The OLD feedback thread... Read and Learn!

[driload]

post your tracks HERE for feedback. by doing so you can be assured we will notice your post and it will keep the forums clean of too many "listen here" posts.


i might upload a rough mix for your viscious ears of something im working on tonight....

[dks49]

this thread is a good idea driload

[SWARM]

Newest track: "tractor driving motherfuckers" slamming bit of hard techno www.trip2space.com/tractorfukuz.mp3

more tracks at www.trip2space.com/mpfreedispenser.htm

[Tris]

******READ THIS FIRST!!!******
-to download the tracks, you have
to cut the address from below and
paste them in your browser, coz
clicking on the wont work!-
***************************

Also, yeh i know...25 seconds aint
much for a demo, its pretty weak!
mabey I will put the full tracks.
I didn't tweak these tracks up
especially the second one, dont
worry the normal song is less
repetative :P


http://home.iprimus.com.au/jensy/promos/Tristan Jens - promo (2).mp3

http://home.iprimus.com.au/jensy/promos/Tristan Jens - promo.mp3

[Tris]

Hey swarm, this track u posted is sik, BaNgIn' 4 sure! I can picture a big croud getting into this one, keep up the good work!

[EnglishBob]

Howdy

Feel free to have a listen to my new breaks track...

happy listening!

http://www.mp3.com.au/Thrust/

[dks49]

English Bob i like your style. That's a killer track u have there. Should give Bass Kleph a run for his money;)
What did you use to make it?

[EnglishBob]

Cheers for that. Obviously a bit nervous at putting my stuff "out there" for the first time but the reception has been really good so far.

The track is just made on Reason - with a bit of assistance from Re Cycle and Soundforge.

Anyway - I said a while ago that I'd send you a cd that includes my remix of 'Without Me' - I'll try and get it out to you this week..

Rob a.k.a Thrust a.k.a EnglishBob

[kenada]

Hey all, this is a track i wrote sometime ago, but I reckon she's a belter; this is if your into hard minimal electro tech? shit me that was a mouthfull, but if you listen to it u'll know exactly what I'm on about.

http://www.mp3.com.au/track.asp?id=22804

It's called InSIDios MOS 658I synthesis, and anyone who knows anything should know what thats all about.

Sorry to be such a leech, but here is another if you are still keen - It's a mellow tribal track I used to start a set.

It's called Plastikmans Dream, it takes a while to get going, but it's got quite nice builds.

listen here - http://www.mp3.com.au/track.asp?id=27723

One last thing, anyone on here who uses reason, and would like to have someone to review their RPS files, I would gladly do so in exchange for some constructive criticism on my own works. JUst much easier than D/L huge ass mp3s.

Cheers,

Scott.

[compressed]

kenada - had a listen to both of them...

"inSIDios - MoS 658I Synthesis" - some pretty neat sounds going on in there (go the c64!). i reckon it could do with maybe abit more rhythmic variation though (give it a little more of an electro feel), and the change 5:30 into the track jarred abit with me - too big a change out of nowhere in my view. also maybe trim it abit - not quite enough happens to justify 10 minutes. not talking drastic cuts, only need to maybe take out 2 minutes or so, get it round 8 minutes in length. heh this is coming off abit harsher than i intended, i quite enjoyed the track :)

"Plastikmans Dream" - very good set opener, builds nicely, nice use of effects on the tribal percussion. maybe a little filter work on the synth melody, just to create abit of movement? and change the title ;)

just my opinions on both of those of course....

[kenada]

he he, yeh the title - plastikmans dream was just a working title, that stuck. That was never meant to the the title for release, but i just got stumped - perhaps somthing about lucid dream or some shit like that. Just don't want all the trippers to think thats it's goa or anything like that.

with SID, the last five mins are really where the money is. That jarring break, is meant to be taken in a live mixed sense. At the time i wrote it, i was looking for more of a dj style rather than production style. I had been listening to a lot of Luke Slater and Jeff Mills. The thing with the last 5 esp. is that it's all really subtle, and that can often be lost with mp3 compression, well thems the breaks eh.

Thanks for the reviews anyways. I know how it is when you like a track but still have a lot to say, thats why i like receiving constructive criticism. At least it tells you somthing.

Cheers,

Scott

[compressed]

ok, time to put my neck on the line...

http://home.it.net.au/~aksen/bellsremix_-_run_1_demo_7.mp3

its a remix of jeff mills - the bells (thus: techno), done for a challenge on a mailing list i'm on. all remixes done for this are being burnt to CD and given to jeff himself, so i thought i should get some other opinions before making a fool of myself and uploading to the challenge ftp site.

written in cubase sx, bit of final editing in soundforge. this is the track i was having vst automation trouble with...

cheers in advance for any feedback...

[PAddLePoP]

What ya reckon guys?

http://www.mp3.com.au/nfx

Everyones fav seems to be Harmony In E, Extorsion 2002, Don't Let Go and Angel Light are also good..

[Dante]

I wouldn't mind some more people having a listen to my stuff...

I mainly produce tech-edged stuff, and feedback would be incredibly appreciated...

Check out bac_a1 first, it's my most recent track...

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

[taggis]

PaddlePop/NFX - your tracks are great!! Keep up the good work!! :)
Very Impressive...look forward to hearing more :)

[groove_child]

Hey all,

Well I've finally uploaded several tracks which I've been working on and am hoping for some feedback/reviews.

The tracks can be found at:

http://www.grooveasylum.net/groovechild/audio/

The following are available:

Clubber's Little Helper (trance)
Duck boy (Bangin' House)
Lifted (Trance)
That Bass Track (Trance/Bass)
Seduction (Trance/Electronica)

You can send emails to djgroovechild@djcentral.com

Hope you like and hope to see you at some gigs soon...

GC

[kenada]

I'll start by saying that I did like what you did with this, It's always a bit of a task to take a classic and rework it, whilst keeping your mix still original.

So Congrats are due there.

I am unsure about the breaks interlude, as brief as it maybe. But i love the bleeps they're great, the snare you are suing as your rhythm is the tek section seems a bit lightweight, too dry and thin.

The disc slips/rev sections you use to bring the beat back are as good as any I have ever heard. Nice use of reverb here also, this would have to be one of my fave effex, goes hand in hand with tek.

Yeah that snare is not quite right.
I like the ambience around 4:40, very nice.

Sorry this review was all over the place, but I was writing as i was listening.

Again, well done.

[sleepingMyDayAw]

the C word (http://www.mp3.com.au/smda/)

thanks in advance for any feedback

[phunkdust]

Originally posted by sleepingMyDayAw
the C word (http://www.mp3.com.au/smda/)

thanks in advance for any feedback

I downloaded "the C word"

in breif - musically its very good, i like the slow dubby vibe laced with the electronica sounds,

technically - it sounds a little "default" - are you using fruityloops? it sounds like a fruityloops track. dont be afraid to tweak and get some unique sounds. the mix is decent on good speakers, but it's perhaps lacking some dynamics - screw around with the levels, and tweak those drums and get some punch - use sharper more "modern" sounding drum kits rather than the acoustic rock sounding kit you've got happening currently - not that its bad, it's good but it needs a little punch - perhaps play with some compression/gating and some cutoff. the tribal kit sounds at the start are very good - perhaps pan that bongo a little?

i dont really like that rock-sounding drum roll tho... it doesnt quite fit... the stick-hit sound is good but make it slightly quieter and perhaps screw with the cutoff on each note to humanise it

the build into the main section is good, i like the dark electronic themes you're playing with. but once again it lacks dynamics and the beat seems to dissapear under the synth sounds...

the drop down to the tribal bit around 2:30 is good, so is the build up - but those snares just wont do, they sound rock, not electronic. make it dynamic and punchy

it's some very good work tho, how long have you been writing tracks?

if you're working in fruity (it sounds like you are) I can go over the track and do a remix for you... pm me for details on that.

[sleepingMyDayAw]

thanks for taking the time to go over it & putting down those helpful points.

i used reason1, & wanted to use some kind of snare roll without using something like 16ths>32nds>64ths, but wasn't aiming to end up with them having a rock feel. probably i've been listening to too much def leppard lately.

[N4TE]

anyone got some space I can upload to? so much for all the nice things I've said about mp3.com.au, I go to upload a track and it's dns error time five pages into the upload sequence. sick of waiting for a reply/fix.

cheers fukns,
nateski.

[phunkdust]

it was the actual sound of the kit, not the arrangement of the rhythm i was talking about when i said "rock"

[kenada]

Hmm, me thinks you like the space djz compilations? I am unsure about dropping a heavily delayed 3 step beat right at the start of a track. the track i like, but i am not sure about the breakouts, like the first one didn't work for me at all. The problem with mp3 is that I can't really comment on quality of production.

It sounds really 1994, like the BD, you know the sound i am talking about (i hope) Towards the 4 minute mark it starts firing, this is much better from here on. This is all just personal taste issues here, but you obviously write good tech, just didn't start off right fro me. yeah 4:51 thats fat shit. sounds badass.... Am I hearing the 808 congas towards the end?

Yeah sweet mate - just do somthing with the beginning....

[kenada]

Hey - Greedy little SOB ain't I. I just finished 2 new tracks - and was wondering if anyone would like to review these.

They are probably my most original and creatively challenging work to date.

The link for both tracks is -

http://www.mp3.com.au/album.asp?id=4537

Cheers, Scott.

[JRivarolo]

This track is a bit old now and im currently in the process of recording ALOT more. But if any of you feel up to this track out that i made.

To download:
http://www.musicbuilder.com/dloadcounter.asp?SongID=24545&VendorID=5354

To QuickPlay:
http://www.musicbuilder.com/dloadsamplecounter.asp?SongID=24545&VendorID=5354

Techno heading towards hard techno. Heavy bass with a mean and nasty loop. Some similarities to Chris Liebings stigmata sound.

[kaossproject]

Kenada,

Listened to your stuff on the minimal concept album (@ 22K on shitty speakers).

Some very deep-shit you got goin there dude !!!

The first track "A Sustaining Path" is very unique and complex, though, I am not fond of the kick timing (personal pref?), although with the kick timing you got it would make a good intro track or layered under another track (as in 2/3 deck DJ mixing). Perhaps someone like Carl Cox or Sven Vath could use it wisely.

The second track was of a "lighter" mood and seemed more melodic. The sort of track that seeps into your conciousness and takes you without leaving stain. Flows.

I must also say that you are starting to get a unique flavour with your latest tracks and they have matured some more........

Glen
(HoloTropiK).

[keith909]

Hello.

Yeah I been working on a few trance tracks I produced using Reason (great prog!). You can check them out at my homepage http://www.simply.com.au/~kmcmurray

Check them out. Some even have a femal vocalist. I'm particularly proud of my recent track "Unbelieve" so be sure to check that one.

If you like them or have any comments just email me, I love to get feedback.

Thanks,

Keith909

[phunkdust]

Keith...

about Unbelieve -

this is excellent, awesome ibiza-style vocal trance... reminds me a lot of the chicane/clannad stuff. awesome effort.

criticisms - it sounds a tad cheesy, mostly the strings at the start... try a different intro perhaps? the track is mixed well and the dynamics are very sharp (despite the shitty mp3)

it sounds a little thin sometimes, like you're relying on the vocals too much to carry the track... about 1:20 sounds good, nice thick full sound there... but thats just a personal preference

the vocals are good, i really like your vocalist's style.. she fits the trance style without being overpowering. vocals are one of the hardest things to do right in a track. they do sound a little thin, like you're using high and low shelving filters. they aren't particularly dynamic. are you using a lot of compression there? it sounds like it. what i'd do with the vocals - first of all, put some stereo space - at the moment the vocals are mono and sound a little dull, so widen up that stereo by panning the vocals slightly left or right. specific vocal techniques i would try - get your vocalist to bring sustained notes up into a crescendo, this usually sounds good. In parts of the song, try using a vocal harmony. at around 2:40 when she sings "the blue is calling" I'd use that same echo + telephone effect like you've used at 1:30

and dont forget to use a pop filter! i can really hear those syllibants in the mix and it does sound unprofessional.

that arp at 2:40... i reckon you should bring up the delay/reverb/sustain progressively so its really taking up all the "room" in the mix then bring it back to normal before you bring the beat back in.

as a general thing, the mix sounds a little dry, especially the vocals... play around with that reverb to make it sound more epic.

but yes, excellent work. I'll be listening to more of your tracks soon.

/end of $0.02

[Mnemonic]

Rightio i have some tunes on acid planet under the name of Dj Real?st Check it and let me know your thoughts guys
http://www.acidplanet.com./Lounge/lounge.asp?G=76&C=

"war" and "panic"

[Impact]

I think I might throw caution to the wind and post one of my tracks. This was written earlier this year (I think it was initially inspired by Dave Clarke's blinder of a set @ Bohem).

http://www.mobiusmusic.net/tracks/fear.mp3

Opinions, criticisms, advice?

[N4TE]

*sigh* they wouldn't host the mix with the sample in it from the matrix (a long one, goes in the breakdown) and it was made on a playstation, so don't take it too seriously, but anyway, you can find my track "simple song" here (http://www.mp3.com.au/track.asp?id=35143). Feel free to bag it just because it's mine, I'll understand. :P

[kenada]

Gezz mate, your lucky you even got me to download this song. Not only did the link you provide send me to some generic archive of new songs (which incidently didn't contain any of yours) Once I searched for your song and was ready to download, I had to friggin register. Not happy... :|

He he, I likes the sample at the start. I have seen that movie to many times to mention. When that drum roll drops at 36s, and then ends into me, me, me it seems a touch outta time. Just a touch... Hmm nearly every time there is a vocal added to the track - the timing of the songs goes out. Like at 1:44 - PANIC, How have you added these vocal to the song? Maybe 32 bars without any sort of change is a touch too long, even a slight transpose would have changed it up a little.

This was a firly low grade mp3, so there may have been subtle changes i did't pick up on. I liked your acid leads though, they were good, but perhaps a little frequency bending would have been good, to really bring it to life.

[kenada]

Well no messin about here - straight into it... :tripping:

I likes your bassline, nice one there... But the rest of the track seems like it could have been written about the same time as that Happiness by Pizzaman, like the hats and kick sound really dated. There is not enough variance in this, you need to put some more rhythms in.

Yeah sorry mate, but that was just going on a bit towards the end there...

[kenada]

Hmm, as I scroll up the page and read my most recent reviews, I start to notice that some of you may be thinking that, either:

a) I am very hard to please
b) I reckon I am the shit
c) I am just a hard ass bastard that likes being mean to people.

Well in actuality I am none of these and very far from it. I am not here to blow smoke up peoples asses.

In all the time I have been writing music nearly every time I give my songs to my mates to listen to the only response I get is "thats great" That doesn't help me at all. So I would prefer to hear what can be changed about a sonmg rather than, ahh thats fantastic. Bacause if that were really true we would all be signed, right?

So I guess what I am trying to say here is that I am just expressing my opinions, and trying not to offend anyone in the process.

One more thing - If you really want reviews/feedback yourself, it doesn't hurt to give a few out before you start asking....

[phunkdust]

Hah, Nate, very cool... Actually I'm surprised you can sqeeze a sound like that out of a playstation. Nice dark techhy thing happening there.

and while kenada isn't a hard bastard, I am. I don't bother with a track unless I can download a full 128kbit quality MP3, at a decent speed, without having to sign up to something (like acidplanet, Mnemonic)

[agdjrex]

"Rok da House"

www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=146090&q=Hi

[phunkdust]

this is not bad. thats some pretty nice booty-shaking bass there, and it's good dancable music, my only qualms is it sounds a little formulaic - ie lets run with this beat for 16 bars and say "rock the house" every 4 bars then drop in a 909 snare roll, rinse, and repeat.

it also needs to be about 3 BPM slower, because its a very danceable sound, but its kinda fast unless you're expecting everyone to be on speed.

unless you want to make this track more interesting, it's about 2 minutes too long. nice sound, very repetative.

[phunkdust]

This kind of music isn't really my style, I can't review it too well without getting annoyed at it :P I'm more of a trance/house/downbeat person. ;D

It certainly has a big sound to it, but perhaps its a little repetative, theres this synth sample you bring in like once every minute, i cant really describe it, but it sounds like some heavily reverbed dark-hoover-type synth sound... This sounds really cool, I reckon you should use it more and perhaps evolve its sound throughout the track...

I'd ask my fellow reviewers to add something a little more helpful than what i can say! ;D

[theroger]

Hey guys,

just getting into making my own trax, so would love to hear what you all think.

opinions, criticism, advice........all wanted.

made solely with reason 2.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/sirkus.htm

thanks
cj

[N4TE]

Nice job on the feedback, Phunkdust and Kenada. With my home link a temporary non-entity, I'm glad someone has the time to listen to and criticise these tracks here with something resembeling consistancy and even-handed aplomb.

Phunk, dark? that's airy. I can send you dark *grin*

[kenada]

Yeah N4TE, thats what I would want to receive from others. Sorry I didn't DL your track, but when I saw it was done on a playstation.... (you know) ;)

Umm, Phunk - you want to check out one of my tracks? I can suggest either of the newies of the koncept album, they're both worthy.

PS - to anyone who has listened to my new stuff, am I in fantasy land when I have aspirations of getting some sort of rekkid deal next year? :blush:

[phunkdust]

kenada - i'll have a listen sometime soon...

i am a very busy little bee currently and i've been meaning to catch up with all the tracks that get posted in this thread. never fear, i'll get on to that soon. ;D

[djenerate]

Good 2 c locally we're moovin on,
fruity's, use it luv it, who else is
using it?

djen

[Phibbler]

Gets my thumb of approve.
downloaded, and put on the "phibbler megamix cd vol 5"....straight to the car :)

it is long .... but really sweet use of the sid station, and i love the change up at 5:30. Would love a shorter version bout 7 mins long

[Phibbler]

I've had a listen to one of you tracks before i think, only it probbably wasn't this one.
As for this one?

It's shweet... the Bass totally cremated the crappy little headphones i'm wearing now (internet cafe). Still quite sweet.

It kinda of destroys it for me though hearing the same snares and hats that i always use as a scratch pad for breaks... nevermind.

Nice programming... sweet little blippy thingy you got going.

[future_eater]

www.zebox.com/than


Drum n bass..

[fezzwah]

New breaks track :)

click here (http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=211788&T=7846)

[EnglishBob]

Mate - it cuts out every 3 seconds. I got pissed off with it after 4 stops and didn't even get past the intro. I'd suspect a lot of people won't bother if its hard to listen to.

Have you tried posting on mp3.com.au? You only get to hear in pretty crappy quality but at least you get the whole track in one hit - even with a 56k modem.

I'd try that - then you'll probably get some constructive feedback. People on this forum are really good that way....

Rob

http://www.mp3.com.au/Thrust

[fezzwah]

sorry bout that

click here (http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=211788&T=5218)

[phunkdust]

this is very good stuff, especially love that beep sound that opens the track. good use of instruments and samples.

maybe the track is a bit too long? 8:52 for a breaks track? maybe needs to be a tad shorter or maybe a couple of BPM faster?

i think the actual break beat needs to be a bit more dynamic - that kick doesnt sound quite right, it sounds more like a 4/4 club kick rather than a breaks kick... it's level is up a little too high too - it really tends to take over the track

the reverb is up way too high. the reverb sounds good but you need to control the amount of it because currently it makes your track sound muddy... reduce the wet a little.

you have some great elements in this track, but they need to change and evolve more - a "bridge" section with a different form of that beat could go down well - generally the track needs to be a little more interesting.

play with a little compression and/or overdrive on the beat - the idea is not to have a distorted clip, but to have the snare and hat sounds clipping slightly to make them nice and crisp

other than that, fix up the dynamics and reverb use, and it's a pretty good track.

[phunkdust]

mmm, very nice atmospheric dnb you have there, just the right mix of moods to have a nice flowing track, and the length is perfect.

but, it's supposed to be drum and BASS? where's the bass? I had the EQ boosting the bass by about 8dB and there still wasnt enough bass!

the mix generally is too "tappy" - you've got a lot of clicking and tapping noise from the hats and snares and that very punchy kick... make the kick more mellow (use a lowpass) and perhaps bring the snares and hats back a little (volume) and bring up the bass (volume)

it would benifit a little from some textures and sound fx to break up the basic patterns

very good tho, keep it up.

[Mnemonic]

rightio i got some tracks ranging from acid trance to d'n'b.

I got remixs on the way but this is a few of the tunes we drop in some clubs up north. Kinda old but we have some more on the way

;D
http://www.acidplanet.com./artist.asp?songs=139992&T=3354

[Mnemonic]

Yeah sorry about my post awhile ago as i posted the wrong link where you had to register, but the above one is good, sorry bout that phunkdust.:blush:

I dont know much about d'nb but i gave it ago, so be harsh. Only way to progress.

[fezzwah]

Originally posted by phunkdust
this is very good stuff, especially love that beep sound that opens the track. good use of instruments and samples.

maybe the track is a bit too long? 8:52 for a breaks track? maybe needs to be a tad shorter or maybe a couple of BPM faster?

i think the actual break beat needs to be a bit more dynamic - that kick doesnt sound quite right, it sounds more like a 4/4 club kick rather than a breaks kick... it's level is up a little too high too - it really tends to take over the track

the reverb is up way too high. the reverb sounds good but you need to control the amount of it because currently it makes your track sound muddy... reduce the wet a little.

you have some great elements in this track, but they need to change and evolve more - a "bridge" section with a different form of that beat could go down well - generally the track needs to be a little more interesting.

play with a little compression and/or overdrive on the beat - the idea is not to have a distorted clip, but to have the snare and hat sounds clipping slightly to make them nice and crisp

other than that, fix up the dynamics and reverb use, and it's a pretty good track.

Thanks for the feedback Phunkdust!! That's probably the most constructive I've heard yet. Agreed on the Reverb and Kick front! Cheers

[phunkdust]

I can't stand HC so I'll take this drum&bass track for a spin...

Nice opening! reminds me of Squarepusher. That breakdown where you bring in the bass is awesome. I'm thinking maybe you should "tease" a little, and only drop in little bits of bass until you hit your main section where you have all your bass coming in full. "waiting for the bass" and finally having it drop in in a big way is the coolness factor in a DNB track.

The breakbeat sample is good but it needs to be a little louder. The bass samples are good too, but I think you need to mix them around (back spins, chops, hard pans) and also the volume of the bass needs to be a bit lower since it's saturating the track too much.

Bits like at 2:40 where you play around with the bass, this sounds awesome but could do with a little panning (ie bring bass quickly from L to R for example) just to mix it up a bit and make things interesting.

Other than that, get the levels right (the beat should drive the track, not the bass) and it will be supurb.

[Mnemonic]

Thanx for the review phunkdust. I'll give my track a reworking with your suggestions. Posting it on acid planet is a waste of time if your looking for critical comments to improve your music.

[phunkdust]

I've noticed that while I've been here reviewing other peoples tracks for quite a long time, that none of you have actually heard anything that I have done...

Well I've been working hard on my new musical project, just sorting out legalities and such before I start putting full complete tracks online.

Here's a little taste of it however - I put this little thing together in about 15 minutes last night. It contains three "Synth1" virtual analogue synths as VSTi, one Absynth VSTi, an 808 boom sample i generated, and the beat I made on my 5-piece drumkit and recorded with 2 SM58 mics. After that I put the lot together on my laptop (p3/600) and slapped on some FX

It's a sort of Chemical Brothers-esque epic break sound.

It's only 19sec long so it's not a big hassle to download.

http://www.websamba.com/phunkfromitm

(not sure how long that will last... i need a proper server!)

[PAddLePoP]

Ok everyone, its me, NfX again.

I got some good news and some bad news. The good news is that I got picked up by Prodigy Marketers ( who have done stuff with ITM apparently), got Nova FM radio play and won the best new artist award voted by you guys on the Rush electronica show, also Central Station is showing intrest in my work.

The bad news is that I lost all of my data which has made me remake all my songs ( which looking at optimistically is a golden opportunity to make my songs better)

Well I have done Harmony In E and the feed back I have gotten was excellent, I am really pleased with how that track has progressed (For those who dont remeber it was the Epic medolic trance track with the cool piano melody which has now turned into a harder trance track). If you guys want I will post a link to the New Harmony In E so you can check it out, but I am here to get your opinion on my latest track (or the redo of it) High Fidelity.

Ok so I have taken a different style with this one and turned it into a NRG track. Please tell me, is it worth to be called NRG in the first place or is it just supped up Hard Trance? Whats your opinions on it? Damn awful? Should I not quit the day job ?

Here is the link: http://members.optushome.com.au/netadmin/High%20Fidelity%20%5bNRG%202002%5d.mp3

Thanks guys alot, you have been a great help to me in the past. I look forward to hearing what you think (Try not to be too harsh )

Thanks,
Nick
NfX

[PAddLePoP]

Here is the link for Harmony In E

http://members.optushome.com.au/netadmin/Harmony%20In%20E%20%5bFinal%20Edit%5d.mp3

[Tax Invoice]

Phunk!!!! -Mah Main Man! Farken excellent piece of work.
Are you sure you recorded those drums yourself? Very nice indeed. I'm jealous!

Sort of Chem's meet Crystal Method. I'd love to hear this piece in it's entirety, as this excerpt sounded quite busy. Is this the crescendo?

If anything... More Bass please!

All in all, a very impressive little piece considering it was "slapped together in 15 mins!" -Does this include recording the drum loop?

Love it.

[phunkdust]

yah i mic'ed up the kit and recorded it - i also recorded a couple of one shots and used them to chop up the beat slightly. it's got a fair bit of distortion added to it and it's been stretched a little.

What you hear is all there is at the moment... When I get around to it i'll turn it into a song.

[Tax Invoice]

Originally posted by phunkdust
When I get around to it i'll turn it into a song.

Great!

By the way, I spoke to publishing last week who advised I could only place snippets of tracks up. So, I went to do this and bloody MP3.com.au prevented it. Stating full trax must be posted.:?

Anyway, a copy of some stuff will be in the mail next week phunkdust.

[redmond_herring]

So, I went to do this and bloody MP3.com.au prevented it. Stating full trax must be posted.

just fade it in, fade it out and call it the "radio edit".... people who know whats what will tell its obviously just a section of a larger track anyhoo....

:) :p :lol:

[phunkdust]

FUCK!

phunkdust gurns :offchops:

This is simply amazing, it's got all the good qualities of trance yet doesnt sound cheesy. It's not really NRG in my opinion (NRG annoys me, but i like this track) but that kick certainly makes it sound hard

if you're not on a MOS hard trance compilation in the next year or two i'd be wondering why...

only thing i can suggest is bring that reverb back a little... i always favour a cleaner sound over a dirtier one - and most people listen on speakers resulting in natural reverb...

when's the album coming out? i want a copy!

[PAddLePoP]

wow thats phunkdust!!!

The album should be early next year hopefully!!

Also, did you get a chance to check Harmony In E? If so what did you think of the latest mix?


Oh and yeah I agree with the Reverb, I have toned it down. Thanks so much for the feedback!!!

[phunkdust]

yeah I checked Harmony in E... I like the new version much better!

[PAddLePoP]

I uploaded another one of my newies for you guys to check out when you have the time.

Its called Subsonic and you can get it here: http://members.optushome.com.au/netadmin/SubSonic.mp3 Its uplifting trance I think, like ibiza style with a piano lead melody (Similar to Harmony In E)

I hope you like it.

Nick

PS It may be cheesy, I aint really sure but if it is bleh i dont care I like it. Lol! ;)

[Serotone]

Click Me (http://members.optusnet.com.au/serotone/Serotone%20-%20Allie.mp3) to hear a dnb number...

this is my FIRST proper attempt at writing drum and bass in about 5 years...i had a short stint of it a few years back but it was only a few loops....

Feedback .... please..... :)

edit: btw yes I know the pitch bends aren't exactly spot on time, but I cbf doing it again :P I just wanted a track to listen to in the car

[Serotone]

Nice shit there....

What do you use? Ie are you computer based, hardware based, or both?

The first two tracks were a touch 'messy' (or dirty)....as phunk pointed out it could have been the reverb...things just sounded a little too full. However that isn't a bad thing, as it oculd very well by the mp3 itself..

That last track is a lot cleaner...clean is good :)

Good to hear about u getting picked up....who are you dealing with at central station?

[PAddLePoP]

Well these people in Sydney called Prodigy Markets picked me up to be my managers. They contacted Central Station because they have close ties with them and told me Central Station was very interested once I get my album to them, they wanted to get me in a studio and have some people record vocals to my tracks.

I am only starting to get back into my music because it was on hold for a few months over year 12 exams but now I have heaps of time to spend on it!

Yeah I use Reason 2.0 and I have a controller keyboard. I would be gettig more stuff but I am too poor!!!

Wow serotone, means alot to have a review from you, I always have looked up to you, I remeber seeing you live and you were fantastic! Thanks so much!

Nick

[phunkdust]

Very nice work for a first-try DnB! It does have the definate feel of a DnB track written by a techno composer tho...

It's very loud in the midrange, and I think you're trying to be too melodic at the end with the "ooh" choir sample...

The crazy bass pitchbending sounds good but i think it needs a little lowpass so it's not intruding into the midrange... it also needs a LOT more bass... i know you've got a "back-up" bass down low (sounds about 40hz) but i think it would benifit if you made the main hoover bass more of a bass and less of a synth aspect... if that makes sense?

nice beat... chop it from time to time, sure its cool to have a big driving constant beat (aka oldschool UK) but it needs to change up every so often...

overall it needs more of the quirks that make DNB fun - sudden hard pans and fast chops, snare rolls and hits... change it up and make it unique in it's mixing style...

have a listen to "Dimensions" by Decoder & Substance... similar feeling to your track... but pick up on the mixing technique they use...

[phunkdust]

Another excellent work here...

Nice piano intro - but I think you've milked enough out of the Robert Miles dream trance thing already... it's good but if you keep using it, it's going to get old... 8-)

The big synth stabs at the start are good, it gets big, but at the right time. The return of the piano solo is good here.

What i would call the main drive at around 2:49 - this is great, but it needs to be longer... The way you've got it at the moment is great for a radio edit, but in a club you need to have the main drive longer so the kiddies have something to dance to 8-)

Personally i think it needs two versions... radio edit at about 4:30 in length, and a club version, maybe 7 minutes... ditto that for most of your tracks actually.

On the technical side, well we've already sorted out that funny panning thing on MSN - for those who have been listening to the track, theres a funny glitch meaning that the right channel is delayed by about 1.5ms, giving a left-pan effect.

I'm not sure why Reason is doing that, you'll just have to track it down.

It's a little muddy, use a high-shelf EQ at 1500Hz, boosting by about 3dB - this should clean it up a little.

The compressor is way too high, you can hear it really breathing loudly - lower the gain, and reduce the ratio. I think you said to me the release was on 0... this needs to be brought up to a suitiable level. I'd give you proper values to use but Reason has a 0-100 range rather than exact values.

[House of God]

Hey guys/gals....

Ive put my most recent songs up on a mp3.com.au....its taken me a while to finish it so im finally telling yas.

Id appreciate opinions and the time it takes for yas to just have a listen while you surf the net....

Im shoked at the amount of downloading of songs so far...like 7 downloads (as opposed to streams) and they have only been up like 2 days.

well its here..

www.mp3.com.au/houseofgod

cheers.

Kirk

[PAddLePoP]

I'm listening now!

Also I put another of my songs up. Its called Tommorow and featutures me (;D) saying "Will tommorow ever come?" lolllL!!!!!

anyways here it is:
http://members.optushome.com.au/netadmin/tommorow%201.mp3

Thanks guys I am so valuing the feedback i am getting!!!!!

[PAddLePoP]

Hey

Just finished listening to "attack"

I like it, reminds me kinda of early 90's hardcore. Good sounds and I enjoyed the track even tho it isnt my fav style of music. I feel at some parts there is too much distortion however but hey its all in the style!!! Also does the track end a bit suddenly or is that just mp3.com.au??

Good job man!

Nick

[PAddLePoP]

I really love this track. please tell me that main sorta acidy synth that was playing
chords and sounds a bit like the chicane one is a reason patch, you have to send it too me!!! :D

good work

Nick

[phunkdust]

I think you generally have good intentions (musically speaking) but you need to learn a few things...

Mixing technique is one - your levels arent right - you've often got one thing intruding on the other sonically, and it doesnt sound quite right

You also tend to bring in samples when they dont quite fit - like in Tribal Ground at the start where the beat keeps stopping and starting and you keep using that stab sample there... Good transitions are the key to writing good dance music, and at the moment your songs sound disjointed at times.

I'm trusting that these are old tracks and that with your new programs and gear you'll get better.

Just quickly over the tracks

Tribal Ground - It has a promising start (it feels like it wants to evolve into a big badass prog track) but then you bring in this random nylon guitar sample, and then suddenly switch to a dirty 303 sound, then start bringing in a house synth. Already you've mixed together samples from 3 different genres in the space of a minute or two. How disjointed do you want to make it? Pick a style and stick with it. Added to this you bring everything together at the end, and frankly dude, it's a mess. Scrap it, start again.

Re-Awaken - Nice start, IMHO it's NQR - i think you shouldnt put breaks between the synth samples. The next section is OK but there isnt a transition to link the two - you need a breakdown/buildup to join the two sections. That continual banging sound (sounds like a bunch of low snares together) just doesnt suit... leave it out, let the track "run" properly.

Peace In Unity - Get rid of that noisy harsh synth sound at the start - it's not doing anything for the track. The start sounds better just with the beat, then that trance synth sound that comes in at 0:36. Good transitions and themes from here... that little "waa" synth stab sounds good tho. I dont think that little breakbeat sample really works, (you bring it in every couple of bars in the mid section) Main drive is good, then the 303 line that comes in at about 2:40 then the quick drop back into the beat. This sounds good.

Unstopable - Unfortunately this track WAS stoppable (MP3.COM.AU's streaming fucking around) Good start, good transitions and that spooky little trance synth there, but then you bring in that "ugly" 303 sound with the beat, and it sounds a little to harsh... 1:25 with that buildup, you brought in the beat 1 bar too early dude... After this you drop out that one synth sound and bring in another - DIS-FUCKING-JOINTED! Learn to use transitions!

Attack - Good start... the piano is too loud tho. It doesnt sound quite right - ie the chords dont sound quite right.

Okay... stopping here... Tired! 8-)

HoG, do some learning, and re-invent yourself

Listen to PAddLePoP's tracks - LEARN from this guy, he's cutting it better than *I* do, and he's only 18.

[PAddLePoP]

OMG phunkdust you flatter me!!!!!!!!!!!! /me blushes

here is the fixed link for my song "tommorow" sorry I stuffed it up befor :D

http://members.optushome.com.au/netadmin/Tommorow%201.mp3

[House of God]

Cheers for all that guys...

Phunk: Re Tribal Ground.......your right on the money mate......you know how things seem like a good idea at the time? well that was one of those times...

Unfortunately i am unable to really redo any of the tracks (UNLESS i get very lucky) as i lost the lot and well im just lucky that i wasnt all that thrilled with my work thus far.

Unstopable...yeah im guessin your right on basically all of the reviewing........

In regards to the new tracks...well hehehehehehehe....

Its taking me a lot of load and off time....meaning i am all excited and about an hour later i have no idea what ive done......i still cant use VSTi's even tho i have a few....

Its a steep learning curve BUT i have found that i usually work better with it, and it means more in the end.

Ive got 1 song at the moment which is about 1-2/3rds finished...but im starting to fuck it up a bit so i have to try and get back to basics.

One of my BIGGEST floors currently is using too many sounds as you prolly know......i am slowly weaning myself of it (you can check out E-Scape on the cd whcih was my second song and see what i mean) BUT i would benifit greatly from listening to more dance music.....as i dont really listen to music infact maybe all of 10-40mins total a week (mum hates it and she owns the house)....

Ive been spending alot of my time the last few months doing remix stuff...as that is prolly a good bread and butter earner and name maker for the begining of a career (once i master the art)......BUT i must tell you i am VERY excited about begining a second album:)

Having learnt a little from my first....and having a little more creative control now, it will be fun...BUT i dont think i will really start until i get my self a keyboard of some type...as i love piano/synth type music...and a Mic......i REALLY want to make some vocal songs....

Ok well cheers guys

Kirk

[jim-e]

hey guys

this is a hard breaks track me and a friend of mine are working on:

http://members.optusnet.com.au/revpacman/Intorsion.mp3

crank it!!!

any feedback would be well wikkid :)

[phunkdust]

remember kids, it's always nice to review other people's music before you ask for reviews of your own music...


cheers guys...

[PAddLePoP]

I don't know much about breaks but I liked what I heard with your song. What did you use to make it ?

I liked the 303 type melody, the only part i didnt like was the stirngs. i dunno the chords just didnt sound right to me.

Anyways top stuff mate!

Nick

[Tax Invoice]

I love a good dose of breaks, but I really do have a problem with breaks becoming this hard & fast as the groove & feel normally associated with breakbeats is totally lost.

Don't get me wrong though, it's a nicely written track. Intro is superb and that 303-ish sound sneaks in very nicely. Had me boppin' at my desk.

The phaser/flanger effect two thirds in is a little twee, but only as it's over-the-top. You have stated you're still working on it though, so can't wait to hear the final result.

8-)

[jim-e]

thanks for the feedback paddlepop. yeah the strings take a little getting used to especially if you haven't heard much dark drum and bass or evil breaks. hehehe we like the 303 too *drool* if only we had a real one! for intortion, we used cubase sx for sequencing, reaktor 3.05 for synths and an akai mpc2000xl for the drums which ran through reaktor effects (for the flanger etc)

cheers tax invoice, not sure what you meant about the twee flanger - do you mean it sounds a bit cheesy? :D as for the beat, i understand what you mean about the groove being lost, we still have to clean it up a fair bit cause it sounds pretty messy at the moment. this song is the peak of our set at the moment, so we want it pretty hard and fast 8-)

[jim-e]

fark yeah man!!! wikkid tune dude, nice and evil, thats how i like it. the rolling bassline is quite cool, but like phunkdust said it needs more bass. some variations on the beat wouldnt go astray either. it tends to drag on a little bit in the second half, so maybe bring in a new instrument or a contrasting section.. something to keep the punters on their toes. mixing wise, the reverse reverb vocal effect thingy before the beat drops is a little bit too loud, but apart from that the levels are pretty spot on. tops effort, make sure you post some more songs hey, im definately keen for a listen. also, what name do you play live under? and when's your next gig? :D

[jim-e]

very nice dream trance stuff man. i like the robert miles-y piano, the reverb sounds nice, possibly a little too much. the snare build ups are a little overpowering, but i like the concept. with the trance synth sections that contrast the piano, the synth could be turned up a fair bit - it sits back a fair bit in the mix, and when it's the main line, you want the punters to be able to hear it! although this could just be the speakers im listening to it on - you write music for the speakers you are working on. maybe try seeing how it sounds on other peoples speakers, or even some phat monitors in a music shop :D other than that, tidy work man!

[redmond_herring]

Nick,

The thing that shits me.... the thing that REALLY shits me.. is that if only there was a surefire way to slip a cdr of this to Ferry Corsten, you'd be able to buy yourself a nova/virus/karma/nord whatever and get something back from the hours of toil you've obviously put in since the early stages when you were posting links for us to check out.

Your engineering has improved dramatically (Phunk is the man keeping watch over you here..:-) ) but moreso, you have a natural songwriting ability above the huge majority of "epic trancing-reason using prodigys" I've heard before. The sequences before and after the chorus are always spot on, and the chord structure lovely.

I enjoy your tracks, havent heard a dud yet, but "Tommorrow" is def. my favourite. Magic - just the right blend of hard edge rhythm and emotional, 'wasps in the jar' trance. Cheese or not, this is a marketable, commercialised sound and you've nailed it.

What I was meaning earlier was that I genuinely feel this work is on par with anything big-time DJ's like Ferry would play - and incidently - produce!

I'm playing at Trancendence Psy-Party on Friday in town, few harder trance dj's there also so I'll give it a crack live, and take it to work tommorrow (no pun) and listen though some juicy monitors and a 10k Martin Audio setup...... BANG!

Best of luck with the future, bout time the Aussie Trance Massive made some serious waves.

;-)

Jono.

[PAddLePoP]

Wow thanks so much Jono, that would kick ass.

Can you send me some info about the party? I would love to come!!

Thanks so much for the input!

[House of God]

Well i wasnt going to listen (not cause of you or anything but due to the downloading time...8mb is alot)

BUT im glad i did...and after seeying Jono's review thought i would.

1/2hr later.....

Brilliant work....not much more to say, Jono said it all.

Cheers kirk.

[SWARM]

here is something for all you perverts out there...

www.trip2space.com/pervertiam.mp3

good, solid 145bpm'er with lots of percussion and a twisted collection of samples

let me know what u think.

[compressed]

ok...

the percussion is pretty well done, nice arrangement and sounds. however i think it gets too repetitive - vast sections of the track have essentially the same 4 beat loop playing with little/no changes. a few little variations here and there would help in my opinion.

a bassline of some kind i think would fill out the track abit more as well. nothing big/complex/dominating, something basic, just to compliment the drums.

now, the vocal samples...to be honest i found them irritating in the end - i think you over-use them. i think if they were used more sparingly they'd have greater effect. if you are going to repeat them over and over, i'd try using some effects over them, just to provide more colour to the sound - even something as cliched as filtering them would provide abit of movement in the track.

its also maybe 1/1.5 minutes too long - the track doesn't vary enough in my opinion to justify its 7 minute length.

well, there you go, my honest opinion. hope it doesn't sound too harsh, but i always believe in giving honest (and hopefully constructive) criticism, its the only way we can all improve as artists :)

[NIL vs]

Pop of the land Paddle,

The tracks I listened to are awesome. Great melodies, great production and just great feel.

I *want your RSN2 synth preset*, especially the hooverish HardTrance filtered job in Tomorrow about 2/3 through (just before the breakbeat)....tasty.

Slight overdoing the reverb and tidying up the percussion was about my only advice but you've certainly captured a slick full sound that I still have trouble with.

lovely stuff indeed.

I'd be thinking female vocalist......



;D (couldn't get much else to work on this thread but i'll keep trying)

[djswitch]

http://www.mp3.com.au/djswitch

2 tracks for review

tech house & electrobreaks

for lisence & release 2003

[phunkdust]

um just thought i'd mention that if anyone is looking for a review from myself but hasnt got one yet, feel free to remind me by PM. I sometimes dont get around to doing everyone's track 1st time around (time, server fukups, etc)

[phunkdust]

the sustaining path

i like that 'dishy' sound at the start... im thinking in the intro (before the beat) it needs a bit of reverb and cycling pans (L-R-L-R, etc) to sorta set up an atmosphere.

the second synth is good (the one that has a bouncing pan) and I also really like that 44-gallon drum snare, and the other little spooky hits around here... this part of the song (4:30) sounds really sharp.

From here the buildup and finale are well arranged and sound good.

Engineering - well, I was listening on headphones, so I'm thinking some of the little background hits might need to be brought up a little. There isnt enough stereo information. I know that the techno style calls for a heavily compressed mono sound, but in sections where you're running a lot of sounds at once you're starting to lose dynamics and clarity.

Dynamics are generally good, percussion hits and snares need to be a little louder to give it some rythym. Mastering FX and compression are about right. The delay on the kick, the feedback *might* need to come down a little - its not a big issue, more of a mastering issue than a musical one. On home setups and headphones its fine, but if it gets played on a PA you might find the natural reverb tends to make the kick mushy. Whole mix needs a little treble boost... maybe 1dB high shelf at 3k, then up to 2dB at 8k? this brings out the midrange percussion and cleans up the highs...

Overall it's excellent, musically spot on, engineering very good

3rd Gear

I like the "Jaws" style intro... very nice, and the way you drop it into the main beat, fark that sounds niiiice!!! Triplet-techno can often sound formulaic and unoriginal but you've used it in just the right amounts and made it sound very good.

I don't know how you managed to crack the arranging, but the way you've done it, it keeps driving without getting old. I feel like jumping up and doing some mad crazed tribal dance!

Engineering - excellent, no problems here

[phunkdust]

Awesome...

Nice intro and fade to 303 line (which is pretty slick too... it's a cliche to use a 303 line like this but it sounds great) Excellent drop into the beat, gotta love 808 booms (one of my favourite)

The roll where you bring in the ride/hat line, the ride/hat needs to be a bit louder

The beat i think needs to have changes - notice how the kick goes "da..... da-da-da.. da" do this for one bar then next bar remove one of the kicks so it goes "da..... da- .. -da.. da" if that makes any sense :)

Nice roll into the string section. And that rolling dnb-style bass! Excellent! I like how you're venturing into the sub-bass range. A lot of producers are afraid to use sub bass.

Nice pattern changes and progessions from here. The big buildup at (2:30) is especially good.

I think the beat needs to be more dynamic - like really cracking and vicious.

The flanger effect - nice one, but I think it goes twice as long as it should. The flanger on the buildup shouldnt be there, considering that you've got that synth sound with the flange on it straight after the buildup (3:54) big flanges :) are good, but watch how much you use them... :)

the 808 booms in the buildup (4:22) are too loud. You're going to end up blowing someones speakers (especially if they use a bassboost) it's also blowing your compressor out. Bad. It also sets up a bad contrast, since you've got all this bass in the buildup, then in the main section (4:46) the dnb bass is much quieter by comparison.

Again with the booms around the (5:35) mark. They're blowing the compressor out.

The drop into the end is good. Nice bass bending!

Overall the arrangement and composition is excellent, but the levels and mastering needs work. Mostly just levels, the compression is about the right setting (It sounds like you've used analogue tape somewhere in the process here? It's got that nice saturated quality to it.)

[phunkdust]

I've been working on a remix of one of Paddlepop's tracks ("Tomorrow", on this thread it's listed as "Tomorrow 1.mp3" or something... look up the page a bit)

This is a slow breaks venture... I basically just took the piano melody from the track and simplified it, then built a breakbeat and synths around it.

http://www.websamba.com/phunkfromitm/artofremix.html

Someone mentioned female vocals for Paddlepop's tracks... I was thinking this too, but i'm also thinking it might push the cheese level over the edge ;D 8-) Anyone got some thoughts they'd like to share on that topic?

[Avion]

This the remix of Real?st's tune lusive bass. I went for an experimental/industrial feel to it. Took me a while tho.

Phunkdust, mate i loved your small demo...been said before, but yes very chemical bro's. And that paddlepop tune....well, it blew me away. Can't believe you can produce this sorta sound on your PC. Just remeber that this is how Ingo got his start as well.
Well done.

http://www.acidplanet.com./Components/Download.asp?PID=225163&T=6400

[jim-e]

Originally posted by phunkdust
Someone mentioned female vocals for Paddlepop's tracks... I was thinking this too, but i'm also thinking it might push the cheese level over the edge ;D 8-) Anyone got some thoughts they'd like to share on that topic?

X(

female volcals suck!!! grrr, they fully annoy me hey, you get a fully good choon, and then some chick singing some crap like "oh yeah baby, ohhhhhhhh" over the top. (eg. hybrid) just seems to me to detract HEAPS from the song. maybe its just me tho....

[phunkdust]

i was thinking more Delerium or BT styled vocals...

[PAddLePoP]

hey guys

I actually havent posted the link for Horizon Approaching, Tommorow and Horizon Approaching are two very different songs.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~nfogarty/Horizon%20Approaching.mp3

there we go, Horizon Approaching is like NRG or Hard Trancy but not too much.

Anyway about the female vocalist, I think its gonna happen. I got an email from Prodigy telling me I have a meeting with the Central Station A&R guy in Melb to discuss the future and talk about a vocalist they have lined up. I will keep you guys posted.

Phunkdusts remix is sounding cool! what did you guys think?

[phunkdust]

Originally posted by Avion
This the remix of Real?st's tune lusive bass. I went for an experimental/industrial feel to it. Took me a while tho.

Phunkdust, mate i loved your small demo...been said before, but yes very chemical bro's. And that paddlepop tune....well, it blew me away. Can't believe you can produce this sorta sound on your PC. Just remeber that this is how Ingo got his start as well.
Well done.

http://www.acidplanet.com./Components/Download.asp?PID=225163&T=6400

you need to repost that bro, direct linking to download on acid planet doesnt work...

[agdjrex]

New equipment new sound...

Please check out 'Dead by Dawn' the new track from The Bad Head Brothers.
This track is the first track produced with their new producing equipment.
Hopefully you will like the new sounds that they are creating.

http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=176658&q=Hi

Please note: This is a low quality version of the track, demo cd's are
available with high quality copies. Please contact democd@dj-rex.co.uk
for a copy.

Any feedback or reviews of the track will be greatly appreciated. Also
this tune and others can be listened to @ www.essential-clubbing.com

Thanks in advance.

Cheers
The Bad Head Brothers (aka DJ Rex & DJ Golly)
www.soundclick.com/thebadheadbrothers
bhb@dj-rex.co.uk

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DJ Rex
www.dj-rex.co.uk
"Keeping the old skool vibe alive"

[djswitch]

http://www.mp3.com.au/djswitch

2 tracks for review

tech house & electrobreaks

for licence & release 2003

[PAddLePoP]

Hey guys!

I have completed antother couple of tracks.

One is kinda a mixture of psy trance and melodic and the other is a NRG track.

You can get them here:
Your Power (NRG)
http://members.iinet.net.au/~nfogarty/Your%20Power.mp3

[phunkdust]

Finally, MP3.COM.AU have put my stuff up for you all to listen to...

Two tracks for the moment...

"meloddesey" - melodic breakbeat track

"tomorrow" - remix of NfX (Paddlepop's track) this is the finished version!

http://www.mp3.com.au/transgrinder

[agdjrex]

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Tell the DJ to put the Brass Disc on...

http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=186447&q=Hi

Check out the latest track from the Bad Head Brothers

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Other tracks available for review here :-
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/7/thebadheadbrothersmusic.htm

[hiro]

greetings all ...

first post in these forums ...

umm ...

ok ... so this is very unfinished ... just playing with sounds and learning ... but anyway, its where im at right now: http://www.j0r.org/hir0_-_technique_acquired_004.3_31.12.02.mp3 ...

kthxbye:P .........

[jimbo]

http://www.mp3.com/JimboII

n shit.

[jimbo]

DjSwitch you got it goin on, ultra-well produced :D good luck with your release

[fezzwah]

This track is a pretty minimal techno track. Trippy Vox on this one and a couple of nice percussion lines. enjoy

Liquide Bias (http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=214162&T=7013)

[fezzwah]

Another track as well more deep house. drives along nicely

The Chaser (http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=209693&T=632)

[fezzwah]

Another track as well more deep house. drives along nicely

The Chaser (http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=209693&T=632)

[Phorte]

wow, you guys are doing a great job!! ;D

here are a few of mine. i usually write drum & bass but these two are just something a lil different.. :D

First Class (http://pop1.sharedhosting.net/~dvader/temp/phorte/Phorte%20-%20First%20Class.mp3) - Corsten/Above&Beyond/AvB influenced (hopefully) trance

Far Away (Instrumental) (http://pop1.sharedhosting.net/~dvader/temp/phorte/Phorte%20-%20Far%20Away%20(Instrumental).mp3) - my own melodic take on UK garage

thanks in advance, guys!

[Avion]

Our tune from the Real?st group. Inspired by nostradamus and the crazy shit goin on in the world. You'll have to hit the play button when u get to the acid site.

Not long now till we get our own site up and running so we can have direct downloads...sorry for the trouble guys.

http://www.acidplanet.com./artist.asp?PID=233087&T=7011

[Avion]

forget the above link try this one....i scammed some space from my bro:p

www.users.bigpond.net.au/mjdennis/prediction.wma

[Avion]

www.users.bigpond.net.au/mjdennis/mjdennis/prediction.wma


sorry this is the one....jeebus

[Avion]

I don't know why but it won't print the whole URL...so i will try one last time

www.users.bigpond.net.au/mjdennis/mjdennis/prediction.wma

[djneo]

...is the name of my new track...


LISTEN (http://users.bigpond.com/djneo/tiybod.mp3)

[sammysosa]

Sam Spade is proud to present the Hungry Hungry Hippo for your aurel pleasure.

Link:

http://www.mp3.com.au/HungryHungryHippo (http://www.mp3.com.au/HungryHungryHippo/)


Feedback would be more than welcome.

[PAddLePoP]

I had a listen to the songs that you guys posted, but I am in no position to comment because I don't like that style of music. What I can say however is I liked most of what I heard and it was great production. Keep It UP!

[PAddLePoP]

Oh and I have posted some new songs up at www.mp3.com.au/nfx (http://www.mp3.com.au/nfx) It seems that slowly I am becoming a Hard Trance producer instead of Melodic.

My fav song up there Is Escape, then Your Power then Falling.

What do you think?

Thanks,
Nick

[phunkdust]

Originally posted by PAddLePoP
I had a listen to the songs that you guys posted, but I am in no position to comment because I don't like that style of music. What I can say however is I liked most of what I heard and it was great production. Keep It UP!

young paduwan... you must be able to critique all styles if you are to become a jedi master... 8-)

[sammysosa]

was wondering if anyone would like to offer some criticisms, tips or suggestions to my track recently posted?

[phunkdust]

Originally posted by sammysosa
was wondering if anyone would like to offer some criticisms, tips or suggestions to my track recently posted?

i think this one is a little too long... I thought it was going to end at around the 4:12 mark but I found out it was still going!

I would question some of the sounds and samples your using - they sound a little twee... but then again, it is tech.

The place you really need to concentrate is your engineering techniques... your levels are all wrong - bass is up too high, especially in the 2nd half, and the compressor is latching on too hard, so you're getting this constant "breathing" which sounds annoying and unprofessional. Make your compressor a bit lighter, or alternatively reduce the gain or increase the latch volume so the compressor comes in at louder volumes.

The rest of the engineering is not bad. Keep an eye out for sounds getting masked by other sounds... Keep It Simple Stupid and maintain a cleaner sound always, rather than a muddy one.

[Phorte]

Originally posted by Phorte
wow, you guys are doing a great job!! ;D

here are a few of mine. i usually write drum & bass but these two are just something a lil different.. :D

First Class (http://pop1.sharedhosting.net/~dvader/temp/phorte/Phorte%20-%20First%20Class.mp3) - Corsten/Above&Beyond/AvB influenced (hopefully) trance

Far Away (Instrumental) (http://pop1.sharedhosting.net/~dvader/temp/phorte/Phorte%20-%20Far%20Away%20(Instrumental).mp3) - my own melodic take on UK garage

thanks in advance, guys!

would love some feedback on this one, pdiddy.. err.. phunkdiddy.. err.. yea.. :lol:

[phunkdust]

methinks we should rename this thread "Phunk's review thread"

more reviews on the way... it's not the time thats the issue, it's the 56k modem

[Phorte]

Originally posted by phunkdust
methinks we should rename this thread "Phunk's review thread"

more reviews on the way... it's not the time thats the issue, it's the 56k modem

damn..
you're doing all these reviews and you're only on a 56k modem.. much respect to you!!! :tripping:

[sammysosa]

Thanks for taking the time phunkdust to give me some advice, i'm very new to production.

Originally posted by phunkdust


Keep It Simple Stupid and maintain a cleaner sound always,
rather than a muddy one.

its hard when you're using FruityLoops :tripping: with only 64mbRAM i guess, in fact the PC is so shite that once i start using any effects, you cant even listen to the track until you've rendered it which makes things painfully slow, and impossible.

i was thinking about rendering the loops seperately as wavs and then importing them to ACID 3.0 as it seems to work better on my computer, or at least i would have a finer control over the levels...

would this be better?

[phunkdust]

yeah you need a p3/500 and 128meg of ram to run fruityloops properly

minimise the amount of FX used, try to avoid doubling up by using the send channels to add things like reverb and delay instead of putting a reverb effect on each channel...

make sure all the FX plugins have "Smart Disable" selected, this helps a lot. You can go Tools>Macros>Switch Smart Disable which will do it for you - it's a toggle.

After all that make sure you've got the right directX settings going. It's funny watching people trying to use fruityloops with Windows Sound Mapper selected as an output and they have to run the buffer at like 500ms to get it to work.

With a decent CPU (P3/800+) and a reasonable soundcard you should be able to load up fruityloops to the max, at latencies of around 25ms

I dont really favour the Fruity to Acid method... mostly because you lose that awesome tweakability, and you lose the capability of running realtime FX and VSTi. I'd reccomend a processor and/or RAM upgrade (ram is $20 for 128meg these days...)

[sammysosa]

yeah its a P3 450 which isnt bad, but the RAM is the dogs bollocks. will try the stuff you mentioned, let you know how it goes.

Also, is there a decent program you can use to master a track once you've finished?

[phunkdust]

hey if you look around you should be able to find old P3 cpu's very cheaply because they dont make em any more... of course it depends on the socket type on your motherboard and the max speed it can support, but you should be able to grab a P3 800 or something plus 256meg of ram for $60-$70

You really shouldnt be having problems with a P3 450... I run Fruity on a P3/600 notebook which is often UNDERclocked to 400mhz...

I'd be looking at the Sound settings in Fruit...

Make sure you've selected an output that has (DX) next to it

then

Chuck on one of the fruity demo songs and play it, then go to the buffer settings window... Bring the buffer down until the "underruns" counter starts ticking over constantly. Then play with the "polling" and "hardware buffer" setting and see if they change the speed that the "underruns" counter is ticking over. Of course you want it to be ticking over more slowly. Once you've sorted the "polling" and "hardware buffer" settings, bring the buffer back up to a suitable spot (you'll probably need to increase it by 20 or 30ms)


fruityloops has a lot of tools built in for mastering - it's got compression, limiting, and parametric EQ... you should be able to do most of your mastering inside fruity, apart from normalisation which you would do in a wave editor like Sound Forge 6.

If you have the disk space and the free time, I highly reccomend using fruity to export to 32bit (0.24 setting) then doing mastering in your wave editor, then saving down to 16bit for CD or MP3 or whatever... You get an overall better sound quality although you end up spending 5 times more time on everything because exporting and editing at 32 bit is very cpu intensive

[Tax Invoice]

Originally posted by phunkdust
methinks we should rename this thread "Phunk's review thread"

more reviews on the way... it's not the time thats the issue, it's the 56k modem

Incredible patience there sonny-jim! Well done.

Must say I'm digging your tracks on MP3.com.au, but I won't review until they've posted mine as well so then it's fair!;)
Not that my music is anything like what's going here.:meh:

[universal_dust]

I have about 20 tracks on my web site

they are snippets but you get the feel for each track

http://www.universaldust.net/trax.html

I'd appreciate some feedback ...

[phunkdust]

geez

universal dust

you dont need our feedback, you guys are pros!

[Tax Invoice]

Originally posted by universal_dust
I have about 20 tracks on my web site

they are snippets but you get the feel for each track

http://www.universaldust.net/trax.html

I'd appreciate some feedback ...

Umm, did I see you guys at The Arthouse a few months back?
Whaddaya need feedback for? -You're signed!!!
8-)

[agdjrex]

Please have a listen to this track 'Midnight Magic' One for when the clock strikes 12

http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=207235&q=Hi

Any constructive feedback is greatly appreciated and seems hard to come by.

Cheers
DJ Rex & Golly
The Bad Head Brothers

[Whiplash]

Midnight Magic:>> Strange track. My impressions were of a hard house track that kept waiting for the bassline. There wasn't really that much bass in it (not necessarily a bad thing, but I'm a bass junkie.. ;) ) and a couple of the breaks dropped the beat in at really unexpected timings. I liked the hoover stabs tho - they were chopped up quite nicely. I must confess that I didn't finish listening to the whole thing; I sorta got bored halfway through it. If you're aiming at hard house, you need a chunky bassline and little bit more of a 'building' structure to it. (Layering hihats, etc). Good luck with your future trax!

[agdjrex]

Hi Whiplash,

Thanks very much for the feedback, we've correct the bass, and by all accounts it's punched it up some more.

Cheers for the detailed review.

DJ Rex
The Bad Head Brothers
www.soundclick.com/thebadheadbrothers

[phunkdust]

Originally posted by Phorte
wow, you guys are doing a great job!! ;D

here are a few of mine. i usually write drum & bass but these two are just something a lil different.. :D

First Class (http://pop1.sharedhosting.net/~dvader/temp/phorte/Phorte%20-%20First%20Class.mp3) - Corsten/Above&Beyond/AvB influenced (hopefully) trance

Far Away (Instrumental) (http://pop1.sharedhosting.net/~dvader/temp/phorte/Phorte%20-%20Far%20Away%20(Instrumental).mp3) - my own melodic take on UK garage

thanks in advance, guys!

My goodness!

What can I say? I'm quite literally blown away. Both tracks are nothing short of amazing, and I'm asking myself why you arent famous right now. Your production skills are superb, your engineering is spot on, and your talent shines through both of these tracks.

Far Away - I love this, everything is just nice, good length, and I love the orchestral progressions!

First Class - I've got this bangin' in the headphones right now... Soo phat! I love that little chunk of breakbeat, very BT-style there, I love it. Once again the production and engineering is spot on.

Dude, I want to hear your Drum&Bass... My favourite genre!

[kaossproject]

I might get one back on young Phunky here......:lol:

further to our conversation today, I listened to your 2 new tracks on MP3.com.au as you suggested.

FARRRKK!!!!!
Your shit never ceases to amaze me......I would pay good money for a CD full of your stuff dude.

And as I said if you wanna test it on some punters, I have just the gig in mind for you......???

[Serotone]

okay, been writing a little bit on a new rig lately, and heres what i've come up with:

Some real dirty sounding short snippets, that need a bit of fixing but anyway you get the idea.. (members.optushome.com.au/serotone)

[Prier]

New track fresh outta the studio.
Check it out, some feedback'd be nice.
www.mp3.com.au/prier
It's dirty deep breaks to the max...

Prier...

[Tax Invoice]

Serotone, what can I say except you're one hell of a prick-tease!
:lol:

Your tracks sound as though they're gonna go somewhere very cool, although it's hard to get a good indication with what you've made available! You've got some great drum sounds. My only comment would be to play with the EQ on your hats for variation, as they seem the same on each track.

Excellent stuff nontheless!
:D

[subnet]

here are some techno tunes I have made :



http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=237853&T=9414

and

http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=237847&T=2899



Feedback appreciated , I have only just stated making techno .

[kenada]

"tomorrow" - remix of NfX (Paddlepop's track) this is the finished version!




Nice intro, but not so sure about the acid line, (just a personal taste thing really...)

Maybe a touch more variation in the drum loop, like 64 as opposed to 16 would carry my interest further, it flows along nicely enough tho'

Kinda hard to comment on the mastering side of the process on mp3's but what I am hearing is quite good.

The beat seems to just start again at 3:45 without any real lead into it, It's always good to give something to carry it in.

The snare bounce sounds a touch outdated.

Nice pads at 5:20, cool sweeps and good control of them.

I'll give you a 7.5 outta 10 for that one, It could be polished a touch more, but you are onto somthing. There is a very nice mood to the track and that gotta count.

Will this be the sort of thing you will be playing live? and if so how?

[kenada]

Originally posted by Serotone
okay, been writing a little bit on a new rig lately, and heres what i've come up with:



Hmm, I listened to the happy one, that sounded good to begin with, but then that stab was not to my liking, and the way you used the filter to bring the bass back into it seemed a bit too last minute - I should however keep in mind that this is all live and that it does sound badass.

Nice sounds at the start....

The second track - Great start and programming, sounds like some tasty teriaki sounds. Great pads in that one aswell, sounds a bit like what I've been going for in the way of stringy detroit styles, and booty.

Third track -

Tribal Theory - sounds like you like that one a bit. Deep in the jungle everyone will scream, ;)


9/10 well done!


Well done mate, one thing tho' how do you record these and is there any way to increase the quality? Not to say it isn't good, but you know what i mean, like for release or somthing like that...


Also do you make much in a studio situation as opposed to live?

[kenada]

I will be having a few new tracks up here in the next few days as soon as mp3.com.au get them upped...

The one I have in mind is "It's All Within You" A downbeat micro house stylee...

[Serotone]

Tax-Invoice:

The hats issue, well yes :) If you have a look at the picture in that folder, you'll see what i used for the 'loops' (ignore the jd990 under the mixer...not used...)...

All the hats came off the rm, and the closest thing that has to an eq is the filters on each track....i'll have to load the e5k up with some different hats i think...

What you heard in the loops was all i have at the moment, I went through a 3 or 4 day long 'creativity' spurt on the new rig, and my last batch of 'creative energy' went to my second proper dnb track (yay)...

I have a few gigs in the next month or so, so i am going to have to get at least 45 minutes of stuff together. When i do i'll probably post up a set.

Kenada:

I didn't use the filter to bring anything back in, just did a section change. It could have been the compressor playing games....

What you hear isn't my 'studio' stuff persay (spelling?), its just me fucking around on a couple of boxes, getting some new sutff together for future sets...

I've got some 'proper' tracks up at mp3.com.au/serotone and there is also a lot of SHIT up there that i haven't taken down yet. However check out, odour, and some other things.... hehe

thanks for the feedback guys :D

[phunkdust]

Originally posted by kenada
Will this be the sort of thing you will be playing live? and if so how?

Yeah it's a pretty good indication of what the live show will be like, although there will be a lot of other stuff. I haven't really done live before like this so it's going to be quite an experiment. I'm playing with a lot of slow breaks and subbass, things to take the PA to its limits... I'm going to include both tracks on the website in the set since at the moment I haven't got a complete hour's worth of material (I'm still writing it tho...)

The equipment on the night that I will use will be a notebook, akai s2000, DX7-2, wired into a Behringer mixer with onboard FX... I'll also be using some FX pedals and such. It's going to be an interesting mish-mash but I'm sure it will turn out well.

[PAddLePoP]

Hey guys sorry I haven't replied but I have been busy working on new tracks, and here they are :D

First off is one of my classic tracks "Harmony In E" which I released a while ago but I have fixed it up and re - released it. It is a Melodic track with a few Hard Trance influences. Its main feature is its Dreamy Piano melody. You can get this track at

http://www.mp3.com.au/nfx/harmonyine

The other track is Hard Trance or NRG. This one is probably my 'hardest' track yet and I am sure you guys will like it. It has a simple vocal "Sounds like it has a Hallucinogenic effect". I am wondering if the buildup has enough energy in it and if it is long enough, what do you guys think? Anyway here is the link:

http://www.mp3.com.au/nfx/Hallucinogenic

Edit: Phunkdust I am so coming to see you play!!!!

Thanks guys!!!!

Nick

[phunkdust]

paddlepop...

hallucinogenic.... very good, you're learning... this one sounds a lot more original than the last. still a problem with your engineering however.... wheres the bass? I want a big storming bassline not a piddly little thing. I had the bass cranked up by +20dB and it was BARELY enough. with the EQ off, it's pitiful. with 20dB of boost, the bass should be blowing holes in my cones.

The kick is too hard, filter off a little of that top end so it's not punching into the midrange.

And crank that bass up. Boost the volume, add a enhancing EQ (this is if you've got enough channels in your parametric EQ to do it... basically you give it a nice smooth bass boost curve around 60-100hz, but you have a sharp rolloff beyond 20hz so you dont get DC in the signal which is a side-effect of boosting bass, you also want it to rolloff back do normal after about 120hz so you're not adding midrange)

something like this would suit... this also has a high shelf reducing treble by about 3db

http://phunkdust.8bit.co.uk/boost.jpg

[phunkdust]

Nice, very nice, choppy funky breakbeats and a nice dirty bassline, it runs very well, good length, good engineering, it's a testament to how good the tracks is that I can like it despite listening on a 20k stream... I'll say a bit more when I have a chance to download it.

[kenada]

Hey folks, As afore mentioned I have a new track released (ha ha sounds so formal, more like upped to mp3.com.au) Well anyways the good news, now you too can listen to my Downbeat Microhouse Effort - "It's All Within You" right here,

http://www.mp3.com.au/track.asp?id=42321

All reviews and comments are appreciated.

One more thing, it's quite intricate and detalied in it's minimal nature, so low fi mp3 downloads really defeat their own purpose.

Cheers.

[compressed]

kenada - its all within you (kenada rmx)

random thoughts while listening...

the pitch shifted clap - sounds too dry, feels like its sitting on top of the mix rather than in it. needs a little reverb in my opinion, maybe drop in volume slightly or take out some of the higher frequencies to make it stand out less?

nice sort of pingy synth sounds, but they get a little repetitive over the middle break and buildup. their repetition sort of aids the buildup in terms of anticipation, but then the track sort of disolves into nothing, emphasising the repetitiveness. it sort of feels like the track was going to go somewhere, and it feels like its all coming together around the 8 minute mark, and then it doesn't - the ending caught me by surprise, thought there was more to come. though on subsequent listens its not as bad, but that could just be down to knowing whats about to happen.

general atmosphere of the track is very nice. sounds generally compliment each other, nicely balanced. flows well for the most part, but maybe the breakdown in the middle is a little too long and too stripped back.

the vocal sample - purely personal opinion here, but i don't like it. it sounds too..."progressive" for want of a better word. maybe i'm misinterpreting what you were aiming for with this track, but i think stylistically it doesn't fit with the rest of the track. it sounds like something i'd hear in a prog tune, whereas the rest of the track is doing the minimal/micro tech-house thing.

i'm not saying that mixing ideas/techniques/sounds from other genres is wrong (far from it), but i just feel the sample (and associated effect) felt incongruous, to the point where it'd cause me to not buy it if heard on vinyl. otherwise it'd at least go into the "needs a second listen" pile.

anyway, theres my thoughts on it. ignore at your will :)

oh yeah, meant to comment on the last ones you did (and a bunch of other people's as well), but never got the time to write up my thoughts. thought i'd just quickly say i thought 3rd gear was a very nice tune, really like it.

[N4TE]

Hey all. There are a few links to 404 errors instead of links to music posted here. Check that yours is up to date for me please.

I've just browsed through the links to people's music looking for tunes to include in the voting process for the ITM album, which most of you would know about from this forum. I'm blown away by the fact most links now lead to album pages with more than one track. If you've posted tracks here, to make my job a little easier and less time and resource consuming, there's something I have to say ...If you want your tracks on the list of tunes voted on for the ITM album, you'll have to do something for me.

PM me no more than three of your track titles, plus an up to date link of where I can find them online. I want to give people a chance to submitt what they feel is their best work.

If you'd prefer to send me your tracks via snailmail for whatever reason, PM me and let me know, I'll send you a collection address.

Thanks guys and keep up the great work.

Nate.

[kenada]

Thanks for the detailed feedback, your opinion is always valid in my books.

I have taken what you said into consideration, and tend for the most part to agree with alot of it.

The clap sound, is actually a weird snare, maybe it could do with being eq'ed down more, but it's the basis of the track. With the breakdown, I like when they almost fade, it makes the next thing you hear all that more important and necessary when they go out like that.

The blippy synth is different huh' I thought at first that it was getting too repeatateatiteatative, but then I found myself humming it later on, and in subsequent days, so I thought well it's not that bad after all.

The vox, are from a house tune, funnily enough doesn sound a touch proggy (the original that is) Some German folks, I just sampled from an acapella.

I was going to develop the ending, but I was rather happy with keeping it down the the elements already discovered throughout.

Thanks again mate. look forward to hearing some of your new work...

Ohh PS, Yeah 3rd Gear is a thumper huh

[dks49]

Transgrinder - Tomorrow

A great remix phunk. I have heard the original and I like your take on it. This is my semi-lay review of your track. I am listening to it for the third time (dial up) now. I think one of the strongest parts of the song is the beat. It sits where it should, is well programmed and just sounds like a good nuskool/prog beat.

Would have liked to hear u fuck with the beat a bit more though - I am thinking early on in the track here, approaching the first breakdown. Up to here you have used the same snare roll fill twice. In fact I think it's the same drum fill throughout the whole track. Definitely room for more creativity here.

I think you have kicked the beat in at the right time and I like the way u have used the addition of the heavier kick, especially after the first breakdown.

Production-wise sounds good to me but obviously limited by my dial-up. My only real beef is with the pianos. Too minimalist - these piano notes do not carry the tune. They don't for my money really even carry the breakdowns. They sound way too midi - like a guy poking a finger at a keyboard - and the same delay effect on each note gets predictable. Why not incorporate some chords?

Lurve that dreamy pad arrangement towards the end of the song.

[dks49]

Sammysosa - That Morning (original mix)

K the beefs for me were

- Too long - a song has to be damn good if it's going to keep me interested for 8 and a half minutes.
- you have repeated too many things too many times eg. the same reverse cymbal that comes in almost every four bars. If u want to anounce the introduction of say, some cymbals into the track, try and think of another way to do it instead of simply reversing a cymbal.
- the samples that fruity loops gives you are great to play around with but be careful using them unaltered in a tune. A really really good producer could take those bundled samples and pump out a killer tune. Until u get to that level, play around with them a bit more and try to find a sound that people like me won't immediately recognise as a fruity sample.

Other than that mate there is a lot of potential here. I'd love to hear your stuff 6-12 months from now.

[DJ Fusion]

Just saw this thread! Sorry I also postedered this link in the tunes & tracks forum, but here's my first techno song that I've just written. I used Reason 2.0

http://dj-fusion.freeyellow.com/Fusions1st.zip

[Tax Invoice]

Hey Fusion!
Now this is the kinda stuff that brings back faith in people actually having FUN with music. Too much 'serious' stuff around these days for my liking.

Maybe ease off on so much filtering, I can only assume you were having such a great time with this you got carried away. I'm not one to give tech details re improvements especially today as I'm listening thru shitty monitors, but would like to hear more of that track (if there is more) as it sounds like it's about to take a really clever twist just as it fades...

[Prier]

Anyone want to check out some breaks?
www.mp3.com.au/prier
Last time I posted I got not one response, come on people.

Prier...

[N4TE]

Phunk Responded, I saw it. I will too.


That 'snare' (where normal people would have one) sounds kinda like beatbox, which can work for or against you, depending on what you're doing. Your bass is hot, not overbearing but very much in there, and about a 1:10 when the hats/tambo comes in, you're in a sweet groove, very nicely controlled 16's in that loop. near 2:45 you do something damn close to 'killing in the name of' by some guitar playing bunch of muppets I won't mention here. :p I'd do it for four beats and slam right back into your groove, and break it down later. If it was me. But it aint.

I find the bass in the intro a little to minimal, compared to what's going round these days. I'd draw some of those stabs waaaaay out and maybe try a few pitch bends down once in a while. Once the bass riff gets up, it's sweet. Also on the intro, maybe it's just me, but I find it a bit too broken, if you get me. Maybe just let your loops build up without chopping into them right away?

Also, just a thought, if you have that drum track handy. Boost the gain around 80-100Hz by 2 dB, see what happens. ;) Found the kick a little quiet, is all. Just my thoughts.

N8

[N4TE]

Very Melbourne of you, Bruddah Funk. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back, you've got gigs to play.

I felt the synth growing on me in the opening bar. Each listen just gets better. Mind if everyone remixes those pads? Hell, I might even steal it myself, it's that unique and catchy. The second layer, sort of a 303 sound, is hypnotic.

You start dropping the bass at exactly the right time, imho. I can imagine that one ripping through a crowd, and them all getting it. It could, I think, stand to be a little larger, gained up.

The drums are top notch, I'd be proud of that if I was you. I'd also turn them up a bit more. I kept waiting for the REAL kick to come in, out of nowhere, and floor me Dark Alley Stylee. No Joy on that front. Heavy up, our kid! Far enough's not quite far enough, go further, I reckon. But I'm not like the other children, and these thoughts are merely mine.


edit-forgot icon.

[phunkdust]

Originally posted by N4TE

near 2:45 you do something damn close to 'killing in the name of' by some guitar playing bunch of muppets I won't mention here.
N8


I was thinking the EXACT same thing! :lol:

[N4TE]

Originally posted by phunkdust



I was thinking the EXACT same thing! :lol:


MWAH! :lol: . were you thinking exactly what I was thinking, that it made the tune? I Lioked it a Loht.

[phunkdust]

Mmm, tasty cheez!

It's good to see someone having some fun and cranking out some nice juicy rave for once... I've had enough of all the bedroom doofers doing all this ambient prog wank. This track sounds fresh.

While there isnt much in it to talk about, it's a good effort, and you should keep at it. The little drum quirks are particularly good.

[djswitch]

interested?

track is located here (http://www.mp3.com.au/track.asp?id=35990)

Original epic version composed back in 1999 by Switch (Mathew Sallur) & Rhythm (Ben Niland).

Recent 2002 remix to give it the the tech-house feel famous from such labels as OBLONG, TANGO, DOUBLE DOWN, NIGHTSHIFT, LOW PRESSINGS etc....

Cruises along at 125bpm with a Peace Division style bassline and totally unique synths!!

Enjoy the ride.....

[phunkdust]

Good track this, I like it. Nice and sublime, and it flows well. The timing of the parts is good. I like the drum set your using, that little cracky snare sounds particularly nice.

It is probably a minute too long overall I think.

It sounds like a good track to play live, it has those very smooth changes that make it a good flowing track.

A little more variation in rythm wouldnt go astray.

Engineering is excellent.

[DJ Fusion]

Hey Tax Invoice and Funkdust, thanks for the kind words of encouragement. Much appreciated.:)

[Tax Invoice]

Well, well, MP3.com.au have finally placed a couple of my tracks up
for your criticism.

http://www.mp3.com.au/wahwahman/

My faves are "You are my one" & "Magic Disco Gear".
They're a little quirkier than what the rest of you are doing on here, but what the hell.

None of these tracks are finished by the way. Vocals are being re-recorded next week.:p

[WhiteRhino]

Our latest little breaks number...pretty funky with an old skool feel...grab it at www.members.optusnet.com.au/whiterhino1/Index.HTML

[N4TE]

sweet pads here, perfectly mixed over a tight, slick percusive style, you obviously know what you like in a house tune and how to get it out of your gear. You don't need a lot of feedback, I think you could give the threads some of your technical expetise and thoughts on what you think makes a good track. What you need are reviews. As far as I'm concerned, this is a finished marketable product, and something tells me it's not the only one we'll hear from you on this thread. Noice one bruvva. Quality work.

Edit: really DJ friendly, too. nice intros and outros for mixing.

[WhiteRhino]

Pretty nice track you have here...not very complicated but still very catchy...bassline is funky and gets the head going...just needs alot of fill in work but as you said...its not finished.

[N4TE]

Originally posted by jim-e

http://members.optusnet.com.au/revpacman/Intorsion.mp3
crank it!!!
any feedback would be well wikkid :)

Can't flaw your musical direction here, old mate. tough, fast, dirty and dark. This is so far up my alley that I've got to ask, where are you guys from, where do you play and why don't I have a demo CD yet? I quite like the flange it's not used like that often (originality points.) and breaks up the breakdown into two bits, which can work well, and does in this case.

You can see where the track kicks back in coming from a mile away though. I also think it lacks a defining bass sample, just a fat arsed nasty synth bass stab, preferably tweaked. Not talking 303's now, something more like the virus. You know, that note that comes in near the end of the breakdown and takes carnts heads off at the knee. bwaaaarP. that one.

bravo, hip hip hooray, nice one bruvva and fully sick, moit. *applause* You guys are having fun, I can tell.

[jibber]

man, i love this track. Im very into this sound at the moment and your track has gone straight into my playlist.

now the criticism

* break the bassline up a bit, whenever there is bass it is that same line. It is good line, but i think u just need to play around with it a bit. create some variation.

* same story with the drum beat

*there is a snare sound in there that i dont think gels with the rest of the song, u can hear it between 1.50 and 2.20, aswell as other parts of the song, methinks it hits on the 2 , 3.5, 4.5 beats, try it with something more organic sounding, i know its not a big thing but it kinda stuck out for me after the 2nd or 3rd listen

ok, so im not a very good critic, i just had to comment on this track cos it rocks.

[Tax Invoice]

White Rhino -Yeah, it was deliberatley simple, I'm thinking it's a little too long, and could do with a lot less repitition.
Glad you like it though. Your track rocks too by the way. In fact we should talk further re gigging/collaborating if you're keen.

Jibber -Thanks for those comments, 100% re the drums (that's why they're a little 'samey'). There's two loops & 2 additional snares & 1 kick underneath, but it's still not right (any advice?). Will rework them after new vocals are added, same with bass line, I'll probably simplify that in the 'verse' areas. Probably shouldn't have posted this track in it's infancy, but you can probably understand I am very excited to be working with such a talented vocalist. -It's totally changed my style of writing.

Great to have such positive feedback from you guys!:blush:
-Fanx!

[neilfahey]

Originally posted by WhiteRhino
Our latest little breaks number...pretty funky with an old skool feel...grab it at www.members.optusnet.com.au/whiterhino1/Index.HTML

Mate, I was gonna try and give you some constructive criticism here but upon listening to it again I really don't think I can... It's pretty much spot on!
The general sound is a lot like what I've tried to do with some breaks tracks I've started (and never finished) in the past - only difference is that you've pulled it off here! You'll hafta let us know when there's more up on your website...

[djswitch]

WhiteRhino : all the elements you have there are fine, its all funky. i just think you need to fill the track in a little more. go have a listen to some chemical brothers stuff and take notice just how many sweeps, whirrs, buzzes, strings and synth stabs they have. people usually take these for granted but you can quite easily make a long time seem much shorter with these added extras.any delayed dubby noises are always a bonus too!!


nice work


n4Te : thanks for those kind words mate. i have another track on http://mp3.com.au/djswitch its electro breaky - called HEAPS

[phunkdust]

Baby Baby Baby

How funkin' awesome is this track? It's like 100% cheez but I just can't stop listening to it. Love how you've nailed all those 80s sounds. Engineering is great! I'd love to see someone drop this in a club. I think the simplicity of it is what makes it such a good track. I think those cowbells in the 2nd half could come down a little tho...

Magic Disco Gear

I like this one too, cool sounds, but I think it's lacking something to keep it interesting. Sure the vox sample is good but it doesn't keep the track interesting for the entire 5m27s. The 8 beat bassline gets repetative after a while.

You Are My One

Well you certainly fixed this one up since I last heard it! I like the verse sections... Simplicity is bliss - but on that I think the chorus needs more to it, that little lofi tonewheel melody doesnt really carry the track... Theres a very quiet background pad you bring in, this should be louder. I could only hear this on my headphones.

As for engineering, I found that in the chorus especially, the vocal harmony tended to saturate the midrange. There needs to be contrast between the verse and chorus, sure, so compression isn't really a good solution answer.

I don't really dig the whisper thing... Maybe if you rolled off the bass and then gave it some massive stereo seperation to give it that cliched phoneline effect. And of course, pop filters infront of the microphone are good ;D

I think an 'alternate chorus' somewhere in the mix would go down well.

If you get a chance, email me an acapella (mono mp3s are good) cos I'd like to try a remix of this.

[Tax Invoice]

Ahhhhh, Phunk! -Been waiting;)

Funnily enough, 'Baby Baby Baby' has been played out in Sydney
to much enjoyment (if I may say so). Yes deliberate 80's sillyness, so much so that we were cracking up making the fills!

The more I listen to Magic Disco Gear the less I like it. Yep Waay too long. Maybe a little too "Space Raiders" meets "Bentley Rhythm Ace"?

I wasn't too hot on the whispering vox either, but sometimes you gotta let chicks have their way... And yeah, too many pops & sibilance, but it's just a guide.

Will send you the "Good" vox next week after they're recorded.
Thanks for the offer of remix, really looking forward to that!

8-)

[WhiteRhino]

Thx for the advice people...we will go back to K.E.G. Studios and have a fiddle..at least you liked the way it sounded!!!

[fezzwah]

Hi Guys,

Finished off a new track. This one has more of a trip-hop come dub feel. quite a long ride. but certainly will be looking at cutting this back a tad in the future. thanks

No-Warz (http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=244996&T=477)

[WhiteRhino]

Fezzwah....will check it this arvo when i get home from stupid work.

[Tax Invoice]

Fezzwah -Very nice indeedy. Not as dubby as it could be though (but less is more). Also would be nice to hear some bass kick in at some stage, and some variation in the drum loop. Length is a little excessive don't you think?

[fezzwah]

Cheers Tax Invoice.

Agreed on the length. Will defintely be cutting this down to around 5 mins. There is a kick in there at around 04:34mins. Will have to make it a tad more prominent. ;) . Thanks for the feedback, all of it helps!

[Tax Invoice]

Sorry, meant to say "Bass Line".:D

[WhiteRhino]

Fezzwah - Not a bad sounding track..im not a big dub fan so i cant comment too much about it..

but like tax invoice said you need to work on your fill ins and drum variations..

i didnt mind the piano melodies...the usual reverb(not too much) wouldnt go astray and maybe some delay in parts..

what do you use to make your traxx?

[fezzwah]

Thanks WhiteRhino, again much appreciated. I figure with a cut back version, I should be able to nail the fills, etc. will definitely cut the length back and look at enhancing the bass line. much appreciated. Oh and as for the software. Fruitloops and all of it's simple to use midi interface!! ;)

[opiate]

The tunes on this site have been up for a long while now - still yet to receive any reviews on the site though the opinions of people in the chat rooms have been great :D I'd love any constructive / objective feedback.

http://www.mp3.com.au/opiate/

The tunes are almost over a year old now - these days I'm producing tunes more on the driving funky house tip - most of those are some sort of trance. Quick descriptions?

Bliss - Commercial trance sounding, similar to the Rank 1 / uplifting melodic style. The most popular with downloads.

Innercity - My fave tune. Cruisey ethnic trance with some fitting arabic vocals - more a sampling feat than anything.

Jericho - banging funky techno.

Olfactory Funk - dark goa trance with a massive sub- bassline which melds with a strong kick. A tad experimental in parts.

[phunkdust]

hey peoples... just posting a note to say I usually turn around a review from a posted track within 72 hours, but I'm running a little behind at the moment - working on my live set. I've downloaded a bunch of tracks but havent had time to listen yet.

So reviews that will be up sometime this weekend...

DJ Switch - Heaps, Project 99
White Rhino - The Best Fukk
Fezzwah - No Warz
Opiate - Bliss, Innercity, Jehrico, Olfactory Funk

[psylencer]

Here we go.

These are a few picks from my Progrssive House Collection. They're all good in my opinion...But Id Love your opinion too.

http://www.mp3.com/Dan_Hurley

You'll find all three tracks there - Lo-Fi and Hi-Fi.

Thanks

[psylencer]

Nice to see another musician making some truely professional music...

Structure..Very Nice...
Melody..Excellent...
Overall Sound...REALEASE IT IF YOU HAVNT...

I dissagree with Phunkdusts Review. I thought the kick was very satisfying...Personally I wouldnt pull it down.

I have made some similarly Melodic Stuff. Havnt posed it yet but as soon as I do Ill let you know.

Maybee you could take the time to listen to some of my Prog House...Much slower and less melodic...Guess you either like it or you dont. Here's the address.

http://www.mp3.com/Dan_Hurley

Thanks for letting us listen to your stuff.

Dan Hurley

[Luminary]

Posting tracks for self-promotion and feedback.

One full track, and four previews.

Follow the link, and enjoy

Statler and Waldorf.mp3 (http://www.statlerandwaldorf.com.au/FSMusic.htm)

luminary
leohede@hotmail.com

[WhiteRhino]

SLater & Waldorf - Webcity

Well i checked out your site and had a good look around on it b4 i dl'ed Webcity..your studio setup is very nice and those views!!:blush:

The song itself was nice to listen to...the bassline was very guitar like to me but i didnt mind that...the scratches were great and gave it a nice live feel..


Vocals were ok...needed some more fx and the occasional manipulation...the beat needed some more fill ins to give the track some spice but it was nice to listen to.

[WhiteRhino]

Hey peepz...i added 2 new traxx on our site..

check em out here.. http://members.optusnet.com.au/whiterhino1/Index.html

White Rhino - SOnic Boom(demo) is the track we are working on at the moment and its far from finished but some feedback would be great!!..its breaks and its pretty phat.

Glowstick Fukka - Im a HArd MuthaFukka is a hardcore track i wrote for fun this morning(Sunday-23rd-feb) and its just for laughs..so feedback isnt necessary.

[jibber]

White Rhino - Sonic Boom

Love the sample! haha. funny cos thats what i was thinking when i read the track name.
u've definately got those fills down. all the sweeps give ur track a very nice, professional sounding sound:lol:

madd driving breaks tune u got going here, looking forward to hearing the final mix.
i love that sweep up just before u drop the bass at 2:12, 3.14 etc. man thats sounds wicked, but dont over do it, it'll lose its effect if its used to much.

R.E the bass line, drives the track along nicely but i think you could do more with it. it seems to never get towhere it wants to be, i hope that makes sense.

ive put the first full track ive created up, and id like to know what u guys think,
it is here (http://www.froggy.com.au/jibber1/it_burns.mp3)

[meldavid]

Top stuff NfX, I've d/loaded all your tracks already.

I'd sure like some reviews left at my artist pages or even some email.

Please visit http://cyberfem.com to link you to my tracks - I cater for a lot of genres, not just dance music.

Cheerio.

[WhiteRhino]

Jibber - It Burns Hey man...just grabbed It Burns..i liked the intro especially the filtered synth and nice beat..the bassline is ok but has way too much low-end in it...tone it down abit and it will rock..

The synth lines that come in later are pretty cool...maybe build on the percussion some more to give it some spice..the filtering on everything is still good..

Like alot of people have said with my tracks..try adding some fx hits and stabs and also drum fill ins...

the only gripe i had was with the mastering...the bass over powered everything but thats easy fixed...just eq it and turn the volume down abit..

overall it was a good track..

[Phibbler]

Alright here ya are ,
It wasn't my idea to put these on but uncle sonic twisted my arm

http://www.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/NSR/

Oh and if you do review one don't review auxilary's intro, it's just a boot leg . ( i hate doing bootlegs, because i get no control or content to the sound. Remixes are different but dumb mash ups just shit me)

Currently The Nutters is a collective ,and as i don't have access to a computer with uploads , generally the songs come from or thru unlce sonic. The only song that i can say with any authority is 90% mine is "up all night".
I like it but i was going for too much of a Xpress2 "smoke machine" bass line, so now i'm over it. we have more songs but these are the only ones we have got played at nutshell gigs.

Also after hating it for a month, uncle sonic made some changes to decomissoned and now i really can't say enuff about it.

Oh and please review "keep it" last. Aux is gonna kick me squaw in the nuts when he finds out i bagged his trak but i think it's naff. But if you want to prove me wrong please do try.

[Phibbler]

Phorte - Far Away

Phibbler found himself another one for the car here. By crimminy its fucking good .

If you aren't in discussions with record labels , you bloodly well should be .


THe only things i dislike is the plucked sounds goes on for just a little too long, but i don't mind. You are supremely good with the strings, and i've got my thumbs out for your gee-rargin beats. For some reason it reminds of the run lola run soundtrack, even tho they have no resemblence whatsoever.

Thumbs out for

[BrownDwarf]

Hey peeps,

If you're ears aren;t totally knackerd yet by all means check out some of my stuff. Bit old but still fresh enough I hope. Mix of bigbeat, drum 'n' bass ambience. Now that's got to get you wondering. Lots of new stuff to be uploaded soon.

http://www.mp3.com/BrownDwarf

:offchops:

[WhiteRhino]

New site design and some new demo traxx...check it out HERE!! (http://members.optusnet.com.au/whiterhino1/Index.html) ...cheers!!8-)

[N4TE]

Originally posted by BrownDwarf
Hey peeps,

If you're ears aren;t totally knackerd yet by all means check out some of my stuff.
http://www.mp3.com/BrownDwarf



Mate I'd love to... but I'm not signing up with mp3.com to hear them. mp3.com.au will host your tunes and let people either stream or download them for free. Much better for getting your tunes out there.

[WhiteRhino]

yeh go mp3.com.au...or else!!!..:D

[phunkdust]

Originally posted by N4TE


Mate I'd love to... but I'm not signing up with mp3.com to hear them. mp3.com.au will host your tunes and let people either stream or download them for free. Much better for getting your tunes out there.

Ah, easy solution - just do what i did... enter email address as fuck@off.com and enter random birthdate and details (i was born in 1920, dont you know?!)

Only have to do it once and you're done.

[phunkdust]

Originally posted by Phibbler
Phorte - Far Away

Phibbler found himself another one for the car here. By crimminy its fucking good .

If you aren't in discussions with record labels , you bloodly well should be .


Amen to that - I should mention that this track made it on to my coveted "Doug's Nice Tunes" compilation which is a 3CD set that I carry around with me all the time. A perfect cross section of all the music I like. All my favourite tracks. Congrats on being the first ITMer to get a track onto it.

Although I have been playing Nate's "Feedback: The ITM Compilation" a lot in the car, and I'm well impressed by everyones effort.

Songs sound so much better when you don't know who wrote them!

[Hydra]

I just went through the whole signup at mp3.com and spent friggin 40 minutes uploading a track for you guys to listen to, only to be told they will post it in around 2-3 weeks, if i'm lucky....:mad:

what's the go.

so I'm thinkin of adding a page to my work's website and posting trax there, If any of you are interested, I could put up an artist page where you could post your trax too???

no real exposure to outside world but if you're like me and don't wanna use mp3.com it could be an option.

thoughts??

[fezzwah]

Hi Hydra, you could try uploading on Acidplanet

http://www.acidplanet.com

when asks for a rating for your track, i.e. G or PG, etc choose G otherwise people will not have access to the track.

Goodluck & PM me if need help.:)

[neilfahey]

Yeah songs are put up straight away on AcidPlanet... I think the aim is to have tracks on there that have been created in Sonic Foundry's Acid though. I guess they'd never know...

Hey Phunkydude - How'd your gig go last week?

[fezzwah]

Originally posted by neilfahey
I think the aim is to have tracks on there that have been created in Sonic Foundry's Acid though. I guess they'd never know...


Yeah you're right Neil. They would never know. I don't use Acid. :p

[djswitch]

For those of you that enjoyed Project 99 ;

Alternate remix for flipside 12" release. No Synths, No Strings just pumpin drumz and basslines. For the big jeep sound systems :)

still looking for another remix too, if anyone is interested

this track available here (http://www.mp3.com.au/track.asp?id=44053#)

the original (already posted) available here (http://www.mp3.com.au/track.asp?id=35990)


btw: i uploaded this only 2 days ago and mp3.com.au have already got it online :)

[WhiteRhino]

Project 99 - SvM Drumz Mix

Pretty nice track mate...drum work was solid and it cruised along nicely...

Just one thing...pump that bass up abit...volume and low-end...it was abit soft and got lost...

i did like this track though..

[djswitch]

at about 5 mins there is a tribal drum loop that fades in and stays until the end of the track

used waves metaflanger on it. put some headphones on and check it out for depth, truly a LONG 3D PAN!!!

[WhiteRhino]

waves metaflanger....a very nice plugin...i use it all the time!!

[Hydra]

Originally posted by fezzwah
Hi Hydra, you could try uploading on Acidplanet

Thanks Fezz, I'll give it a go. It's taken me this long just to get a track outa my studio and onto a computer on the net. :p lazy

[jibber]

you should check if your ISP offers u webspace. most plans do, and even though its generally only 10 meg, u can have 1 or 2 songs at a time and change them whenever u like. u can upload to your own ISP fast. and its available immediatly, no waiting for shit to be cleared.
only downside is that its not gonna get the same sorta coverage as a site like mp3.com will. but if u just wanna let people u know(kinda) hear it, then it might b a good option.
u should email them and ask.

[Whiplash]

Hey All.

Finally finished my remaster of my first track 'Subsonic Warfare'. I'd really appreciate comments on the quality of the mixdown.. I changed the whole fx/mastering chain and I think it sounds a lot cleaner but I could use some independant ears.

It passed the car stereo test anyway.. :lol:

You can download it here. (http://www.squelchrecordings.com/trax/DJWhiplash-SubsonicWarfare(edit).mp3)
Cheers,

Whippy

edit: It's not the whole track... the whole thing is about 8:15 - too large a file @ 128 Kbps. It's just the main breakdown and peak bit with a little bit of outro.

[N4TE]

whippy subsonic warfare.

Get help. You're a sick, sick individual. That hellish distorted bassline/drum is so, so wrong. I can't even think of what else you could do with it. loose the distortion first, when in doubt, filter, I guess. Or just sample a clean, fat 4/4 kick from somewhere and loop it up. your "breakdown" is glorious. noiiice soundscape, I could stand another three minutes of that synth.

Overall, hot as, you have skills and this is slick, but for that squelching distorted sample of a cane toad being wacked with a 2 wood bass drum thing you've got there. mad. whatever came over you?

note to ITM, Where's the this is mad, a little too mad, but still mad icon?

[phunkdust]

the sub-bass sweep could come up a bit... have a curved boost so the lowest freq's are getting the boost they need but the higher part of the sweep doesnt get boosted (otherwise it would turn resonant... bad.)

the distorted decay on the bass drone (not the kick) is very long and tends to saturate the mix. maybe roll off a little of the high freqs or adjust the envelope for a shorter decay.

other than that it's pretty good

[phunkdust]

Fezzwah - No Warz

Mmmm, love this track, awesome chilled dubby feel to it. Haven't much to say about it, the song as a whole is very good. It could be a little shorter, say around the 7 minute mark? Other than that, excellent.

Glowstick Fukka - I'm A Hard Muthafukka

Whoa! What are you trying to do here? Kill me? I'm not much of a hardcore afficianado, but I'll go to say that it's a decent cheezy track, I like the vocal sample. I'm thinking that theres a little too much bass - the kicks and bass kinda tend to blend... And I think the tuning of the bassline is half a semitone flat.

White Rhino - The Best Fukk

Mmm nice minimalistic breaks venture here, it's pretty slick... The only thing I picked out was the Kick Drum - it sounds like you sampled it off a drumkit with a $2 mic - it's dull and fluffy and has heaps of reverb and a lot of offset. Need a sharper tighter sampled kick here.

White Rhino - Sonic Boom

This is tight! Love how the start is very quiet, and then you come up, drop the sample and run the bass... Fat! The bassline does sound a little muddy. I think it's my headphones - it would sound great on a PA

DJ Switch - Project 99 (Switch vs McGuyver Mix)

Mmmm, slick house here, very tight and groovy, especially when you bring in that nice classic housey synth pad. No further comments on this one, it kicks ass! Would love to hear it go down in a club.

Kaostrophy - It Burns

Not sure about this track? What's it trying to do...? It sounds a bit confused as a track. Need to work on the engineering here - while the track itself is good, the engineering needs work - theres no ambience, it's not tight at all, and the bass is saturating and distorting in some parts.

Tighten it up... Use some FX!

Dan Hurley - Bricks Are Cool

Slick 909 tech here, i like that vocal sample - is that the british twat from that gardening show on ABC? Fuckin hilarious!

The engineering needs a bit of work, tighten it up, and it is really screaming for some stereo seperation.

But yeah, love the vocal sample! "You get a brick, and you sit in on a brick, and if it's still not low enough, you get another brick, and if you want, you can get a load of bricks!!!"

Dan Hurley - Smokin' Like A Joint

Oh my! Far out man, totally radical... I'm thinking I need to dress up in fluro slacks and a sweatband to listen to this track. It's very good, nice and tight, and the samples are good and well-placed.

Engineering, once again - stereo seperation. It sounds terribly dull as a mono mix.

Opiate - Innercity

This is pretty nice, reminds me of an old computer game called Nova Storm - had this raging electronic soundtrack behind it all the way. I think it's in the style of this track, you have all the notes "linked" so everything is pounding away on the same note, giving it the classic computer game effect. Don't get me wrong - it isn't a bad thing - it makes the track flow and gives it some drive
and urgency to the sound. The indian/tribal vocal sample is very cool, it's a perfect addition, and I absolutely LOVE that flute!

Reminds me a lot of 1 Giant Leap, just a lot faster :P

Very slick, love this one. Engineering is pretty good - maybe roll off a little bass overall, and add a little high (like up beyond hearing range ie 18khz) just to make it a little crisper.

Opiate - Bliss

Nice pads at the start, but I think you blew your load early bringing in the big piano... Use a fade in. And I hate to say this dude, but despite this track being an awesome example of hard banging trance, the melody progression you've used has been used before!

Check out Dumonde - Never Look Back (Tiesto Remix)

Brown Dwarf - Backs Against The Wall

Nice mishmash breaks. Very DJ Shadow methinks. I think this has a little too much stereo seperation, sounds like an experiment in flange gone wrong.

Brown Dwarf - Raking The Moon

Have I heard this on radio or TV or something? Love the string sample, and those breaks are fat! But you need to reduce the volume of the strings or boost the breaks - I'd be in favour of boosting the breaks, and tighten them up a little with some top-end boost and maybe a gate.

This track is awesome, love it. Tis going in my favourites folder.

Prier - Depression Session

Theres a concept called FX tense... Just like in english language where you dont mix tenses, in music you generally dont mix FX - in this case you've got the drums going thru a small room reverb effect, and the synth and bassline have a big stadium reverb. It makes the track sound a little odd.

Musically it's very good, I always love a good spot of dark breaks. Keep working on your music and you'll go far. You're already sounding better than me. :P

DJ Switch - Project 99 (SvM Drums Remix)

Is there really much of a difference? You've taken away that nice synth pad and replaced it with some overflanged rhythm samples, which are also too loud in the mix.

This one is much tighter tho in the mix - the bassline is tighter. Try using this bassline in the original?

Brown Dwarf - SunLoungin

Slick! Again nice DJ Shadow mishmashing style here, very good. I think some elements get tedious, like the whistle and the laugh at the end. Other than that I like it, very nice stuff!

[N4TE]

Here's my new dark and dirty ear turd, Dark Path. Get it here (http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?songs=170981&T=4107) along with flamestrike, a deep house thing I did with a mate last year. Only just got around to uploading it. got two ten out of ten reviews within an hour of going up, so I guess it's worth checking out.

RE: DarkPath - didn't have a keyboard to do nice pads so I just made disgusting noises with the tape delay. Reverb on the vocal is way to wet. The highhats are rooted. About the only thing I like about it is the kickdrum. Your comments please?

RE: Flamestrike - amazing what you can squeeze out of a playstation, really. Love the reverse kick heapa, dan.

[Phibbler]

Garrh!
Would people stop loading songs on ACIDplanet. Mp3.com is bad enuff, but at least mp3.com doesn't make you login with a friggin password to listen to songs while the mailbot sodomises you with a 13" long evil spam cock.

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[Phibbler]

Brown dwarf - sun loungin

First ... the whistles suck.... reall hard...

Piano loop is just plain annoying, (sounds like a wanna be sex in the City style type think) but the flute loop makes up for it. Really big fan of that flute.

I like you beat box sessions about 2:00. That's the beat that makes the song.
The guitar doodling is alright ,although it goes on abit
The slap bass is a bit silly, but it's your call.

Why didn't you the chop the "apache" loop up... every man and his dog has used it, do some thing different with it

nice human traffic sample,

I'm sorry ... But i wouldn't put this one on a cd. just feels a bit too slap happy.

[Phibbler]

Whiplash- subsonic warfare.

Quicky this time.

Didn't like it , but not through any fault of your own per se, i just don't like the genre and yours didn't leap out and convince me otherwise.

However, Very Tuff. Gets my Tee Ewe double Eff award. I love that screetchy echo synth . it was the only thing that kept me listening past the intro. i kinda tuned out at a bout 1:30

The bass is evil and i love the weird lfo tweeks. But it's just too brutal and stupid for me dude

[Phibbler]

Nate- Audio infidel- flamestrike

This just makes me sad... too damn depressing to think something this good came out of plastation.....

It's good. except for the silly "top of the morning" it's really good. Love the panning shennanigins you have with open hats. the reverse drone does go on for a little long but the drums are, if not top notch, then one of the notches close to the top.

I'm just depressed now.... curse you and your playstation, making acceptable music.

[Whiplash]

Phunkdust/N4TE/Phibbler,

Thanks for the feedback. I know Dutch hardcore isn't the sort of music that most people like to listen to, so thanks for the balanced perspectives. I'm confident that I'm heading in the right direction. :)

[N4TE]

Originally posted by Phibbler
Nate- Audio infidel- flamestrike

This just makes me sad... too damn depressing to think something this good came out of plastation.....

um, thanks, I think. It's not what you got, it's how you use it. This has been my point all along. you'd don't need five grand worth of software and ten grand worth of hardware to come up with ideas. Nice gear is handy, but if you're keen, you'll do it with what ever is available.

oh yeah, and it's not "top of the morning". That's a sample from Apocolypse Now, "I love the smell of napalm in the morning." (that smell, that gasoline smell. You smell that? Smells like ...victory."):lol:

how everyone gets 'top of the morning' out of that is beyond me, but most do, so *shrug*.

[Hydra]

Okay... finally posted a track, woohoo. I've decided to bypass the megacorps like MP3.com and post it up on my own site. If there is a problem with quality or download etc. please let me know as I may have uploaded incorrectly.

best listened to loud... :)

Scorpio Rising http://www.network-ed.com.au/music/trax.htm

[fezzwah]

Hydra - Scorpio Rising.

Really like this track!!! Very much a proggie break run methinks. Lovely snare work and use of delay here. In the first break down, the chord change kinda caught me off guard, slightly. apart from that a really well structured track!!!! Nice ending too. This sounds as if you created this with DJ friendly mix out point in mind. Look forward to more!!!!

[Phibbler]

N4te- Yes it's a complement... props to ya for squeezing that sound out... i hope thou that the play station music proggy isn't like reason in the respect, that every man and his dog has put at least on track which sounds particully same-ish to everything else same presets and etc.)


Top o the morning ... it's the way you continously trigger it i guess...


Oh and by the way

wont someone have a geez at a track or two?
http://www.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/NSR/
We are thinkin of starting up a live act and we would love some feed back...

[fezzwah]

Phibbler - WOW!

This has me still interested at 04:14. Lovely breakdown. The use of your fills here are prime!! I can't really say anything negative here. Can definitely see me shaking ma fat ass to this!! Like the percussion tease as well.

Great track!! GO OUT AND SHOW EM'

[Phibbler]

this is very good stuff, especially love that beep sound that opens the track. good use of instruments and samples.

maybe the track is a bit too long? 8:52 for a breaks track? maybe needs to be a tad shorter or maybe a couple of BPM faster?

i think the actual break beat needs to be a bit more dynamic - that kick doesnt sound quite right, it sounds more like a 4/4 club kick rather than a breaks kick... it's level is up a little too high too - it really tends to take over the track

the reverb is up way too high. the reverb sounds good but you need to control the amount of it because currently it makes your track sound muddy... reduce the wet a little.

you have some great elements in this track, but they need to change and evolve more - a "bridge" section with a different form of that beat could go down well - generally the track needs to be a little more interesting.

play with a little compression and/or overdrive on the beat - the idea is not to have a distorted clip, but to have the snare and hat sounds clipping slightly to make them nice and crisp

other than that, fix up the dynamics and reverb use, and it's a pretty good track.

First off the bat... Fucking noice one bruffer.

I would have to agree with most of the things phunk dust said. The snare is way too verbed ... compress clip and gate it up .... Everything needs an mild overall tightening.


It does sound like the breakbeat is holding back. Try some off beat emphasis like open hatz or something to swing it along . However i do like the volume of the kik... the song itself is a little long, but it does all flow well together.

What i'm gonna do is take it home open her up in sound forge make myself a radio edit , and it's to the car fo' shore.

V. impressed

[Phibbler]

NFX (paddlepop) -Falling

I would love to tell you that i tottally love this tune, but i can't. But that's not your fault. It's really slick and you have gone above and beyond the call of duty for this number , but i just dont go nuts for this type of song ... got to rush will pm more

[Phorte]

Originally posted by Phibbler
Phorte - Far Away

Phibbler found himself another one for the car here. By crimminy its fucking good .

If you aren't in discussions with record labels , you bloodly well should be .

THe only things i dislike is the plucked sounds goes on for just a little too long, but i don't mind. You are supremely good with the strings, and i've got my thumbs out for your gee-rargin beats. For some reason it reminds of the run lola run soundtrack, even tho they have no resemblence whatsoever.

Wow, thanks for comments Phibbler :D much appreciated!

Personally I don't think I'm good enough to be signed to any labels (ive already been signed to two small record labels in the past) becuase i feel that im not consistent enough (mainly cos I like to compose lots of different styles) and I dont write enough either as I dont really have the time..

The strings are my favourite aspect of this song as well.. :offchops:


Originally posted by phunkdust


Amen to that - I should mention that this track made it on to my coveted "Doug's Nice Tunes" compilation which is a 3CD set that I carry around with me all the time. A perfect cross section of all the music I like. All my favourite tracks. Congrats on being the first ITMer to get a track onto it.

Thanks for comments again PD.. ;D and its an absolute honour to have been included on your compilation. I'm quite ecstatic that you've given it so much attention!

...now how's about a remix of "Far Away"? hehehehe :P

[Phibbler]

Phorte-First class

Dude,.... dude..... godamn it ...... i don't have enuff thumbs. This guy is on the ITM CD certified, fo sure.
In a genre of music i don't enjoy, somehow you have made made something i could enjoy.

goddamn it , i gotta make a new phibbler megamix cd for the car. Curse you, youve shifted the marking curve up for the ITM cd , now i gotta go try really really really hard to even just be mentioned in the same sentence as the shortlist.

Even if the sentence is "That there phibbler anit going any where near the shortlist what with the quality tracks supplied by ol' phorte"

[Phorte]

Originally posted by Phibbler
Phorte-First class

Dude,.... dude..... godamn it ...... i don't have enuff thumbs. This guy is on the ITM CD certified, fo sure.
In a genre of music i don't enjoy, somehow you have made made something i could enjoy.

goddamn it , i gotta make a new phibbler megamix cd for the car. Curse you, youve shifted the marking curve up for the ITM cd , now i gotta go try really really really hard to even just be mentioned in the same sentence as the shortlist.

hahaha you're too much man. :lol: thanks again..

but whats this ITM cd???

[fezzwah]

Completed another Breaky track this time round. Feel free to have a gawk and let us know any feedback you may have..ta!

:) Get Goin' (http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=249645&T=8226)

[djswitch]

thanks for your thoughts phunk. ill try your suggestions with the mixes and compare.

i am getting another mix done from paul leath in sanfran for possible release on tango or nightshift. fingers crossed

[Whiplash]

Man, this is very nice indeed. I particularly like the second breakdown with the single perc hit reverbing away... good depth and atmosphere. I like the hints of strings/classical in it as well. Excellent structuring to the beats, although a couple of extra fills wouldn't have gone astray. And the first part of the track (up to the second breakdown) could use some more top end on the pads and midrange soundeffects (not the percussion, that's crisp enough as is). Other than that... excellent track, excellent production values.

[Whiplash]

Apart from the bassline (very nice subby tones) I couldn't help thinking the beats sounded 'flat'... don't know why... everything sounds pretty clean in the mix and construction is pretty good, but I just got that impression. Cool sample too, but needs extra sounds to complement it - it sorta sounds like the sample, beats and bassline are trying to hold the whole track up by themselves. Overall: It's a cool track but I'm not sure of the direction it was going.

[Whiplash]

Yeaaah.... I was hanging out for that bassline like a salivating junkie and wasn't disappointed when it dropped in. ;D
Very polished. Nice stereo positioning on the beats and cool dark atmosphere replete with Rectangle-esque fight samples. Excellent reverbs and delays, great reverse-crash cymbal. Maybe adjust the overall volume up a bit more as the track moves towards the breakdowns, to give it a nice subtle crescendo that'll add energy to the track. Your kung-fu is strong indeed! 8-)

[WhiteRhino]

Our new breakbeat track...

grab it HERE (http://members.optusnet.com.au/bmorphie/White%20Rhino%20-%20Funkin%20Fat.mp3) or fuck off...;)

[djway]

Originally posted by Phorte


hahaha you're too much man. :lol: thanks again..

but whats this ITM cd???

No, he's not, I agree :) On my first listen now, but Very Very much so like what I'm hearing. Are you producing any more Uplifting/Melodic trance?????

Only bit of the song I don't like is the REAL drum sample @ 0443-0457. It sounds REALLY out of place, it only gets used for 4 bars?(I'm no muso, but a really short time), and sounds too tin-y and non-electro for the rest of the track. Take that out, and i'd give you 4 thumbs up instead of 3.75 :P

Cheers,
--djway

[kenada]

Hey all, I will be putting up about 4 new tracks very shortly, and will keep you all posted.

Mainly, minimal house, techno, a slammin' booty tech track, and a bit of an experiment.

They will be good to go in around 1 week.

[kenada]

Dear oh dear.

I just remembered that i have put a track up onto mp3.com.au just last week or so, and didn't tell you folks about it.

Well it's a really big heavy rolling tribal techno track. Some fella in the states already wants to get it to vinyl.

I don't know tho' you just judge for yourselves. (I know the usual suspects will anyways ;)

It's called Serious Musik, and by definition it surely is.

http://www.mp3.com.au/track.asp?id=42958

Enjoy...

[WhiteRhino]

Kenada - Serious Musik

Yeh this sounds great from word go..

Nice and tribalistic..and would work well on the floor..

Sounds like a mellow BXR track...i personally would like it to hammer and head fukk me...with a big mashing breakdown with pitch and filter tweaks..but thats just my taste.

The only thing i can suggest is filter a few of the perc hits in so they dont "shock" and whack a big fat ride cymbal in somewhere.. but it sounds pretty classy...ill be checking your other traxx out some time soon.

[mungo]

Oi Hydra, where the fuck did you upload the tracks to?

[Hydra]

Oi Hydra, where the fuck did you upload the tracks to?

www.network-ed.com.au/music/trax.htm

[mungo]

Okay peeps here they are have fun :P

Often Out - Rythm Emulator (http://www.network-ed.com.au/music/audio/Often%20Out%20-%20Rythm%20Emulator.mp3)

Already Left - Rythm Emulator (http://www.network-ed.com.au/music/audio/Already%20Left%20-%20Rythm%20Emulator.mp3)