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i was given a 10pm set the other week and when i rocked up i showed the guy my music and he said my music was more suitable to be played at 12am instead as he wanted more 'chilled out laidback music' playing at 10.
i was wondering what genre of music this is so in future reference i have the right music if i get another gig at say 9 or 10 before the main djs come on and start pumping the mainstream house tunes. im thinking maybe its 'deep house' ? can anyone direct me in the way of some artists or somewhere i can look through ?
thanks.
fiascoe
13-Feb-10, 05:54pm
They should have specified that. For next time you could carry some progressive house and deep house as a back up.
But IMO you should start off chilled and then build up and up, finish with Moby - 1000 and then throw the decks at the crowd while shouting like a mad man. Just an idea, use it if you wish.
avatar_karma
13-Feb-10, 06:58pm
:lol:
Yes, deep house would of been a good idea. Go on beatport and look under the deep house genre. Check out 'Motor City Drum Ensemble' they come out with some wicked stuff.
seth111
13-Feb-10, 11:51pm
Why is someone giving you a set without knowing what you play????
avatar_karma
14-Feb-10, 04:30am
Why is someone giving you a set without knowing what you play????
:lol::lol::lol:
Good call.
Random_Kiwi
14-Feb-10, 07:36am
I smell troll...someone, both person who booked him to play and DJ can't be this retarded, surely???
dj levitate
14-Feb-10, 09:34am
I agree with seth111. But play some tech house. Joris voorn's new stuff, solomun, d'julz etc. is well suited for warm up sets.
TheReturn
14-Feb-10, 11:04am
play christian rock
lol it wasnt at a proper club it was at a small bar but he didnt want me to play the tracks i had early so luckily i was able to swap with the dj playing at 12.
Carte Blanche
14-Feb-10, 02:50pm
Check out 'Motor City Drum Ensemble' they come out with some wicked stuff.
I heartily endorse this event or product. :thumb:
Check out a tune of theirs called Lonely One, if I could name one track that influenced me to expand my usual 120-126 BPM deep and tech house repertoire last year to include a significant amount of material in the 112-119 BPM range along with the space disco I already dabble in in that range, that would have to be it.
Also, ANYTHING by Dana Bergquist & Peder G, Martin Virgin, Shur-I-Kan, Lovebirds, Vincenzo and Marcus Worgull.
I smell troll...someone, both person who booked him to play and DJ can't be this retarded, surely???
Troll or not, any opportunity to discuss quality deep and tech house is a pretty solid win imo.
Joris voorn's new stuff, solomun, d'julz etc. is well suited for warm up sets.
What he said!
avatar_karma
14-Feb-10, 02:54pm
Check out a tune of theirs called Lonely One
:love:
Such a cool track, nice and groovey with a suited vocal. Used it in a warm up I did a couple of weeks ago.
anthonykirby
14-Feb-10, 09:22pm
most of the clubs i went to in the uk the warm up djs would be banging out the tunes.
it made it hard for the big names to crank it!
ferretrock
14-Feb-10, 11:17pm
:lol:
Yes, deep house would of been a good idea. Go on beatport and look under the deep house genre. Check out 'Motor City Drum Ensemble' they come out with some wicked stuff.
MCDE is just one guy...
Mmm, I wouldn't say that deep house is necessarily the winner, it could be good but entirely depends what peak time is..?
Regardless, if it's a bar, I'd be expecting more chilled vibes on the whole. How about some dubby breaks and instrumental hiphop?
turkman
14-Feb-10, 11:29pm
ambient speedcore.
pEAkeR_hAT
14-Feb-10, 11:58pm
AT dnb nights i usually goes
Liquid or Jungle first
Dancefloor mainstream at peak time
Then dark angry stuff till close
pomrocks
15-Feb-10, 09:13am
love all the deep house groupies :lol:
there's no "genre" that is usually played, all comes down to what type of night it is...
trenthalliday
15-Feb-10, 09:39am
love all the deep house groupies :lol:
..
It hurts my eyes.
Random_Kiwi
15-Feb-10, 09:43am
love all the deep house groupies :lol:
there's no "genre" that is usually played, all comes down to what type of night it is...
Exactly! Don't get me wrong, I love deep house, but I wasn't going to carry on like everyone else is for the above reason.
The "genre" which is usually played before a main act, is usually the same fucking genre AS the main act, except it's the more mellow, slightly lower tempo spectrum of said genre.
It astounds me that someone can be so retarded as to even need to ask this! How long have you been "DJing"? How long have you been going out clubbing/bar hopping?
It astounds me even more than the person making the bookings for DJs in a "bar" books someone who they don't even know what they play! A bar DJ is a harder gig than a club DJ, in a club, you can get away with a lot more, there's more people, you set isn't so crucially setting the vibe for the whole place, people who have paid their cover to a club aren't going to walk in, hear you playing crap, have 1 drink and walk back out like they will do in a bar.
This whole thread is :rainman:
Oh, and PS, if you're just DJing at a small bar, neither of you are "the main act", you're just playing!
pomrocks
15-Feb-10, 09:46am
Exactly! Don't get me wrong, I love deep house, but I wasn't going to carry on like everyone else is for the above reason.
The "genre" which is usually played before a main act, is usually the same fucking genre AS the main act, except it's the more mellow, slightly lower tempo spectrum of said genre.
10 points to the Kiwi
However i would love to see how well a deep house warm up for a hard trance DJ would go down
A bar DJ is a harder gig than a club DJ, in a club,
Yep, one wrong track and you could lose a LOT more people than in a club.
TheReturn
15-Feb-10, 10:03am
Exactly! Don't get me wrong, I love deep house, but I wasn't going to carry on like everyone else is for the above reason.
The "genre" which is usually played before a main act, is usually the same fucking genre AS the main act, except it's the more mellow, slightly lower tempo spectrum of said genre.
It astounds me that someone can be so retarded as to even need to ask this! How long have you been "DJing"? How long have you been going out clubbing/bar hopping?
It astounds me even more than the person making the bookings for DJs in a "bar" books someone who they don't even know what they play! A bar DJ is a harder gig than a club DJ, in a club, you can get away with a lot more, there's more people, you set isn't so crucially setting the vibe for the whole place, people who have paid their cover to a club aren't going to walk in, hear you playing crap, have 1 drink and walk back out like they will do in a bar.
This whole thread is :rainman:
Oh, and PS, if you're just DJing at a small bar, neither of you are "the main act", you're just playing!
nice words
Random_Kiwi
15-Feb-10, 10:07am
Thanks, bit of a rant, but such is! :lol:
I usually will play the same genre for a warm up albeit at a lower tempo with tunes that I have dug deep for, not necessarily deep house.
Usually stuff that isn't too popular in that genre or is a bit leftfield or experimental. That way u may not have a packed dancefloor, but people are hearing new and interesting stuff they havnt heard before.. and start to tune into the music.. warming them up. hope that helps somewhat
Sideshow Rod
15-Feb-10, 11:28am
:lol: its not all about deep house
bust out some rare groove's, some jazz inspired beats, some hip hop some funk - pretty much anything that is cool background noise people will tap their feet to as you won't have a dancefloor - your job is to get the dancefloor going
Peakin Pecan
15-Feb-10, 10:15pm
Even though the OP does sound like he might be a little retarded, I think it's a good sign he's coming in here and asking these questions. I shudder to think what kind of dj I would be if I hadnt learnt from this forum. Dave and Kiwi def know what they are talking about, early music doesnt necessarily mean deep house, it is just a slower, cruisier, less-banging variety of the styles usually spun at the particular night.
like Kiwi said, it's important to remember that if you're playing at a smaller bar/pub, you're not the main attraction
i was given a 10pm set the other week and when i rocked up i showed the guy my music and he said my music was more suitable to be played at 12am instead as he wanted more 'chilled out laidback music' playing at 10.
how does someone even show music?
Did you take notes?
trenthalliday
16-Feb-10, 08:42am
Headliner is playing what?
Answer that, and go more laid back.
Fuck its not rocket science.
pomrocks
16-Feb-10, 09:14am
so the standard dj booth answers now are;
What to play on? CDJ2000
What mixer? DJM800
What headphones? HD25
What music? Deep house
so can we close the DJ booth forum now?
Random_Kiwi
16-Feb-10, 09:20am
Fuck its not rocket science.
Exactly! Don't playing 135BPM acid techno when warming up for a house DJ
If you're playing the side room at a multi roomed club for a full fledged par-tay, you're really a lot freer to go with whatever you want, realistically, the person booking the DJs/doing the set times should be slotting people in well so that there isn't major clashes, but it's not uncommon to hear a side room go from electro to banging prog to housey house and right back around again
trenthalliday
16-Feb-10, 09:39am
so the standard dj booth answers now are;
What to play on? CDJ2000
What mixer? DJM800
What headphones? HD25
What music? Deep house
so can we close the DJ booth forum now?
+1
Things are pretty stale around here...sure ITM could clear up a few Gb of space on their server if they merged all the threads that were the same together...
slackas
16-Feb-10, 09:49am
^^you're both jaded.
trenthalliday
16-Feb-10, 10:06am
I am a certain shade of jade.
Funkedub
16-Feb-10, 10:13am
There's something fundamentally wrong with the situation in the OP ... actually numerous things.
You don't need to be an experienced DJ to answer the question ... if you've been out to enough venues, clubs it should be self evident.
Oh yea, and who the hell shows their music collection to the manager before a gig?!?!
Yes, hurray for technology for making DJing more accessible ... and boo-hiss for creating a breed of jockeys who can't even work out the most fundamentally aspects without having it spelt out to them.
bulldozer
16-Feb-10, 10:16am
so the standard dj booth answers now are;
What to play on? CDJ2000
What mixer? DJM800
What headphones? HD25
What music? Deep house
so can we close the DJ booth forum now?
oh hai i haev 1500$ to spend on my first decks. wich wuns shood i get?
pomrocks
16-Feb-10, 11:01am
I am a certain shade of jade.
I'm a Jade Budda
slackas
16-Feb-10, 11:17am
I'm a Jade Buddha
fixt... :whyioughtta:
well that's fucking crap. i would like the early night genre to be jazz, hip hop, funk and soul. then house getting gradually 'harder' and then fucking whatever you want. arse raping drum & bass is fine. same music all night is booooring!
The hardest part of being a DJ is doing warm up sets. Most DJ's get it totally wrong and I laugh every time I see some noob playing hard stuff in whatever genre early and too loud.
As a promoter it falls on you to get it right and employ the right people to get the job done not some noob that has no idea of what to do. Makes it hard to get your foot in the door when your new but you gotta learn the ropes first.
genebourne
16-Feb-10, 02:25pm
hey Spicy
a serious question here :P
where is a good place to look for the jazz/hip hop/funk/soul that you speak of?
i want to put together at least a few cds worth of this stuff for those seldom times i fill in somewhere early and where i think it would suit.. but i dont really know where to start looking. any sites you can recommend? cds?
Random_Kiwi
16-Feb-10, 02:31pm
It takes some digging, but there's a fair stack of stuff on Beatport under the "breaks" catagory which is funk braeks, groove, soul type stuff...you can even do sub-genre of big beat or funk breaks to narrow it down, but really, their genrefication is pretty off at the best of times.
But last I went hunting on there, I left with 20+ tracks which ranged from 101BPM through to 128BPM, Jayl Funk, Kidda, Mark Walton, Quincy Jointz...some great stuff on there!
There's something fundamentally wrong with the situation in the OP ... actually numerous things.
You don't need to be an experienced DJ to answer the question ... if you've been out to enough venues, clubs it should be self evident.
Oh yea, and who the hell shows their music collection to the manager before a gig?!?!
Yes, hurray for technology for making DJing more accessible ... and boo-hiss for creating a breed of jockeys who can't even work out the most fundamentally aspects without having it spelt out to them.
It's very hard to take the piss out of you when you say the right things :whyioughtta:
TheReturn
16-Feb-10, 02:49pm
hey Spicy
a serious question here :P
where is a good place to look for the jazz/hip hop/funk/soul that you speak of?
i want to put together at least a few cds worth of this stuff for those seldom times i fill in somewhere early and where i think it would suit.. but i dont really know where to start looking. any sites you can recommend? cds?
Online:
http://www.turntablelab.com/
http://boomkat.com/
+
the blogosphere
Real Life:
Record Shops
Sideshow Rod
16-Feb-10, 03:15pm
Online:
http://www.turntablelab.com/
http://boomkat.com/
+
the blogosphere
Real Life:
Record Shops
you can also find some (limited) stuff on the more popular sites (beatport / djdownload), best bet is get to know your local record shop owner and speak to them
TheReturn
16-Feb-10, 03:38pm
oh and of course juno digital
genebourne
16-Feb-10, 03:58pm
ok sweet cheers lads :thumb:
ill let you know how i go
Underdog
16-Feb-10, 04:58pm
take some soul, funk, house, hip hop, disco, beats, deep house - should cover all bases, TBH if its a bar gig you really should take a wide range of stuff as people are more there to listen to a varied selection of interesting stuff, than banging it out all night, alos crowds in bars can turnover rapidly so you need to cater for changes in the patrons
hey Spicy
a serious question here :P
where is a good place to look for the jazz/hip hop/funk/soul that you speak of?
i want to put together at least a few cds worth of this stuff for those seldom times i fill in somewhere early and where i think it would suit.. but i dont really know where to start looking. any sites you can recommend? cds?yep, go through stompy - it has a bit of good in it. for stuff like funk & soul though, i suggest digging for it at 2nd hand record shops, or discogs.
edit; yea what they said - dig dig dig!
Ben Royal
17-Feb-10, 09:37am
If you dont know what to play at the timeslot you are given you probably arent ready to play there.
KillaKowalski
17-Feb-10, 11:23am
There's something fundamentally wrong with the situation in the OP ... actually numerous things.
You don't need to be an experienced DJ to answer the question ... if you've been out to enough venues, clubs it should be self evident.
Oh yea, and who the hell shows their music collection to the manager before a gig?!?!
Yes, hurray for technology for making DJing more accessible ... and boo-hiss for creating a breed of jockeys who can't even work out the most fundamentally aspects without having it spelt out to them.
this.
love all the deep house groupies :lol:
there's no "genre" that is usually played, all comes down to what type of night it is...
progressive is the new deep house, which was the new techno, which was the new electro, which was the new house
JulesPLees
19-Feb-10, 06:52pm
OP - Why do you dj?
sHaRp-b0y
19-Feb-10, 10:55pm
If you dont know what to play at the timeslot you are given you probably arent ready to play there.
Word
Rogan Josh
20-Feb-10, 02:47pm
Play whatever displays your personality.
Lock this dreadful thread, it's very hard to read.
For fuck sake, if you don't know what tunes to play you simply are not a DJ.
Sign of the times when you can be this green and still get gigs.
dazthedominant
22-Feb-10, 01:29pm
definantly ask the promoter in the future exactly what type of music would be preferred before the said time. i'm all for bringing it down a notch to make the headliner shine, but i play alot of my tunes and the organisers of events know this, yet still once in a while i'll get asked to play something more 'disco-ey'. alot of the problem is the organiser's decisions to fill the time slots with the wrong djs.
Random_Kiwi
22-Feb-10, 02:16pm
alot of the problem is the organiser's decisions to fill the time slots with the wrong djs.
Yep...nothing worse than a person booking the entertainment who doesn't have a clue.
There is also the problem of inflexible dj's, whose crate/wallet has a +/-5% bpm range. A good dj should be able to fill any slot
Funkedub
22-Feb-10, 02:23pm
A good dj should be able to fill any slut
:-O
language macc4 !!!
dazthedominant
22-Feb-10, 02:23pm
There is also the problem of inflexible dj's, whose crate/wallet has a +/-5% bpm range. A good dj should be able to fill any slot
i do agree with you there. a dj who prides themself as a DJ should be able to do this
without a doubt. i try my best to cater for the crowd i'll be djing for, but i can't find the time to dig and find the cream of the crop from each 'genre', so i'll steer clear of gigs which aren't up my alley, which i think anyone should do if they aren't equiped with a boatload of music.
Random_Kiwi
22-Feb-10, 02:43pm
There is also the problem of inflexible dj's, whose crate/wallet has a +/-5% bpm range. A good dj should be able to fill any slot
Don't know about that, eh? Speaking as someone who cut his teeth on turntables and vinyl, that shit is expensive, keeping up with just a handful of genres was tough, let alone collecting downbeat/funk/soul/jazz/disco et al, too.
There's nothing wrong with a +/- 5% BPM range, if you only want to make yourself know as a house DJ, why would you have 100-BPM or 140+BPM tracks? And beside, if all you want to play is house, slow tempo house would be fine in this kinda place.
Another point, you should only ever DJ tracks/genres you love, if you don't love downbeat nujazz fusion, don't play it...if that's what is required for the gig, let someone who is passionate about that genre play it.
You can't be everything, to everyone, as they say ;)
most genres have a large range, 120 - 140 bpm would suffice for most situations in the genres I am interested in
Random_Kiwi
22-Feb-10, 02:48pm
Ditto, though more slower and less fast as I'm am liking the downbeat/funk-breaks stuff recently...I don't think I'd ever go above 130BPM personally, even the breaks I like I like slower than that.
Point is, if you plum don't like 100BPM-120BPM downbeat funk stez, don't take a gig requiring that stuff, you'll just make a hash of it compared to someone with passion for the sound! :lol:
e.g house DJ playing a hip hop set...yes, some might have the depth and passions and skills to pull it of, most wouldn't
TravGTi
22-Feb-10, 06:09pm
Is it just me or was the original question about as vague as asking "what food do they serve before the main meal comes out in restaurants?"
base615
22-Feb-10, 06:34pm
Is it just me or was the original question about as vague as asking "what food do they serve before the main meal comes out in restaurants?"
What do you mean? I just go straight for the Big Mac
Funkedub
22-Feb-10, 07:35pm
Don't know about that, eh? Speaking as someone who cut his teeth on turntables and vinyl, that shit is expensive, keeping up with just a handful of genres was tough, let alone collecting downbeat/funk/soul/jazz/disco et al, too.
There's nothing wrong with a +/- 5% BPM range, if you only want to make yourself know as a house DJ, why would you have 100-BPM or 140+BPM tracks? And beside, if all you want to play is house, slow tempo house would be fine in this kinda place.
Another point, you should only ever DJ tracks/genres you love, if you don't love downbeat nujazz fusion, don't play it...if that's what is required for the gig, let someone who is passionate about that genre play it.
You can't be everything, to everyone, as they say ;)
To be honest, i never considered the BPM and genre of tunes i was buying as my vinyl collection of EDM grew ... i even made a point of picking up compilations with a variety of sounds and tempos on them. Even the albums i'd buy did this ... Leftfield, Chemical Brothers, Freestylers etc.
I've also never really grasped why people limit themselves to a narrow range of sound ... "hi, i'm a house DJ" or "hi, i'm a DnB selectah". Granted in the past it might well be a matter of necessity ... but in the digital era there really is no excuse (apart from suffering musical myopia) for only having a strict range of genre and tempo in your collection.
That's not to say you have to cover everything .. but it's hardly a challenge to expand you musical horizons.
dazthedominant
23-Feb-10, 09:26am
thats true funkedub, my music collection spans a whole load of genres, but DJing wise i tend to focus more on house (and its gazillion subgenres haha) because i have more passion for
this and sometimes when a DJ is playing music they have no passion for, you can feel their lack of vibe through their sets.. or something like that. but to each their own!
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