Progessive in Adelaide

[Prog_monster]

Do any of the clubs play any decent Progressive? Im heavily into the Prog stuff e.g Sasha, Sander Kleinenberg, Lucien Foort, Nick Warren, Futureshock, Timo Maas, Slam + stuff played @ Renaissance. All I see is flyers and info for monotone + lifeless bang-bang NRG, Rave and Hard House rubbish, Help!


Erik.

[wackasmuthafukr]

Move 2 Melbourne!!!! We rock progressive style here!! if u like sasha , and sander kleinenberg then you should be here!! Nick warren is a bit more tech trance then progressive but his music rocks none the less . Timo just bangs out any big tune progressive or trancey whatever comes his way he doesnt particularly stick 2 one genre which is good in a way , but sasha and sander are amazing!! Whatever it is that u like melbourne accomadates 4 it all!! we are the party capital of oz and one of the part capitals of the world !! FACT

[Xpose]

Sadly for you Prog i think hes right Adelaide has little to know prog scene.

The warehouse used to cater to it but closed down due to lack of following i think so looking out for Dj''z like Adam Denley in a club lineup would be your best bet in my opinion

[marcus]

I think progressive is growing. I know it is in Sydney. It's always been around but now new club nights are popping up which are more diedictaed to the sound, so there's still much hope I suposse...

[Xpose]

Perhaps in Sydney but it never realy had a following in Adelaide.

There have been a couple of clubs open playing high amounts of progressive Warehouse & Nation about a year ago which have both shut down now due to lack of support.

Also a club called the Future opened maybe 2 months ago and lasted a whole two weeks so unfortunately for fans i dont think adelaide is the place to be

[bynite]

Progressive used to be much bigger in Adelaide a few years back (clubs like the Synagogue and more recently Nation etc.), however it seems to have died of due to the popularity of HH and dare I say Hoovers (shudder). I'm pretty sure that they play a bit of progressive at Absolut Fridays at the Soda Room. I havn't been myself... but thats what they tell me.

Cheers,

bynite.

[odyssey]

woo hoo ! death to progressive !

hoover on !!

[Prog_monster]

Death to progressive? It’s so rampant in the Europe and UK is not funny, look in Mixmag, Musik, Mezzmusic and all the dance music websites.

I hardly call playing hard house and that hoover shite intelligent at all, its just cheese with a monotone bang-bang that all sounds the same. No wonder the Adelaide club scene is so crap, it’s just driven by cheesy Hard House and Raves. When has a hard house tune ever been in the Top 40 in the Europe and the UK, its never even been one has gone in the top tunes of 2000 in Mixmag, and probably never be in 2001 either.

I realise this is Australia, but promoters should promote diversity in music and not stick with one genre and brain wash all the punters, which clearly promoters do the opposite and play virtually nothing but Hard House, NRG rave in Adelaide.

It should be music for music’s sake, not music for money. I don't just listen to Progressive, I like trance, breakz, beats, some house, and drum and bass(non commercial stuff), as well as techno and that’s just to name a few.

In Europe and the UK and most probably other Australian states, they vary their electronic music in the same club and they still rake in the money, take Gatecrasher, Renaissance and Slinky etc…. they play stuff from progressive, techno, hard house to breaks and so on. So they can cater for all the punters.

I listen to all those because I have a open mind, not a closed greedy one...

woo hoo ! Hard House stands for commercialism in Adelaide!

btw, only the promoters have killed progressive in Adelaide clubs because they are one track minded...but Prog. still lives on everywhere else.

[Xpose]

Errrr Since when does a track making the top 40 make it a quality record??!!??

Or are you a Vengaboys/Fragma Fan??

[Prog_monster]

Errrrrrr I am not talking about australian top 40, im talking Europe and UK . Unlike Australia, alot of decent non-cheesy tracks make the top 40 in Europe and the UK.

[Prog_monster]

I do understand that some quality trks doesn't get a top 40 place, but i am just stating a fact about HH.

[odyssey]

each to there own .. If the punter's in Adelaide liked progressive then they would have supported all the progressive clubs that have been and gone ie: Nation, Pure, Warehouse etc etc ..
Blame the promoters all ya like and bag the music all ya like but .. The promoters are obviously doing something right .. every time NRG is in the main room, the main room goes nuts ... can anyone say Timo maas and Dave seamen .. that was one serious flop of a party

anyone get over yourself .. stick to ya top 40 music and have a nice life

[Prog_monster]

Whatever odyssey, stick with your NRG....All the promoters are just in it for the money....not the music. Why don't you get your head out of the Adelaide shell and realise that everywhere else in the UK and Europe, the majority is progressive and NRG is so old its not funny that’s why hardly anyone plays it O'seas.

To come to think of it, I am glad progressive is not played in Adelaide clubs.... then i don't have to suffer the embarrassment of having teenie boppers and guys looking for a root listening to the music thinking they are so cool.

[odyssey]

ok mate no problem !
London of course has no Hard house at all does it ? Frantic, Fevah, Farenheit, Feersum, Trade etc etc .. Hard house is massive in London but obviously your too stupid to see this ..

Progressive is big in most of Europe i agree .. but is it big in London ?

And i for one am in this industry for the music first .. I do monthly hard house events and i do the big raves and ive been pushing HH/ NRG for years and ive lost a shitload of money doing so ..

I think Progressive is on the downslide .. obviously this is just my personal opinion .. Look at the way HH/ NRG is taking over all the major clubs Australia wide and World wide .. Even Ministry is pushing hard house in London now ..

[Xpose]

Prog Monster it is good to see you like your style however you are making yourself look silly with some of your statements.

When was the last time you were in London and checked out the clubs and what they were playing???

You say from reading magazines that Prog is huge and i agree it is through europe but HH/NRG is definetly pushing up to be one if not the most popular style!!!

A question do you even no who the big name HH/NRG DJ''s are because you are quiet possibly reading club lineups in MixMag and not realising what is being played.

Oddy is rite if Adelaide people wanted Prog then clubs like the future would have been a success, Adelaide loves its HH/NRG, DnB, & Tekno as such these get played to crowds who eat it up.

As for promoters being in it for the money i very much doubt it speak to Oddy & Devious about the 2120 tour or Bundi about Too Grand and find out exactly how much money they will loose for quality music to hit Adelaide.

Also as a promoter would it be wrong for them to make money ?? It is there livelyhood its almost like saying you are only going to work for the money (as 95% of us do) Promoters are just lucky (as well as brave) enough to have jobs which they can really love.

[Xpose]

Prog Monster it is good to see you like your style however you are making yourself look silly with some of your statements.

When was the last time you were in London and checked out the clubs and what they were playing???

You say from reading magazines that Prog is huge and i agree it is through europe but HH/NRG is definetly pushing up to be one if not the most popular style!!!

A question do you even no who the big name HH/NRG DJ''s are because you are quiet possibly reading club lineups in MixMag and not realising what is being played.

Oddy is rite if Adelaide people wanted Prog then clubs like the future would have been a success, Adelaide loves its HH/NRG, DnB, & Tekno as such these get played to crowds who eat it up.

As for promoters being in it for the money i very much doubt it speak to Oddy & Devious about the 2120 tour or Bundi about Too Grand and find out exactly how much money they will loose for quality music to hit Adelaide.

Also as a promoter would it be wrong for them to make money ?? It is there livelyhood its almost like saying you are only going to work for the money (as 95% of us do) Promoters are just lucky (as well as brave) enough to have jobs which they can really love.

[Prog_monster]

Just to make it clear, i do know who the big HH djs are (Ed Real, BK, Nick Sentience, Tony de Vit, ) and most of the labels....eg Tidy Trax, Nukleuz, Tripoli Trax etc.

And I do know about Trade and all the other clubs that promote HH.

You may think Progressive is on the downside, I think its on the upside its becoming more popular, media coverage and information I have read had confirmed this, thou i know that HH is on the upside, but it seems it requires a acquired taste to like the stuff.

Can't promoters vary what they play to reach a wider audience? even though HH and NRG might be what draws the majority of punters in, they shouldn't be brainwashed with the same music, as eventually the punters will get sick of listening to nothing but hoovers....I know you cannot simply go from a prog tune to a HH in a set without disrupting the momentum of the music, But wouldn't diversity pull more people in? as they will not get bored of listening to the same thing day in day out. If i was to listen to prog all the time i would be totally put off by it that’s why i experiment with other genres such as techno, DnB, breaks, beats eg Dave Clarke, Underworld, DJ Shadow, Portishead, Massive attack. This way all people are happy and they will have learnt something in the process.

I'm not trying to say HH is absolutely crap, its just not my cup of tea, and some of you might think the same about prog but we need to come up with some sort of compromise so all punters will be happy and will keep on passing through the door, maybe that’s why the promoters are not making a profit.

[odyssey]

but why should i promote something that i dislike ?

[Prog_monster]

I know what you mean, but don't you know anyone who is into progressive, techno or breaks or whatever that you can join forces with? Just a suggestion, maybe you should form a consortium of promoters which will cover a majortiy of the genres to promote an event that would cater for all the punters. Maybe start a survey or something along that line that asks if clubbers would support such an idea in Adelaide.

[Hobbsy]

Prog_Monster.....

I think you should become a promoter and put on some Prog shows....

The DJ's are all cheap......get Mr Oakenfold or Sasha and Digweed in .....Im sure you can stick your neck out for the fee that they want to play a gig......

I assure you that a prog room at a rave would be mostly empty all night....just as a Psy-Trance or goa room would be(in Adelaide at least)

Techno even stuggles in Adelaide in comparison to DnB and Hoovers....

The risk is too high and the rewards to small....result....It aint gonna happen....not unless your supplying the acts for free...

Hobbsy

[odyssey]

i'll just stick to what i know and love ..
Hard house & NRG .. Perhaps get into brendon's ear ..

There is a perfecto party coming up thursday of the june long weekend ..
that might float your boat

[wench]

Being very much a Progressive fan myself, I would have to say check out Soda Room on a Friday night. Other than that, just follow ATB around. The man plays wicked music that takes you to another world!!

[mattyt]

Sorry dude,

It is true, progressive and trance is sadly lacking in Adelaide and all that can be done is possibly hold a bimonthly event with some big names of that scene to try and inject some life into the scene.

Nick Sentience played the Planet to about 300 people last week, awesome set, but dismal turnout.

Time will tell. P.L.U.R.

[heathy]

mattyt i hope u were just mentioning the nukleuz night in passing because progressive/trance sentience certainly dosnt play.his set was ok although for a big rep dj he stuggled to hold alot of mixes,dave dandal on the other hand was excellent.

[mattyt]

I should have included Dave Randell in that post, but the Nucleuz Boys certainly didn't play the genre that the adelaide scene is full of - nu-nrg/hhouse. It was trancey and hard. I really enjoyed the night, and the sets both Nick and Dave played were great. I personally didn't take note of any major flaws in Sentience's mixing, and from what I heard - loved it.

Anyway like I said, Progressive in Adelaide doesn't happen, and the best way to get a following will be to hold events every couple of months, which will require interstate dj's and perhaps internationals.

PLUR

MAttyT

[lastkiss]

Try Soda Friday or Vague Sunday, maybe Cargo etc.

[Halogiiik]

Erik, in response to your original post I suggest you check out "The Loft" on Saturday nights for your fill of progressive, tech house and trancier type tunes. But as this is an older topic you've prolly already been there and done that!!

As for the other hotly debated topic...well...everyone likes what they like because it makes them happy. Be it Hard House or Progressive etc... I'm a progressive fan myself but I also don't mind Hard House (such as Ingo, 12" Thumpers, Andy Farley & Smokin Bert Cooper). But in the end it's whatever flicks your switch.
As promoters' you have to keep the punters happy (after all how many clubs have you seen come and go)...
Every City has it's niche scene...I guess Adel's cause of it's size hasn't got the diverse scenes such as Melbourne & Sydney.

Each to their own I say.
;)

[djdav]

Taste on Friday nights is going to tackle the trance side of things, but I'm not sure about the more progressive side. I guess it depends on the people who turn up. Let's wait and see. Taste isn't a permenant club either. It's going to be every week, but only for little while. Better than nothing I guess. Click over to the Taste website at www.niceonebruva.com and see what's going on. I'll see if I can get someone motivated to create a user poll, and maybe if there's enough support, one of the promoters in Adelaide will give it another go.

Adelaide is very fickle, and suffering a slump on top of winter boredom. Just tour the eastern states or even Perth to see how bad we are right now. Well done to the true supporters in Adelaide who keep turning up every week regardless!