Anyone opened a DJM-600?

[heavy d]

Has anyone out there opened up a DJM500 or 600? I have a hankering to reverse the LINE / PHONO switch and am wondering how hard/risky it would be.

Cheers,
D

[driload]

one thing first....

why?

[heavy d]

If you want to do rapid fire kills while mixing the line/phono switch is the go. Unfortunately the way Pioneer have set the switch up it suits the left handed. If you are right handed you are kinda forced to use your thumb rather than your index finger..... It may sound stupid but it's buggin me.

[statik]

umm ive repaired a few in my time...

cant remember how the switch in question is mounted tho, im guessing it's board mounted.....

easy just open the sucker up and youll soon know how easy it will be to flip the switch.... or get a place like phase in sydney or logitronics in melb to do it for u....

[dks49]

Dude how does the line/phono switch favour the left-handed? I've got a 300 and have used 500s and 600s plenty and i never noticed a problem.

[driload]

save yourself the hassle

just up the cutoff curve of the crossfader so it cuts at the barest of touches.... the 600 can get very sensitive curves so im not really following why you wouldnt just use that


doesnt really seem like something thats worth the hassle of pulling apart and resoldering connections on a mixer for, but thats just me

[polarbear]

surely there's a big sonic difference between switching using a line selector and a very fast crossfader. the switch is going to create DC thumps and clicks when you move it, creating an accent when you use it, whilst the crossfaders always going to be the 'nice' option, no matter how fast it acts.

that's apart from the musical performance reality that a you can build up a rhythm with greater ease if the action that you are doing has a rhythm to it (ie a physical click that resonantes in your finger joints), rather than trying to create a rhythm with a crossfader.....

(i'm not a dj, so the above is just conjecture)

[heavy d]

Pretty much spot on polar...

I don't think you can get 100% on -> 100% off on the crossfader curve driload but I'll check. If it doesn't create a clean and immediate 'gate' style chop then it just aint the same.

But hey, I could stop my whinging and practice a bit harder the way the switch is already set up..... (oh to be ambidextrous). DC doesn't seem to have much trouble.

[kaossproject]

heavy d,

follow what feels right !

if you feel that the modification is justified then do it, you may find something else out in the process.

:)

[Sean]

you wont get it with the xfader, but the channel faders are where its at. use the channel faders. you get the quick cutting without the click of the switch.

[heavy d]

Nah Sean, I use the channel sliders plenty but it's a different effect. The cut-out is not immediate like the channel switch or a kill.

[driload]

ok well go for it if its so important


but let me say, youde be better off practicing your turntablism (be it just fade techniques). the 600 does indeed have a very tight curbe and as for Polarbears 'mechanics and the mind' conjecture i would argue that anyone who has grasped the fundamentals of fade techniques can get an equally mechanical feel..... haha im not advising you learn how to Crab here :P

but like i said, its up to you. feel free to vooid your warranty and run the risk of buggering up your mixer ( :P this from someone who mods EVERYTHING)

it might actually be very easy, that is if you are familiar with a soldering iron and have a gentle touch

i tend to alter things on a whim and i think its a great exercise to bring you a little closer to understanding the truth behind the "smoke and mirrors" of great gear.

ps, lots of l33t n3rdz out there could do this for you very cheaply and a hell of a lot better then most of us

[mungo]

lots of l33t n3rdz out there could do this for you

We prefer "the technologicaly apt"

[driload]

speak for yourself

[SWARM]

switching is the go for total 100% on off exactness.... i use this style in a major way, have used this technique for as long as I can remember, fucked up so many switches doing it, they are not purpose built (i wish they were!!!)....

i have a 600 and dont have a prob switching, im right handed.... all in the way u shape your fingers to do it..

but every 1 is diff in how they like things done though so good luck with it..

[geewizz]

why dont you use the filter effect
?