Originally Posted by jimmenyC View Post

Their mates should be holding them back. Ivy has a shithouse track record on both sides of the fence with incidents.
There are plenty decent parties elsewhere and make no mistake, the attraction of a BYO warehouse party will make a lot of these people who do not share the same clubbing-culture as us come along and crash-in with fun their own way*

A lot of people who remain unaffected by these laws due to hosting day parties and warehouse events did not show up to the meeting, pretty disappointing.

With the mandatory sentencing as it stands, a friend trying to hold back a mate out of control, could be the one to go down and land his mate with the sentence. The sentencing is fraught with issues and is not a detterent to someone already stupid and aggressive enough to be looking for a 'bro to come at them' and the issue is the persons who are being attacked and the propensity for aggression from mass-exodus on the streets due to lock-outs, and early-closures coordinated at the same hour in a concentrated area. Remeber the 2008 Lock-outs, and the abolishment of smoking in clubs? People and bouncers were fighting when they mistakenly stepped out of clubs to light-up....

*read: not really fun.

I got here in 2010 so im guessing that had died down a little by then...sounds like there is a potential for that to happen again tho..

Re your ivy point, yes i wholeheartedly agree on the ivy being full of wankers on a normal saturday night (doormen included) but have you been to any of the Chinese laundry/soapbox events there? Not a single clown in sight.

I didnt add burdekin/oxford arts to my last statement. Fuck now im pissed. Trance central and london elektricity at arts were amazing and now they are gonna have to shut down by 3am. Rubbish. The manager of arts didnt know what to expect at a full on dnb night and at the end of the night was quoted saying that was one of the easiest care free nights he has ever had to manage - everyone happy having fun. I digress...

"their mates should be holing them back" - absolutely - I am the first to wade in to my mates when they are being dicks. Sadly these roid heads have fucked everything up for the decent party goers of this great city.