned whingers.
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forenzik
08-Aug-09, 01:38pm
Kind of brings up an interesting point..
The technology nowadays makes it so incredibly easy to mix to songs together, that many DJ's now don't know how to defeat the physical restraint of beatmatching vinyl..
CD are relatively easy.. fundamentally, you got an intstant CUE trigger, and a huge jogwheel that you can adjust to your liking..
Vinyl - Needs to be pushed and pulled much more, and there is way more effort and skill in putting together seamless mixes..
So is this something that will eventually be lost in DJ'ing.. And is this a good or bad thing?
In the days before techincs 1200's, many DJ's were dealing with belt drive turntables, and very limited pitch controls - Now that is hard work!
Perhaps it's not important anymore - I mean, the crowd don't care what medium you use.. But as a bit of a purist at heart, I do think it's a little sad..
Check MARK THE 45 KING cutting it up seamless on beltdrive portables..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw1hsGaEEDo
Kind of brings up an interesting point..
The technology nowadays makes it so incredibly easy to mix to songs together, that many DJ's now don't know how to defeat the physical restraint of beatmatching vinyl..
CD are relatively easy.. fundamentally, you got an intstant CUE trigger, and a huge jogwheel that you can adjust to your liking..
Vinyl - Needs to be pushed and pulled much more, and there is way more effort and skill in putting together seamless mixes..
So is this something that will eventually be lost in DJ'ing.. And is this a good or bad thing?
In the days before techincs 1200's, many DJ's were dealing with belt drive turntables, and very limited pitch controls - Now that is hard work!
Perhaps it's not important anymore - I mean, the crowd don't care what medium you use.. But as a bit of a purist at heart, I do think it's a little sad..
Check MARK THE 45 KING cutting it up seamless on beltdrive portables..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw1hsGaEEDo
I agree the skills are disappearing but I find punters in general might not notice the difference in sound quality but on the most part they still love to watch me play vinyl!
I have 2 Thorens 125mk2 belt drive turntables and it takes a bit more brain power but they aren’t that hard to play on once you get the hang of it!
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forenzik
08-Aug-09, 02:02pm
I agree the skills are disappearing but I find punters in general might not notice the difference in sound quality but on the most part they still love to watch me play vinyl!
I have 2 Thorens 125mk2 belt drive turntables and it takes a bit more brain power but they aren’t that hard to play on once you get the hang of it!
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agree.. I first learnt to DJ on an old belt drive in the mid 80's - It was one of those old home stereosystem/pull out turntables all in one systems..
I ended up pulling the turntable out, soldering in a stop start button and a pitch control rotary knob - used that with one of those oldschool realistic DJ mixers (remember the one with the click in the middle of the crossfader) - I learnt to scratch on that thing - Oldschool!
To think that nowdays I'm playing Mp3's on a laptop through timecode blows my mind!
Still undecided on DJ's who use those newschool midi controllers - Perhaps I'm just showing my age, but it kinda looks a bit wack to me! What do those DJ's do when they play in the club? Do they plug in thier midi controller or just use the club equipment.. Each to their own I guess.. Just kinda seems a little limiting learning to use your own controller, and perhaps not being as versed in using a standard club set up as they should be..
(off topic - sorry)
agree.. I first learnt to DJ on an old belt drive in the mid 80's - It was one of those old home stereosystem/pull out turntables all in one systems..
I ended up pulling the turntable out, soldering in a stop start button and a pitch control rotary knob - used that with one of those oldschool realistic DJ mixers (remember the one with the click in the middle of the crossfader) - I learnt to scratch on that thing - Oldschool!
To think that nowdays I'm playing Mp3's on a laptop through timecode blows my mind!
Still undecided on DJ's who use those newschool midi controllers - Perhaps I'm just showing my age, but it kinda looks a bit wack to me! What do those DJ's do when they play in the club? Do they plug in thier midi controller or just use the club equipment.. Each to their own I guess.. Just kinda seems a little limiting learning to use your own controller, and perhaps not being as versed in using a standard club set up as they should be..
(off topic - sorry)
I remember the click cross fader though I don’t remember what the mixer looked like!
Yeah I just had to stop playing vinyl at 2 of my residencies recently as the turntables don’t work, mind you I still by vinyl I’ll just have to record it from now on!
I feel the best setup for a beginner or a practice setup is a simple battle style 2ch and 2x no-frills CDJ’s or 2x SL1200mk2, this way you will be able to play on any club setup!
I don’t like the idea of all these features before sound quality equipment these days but everyone is entitled to their own opinion!
ayampanggang
08-Aug-09, 08:50pm
Even though I have never touched a vinyl before I can imagine the feeling of having to manually cue, to correctly push or hold the record gently, etc. It must have that genuine feeling of 'hey. this mix, everything is 100% my work!'
Heck even I, who only ever use CDs, feel that CDJ is much more 'genuine' compared to when I tried to mix with a midi controller. It's true that you can do alot more with software, but somehow I feel that I'll miss the feeling of having to ride the pitch, cue and touching the real knobs and sliders-the feeling you got when you know that everything is done by you.
palaeo-tech
10-Aug-09, 12:40pm
Still undecided on DJ's who use those newschool midi controllers - Perhaps I'm just showing my age, but it kinda looks a bit wack to me! What do those DJ's do when they play in the club? Do they plug in thier midi controller or just use the club equipment.. Each to their own I guess.. Just kinda seems a little limiting learning to use your own controller, and perhaps not being as versed in using a standard club set up as they should be..
(off topic - sorry)
Not entirely off topic - I love vinyl and prefer to use timecode control to pure MIDI but when the 'standard club set-up' is unreliable at best using ones own controller becomes an increasingly good option.
Most turntables in clubs nowadays spend more time as drink coasters than playback machines and as such rarely get serviced and often have problems. As an example, I tend to follow Ellen Allien's MySpace blog and every second entry seems to be, "sorry about last night, the clubs turntables were fucked couldn't get it right". Could be that she's covering up inabilities but I doubt it because it's something so many others seem to be suffering.
Besides, with a decent laptop a VCI-100SE and Audio2DJ you've shed loads of scope to do some pretty gnarly shit that simply isn't possible on conventional gear. I know it's something I'd love to try out ...
Sideshow Rod
10-Aug-09, 03:43pm
do you really need other people's advice on whether or not to sell you gear?
1. become lazy
2. sell turntables
3. ???
4. profit
haha a formula similar to the underpants gnomes
toilet trained
10-Aug-09, 05:51pm
agree.. I first learnt to DJ on an old belt drive in the mid 80's - It was one of those old home stereosystem/pull out turntables all in one systems..
I ended up pulling the turntable out, soldering in a stop start button and a pitch control rotary knob - used that with one of those oldschool realistic DJ mixers (remember the one with the click in the middle of the crossfader) - I learnt to scratch on that thing - Oldschool!
To think that nowdays I'm playing Mp3's on a laptop through timecode blows my mind!
Still undecided on DJ's who use those newschool midi controllers - Perhaps I'm just showing my age, but it kinda looks a bit wack to me! What do those DJ's do when they play in the club? Do they plug in thier midi controller or just use the club equipment.. Each to their own I guess.. Just kinda seems a little limiting learning to use your own controller, and perhaps not being as versed in using a standard club set up as they should be..
(off topic - sorry)
i am with you on the MIDI controllers being a bit wack...i think the software is generally miles in front of the interfaces still, thats why timecoding is still the best way to digital interface IMO.
but, if you are timecoding, with all the flexibility that software offers, is mixing much different than using CDJs? it may even be a bit easier (this is not knocking you)
buut...the reality is that technology is there, and it takes a real oldschooler to ignore it all (which i am not)
Still...i have recently got into vinyl, from a digital background and find it massively more enjoyable...and actually easier, maybe not so much to a CDJ 1000 with adjustable jog sensitivity, but the control you have over bumping vinyl is way better than shittly little jog controls on most digital interfaces.
i am going to buy Tracktor scratch though, as i cant be without my mp3 collection.
Matty_neal
10-Aug-09, 05:55pm
It's a shame, because I've used vinyl for a few years now and I'm pretty certain I'll never get a chance to play out using em. I mean, I've had the opportunity but I don't have a laptop soooo kinda hard having a fairly limited selection of vinyl. Most of it isn't stuff I'd wanna use to DJ with.
I'm starting to feel really lucky I've had the chance to experience it. Hell, Vinyl is THE first ever format for recording music, that's pretty epic!
louislogic
10-Aug-09, 06:18pm
Hell, Vinyl is THE first ever format for recording music, that's pretty epic!
nah
Pro Tool
10-Aug-09, 06:29pm
Yeah I'd be doing some fact checking on that one dude.
louislogic
10-Aug-09, 06:42pm
if i squint at the word 'fact' it looks kinda like the word 'fart'
Pro Tool
10-Aug-09, 06:45pm
And if you squint a little bit harder you might even smell it.
louislogic
10-Aug-09, 06:57pm
I squinted so hard I actually farted!
Matty_neal
10-Aug-09, 08:37pm
Yeah I'd be doing some fact checking on that one dude.
I wouldn't call a piece of tin a real solid recording device. I'm talking first mass produced.
Pro Tool
10-Aug-09, 08:46pm
Ah but that's not what you said...
Hell, Vinyl is THE first ever format for recording music, that's pretty epic!
And besides which it wasn't vinyl that was the first mass produced it was shellac... so you know :) Though the principle's the same.
Matty_neal
10-Aug-09, 08:47pm
True. Many materials were used, but hey, it ended up as this black crap we all love today!
edit: Further inspection reveals I'm wrong again. There were quite a few mass produced mediums before vinyl. I fail.
BUUUUUT there were only two real different mediums, round platters and cylinders. Platters win woo. I was close enough.
SlicyDicer
11-Aug-09, 01:10am
Knowing stuff is cool
Ah but that's not what you said...
And besides which it wasn't vinyl that was the first mass produced it was shellac... so you know :) Though the principle's the same.
Can't scratch on the shellac though, so it doesn't count:-D
Hey I wonder if I can scratch on tape,, Hmmmm time to play!!!:hooray:
Knowing stuff is cool
Knowing stuff is over rated!
Drinking until you forget stuff, now that’s COOL8) !!
Keep it if you still love it
Sell it if you think that is a expensive junk.
[QUOTE=forenzik
Still undecided on DJ's who use those newschool midi controllers - Perhaps I'm just showing my age, but it kinda looks a bit wack to me! What do those DJ's do when they play in the club? Do they plug in thier midi controller or just use the club equipment.. Each to their own I guess.. Just kinda seems a little limiting learning to use your own controller, and perhaps not being as versed in using a standard club set up as they should be..
(off topic - sorry)[/QUOTE]
I am going out on a limb here but i just cant get into the vibe of a party where a dj has his face stuck in a notebook all night ( no excuse for pumping out a bad mix either) just doesnt t do it for me ( i have been to a part where the "dj" was siting down in a chair ffs,Lame). As for clubs with equipment not working properly just dont play there or tell them to get it fixed.
Keep your TT's and your records, if your not sure if you should sell them then obviously you shouldnt!
slackas
21-Aug-09, 07:11am
I am going out on a limb here but i just cant get into the vibe of a party where a dj has his face stuck in a notebook all night ( no excuse for pumping out a bad mix either) just doesnt t do it for me ( i have been to a part where the "dj" was siting down in a chair ffs,Lame). As for clubs with equipment not working properly just dont play there or tell them to get it fixed.
Keep your TT's and your records, if your not sure if you should sell them then obviously you shouldnt!
I have scene a lot of dj's using midi controllers or DVS who have it set up well enough that that mearly have to glance at the scene for a few seconds while changing songs, and dont use the mouse at all (mouse + djing = fail IMO)
but i im with forenzic, i'm still not 100% with the idea of digital djing, i like my vinyl+CDJ's
TwoThirdsMajority
21-Aug-09, 09:37am
Hey look it's a Gen Y bashing thread!
This bloke should have just "practise and enjoy"
slackas
21-Aug-09, 09:43am
p.s. im not old
SlicyDicer
21-Aug-09, 10:01am
Don't sell your turntables, you're not a real DJ unless you own wax imo.
pEAkeR_hAT
21-Aug-09, 11:29am
Dont sell you turntables man, one day you will come back to them, trust !!
Funkedub
21-Aug-09, 11:57am
Can't scratch on the shellac though, so it doesn't count:-D
Hey I wonder if I can scratch on tape,, Hmmmm time to play!!!:hooray:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=088AWsTtTFU
Mental!!!
Punter like to watch what we do especially when you play vinyl, I think it’s a bit sad when we have to take the vinyl out of DJing!
Plus vinyl separated the men from the boys, It use to take DJ’s years to get the skills to play and in that time playing parties and doing mobile work you learnt how to play the crowd, these days any kid can learn how to mix (as long as they can count to 4) and this is part of the reason why 80% of DJ I see playing in clubs these days are absolute self-indulgent rubbish.
Modern DJ don’t seem to see the difference between DJing where you have to put your obsession aside and play the crowd and Producing where it is all about you and feeling the music. There is always the exception like genre DJ (techo, electro etc.) but for the most part the love of rocking the crowd has to override the need to play your favorite music (this is why we have gear at home)…
Loose the effects, loops, cd’s, laptops and channel eq at home, and then it’s just talent left to separate the DJ’s from the punters…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=088AWsTtTFU
Mental!!!
Thats nuts!!!!!:drool:
Funkedub
21-Aug-09, 12:24pm
innit!!
I wounder what i could do with one of my reel to reel players!
Punter like to watch what we do especially when you play vinyl, I think it’s a bit sad when we have to take the vinyl out of DJing!
Plus vinyl separated the men from the boys, It use to take DJ’s years to get the skills to play and in that time playing parties and doing mobile work you learnt how to play the crowd, these days any kid can learn how to mix (as long as they can count to 4) and this is part of the reason why 80% of DJ I see playing in clubs these days are absolute self-indulgent rubbish.
Modern DJ don’t seem to see the difference between DJing where you have to put your obsession aside and play the crowd and Producing where it is all about you and feeling the music. There is always the exception like genre DJ (techo, electro etc.) but for the most part the love of rocking the crowd has to override the need to play your favorite music (this is why we have gear at home)…
Loose the effects, loops, cd’s, laptops and channel eq at home, and then it’s just talent left to separate the DJ’s from the punters…
Seconded
I actually thought of running a DJ comp with just 3x SL1200 and a UREI 1620, BOZAK DL or a RANE MP24!
TwoThirdsMajority
21-Aug-09, 03:42pm
Don't sell your turntables.
If you're planning to use Traktor or Serato or Mixx/xwax, please use a vinyl. The functionality is better in vinyl than in CDJs.
Matty_neal
21-Aug-09, 04:44pm
I'm not selling them DURRRRRR
ChewbaccaKongDSp
14-Sep-09, 10:06pm
how much do you think you will get for them?
Matty_neal
15-Sep-09, 05:42pm
how much do you think you will get for them?
prolly like $8 each or something. EIGHT DOLLARS. :|
Treason
15-Sep-09, 06:16pm
Punter like to watch what we do especially when you play vinyl, I think it’s a bit sad when we have to take the vinyl out of DJing!
Plus vinyl separated the men from the boys, It use to take DJ’s years to get the skills to play and in that time playing parties and doing mobile work you learnt how to play the crowd, these days any kid can learn how to mix (as long as they can count to 4) and this is part of the reason why 80% of DJ I see playing in clubs these days are absolute self-indulgent rubbish.
Modern DJ don’t seem to see the difference between DJing where you have to put your obsession aside and play the crowd and Producing where it is all about you and feeling the music. There is always the exception like genre DJ (techo, electro etc.) but for the most part the love of rocking the crowd has to override the need to play your favorite music (this is why we have gear at home)…
Loose the effects, loops, cd’s, laptops and channel eq at home, and then it’s just talent left to separate the DJ’s from the punters…
Thirded ...wise words.
pipnosis
28-Sep-09, 01:54pm
Sell the dex man. The fact is the price of Technics is coming down all the time. Technics are the icon of DJing but you cant fight progress. 95% of all the old vinyl will never be played again.
If you ever want to go back there is loads of 1200s for sale all the time. Its not like technics are ver goingto become rare.
95% of all the old vinyl will never be played again.
:lol: 95% of current dance music will never be played again outside of the year it was made
pEAkeR_hAT
28-Sep-09, 02:22pm
lol, i only play tracks that are 10 years old tbh !
:lol: 95% of current dance music will never be played again outside of the year it was made
What a load of bollocks, this is the funniest thing I have read this year ( maybe you are solely referring to mp3 djs')
Dr Bones
28-Sep-09, 02:50pm
So I'm going to sell my soul
that sucks dude.
:lol: 95% of current dance music will never be played again outside of the year it was made
To make the quote accurate I'd expand it to say '95% of punters will not hear 95% of music outside of the year its written'
(Good) house music can get better with age. Acid was def better back in the day. Same with good loopy driving techno (oh how I miss you) (or would, if I knew you existed back then).
^^^ Agreed, and it is true that a large amount of the music in a DJ's bag today won't get played again after 6months unless he decided it is going to be one of his/her classics!
I actually thought of running a DJ comp with just 3x SL1200 and a UREI 1620, BOZAK DL or a RANE MP24!
That is an AWESOME idea.
Funkedub
28-Sep-09, 05:33pm
good loopy driving techno (oh how I miss you)
+1
mnml can byte me
been diggin' on this mandess again recently : http://www.discogs.com/Space-DJz-The-Last-DJz-On-Earth/release/8061
slackas
28-Sep-09, 05:43pm
^can you point me towards a decent good loopy driving techno livemix?
I cant, hook me up if you find one. Everything I find with the words 'driving' tend to be progressive.
For an artist, I've been digging Boriqua Tribez alot for ages, he has some weirdly funky yet pumping stuff! His Saga mix is still a favorite, check him out
That is an AWESOME idea.
Yeah, if i ever get motivated i'll do it!
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