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TristanT
12-Oct-09, 12:10am
The DJ equipment of the future... What do you want to see?
Large platters? Fast song searching? Computer based controllers? Extreme Effects?
What do you want to see and feel? What features do you want it to have? What do you like about current equipment? What works? What doesn’t?
I want to know your take on DJing equipment...
mashedman
12-Oct-09, 12:18am
who cares as long as it has a pioneer logo i'll buy it, industry standard, industry standard
deXXy_Disaster
12-Oct-09, 12:34am
i want built in grenade launchers
Lloyd C
12-Oct-09, 08:22am
two decks linked with a sync button
slackas
12-Oct-09, 08:48am
If this is his FIRST post... what's next?
Matty_neal v2 IMO....
Derelict
12-Oct-09, 09:51am
Players that beam the music directly into your brain with personalised volume control, sound muffling for talking to mates etc.
SlicyDicer
12-Oct-09, 10:01am
Jaded players that make you more jaded every time you spin until you just give up on your DJing dreams and get into accounting
Funkedub
12-Oct-09, 10:05am
i want to see more "less is more "
Sideshow Rod
12-Oct-09, 11:20am
I want to see less dj's turning up to gigs and fucking around for half an hour whilst they setup their laptop/spaceships before playing :thumb:
jakeWilliams
12-Oct-09, 11:22am
omgzgzzgggzz EXTREME EFFECTS!!!!?!?!???!??!:daftpunk: :daftpunk:
Shifty-Sly
12-Oct-09, 11:41am
The DJ equipment of the future... What do you want to see?
Large platters? Fast song searching? Computer based controllers? Extreme Effects?
What do you want to see and feel? What features do you want it to have? What do you like about current equipment? What works? What doesn’t?
I want to know your take on DJing equipment...
Who are you and who do you work for?
Will we get a cut of the profit when you steal all out awesome ideas?
cdj's with lasers attached to their fricken heads
Ben Royal
12-Oct-09, 01:27pm
In all seriousness, I would love there to eventually be the technology where a song can be separated into all the components - ie instantly separate the vocal, and the bass, and the piano, and the drums etc - I think this could make some absolutely incredible 'party' style sets.
i want to see more "less is more "with that attitude you should just stick to playing vinyl :thumb: no features, just pure quality chewnz!
i want to see more midi implementation and one single industry standard interface between mixer/decks/computer installed in every single club in the world. fucking plugging all that shit in is the worst part of the gig.
Who are you and who do you work for?
Will we get a cut of the profit when you steal all out awesome ideas?hahah! this goes perfect with your user name...
*shifty eyes*
JBanger
12-Oct-09, 01:48pm
I chip implanted into the brain where the user can customise their sets completely and produce tunes with their imagination. This would of course be blue toothed back to a cranking pa system !
:rock:
aliasneo
12-Oct-09, 01:51pm
a cdj that also acts as a shot dispenser ;p
TristanT
12-Oct-09, 02:22pm
OK so I don't work for anyone at the moment but am doing a study on DJ equipment design. That was my first post, not sure what's next (I guess this one is).
Some interesting responses so far though, thanks for the feedback to date...
If its about the tunes and what how you manipulate them, what would like to see that can do it better? The questions are broad and your all welcome to answer them as you like...
TristanT
12-Oct-09, 02:30pm
with that attitude you should just stick to playing vinyl :thumb: no features, just pure quality chewnz!
i want to see more midi implementation and one single industry standard interface between mixer/decks/computer installed in every single club in the world. fucking plugging all that shit in is the worst part of the gig.
Not a product plug but do you think that the Pioneer CDJ-2000 is heading in the right direction?
TristanT
12-Oct-09, 02:31pm
In all seriousness, I would love there to eventually be the technology where a song can be separated into all the components - ie instantly separate the vocal, and the bass, and the piano, and the drums etc - I think this could make some absolutely incredible 'party' style sets.
Interesting idea
TristanT
12-Oct-09, 02:33pm
i want built in grenade launchers
I'm not too sure about this idea as it could be somewhat dangerous?
aliasneo
12-Oct-09, 02:38pm
In all honesty something that could keep all decks in sync when adding an acapella or something would go down well...i say give the djs more of a chance to be creative with their mixing and less time trying to keep 3 or more decks in sync...
Funkedub
12-Oct-09, 02:44pm
with that attitude you should just stick to playing vinyl :thumb: no features, just pure quality chewnz!
i want to see more midi implementation and one single industry standard interface between mixer/decks/computer installed in every single club in the world. fucking plugging all that shit in is the worst part of the gig.
I'm talking about interface design as much as features.
Some mixers out there do exactly the same as the next mixer, but their layout can be worlds apart.
I agree with the sentiment that some standard needs to be implemented so some DJs don't take 15 minutes to get their shit together ... and to move out of the way/booth
mashedman
12-Oct-09, 03:37pm
In all honesty something that could keep all decks in sync when adding an acapella or something would go down well...i say give the djs more of a chance to be creative with their mixing and less time trying to keep 3 or more decks in sync...
do it yourself or get traktor
also their is already a file type that allows you to control the volume of all the tracks in the recording. people arent willing to release all the parts to their songs
Shifty-Sly
12-Oct-09, 03:44pm
serious post............ I think everything we have to use now works pretty well, what I do want is to be able to just rock up to the club plug my lappy into the industry standard sound card that the club has installed already and play, that's all im after and suprised it hasn't happend already.
Tristan I think if your gonna make million from designing DJ gear a industry standard sound card should be your 1st project
And dont just put a pio sticker on a serato or traktor box ;)
XiTatiON
12-Oct-09, 04:20pm
A USB port in my neck so i can interface myself directly into Ableton.
slackas
12-Oct-09, 04:23pm
serious post............ I think everything we have to use now works pretty well, what I do want is to be able to just rock up to the club plug my lappy into the industry standard sound card that the club has installed already and play, that's all im after and suprised it hasn't happend already.
If CDJ2000 becomes industry standard...
Laptop >> cdj2000 > link > done: serato or traktor :D
Not a product plug but do you think that the Pioneer CDJ-2000 is heading in the right direction?yep, i reckon it's a step forward for sure. i am sure there will be a CDJ2000 midi map for traktor and other software as well. then, all the clubs need to do is connect those mofos into a USB hub, and let the DJ plug that one last cable into his/her laptop.
A USB port in my neck so i can interface myself directly into Ableton.haha! it's robo-jon! "dead or alive, you're gurning with me!"
I'm talking about interface design as much as features.
Some mixers out there do exactly the same as the next mixer, but their layout can be worlds apart.
I agree with the sentiment that some standard needs to be implemented so some DJs don't take 15 minutes to get their shit together ... and to move out of the way/boothah yeah i see what you mean. like urei! simple, sounds good, does what it's meant to.
i guess the problem is that people want a few of these features, primarily fx and midi integration, but some of that stuff can't just have one knob to control everything otherwise 'less is more' would be more like 'less is fkn complicated' :P then again i'm sure it can be designed in such a way as to become easy to use once you know it.
a cdj that doubles as a sex-box that gives the dj a blowjob mid-set.
I want a powerful virus to attack all cdj and/or mp3/wav files
Also, a couple of laser stylus for my 1200's
macc4 -- http://www.elpj.com/main.html
nifty! no more wearing down your rekkidz, wakka wakka.
actually i wonder how scratching would be on one of these.
deXXy_Disaster
12-Oct-09, 05:20pm
I'm not too sure about this idea as it could be somewhat dangerous?
Many sets are dangerous anyways :corey:
deXXy_Disaster
12-Oct-09, 05:22pm
I'd also like to see a nifty racing stripe or some speed holes
In all honesty something that could keep all decks in sync when adding an acapella or something would go down well...i say give the djs more of a chance to be creative with their mixing and less time trying to keep 3 or more decks in sync...
they have those, it's called the pitch control and it is usually located on the right hand side of the deck
Treason
12-Oct-09, 07:01pm
A ban on all digital djaying.
Vinyl to become the number 1 format again.
pEAkeR_hAT
12-Oct-09, 07:14pm
vinyl !
i always had this idea - pretty much like Ben Royal in this thread - that one day songs might be released digitally in an entirely different format where group elements of the track (drums, bass, vocals, etc) were effectively all separate stems in the one file. maybe this could be done with this new format simply being a container format for a current codec like mp3?...
anyway the separate audio stems would then go through the mixer (would probably need to be sent by a digital signal otherwise youd have alot of audio cables... would be very confusing too!) there would be a regular 3 or 4 eq setup on the mixer, but instead of acting like regular eq's these would effectively be gain knobs for each stem
obviously producers would need to start creating there tracks keeping all this in mind - which i seriously cannot see happening! i can also imagine there being dramas with traditional mastering methods for tracks where engineers are mastering 'master' files
haha had a couple beers tonight so hope this made sense...
aliasneo
12-Oct-09, 09:30pm
they have those, it's called the pitch control and it is usually located on the right hand side of the deck
Ummm yeah bro its cool ive actually got 3 decks already plus traktor scratch pro, i just believe that if they implemented it on the hardware itself it would make things easier, just like u can do it with traktor scratch pro except via the hardware itself, i wud never play out on my mac at the club, like it was suggested above an industry standard sound card for playing on the decks would work wonders!
Anyway just my 2 cents worth like i said i can already do it but why not make it easier, that way more effects can be added. Goodluck bro.
i always had this idea - pretty much like Ben Royal in this thread - that one day songs might be released digitally in an entirely different format where group elements of the track (drums, bass, vocals, etc) were effectively all separate stems in the one file. maybe this could be done with this new format simply being a container format for a current codec like mp3?...
If that happens, it would not be called djing
I think we need a new name for those that don't jockey discs
aliasneo
12-Oct-09, 09:35pm
If that happens, it would not be called djing
I think we need a new name for those that don't jockey discs
Djing is changing bro, this is the digital age where you need to get more creative with your mixing...more so effects and stuff you see that all the time with people who use ableton...as it keeps them in sync. 7 times out of 10 when i dj at a club the guys using either ableton or ts pro.
aliasneo
12-Oct-09, 09:40pm
didnt mean to quote you either macc4...just using the phone at the moment and hit the wrong button.
It's not changing, most dj's mix one tune after another, just like most dj's have always done
All this technology hasn't exactly resulted in mass creativity
fiascoe
12-Oct-09, 10:06pm
I think in the future the emphasis will be on live mixing and writing on the fly. Sets will be completely unique and people will go to see an artist, not a guy who only mixes tracks together. As discussed above all of the lines and inputs will be broken down into single elements basically creating a one man orchestra with the 'DJ' as the conductor. The system will run as a massive server with multiple screens with the artist in the middle controlling all of the elements from individual screens via wireless mouse pointers on the hand. The picture below shows what it will look like (excuse the douche):
From Minority Report
http://www.mkewired.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/minority-report-computer-screen.jpg
Or something like this:
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/articles/images/minority-report.jpg
PATENT PENDING :shiftyeyes:
Papanikolas
12-Oct-09, 10:23pm
^^ kerri chandler has already invented something like that. he talked about it in his red bull academy lecture. he even mentioned minority report, said it looked somethin like that. maybe he used giant touch screens though
fiascoe
12-Oct-09, 10:25pm
Damn. Better call up work and ask for my job back.
i always had this idea - pretty much like Ben Royal in this thread - that one day songs might be released digitally in an entirely different format where group elements of the track (drums, bass, vocals, etc) were effectively all separate stems in the one file. maybe this could be done with this new format simply being a container format for a current codec like mp3?...
anyway the separate audio stems would then go through the mixer (would probably need to be sent by a digital signal otherwise youd have alot of audio cables... would be very confusing too!) there would be a regular 3 or 4 eq setup on the mixer, but instead of acting like regular eq's these would effectively be gain knobs for each stem
obviously producers would need to start creating there tracks keeping all this in mind - which i seriously cannot see happening! i can also imagine there being dramas with traditional mastering methods for tracks where engineers are mastering 'master' files
haha had a couple beers tonight so hope this made sense...
This would be awesome and guess what is already ready for this? Ableton Live.
Instead of just mixing tracks, you can remix everything on the fly. Awesome.
The vinyl-only wankers would all have strokes.
zam and ben royal... if you want to do that why not just make your own tracks???
then you will have all the parts to do all that you need
sounds not that interesting to me
'check it out brah I just switched high hat loops'
'sik now im gonna melt your brains by chucking another high hat loop I bought off someone else'
'Im king of the worlddddd'
sounds like a real dull version of ableton
lol well if you want to think of it like that then fine... i dont see how its 'not djing' either now considering theres ableton, traktor etc these days which could potentially involve less skill... and yes oli g if i was a good producer like tom cosm and such that would be fine, but alas, im not!
im sure if pioneer made this concept work in 2x cdjs and a new djm mixer format, aka no laptops or extra controllers, youd all be beating your dick like it owed you money
Funkedub
13-Oct-09, 08:57am
I think in the future the emphasis will be on live mixing and writing on the fly. Sets will be completely unique and people will go to see an artist, not a guy who only mixes tracks together.
Isn't that what CDJs, DVS and Ableton are about?!
I'm still waiting for the mind blowing creativity and originality to become prevalent in club sets.
IMO, true creativity comes from using the tools you have on hand in a different way ... thinking outside the box.
The technology a lot of people crave is more for convenience than anything else. It's replacing honed skills with pressing buttons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2XMRcWocmA
im sure if pioneer made this concept work in 2x cdjs and a new djm mixer format, aka no laptops or extra controllers, youd all be beating your dick like it owed you money
hmmm that way just doesnt seem feasable at all though
I will say a good dj respects good producers and the cool music they make, imo he shouldnt feel the need to disect every little bit of it and represent it in totally different ways so he can be the one getting all the wraps, what your talking about is remixing on the fly the whole time... yes talent is necessary but I dont think that is djing.. Producers when they play live do this, without your own material your just being a live electronic artist who hasnt made anything..
the idea has some merit (being able to buy the parts of tracks) but the rest of it to me does not sound well thougt out enough at all
i beat my dick like it owes me money. in fact, it does owe me money!
anyway, ben and all the dudes talking about multi tracks, it's already happening. pretty sure i read about it somewhere last year or early this year.
after a quick google i found this: http://www.songgalaxy.com/shop/multi.php
dunno how legit this site is, but all those ableton mashup dudes probably don't give a shit anyway. i can't wait to do the next michael buble remix. gonna be huge!
lol well if you want to think of it like that then fine... i dont see how its 'not djing' either now considering theres ableton, traktor etc these days which could potentially involve less skill... and yes oli g if i was a good producer like tom cosm and such that would be fine, but alas, im not!
im sure if pioneer made this concept work in 2x cdjs and a new djm mixer format, aka no laptops or extra controllers, youd all be beating your dick like it owed you money
go play with fruityloops or garage band whilst you beat your own dick with one hand on the keyboard
mashedman
13-Oct-09, 11:08am
I want a powerful virus to attack all cdj and/or mp3/wav files
Also, a couple of laser stylus for my 1200's
1200s??? thats fucking cheating imo, real men use phonographs
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Caruso_with_phonograph2.jpg/250px-Caruso_with_phonograph2.jpg
Less toys, more quality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1200s??? thats fucking cheating imo, real men use phonographs
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Caruso_with_phonograph2.jpg/250px-Caruso_with_phonograph2.jpg
Dude, i have always wanted to do that, one day i will buy a couple of Phonographs!
http://www.mkewired.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/minority-report-computer-screen.jpg
Or something like this:
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/articles/images/minority-report.jpg
Let me tell you all the reasons why this really scares me:
DJ armin-hands-in-the-air = Pads play at max volume, cut everything else
DJ pumps fist into the air = Kick pumps
DJ slowly raises his hands in the air = snare drum roll w increasing volume
DJ puts arms out like a plane and zooms around the stage = cheesey synth melody plays
DJ jumps and yells comon = scratch loops play
DJ tapdances = adds vinyl distortion
DJ tapdances w cane and top hat = adds vinyl distortion, replaces lead synth with honkytonk piano
mashedman
13-Oct-09, 04:08pm
Dude, i have always wanted to do that, one day i will buy a couple of Phonographs!
would only worth it if you had midgets to wind them up
would only worth it if you had midgets to wind them up
I'm sure i could hire some somewhere!:stroke:
ratticus
13-Oct-09, 05:02pm
not technically a midget, but here (http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=0c5130b0d70ab2d0280f521a720c9196) are some child clowns.
All children are midgets in my book!
ferretrock
13-Oct-09, 05:15pm
Let me tell you all the reasons why this really scares me:
DJ armin-hands-in-the-air = Pads play at max volume, cut everything else
DJ pumps fist into the air = Kick pumps
DJ slowly raises his hands in the air = snare drum roll w increasing volume
DJ puts arms out like a plane and zooms around the stage = cheesey synth melody plays
DJ jumps and yells comon = scratch loops play
DJ tapdances = adds vinyl distortion
DJ tapdances w cane and top hat = adds vinyl distortion, replaces lead synth with honkytonk piano
Francois K often uses an electronic system where he virtually picks up a song with his hand and throws it towards a screen (to load up the next track), a sort of VR thing.
Let me tell you all the reasons why this really scares me:
DJ armin-hands-in-the-air = Pads play at max volume, cut everything else
DJ pumps fist into the air = Kick pumps
DJ slowly raises his hands in the air = snare drum roll w increasing volume
DJ puts arms out like a plane and zooms around the stage = cheesey synth melody plays
DJ jumps and yells comon = scratch loops play
DJ tapdances = adds vinyl distortion
DJ tapdances w cane and top hat = adds vinyl distortion, replaces lead synth with honkytonk piano:lol: GOLD!!!
these would all work so well. do it! your shows would sell out arenas! fuckin tiesto eat your heart out!
fiascoe
16-Oct-09, 02:09am
Isn't that what CDJs, DVS and Ableton are about?!
To an extent yes. But what I meant was I think that crowds will start to appreciate live mixing more and will prefer live artists in the future. Not many punters understand the difference between a live set and a dj set and the majority do not understand the effort, concentration and skill that is required to perform live. These days it is too easy to become a dj but to be a live artist is a step above and can really demonstrate someone's skill and understanding of EDM and music theory in general.
My idea and diagrams were also more based on the visual aspect; the technology is already there.
mixing of 1/4 inch tape reels should be standard.....
honestly i think the ability to use serato and a laptop and just plug one cord straight into the lappy would be ideal. Piss farting around the back of mixers is the only thing holding back products like serato.
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