Beginner DJ

[dj-romtek]

Hi I am thinking of buying a DJ system, 2 turntable (CD) and a mixer, but dont know what is the best setup (im a beginner) and the price reasonable for a 16 yo. :)

Maybe a 4-Channel Mixer with 2 entry level turntables (so i can upgrade the setup to 2 entry and 2 professioal turntables)

thanks

[Justin_m23]

www.djwarehouse.com.au

[camlv]

Hi I am thinking of buying a DJ system, 2 turntable (CD) and a mixer, but dont know what is the best setup (im a beginner) and the price reasonable for a 16 yo. :)


Don't buy pioneer then.

[camlv]

www.djwarehouse.com.au

I think we can close this thread now

[ultim8DTM5]

Become mates with someone who already owns the gear

[Spicy]

2 entry level turntables (so i can upgrade the setup to 2 entry and 2 professioal turntables)you can always have your turntables raised to a higher level by using a forklift.

[Bumpy]

if you're a beginner all you need is a 2 channel mixer.. unless of course you want to be mixing between 3 or 4 decks simultaneously..

[lurker]

Yeah most beginners start with 3 or 4 decks.

[pEAkeR_hAT]

Numark DXM06 mixer, Pioneer CJ400 , + i wouldn't DJ if u r only 16, better of playing with your mates lol

[Sideshow Rod]

look for some second hand gear to get you started

[underhousearrest]

if you're a beginner all you need is a 2 channel mixer..

this.

I've been mixing for 3 years, only upgraded my mixer december 2008, still take my 2 channel to house parties, etc. cos it is smaller/more convenient/who gives a shit if it breaks.

[Tom McGuinness]

Yeah most beginners start with 3 or 4 decks.

haha.

[J0rdz]

if you're a beginner all you need is a 2 channel mixer.. unless of course you want to be mixing between 3 or 4 decks simultaneously..
Agreed.
Im sick of the mentality of some of younger DJs out there. Majority are under the impression that if you dont own a DJM800 and a pair CDJ1000s (at the least) you'll never have a chance at becoming a good DJ. They need to realize that equipment doesn't make the DJ!

Pisses me off seeing these spoilt little 16yo's running round with CDJ2000s that mum and dad bought them and not having any kind of idea on how to actually DJ.

[dj-romtek]

I have used www.djwarehouse.com.au to select a Dj system, (I will be hooking it up to my PC so it will be a Digital DJ System) and am tossing up between these three from Stanton:


http://www.djwarehouse.com.au/djgear/digital-dj/all-in-one-systems/stanton-scs-3-digital-dj-system.html
http://www.djwarehouse.com.au/djgear/dj-packs/cd-dj-packs/stanton-324-dj-pack.html
http://www.djwarehouse.com.au/djgear/dj-packs/cd-dj-packs/stanton-digipak-pro-v4-dj-pack.html


But am leaning towards the Stanton 324 Pack

what do you guys think?

[pEAkeR_hAT]

I think you'll grow out of all of that in 6 months and try to upgrade but you won''t be able to offload the cdjays or mixer for more than $500

[prjkt]

I started off with a pair of Stanton Turnies and a cheap tascam 2ch mixer, upgraded a couple of months ago to a Xone:22 - still don't need a four channel mixer at home, can just hit the line/phono switch to go between vinyl/laptop

EDIT: if you're just running of a computer, get a pair of these (http://www.storedj.com.au/products/product.php?id=2474) and a decent 2 ch mixer. The XP5s are pretty club-friendly too, they'll sit on top of a CDJ1000 and plug into the existing mixer there. That's how I roll when I play out

[shadow739]

I have used to select a Dj system, (I will be hooking it up to my PC so it will be a Digital DJ System) and am tossing up between these three from Stanton:

But am leaning towards the Stanton 324 Pack

what do you guys think?

I had the Stanton C324's and they're not bad for beginners. I started on 2 cheap turntables (never heard of the brand that's why I can't remember what it was) and a mixer from Dicksmith back in 1992. I'm glad I started on turntables.

But the cost of buying vinyls was starting to annoy me. And buying MP3's are a lot cheaper I then bought 2 C324's. After awhile I got sick of burning MP3 cd's. So I upgraded to the Reloop RMP3's. I know the RMP3's are probably out of your budget. Like I mentioned the C324's are good to start off.

[Bumpy]

Agreed.
Im sick of the mentality of some of younger DJs out there. Majority are under the impression that if you dont own a DJM800 and a pair CDJ1000s (at the least) you'll never have a chance at becoming a good DJ. They need to realize that equipment doesn't make the DJ!

Pisses me off seeing these spoilt little 16yo's running round with CDJ2000s that mum and dad bought them and not having any kind of idea on how to actually DJ.


To true!

I have cdj-100's have had them for 3 years and they are going fine... and i know plenty of dj's who have 800's or 1000's who cannot beatmatch for shit and rely on the bpm counter..
They even ask me how do i mix on 100's if they dont have bpm counters...

+ I have a 4ch mixer and only ever use 2 channels on it at a time..even though i have 2 cdj's and 1 TT


Buy some second hand stuff, not to expensive, see if you like it and if you want to continue djing rather then blowing 5g straight up

[Peppy]

It's always amusing how these threads draw out the jaded.

[lurker]

Hey it's Peppy! How's your djing going?

[Peppy]

Hey it's Peppy! How's your djing going?


Eh it's not really :(

I started a new job and shiz and it's in the city, where I stay during the week. All my gear is back up home so its kind of a pain.

Although it's good at the same time because I am just building up my collection of music which I hear is pretty important :P I started a dub group on fb for sharing music. Haha serach Dub me.

[lurker]

Bummer...

Building a collection is important, but so's practicing. But then so's other things in life... just make sure you get a few hours in when you're home on the weekends. :thumb:

[slackas]

sharing music.

hmmm....

[Peppy]

hmmm....


I spy a high horse. I only post youtube links. I did tell a friend where to get illegal downloads but I don't post illegal downloads myself.

[Tom McGuinness]

To true!

I have cdj-100's have had them for 3 years and they are going fine... and i know plenty of dj's who have 800's or 1000's who cannot beatmatch for shit and rely on the bpm counter..
They even ask me how do i mix on 100's if they dont have bpm counters...

+ I have a 4ch mixer and only ever use 2 channels on it at a time..even though i have 2 cdj's and 1 TT


Buy some second hand stuff, not to expensive, see if you like it and if you want to continue djing rather then blowing 5g straight up

to a point for sure.. but then there are some people (like myself) that if think 'if im going to fork out coin on something, i wanna at least get the best i can'

I will often save for longer, so i can afford better shit, if im gunna do it, might as well do it once so i dont get 3 months down the track and go 'fuck, i want newer/better/more powerful tings'

its like anything in life, some people buy a car that gets them from A to B, others like to spend money on a new/nicer/flasher car because it looks better or is faster or does shit the normal one doesnt..

but i do agree with your points as well.

[shadow739]

but then there are some people (like myself) that if think 'if im going to fork out coin on something, i wanna at least get the best i can'

I will often save for longer, so i can afford better shit, if im gunna do it, might as well do it once so i dont get 3 months down the track and go 'fuck, i want newer/better/more powerful tings'

its like anything in life, some people buy a car that gets them from A to B, others like to spend money on a new/nicer/flasher car because it looks better or is faster or does shit the normal one doesnt..

but i do agree with your points as well.

I agree with you. I was the kid that would rather buy cheap things than buy expensive quality stuff. But in the long run most of the time it end up costing me more. So now I do a research about products and find out what is the best. And when the best gets way over my budget in some cases I'd go for the second best product or just save up.

I really don't like second hand stuff (apart from second hand tools) especially and I mean ESPECIALLY my DJ gear.

Now back to the topic what did the OP end up getting?

[Spicy]

I spy a high horse. I only post youtube links. I did tell a friend where to get illegal downloads but I don't post illegal downloads myself.so you admit to pirating music though?

[Peppy]

so you admit to pirating music though?

I admit, I do download some stuff illegally. However I do buy songs as well. Have you ever downloaded a mix from ITM or another site? I am sure that most people here have, and isn't that pirating music as well?

[fiascoe]

Not if they pay the royalties... which ITM and most professional DJs do.

[Peppy]

Not if they pay the royalties... which ITM and most professional DJs do.

I do realise this, but I am talking about in the forum. I am sure not every DJ who has uploaded and shared on ITM has gone through APRA accordingly. My point is that I don't think everyone who gets all worked up over illegal downloading has a right to, if you are an internet user and you like music it seems impossible not to. Seems a bit hypocritical that's all.

[fiascoe]

Ah, gotcha, thought you meant ITM-FM.

[shadow23]

Well I have checked out various website and am thinking of spending $2500 max.

I have two options in mind.
Pack 1
2x Pioneer CD MK2 2x $909
1x Numark X9 Mixer $520 OR Behringer DDM4000 $520 OR Behringer DJX750 $350

Or this set-up

Pack 2
2 x Reloop RMP-3 CD Players 2x $890
1 x Reloop RMX40 Mixer $790
As Pack $2390 ($200 cash back to spend in store {maybe buy headphones})


I'm not sure which one to choose but am leaning towards the Pioneer (Pack 1), only problem dont know which mixer to get, plus what headphones I should get.

Any recommendations appreciated,
Daniel

Although Pioneer is the industry standard of cd decks. I'm happy I bought the Reloop RMP3. you can't go wrong with Pioneer (which seems you made up your mind anyway but need confirmation on getting the Pioneer). I on the other hand would get the RMP3 because you get more features. Like I said you can't go wrong with Pioneer. Just can't help you with a mixer though.

[mortarman]

get the pioneers 800s. dont get any of those mixers. imo you are not going to need 4 chan if your a begginer. trust me. warehouse have xone 22 on special for $380. if you buy any of those other mixers you will be forking out for a new 1 within a year at the most. so you may as well get the xone and a good pair of headphones and save up for a bigger mixer in the meantime. then you will have a professional setup from the get go, will last you for years! no brainer imho.

gewd luck with wateva ya choose : )

[dj-romtek]

Although Pioneer is the industry standard of cd decks. I'm happy I bought the Reloop RMP3. you can't go wrong with Pioneer (which seems you made up your mind anyway but need confirmation on getting the Pioneer). I on the other hand would get the RMP3 because you get more features. Like I said you can't go wrong with Pioneer. Just can't help you with a mixer though.
hmmmm can't seem to find my post you qouted on which is newly edited.... wierd. but yea i didn't see that the reloop's were RMP-3's thought they were RMP-2 hence the low price. I am thinking of getting the reloop's pack for the low price and features.

[dj-romtek]

Thought it through and going for the Reloop, with the $200 cash back (to use it towards another item in their store) what type of headphones should i get...

Pioneer HDJ1000 DJ Headphones
Reloop RHP10 Black DJ Headphones
Allen & Heath Xone X D 53 DJ Headphones

all about the same dB level, frequency and price ($30 diffrence between lowest and higest costing)

[DJBT]

Thought it through and going for the Reloop, with the $200 cash back (to use it towards another item in their store) what type of headphones should i get...

Pioneer HDJ1000 DJ Headphones
Reloop RHP10 Black DJ Headphones
Allen & Heath Xone X D 53 DJ Headphones

all about the same dB level, frequency and price ($30 diffrence between lowest and higest costing)

specs on headphones men jack, go and try them out same with the CDJ's have a play and buy what you like...... fuck im sick of these threads

[shadow23]

Thought it through and going for the Reloop, with the $200 cash back (to use it towards another item in their store) what type of headphones should i get...

Pioneer HDJ1000 DJ Headphones
Reloop RHP10 Black DJ Headphones
Allen & Heath Xone X D 53 DJ Headphones

all about the same dB level, frequency and price ($30 diffrence between lowest and higest costing)

Well you won't be disappointed with the RMP3. I'm quite impressed with it. You can always try it out at the DJ Warehouse before you buy it. I'm happy with my purchase. At least I don't have to burn cd's anymore I either use a usb stick/hdd or use it with Traktor Scratch Pro.

[rift]

Thought it through and going for the Reloop, with the $200 cash back (to use it towards another item in their store) what type of headphones should i get...

Pioneer HDJ1000 DJ Headphones
Reloop RHP10 Black DJ Headphones
Allen & Heath Xone X D 53 DJ Headphones

all about the same dB level, frequency and price ($30 diffrence between lowest and higest costing)

I wouldn't recommend buying the HDJ1000 headphones (I may upset some people by saying this) but they do not last. 2 mates have had the same problem as me where by 18months down the track the swivle joint starts to break up. Poor design. I know some people will have had them for years with no problems but it only takes one drunk mate to get on yours decks one day and stretch them over their head the wrong way to impart a permanent split in the joint.

The second paid I got have been the technics rp-dh1200 and they are still going strong 2 years later. The pioneers got me through 1 club gig and it was at the after math the next morning a mate (Chemical James actually :P) showed me the big split I didn't even know was there lol. Have a listen to them all though, you may prefer the lighter punchier style of the popular senheiser hd-25's (should be another option) to the bass heavy technics and the similar pioneers. Havn't tried the others you have mentioned personally.

[JBanger]

Hi mate,

How about I save you the trouble of going out and spending thousands on gear that you may or may not get sick of.. and at the end of the day you will still have more than enough to spend on tracks, headphones and decent speakers.

I started out the Behringer BCD 3000 mixer that comes with a free version of traktor for your PC, and when I decided I did want to pursue DJing I then went out and bought the pioneer industry standard gear to prepare me for playing out.

FYI the BCD 3000 is basically a mixer + 2 cdjs in a single unit.

The beauty of doing that was that if in fact If didn't feel the need to pursue professional DJing then I wouldn't have let thousands go to waste on considerably more expensive gear. The best part was that when I sold my BCD 3000 I still go $220 for it so I only lost $100 on it in total !

Check out the BCD 3000 here, retails for $329 --> http://www.storedj.com.au/products/product.php?id=1463

Also in regard to headphones the Sennheiser HD215s are great bang for buck ($139) and very reliable --> http://www.storedj.com.au/products/product.php?id=685

All you need then is a decent pair of studio monitors, no point buying all the gear only to hear it sounding shitty out of shit speakers. The KRK RP5 G2 5 inch Powered Studio Monitors again are excellent monitors and great bang for buck ($519 for the pair), a friend of mine has had his for years and they still sound mint.

--> http://www.storedj.com.au/products/product.php?id=1998

All up this complete setup will set you back $987 at retail price which as I said leaves you plenty for purchasing tracks and other bits and pieces.

A lot better than spending $2500 + headphones and speakers while your in high school right..

Hope this helps mate

[fabd]

get the pioneers 800s. dont get any of those mixers. imo you are not going to need 4 chan if your a begginer. trust me. warehouse have xone 22 on special for $380. if you buy any of those other mixers you will be forking out for a new 1 within a year at the most. so you may as well get the xone and a good pair of headphones and save up for a bigger mixer in the meantime. then you will have a professional setup from the get go, will last you for years! no brainer imho.

gewd luck with wateva ya choose : )

I would have to agree.

Buy something cheap second hand and in good condition.
A cdj800 mk1 second hand is a good deck.
It has all the essentials, you need, vinyl which will allow you to be much more creative for longer.
The autoloops on the 800s aren't that great I find their timing off but its better than nothing like on the 1000s.
Its the same size jog wheel as a 1000 so you feel completely at home on them.

Good points is that there is
- no lock on the eject button
- no auto resume if you accidentally eject the disk
- theres no hold cue and play like on the 800mk2 or 1000mk3
- no id3 tag read out (and you never get those errors when people attach supid characters to mp3 tags or put 5mb coverart)
- no mp3

Why is it a good point?
Ask any experienced dj here on the forum and they tell you the same.

First of all, no club dj burns on mp3s,
- wave form takes longer to produce
- takes longer to use
- you get in the habit of folders and all this other bullshit
- one day your going to come across a cdj like a mk1 mk2 which doesn't support mp3 and you be stuffed
- also wavs are better quality (assuming you actually have a wave)

when you burn audio on cds you also think more about what tracks you put on to a cd, how many you need to put on etc

not having a read out on your screen also makes you have to organise your self cds in a folder and write the track listing on both, and it also forces you to better listen and know your songs better than just pressing play

not having autoresume, actually teaches you lessons at home when you accidently hit eject on the wrong deck in the mix to always concentrate


and finally not having the cue-play (can be a disadvantage in creativity)
makes you think more harder about dropping in a track, when you cue to beat match you can just get it bang on and just roll with it and press play, so you have to plan your mix out more, choose your tracks carefully, count bars etc.
again many clubs still have cdj1000s mk 1s and 2s which dont support this feature and heaps of djs are lost when they come to them.

I did a party the other night which I haven't done since I ewas about 16 and I needed large amounts of shitty mobile dj music, since I never do it, it would of been hell if I couldn't of burnt music as Mp3s, having the option of USB would of also been heaven sent for that one off, but at a club you can't bring your equipment with you (you wouldn't want to) so all the advantages of them are lost

[dj-romtek]

I would have to agree.....

Well the only reason was thinking of getting the Reloop R-MP3 was because it came in a package with mixer and all for under $2500, i only leaned towards them was because of the value for money.

if i do get the Pioneer CDJ800MK2's which is $1818 for two, i would only hav $682 left for headphones, mixer and a pair of speakers which apparently i need as mentioned before. -$125 for the headphones mentioned above and im left wth $557 for mixer and headphones.
if someone could recommend me a good mixer i could buy for around $500. i am considering adding another $200 towards my mixer if needed.

[rift]

if someone could recommend me a good mixer i could buy for around $500. i am considering adding another $200 towards my mixer if needed.

Xone 22 - $380, Bargain. Prolly the best mixer in terms of sound quality you'll get for a mixer that price. The filter is ace too as it's analog. Do you really need 4 channels? You can still run 2 cdjs and 2 turntables with this, just can't play all 4 at the same time.

http://www.djwarehouse.com.au/djgear/dj-mixers/dj-mixers/allen-and-heath-xone-22-dj-mixer.html

[dj-romtek]

Xone 22 - $380, Bargain. Prolly the best mixer in terms of sound quality you'll get for a mixer that price. The filter is ace too as it's analog. Do you really need 4 channels? You can still run 2 cdjs and 2 turntables with this, just can't play all 4 at the same time.

http://www.djwarehouse.com.au/djgear/dj-mixers/dj-mixers/allen-and-heath-xone-22-dj-mixer.html

ohk and no i dont need 4 channels, maybe later down the track (if i persue Djing and get 2x 1000MK3 with these CDJ800MK2 will i need a 4 channel (DJM800 in mind)

[fabd]

Well the only reason was thinking of getting the Reloop R-MP3 was because it came in a package with mixer and all for under $2500, i only leaned towards them was because of the value for money.

if i do get the Pioneer CDJ800MK2's which is $1818 for two, i would only hav $682 left for headphones, mixer and a pair of speakers which apparently i need as mentioned before. -$125 for the headphones mentioned above and im left wth $557 for mixer and headphones.
if someone could recommend me a good mixer i could buy for around $500. i am considering adding another $200 towards my mixer if needed.

I don't believe in buying cdjs brand new, I think you should get a mixer brand new. but 1818 for a mk2 is a rip off, I bought my mk3s for about 100 more over a year and half ago.

you be fine with a 800mk2 it will shit over any other cdj and you get them brand new, or if you want the 1000s at least get a mk3 for around that price.

I would also look at the cdj400 they have a very good feature set, they are practically a 1000s, I've only owned 800s and 1000s, and have used 400s once at a house party, the platter did piss me of a bit for spin backs and other stuff but other than that they were built solid and gave great quality sound, and all the other stuff would be fun to mes saround with like connecting to traktor and stuff at home.

but I would go for a 800mk2 brand new rather than a 1000mk2 second hand.

if you have a budget of 2500 you should be able to find 2x1000s for about 2grand, and a second hand djm400 for about 400-500 and hd2s will cost between 200 - 250 if you want ones that will last.

I use hot cues a lot, but everybody I know who has a 1000s doesn't, and most djs don't own 1000s at home they usually have 800s so never use the hot cues on stage cause they haven't had time to prepare their sets with them, so they might not be any use to you.

then you have the 400s, which give you all these great features, but up until the 2000s get integrated everywhere, hal the cool features wont help you out usb stick etc as you can't use them out the field also no wav form display and the wav form display on the mk2 and mk1 is shit house anyway but better than nothing (helps if your playing a new track that you never have heard) other than you can feel breaks in the music you don't really need all that jazz.
hot cues are fun though.