See, i guess i would have more respect if krudd went and took the journey, went to source countries, transit countries and stayed for some time in a detention centre.

Its all well and good that our policy makers are middle class/white/australians who, for the most part will never have to deal directly with the kind of hardship faced by asylum seekers.

Its all becoming a bit children of men.

I used to think sarah hanson young was divicive (sp??) and manipulative - crying in parliament, but i understand where she is coming from now.