Help me pik a Wine ??

[alieshak2002]

Just thought I would ask all of you if you know of any good wines..?

I tend to get a bit bewildered walking into a bottle-o >> with the amount of variety and price ranges, it makes picking a bottle a long and strenuous decission making process I would rather skip >> Being one to make a quick decission I usually just go for the ones I know... A couple of my Fav's are >>

Houghtons >> Cabernet Sauvignon
Evans&Tate >> Classic White
WolfBlass >> Cabernet Merlot

Surely there are more at a decent price range that would go nicely on a Sunday arvo Pik-a-nik...? I'm sure that the cultured ITM Crew have got a few bottles up their sleave... If you havn't already drunk 'em that is ;)

[thebar]

Any of the Mad Fish range is good
Tim Adam's Shiraz is not bad value
Amberly Chenin would be my pick for a picnic drink :)

[alieshak2002]

I have had Amberley Chenin Blanc Befor >> mmmmmmm It is nice !! It's pretty pricey though $16plus I think...

[thebar]

I didnt think that was too pricey :)

[brad]

What's your price range (white and red) Aliesha?

[leonm]

$16...you cant even get a good bottle of water for that.

[brad]

I'll start you off with a couple of good white wines under $20:-

Peel Estate Wooded Chenin (if you can find it)

Leeuwin Estate Prelude (I don't normally like "Classic Whites" and I think that Leeuwin is overrated generally, but this one's not bad)

Grosset Polish Hill Riesling (probably a touch over $20 though)

[calis]

if you're going for cheaper wines which have surprising quality:

richmond grove (limited release) cab sav (around $19). if you can find the '97 grab as many as you can. this wine is quite simply a freak. its oak maturation, fruit composition (with excellent berries and slight licorice) and finish is fantastic. personally i have a dozen of the 97's cellared.

capel vale sauvignon blanc (white label) (around $16). my fav cheap sav blanc. its got a nice measure of fruit, with excellent finish.

woody nook sav blanc (around $18). a quite good sav blanc similiar to the capel vale, but with a slightly dryer finish (great for ceasar salads).

if we're talking decent wines, then you can't go past :

lleuwin estate sav blanc (art series) 2000 (around $57). superb sav blanc that excels in its exquisite finish. the only problem with this wine is how fscking hard it is to find it in the same state which it was made.

orlando st hugo cab sav 1997 (around $43). great cab sav, with a nice oak finish with a slight choccy flavour. nice stuff for a special meal (since its not too expensive to get three bottles of it to see the meal out).

melba select 1994 (roughly $90). absolutely fantastic melba blend. deep tar and berry flavour that takes at least 45 mins of breathing (decanter is preferable) to come out.

my all time fav red - john riddoch cab sav 1996 (you don't want to know). all i can say is that its one of the worlds greatest vineyards, and this vintage was superb.

[Sean]

mate. you cant go past the great aussie chataeu bag.

[calis]

Originally posted by Sean
mate. you cant go past the great aussie chataeu bag.
aahah *hoists a plastic cup of plonk to salute that :p

[thebar]

braddles, got another '86 Peal Estate shiraz we can crack? :)

[alieshak2002]

Sounds like you guys know what your talking bout :)

I will try as many as possible and give you all the sniff&swirl&spit critique later >> I have a lot of plonk to drink !!

Think I might stick to the under $20 range though Calis...I'm not that rich !! :D

[brad]

OK, if we're not restricted by price:-

Mountadam Chardonnay (not that expensive, but bloody good)

Peel Estate Shiraz (thebar and I knocked off a 1986 bottle last Friday. I think it was too much for his girly tastes though...)

Pierro Chardonnay

Henschke Hill of Grace (Duh)

Rosabrook Shiraz

Saltram Metala Black Label Shiraz

Cullen Cabernet Merlot

Petaluma Riesling and Chardonny (duh x 2)

Charles Heidsieck Blanc de Millenaires

[deb112]

Goundry Cab Merlot

Banrock Station Semillion Chardonnay

Goundry Unwooded Chardonnay

Lindemans...pretty much anything

i also dont mind the Aurora range from PaLandri either

Deb
xx

[calis]

Originally posted by brad
Henschke Hill of Grace (Duh)

mmm, put three of them on my old work account last christmas and walked out the door with two of them. quite nice

however i'm drooling at the thought of what the 86 peel shiraz might have been like. :D


hey, are people interested in combining in buying a dozen bottles of decent (around 20-35 a bottle) wine each month?

i think it would be a good way of ensuring to collect some promising wine (well thought out choices from recent releases) and lay them down for five years.

[Griggle]

Sorry I am dead against the use of needles by non-medically trained people. Wine also contains many contaminants that could cause all sorts of problems.

If drinking wine isn't doing it for you, a couple of drops in an eye.

*My useless contribution to this thread is now done.

[brad]

useless, and puzzling. what on earth are you on about griggle?

[Liquid Tao]

Brad - Im impressed - you certainly know your wine.

I would have to recommend Leeuwin Estate however since I work for them I will recommend others -

Seppelt Chalambar Shiraz ($18)
Hardys Tintara Shiraz (98 is best)($35)
Starvedog Lane Shiraz
Wynns Black Label Cabernet (28)
Forest Hill Chardonnay (18)
Cloudy Bay S.Blanc (25)
Cullen Cab Merlot (80)
Petaluma Coonawarra (40)
Leasingham Classic Clare Shiraz or Cabernet (40)
Leasingham Bin 61 Shiraz (bargain 18)
Tamar Ridge Riesling (20)
Grosset Polish Hill (but dont drink for at least 10 years)(35)

For bargain drinking I reckon Houghton White Burgundy is a bargain - let it sit for a couple of years too and it gets quite cheeky.

[Griggle]

Sorry my post was in reference to a thread of Uzi0344's on the general forum, where she refered to needles as piks. As she is asking for help piking a wine here, I had to point out my concerns as wine has a lot of imputities in it so could lead to blood disease.

Ethanol would be a far more intelligent choice as it is far more pure but even then I think drinking alcohol is the far more intelligent option as the side effects of this are known.

If my posts break forum rules feel free to delete or modify them. :)

[bass]

Evans & Tate Barrique 61 Cabernet Merlot (~$20)

Two glasses of this and I'm a giggling mess.

[brad]

Originally posted by Liquid Tao
Brad - Im impressed - you certainly know your wine.


Thank you sir. I was wondering when you were going to drop into this thread and add your suggestions, nice work :)

Griggle - OK, that clears things up....I appreciate the suggestion, but I think I'll stick to wine thanks....

[Liquid Tao]

I can never resist wine talk....if anyone wants to know about my pride and joy - 26 case collection of fine wine - you just have to ask :)

[deb112]

MMMMmmm Cloudy Bay how could i forget

that wine is so yummy

Liquid Tao - next time i see u out ima pick ur brain about wine :)

Deb
xx

[thebar]

Originally posted by bass
Evans & Tate Barrique 61 Cabernet Merlot (~$20)

Two glasses of this and I'm a giggling mess.

We know, I've experienced it first hand :lol: :lol:

[calis]

Originally posted by deb112
MMMMmmm Cloudy Bay how could i forget

tis quite nice, and for the 23-25 it normally goes for ..good value mmmm

tho liquid tao ..the next time i see you, i might pick your brain on how to get my hands on a case or two of art series sav blanc :p

[Heathen]

Originally posted by brad
OK, if we're not restricted by price:-


Pierro Chardonnay



That wine is the tits, nicest chardonnay ive ever drunk

[gfusion]

As far as wine goes my favorite is the
Savingion Semmilon Blanc from Redgate in Margaret River.
Its about $18 but a very nice white.
Or the Goundrey Unwooded Shardonnay about the same price

The Mad Fish Premium Red is also very good.

Or the Xanadu "Succession" is a nice blend of Reds.

If your looking for something more local like the swan valley
then Riverbank Estate Wines are great.
www.riverbankestate.com.au

Go Wino Go

[brad]

Heathen - yeah, it is nice huh?

[Liquid Tao]

My personal opinion is dont waste your money on Art Series Sav Blance - go for Siblings Sem. Sav at almost half the price.

Robert Parker (world's most influential wine writer) cant be wrong - he gave the Siblings 91 points. Yummy lunch time fare. If you like your sem sav blends a bit more oaky I reckon the Cullen Sem Sav is hard to beat.

[narzf]

A nice rectangular box of Fruity Lexia never goes down badly. Tops if you mix it with a bit of fanta. Probably goes down best if you're on one knee and have a few people singing the national anthem around you.

And of course, there's the classic Coolabah. What can you say about this superb drop that hasn't already been said?

[alieshak2002]

Ok who's gone on one of the wine tours down south then and can recommend it ??

I'm planning to go... :?

Griggle

Sorry my post was in reference to a thread of Uzi0344's on the general forum, where she refered to needles as piks. As she is asking for help piking a wine here, I had to point out my concerns as wine has a lot of imputities in it so could lead to blood disease.

Make it known that i don't condone this at all and was in a very bad situation when it happened. Bad Boyfriend. Never again. No Apoligies needed.

[Heathen]

Brad damn straight it is, we had a few bottles a couple of yrs ago after we dropped in at the start of a harvest and helped out for a couple of hrs. (apparently it all has to be picked at the same time, with the same moisture, the same temperature etc.)

we left with a couple of bottles of the chardonnay which like i said before is wiked although a little expensive.

If your going down south and youve got a little cash, drop into driftwood for lunch, I think it has the best restaurant in terms of price, food and snottyness ie: you dont have to wear a suit to feel comfortable.

Have a look at sandalford they have some great wines, so do madfish/howard park, vasse felix is a little la de dah but their classic dry white is a great dinner wine, im not really that into it but if you just cruise around with a map that you can get from the tourist agency youll find some great vineyards.

I cant remember her name but go and see the scottish lady that runs the cellar door at moss brothers near yalls the Moses rock red is filth, one of my favourites.

hmmm.. end rant.

[GoOsH]

Plantagenet (sp?) - nice stuff
Devil's Lair
Notting hill - cheap cheap ($10) cab sav thats quite nice!

[snoochie]

Originally posted by alieshak2002
Ok who's gone on one of the wine tours down south then and can recommend it ??

Swan Valley Wagon Winery Trails

www.swanvalleywa.com

my ex bf's Mum and her partner run it. It's awesome up there. They run a whole heap of different trails.

:-D

[calis]

Originally posted by Liquid Tao
My personal opinion is dont waste your money on Art Series Sav Blance - go for Siblings Sem. Sav at almost half the price.

Robert Parker (world's most influential wine writer) cant be wrong - he gave the Siblings 91 points. Yummy lunch time fare. If you like your sem sav blends a bit more oaky I reckon the Cullen Sem Sav is hard to beat.

thanks for the advice.
i'll keep an eye peeled for bottles of both to try asap :)

[alieshak2002]

Seening as though every1 has quality input >> Who has a say on purfume ??

My choices lay @ Gucci...Envy
Hugo Boss...Deep Red
Gucci...Rush
Jean Paul Gaultier

A Little off the wine subject, but eh !? :)

[Classy Chick]

Perfume is an easy pick.

ANGEL!!!!!! ;D

[nvautier]

rose is the best,,,I dont know how to call it here,, it's pink in color and you drink it fresh,, a nice summer drink,,,\

for red,, i use to love 1999 rosemount cabernet sauvignon..

and for parties nothing beats sean 's favourite,,,, chateau bag.
;D good one sean

xxxxxxx nico

[LittleMissNawty]

im scared. simba is back in town later this year and this could see me back on tha bottle.

ya know, i just cant drink red wine no matter which one i try, or how hard i try. could it be that i was brought up of shonky home made italian red wine? i dont know..

anyway...im a sweet white fan.

paul conti muscat 2001, frontignac, voyager estate chenin

[sparky2uau]

What would you guys recommend for a slightly sweet red? Say $15 or under?

[Davezor]

Devils Lair. Yum.

[Sean]

at that price id defn be asking the guys at vintage cellars/liqourland. i'm partial to a dourif at that price but theyre dry and not available most liquor stores.

a simple one grape variety non vintage would be my bet. the moment you blend you ar e getting mediocrity.

[noryb]

What would you guys recommend for a slightly sweet red? Say $15 or under?
d'arenberg stump jump, its is a grenache shiraz mourderve (sp?)... just grab any wine with grenache in it as it sweetens it up a little

[noryb]

oakover classic white, passionfruit finish ftw

[Xstatic]

Classic white doesn't sound very red...

[boi85]

Scruby Rise!

[noryb]

Classic white doesn't sound very red...
haha was reffering to the thread topic :slap:
haha

[Sean]

welcome to 4 yrs ago.

[Dub_Plate_Killa]

if its not in a 4ltr cask u just aint gettin value

[Shanz]

Whats with the old thread revival?

Oh well. Try Taylors - Promised Land. The shiraz cab is divine. :drool:

[Trance_NRG]

I always go for a bottle of Penfolds Koonunga Cabernet Merlot, its a fantastic full bodied red wine and pretty cheap too only $15 bucks :thumb:

[noryb]

there are soo many good wines that are under $15, you dont have to pay 25 odd dollars for a good one

[Todd75]

Ingoldby cabernet sauvignon or shiraz
Yering station sangiovesse or any of there wines are nice: pinot or fortified shiraz
Jamiesons Run have good bends
goundry
mad fish
E&T classics white or red

[mazstar]

Liqourland is prob the worst place to buy wine. Theyl do big purchases through a small number of big wineries which cater for commercial large scale retail. You miss out on a lot of good of wine this way.

Quaffers is the biggest wine place i seen but im sure theres good ones.

My all time fav white atm is John Kosovich (i thin unwooded chardonnay)

for reds give san giovese a try its an italian variety that a lot aussies are getting into these days.

[Fr3d]

Customer wants slightly sweet red wine. What do you guys recommend?

[Todd75]

merlot? pinot? as mentioned before the sangiovesse is nice a smooth too

[Sean]

sparkling red.

if you want sweet and red then i wouldnt waste my $15. id just get passion pop and add red cordial. aka a fairybomb.

[Sean]

mazstar, surprisingly i must bein luck because i get a really good selection from my liquorland. then when i push past the $20/bottle barrier i just go to vintage cellars 200m down the road. <3 02 cote du rhone @ $30

[Todd75]

sparkling red.

if you want sweet and red then i wouldnt waste my $15. id just get passion pop and add red cordial. aka a fairybomb.

I'll have a bottle of that for sat night mate! :lol:

[ma3stro]

my favourite cheap wine is jacobs creek semillon chardonnay

it's only like 4 quid a bottle in the supermarket

[Sean]

id rather drink goon then jacobs creek :-*

[ma3stro]

im only talking specifically about the semillon

the rest can fk off

[mazstar]

mazstar, surprisingly i must bein luck because i get a really good selection from my liquorland. then when i push past the $20/bottle barrier i just go to vintage cellars 200m down the road. <3 02 cote du rhone @ $30

Yeah I guess it depends what area the Liquorland is located in.

Ive always thought Aussie winemakers have been making reds that are just way too heavy and rich. I remember the wines in Italy were just so much easier to drink and didnt give you that tiredness and headache u can sometimes get from heavy reds.

Anyone know some good wines either retail or direct that are easy to drink and light reds?

[mazstar]

Customer wants slightly sweet red wine. What do you guys recommend?

Merlot or perhaps have u tried white shiraz? It looks like Rose perhaps a bit redder.

[Sean]

thats why you avoid blends ;)

[noryb]

Anyone know some good wines either retail or direct that are easy to drink and light reds?
try sangria, wines like brown bro's dolcetto & syria, tarrango or their new one cienna, nova tickled pink.lambrusco's, any rose will be lighter styled.. most of these are lower in alc. vol around 8-11% (besides the rose's)

[pomwah]

eahhea old threads

[davind]

As someone who runs an "independent" (ie not owned by Coles or Woolies), don't trust those places. You got generally people there who only drink beer/bourbon and will sell you what's on special.

As for a sweet red, the most popular is Brown Brothers Dolcetto & Syrah, which is sweet and can be drunk chilled and is vpopular. About $13-15 depending on store. Otherwise there are some decent "rosé" - suggest Oakover Rosé (if you can find it) @$11 or Xanadu White Cabernet $11.
For non-rosé, not too many on the sweet side. Try Baldivis Est Merlot ($10-11) for a nice soft red, or go for Smith & Hooper Merlot ($15-18).
OR - Georges Du Boeuff Beaugelois ($13-16) is a decent light Frenchie:)

[Sean]

davin, which independent do u work at if u dont mind me asking?

[davind]

Rossmoyne Cellars .... if we don't have it we drank it.... or can get it maybe

[Sean]

cool, you got kingston estate durif? i havent been able to find it for a while. was a cheap (sub 30 a bottle when i bought a case or something like that) and awesome. having a hard time tracking it down. most people don't know what a durif is or try sell me some other crap instead.

[Jentai]

I <3 rose, my current fav is blossom hill white zifandel

I like the xanadu classic white (or whatever it's called) so am keen to try their white cabernet.

Not a fan of red tho, most are just too heavy for me and make my sinuses go nuts.

lol @ seans passion pop n' red cordial... mmmnn tasty!

[davind]

:thumb: ooohhhh, might have some???? Def got some Brown Bros Cellar Door Durif, which actually comes the goods even in summer. Got my first day off (non-Sunday which you are trying to kill:ninja: ) in two weeks tomorrow, so will check Friday for ya. If not, can score you a case no probs, will advise after recover from Fri..... try Xmas!!!! :P

[Sean]

but jen sparkling red is rose.

[Sean]

sweet. i havent drunk much of the brown bros durif just a quick taste. ill have to give it a shot. im in no rush, take your time

[davind]

I <3 rose, my current fav is blossom hill white zifandel

I like the xanadu classic white (or whatever it's called) so am keen to try their white cabernet.

Not a fan of red tho, most are just too heavy for me and make my sinuses go nuts.

lol @ seans passion pop n' red cordial... mmmnn tasty!
Yea Jen, Xanadu White Cab is.... think a decent red flavour but no tannin (ie dry taste) and chilled.

Good one just tried is Yering Rosé, made from Pinot grapes and has a hint of cherry, def great on a warm night..... but prob not where you are....
The Sinus probs are usually due to the preservatives/ chemicals - try a Preserv Free Red.

And PPop & red cordial..... he knows how to impress the 14yo ladies:P

[ma3stro]

possibly the worst wine thing I have ever heard of are Jess's 'Goontails'

the sad thing as utterly, utterly pikey a drink as it is, it tastes really good :lol:

[Jentai]

but jen sparkling red is rose.
yea my mum has tried to get me onto sparkling red but i just can't get into it...

Davind: I actually like dry whites but when it comes to rose i can handle slightly sweet ones. but yeah i think your right re: the preservatives messing with sinuses but i don't like the heaviness of reds either so will stick to my white/rose

adam- i will not have you knocking teh goon, it is an australian institution and should be respected as such. I have been known to have a tipple of goonta here and there and it has always gone down (and come back up) a treat.

[Sean]

haha i was reffering to retardaestro's insistence that my sparkiling red migraine maker was a rose.

[ma3stro]

look, I'm all for drinking fruity lexia out of the bag, that is fine by me

but putting goon and fanta together, that's just taking things too far hahah

[davind]

yea my mum has tried to get me onto sparkling red but i just can't get into it...

Sparky reds are tricky, have a bad one and it is goodnight red rover. For Aus ones, Peter Rumball Spark Shiraz is the pinacle, @$23 not too pricey and the taste is fantastic (but beware his Spary Merlot - wierd!!!). Under that, you kinda go to Hanwood Spark Shz or McGuigans Spk Shz @ $11 or soo. Or go to the classy end darling - Moët & Chandön Sparkling Rosé (the only thing they have worth going "darling" over) is fantastic.

[ma3stro]

it's probably because I wouldn't recognise a normal sparkling red wine as an acceptable drink as it is obviously offside

[Sean]

yeah that means a lot coming from the guy who stamps his approval on fanta and goon :thumb:

[ma3stro]

hahah wtf I just said it was the worst thing I'd ever heard

[Jentai]

haha i was reffering to retardaestro's insistence that my sparkiling red migraine maker was a rose.
fair call then. pfft they are two entirely different things. adam you are an idiot. :P

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH GOONTA!!

[ma3stro]

i said sparkling rose not a normal rose

but anyway

thanks Jen imma remember that

*goes and cries in a corner*

[Jentai]

^^ no, the inclusion of the :P is meant to prevent tears!!

aw sorwy...

hugs!

[ma3stro]

:lol:

[DTrancer]

Didn't you all just loved it when Hardy's brought out those 1L plonk instead of 750mL.. 33% free! Add to that Woolie's 20% discount for 6 or more bottles, I had my trolley stashed up mountain high with Hardy goodness.... :lol:

[Ibentmywookie]

Hayshed Hill - Cab Merlot or STFU

i could go for one right now..............

[Phat habitat]

Cassus Cab Sav, from Margies winery - unbelieavbley good at round $30-$35 a bottle
Also check the Howard park Cab Sav, $25 roundabouts

[sphipps]

Cant go past Leeuwin Art Series Chardonnay for a white, or Evans & Tate MR Shiraz for a Red...

Also try the Penfolds Bin 389 red for a cheaper option.....