Hey guys, thinking of getting a new mixer, and after reading the forums sounds like a numark dxm06 ain't bad to go for both price and quaility. I checked the forums last week and everyone seemed to say pretty good things about them (1 person complained of crossfader leakage tho). Just wondered what everyones thoughts on these mixers were and if there are any major problems with them. Also the best price i can find is $540 including postage from djbasement. Are they available anywhere else for less, or is that a good price. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanx
Dan

music prod and tech discussion will help you out

there is a list of all the good dj shops there

That guy with the crossfader leakage tried 3 different units and had the same problem each time, barring a monumental coincidence, there must have been something wrong with his setup.

Its a good mixer )(i'm just a newb) I'm not sure i really need the kills or FX though, perhaps the 03 would have been a better choice for me. saved a bit of money.

actually swink I'm led to beleive the audio quality on the 03 is not as good as the 06....

I have this mixer too, and it is a good buy price/quality wise. Good bang for the buck.

check www.storedj.com.au

might take a bit longer but save money with a bit of haggling, get it for a bit over 500

i got it recently and its been great so far. good features, good price, good build quality. not sure about long-term life but i will probably want to upgrade sooner or later anyway.

got mine for 500 flat from dmc in melbourne, although that was after i told them that CC's lightsound had them on special for that much. online stores with no shopfront like storedj/djbasement seem a bit dodgy to me. most record stores have equipment too so go in and have a chat to the staff. the guys at dmc were really helpfull anyway.

03 is shit. you have made a good choice swank... NEVER trust a numark contact fader.

the mixer is the best value for money mixer around.

i have enquired with store DJ about the lowest price they can offer (since they're supposed t be a VIP member and all....) and they didn't reply to me, plus they're expensive on heaps of other things as well. DJbasement have always given me great service and prices to boot. I'd go with them personally, even if someone else can match them. (which i haven't seen yet)

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Originally Posted by Bracko

03 is shit. you have made a good choice swank... NEVER trust a numark contact fader.

Good to hear, Bricko.

numark is an interesting brand... when i was starting out, they were a brand to stay away from. as such, I've never owned a numark product.

their new turntables are okay, as are their new mixers... so things seem to be looking up for them.

Entertainment Warehouse in Melbourne has them for sale $480 - (03)9315-1255

Thanks guys, think i'll go with djbasement

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Originally Posted by Bracko

numark is an interesting brand... when i was starting out, they were a brand to stay away from. as such, I've never owned a numark product.

their new turntables are okay, as are their new mixers... so things seem to be looking up for them.

When I started out (1991), Numark used to make great gear designed and made in the USA. then it went crap when manufacturing and design went to asia. Now they make pretty crap with lots of features. At least its cheaper now...

hence why i said okay.

for what you pay they're great.

I absolutely love my DXM06, onboard effects make my records last longer and make my mixing sessions way more fun and varied.

And yes, my x-fader is leaking after only about 4 or 5 months as well, but I'm hoping the replacement fader willl be better.

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Originally Posted by DJ Fusion

I absolutely love my DXM06, onboard effects make my records last longer and make my mixing sessions way more fun and varied.

And yes, my x-fader is leaking after only about 4 or 5 months as well, but I'm hoping the replacement fader willl be better.

Replacement faders are a thing of the past for me.

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Originally Posted by TurntableTech

Replacement faders are a thing of the past for me.

->your so cool

it's a digital fader... how can you make it leak after 5months....

p.s.... you're not your.

I bought mine about 4 months ago and loving it. Best mixer I could find for the price and I have no complaints. The sound quality is good, FX are fun and easy as to use, loving the faders as I have had no problems yet (here's hoping that I won't).

I used to swear that I would never buy Numark gear but this mixer is great! It's about time they picked their act up a bit.

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Originally Posted by Bracko

it's a digital fader... how can you make it leak after 5months....

p.s.... you're not your.

Its a conductive polymer fader actually.

not that i have the manual... but the marketing on it says digital....

conduction is still non-contact so whats your point.

Wire prongs scraping up and down a black plastic strip seems like contact to me. Point is that they do wear like a mofo (accelerated by the fact they are unlubed unlike some other contact faders).

it's a non contact fader, that I'm sure of.

whether it's optical or magnetic, i don't know.... but it's not a standard xfader.

well the manual says nothing interesting (gees i hate those stingy two-page manuals) but on the box it says '100% digital fader'....

no i think i know what it is now....

I'll have to check a few things... it's a one off design.

The crossfader is definently a contact type (by contact i mean two surfaces touching each other). It's the VCA which is *digital*. Hence the people at Numark market it as a *digital* fader (D-type). People interpret *digital* as meaning non-contact.

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Originally Posted by Bracko

it's a non contact fader, that I'm sure of.

whether it's optical or magnetic, i don't know.... but it's not a standard xfader.

Actually it is an everyday fader.

And don't use the word DIGITAL. Most over used and over-rated ambiguous technology term used in the world.

My light switches in my apartment are digital. Maybe HPM and CLIPSAL should wake up to the use of this buzz word.

Now this is a REAL "wear free" fader that actually uses induction...



Magnetic Fader Testing
The engineers at Rane employed a sewing machine to test the durability of the magnetic fader. Each stroke generated one count. We have it set to apply a million strokes to the fader every day. We tested 13 million strokes before we got tired of hearing the darn thing, and the fader shows absolutely no wear or degradation.

VIDEO
http://www.rane.com/ttm56video/colatest.wmv

What other fader on the market can be submersed in Coca-Cola™ and still be expected to operate fault free?

Every other type of new fangled digital this digital that optical what not fader is merely a gimmick!

Unfortunately.. to get RANE quality.. you pay RANE prices.

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Originally Posted by snyper510

Unfortunately.. to get RANE quality.. you pay RANE prices.

I won't tell you how much I paid for that exact mixer then

Seriously though, they've come down dramatically in price.

That TTM56 mixer pictured used to be $2899 when it came out. Jands were distributing it at the time.

The retail price is now $1599 which is really good value. I think the EMPATH is not that much more and it used to be $3199.

They're definately the best 2CH & 3CH DJ mixers you can get.

I'm a little offended though at the price of replacement (coloured) faceplates for the TTM56 however.

I got my TTM 56 for $1450 from DJ Warehouse. That was pretty much the best price I could find, with nobody else really even coming close to matching it.

I couldn't be happier with this mixer, it's just so fucking dope. The cut on the cross fader is so fucking clean and sharp, and the eqs are sweet as. I dunno, maybe I'm just a tightarse, but when I buy something I expect it to last.

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Originally Posted by cum sock

I couldn't be happier with this mixer, it's just so fucking dope. The cut on the cross fader is so fucking clean and sharp, and the eqs are sweet as. I dunno, maybe I'm just a tightarse, but when I buy something I expect it to last.

Exactly my point! I don't think its a matter of being a tightass (They buy Numark, Stanton, Gemini, AMDJ, Behringer), I think your more like a connoiseur

I've spent the last 10+ years being an electronics technician fixing other peoples crap and the last thing I want to be doing is repairing my own.

I've spent over 6years involved in nightclub and comercial audio system design and servicing and I know the benefits of using well made and good performing audio gear. This seem to be the philosophy RANE seem to use in every product they produce. I have a RANE EMPATH and TTM56 aswell as a few other RANE audio processor bits and pieces and couldnt possibly part with them or find a suitable replacement for them.

So if the faders wear fairly quickly can they be replaced with different faders that don't wear so much. If so how much will they set me back?
Thanx

Faders are generally product specific but some mixers can be hacked/modified to use another type of fader. Then you usually have to fabricate some way of mounting the fader in the mixer.

I have no idea about Numark mixer faders and I'm not about to anytime soon.

excuse my sleepy-eyed ignorance but how come I can't see any PFL controls on this mixer?

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Originally Posted by skywalkin_

excuse my sleepy-eyed ignorance but how come I can't see any PFL controls on this mixer?

MY GOD! Why has it got that cheap plastic "Fisher-Price - My First DJ Mixer" look about it

By PFL. I assume you mean channel gains? Those 2 x knobs just above the EQ's on each side.

noooo sorry, i meant cans (headphones) controls....

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Originally Posted by skywalkin_

noooo sorry, i meant cans (headphones) controls....

The small crossfader above the right EQ, The gain control for the headphone, and the "MODE" switch above it.

P.S. how does one know when the xfader is 'leaking' ???

I'm not sure on whether to get this mixer now. Does anyone know where in oz you can buy replacement faders and how much they cost. Also how often do faders on other mixers need to be replaced. If i did decide to upgrade to a different mixer, what would you suggest. (Keeping in mind i definately wanna keep it under a grand). Does anybody out there have a dxmo6 whose faders haven't leaked after 5 months?? - Or is that pretty much just standard.

no it's not standard, i think fusion has abused the mixer more than normal.... or he's done something to shorten the life of it. I really can't speak highly enough for these little mixers, if i was starting over again, there's little doubt i would buy this mixer. you won't find anything better for the price, and up to $200-$300 more actually...

not sure how much an ecler HAK series go for.. but they are great mixers also.

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P.S. how does one know when the xfader is 'leaking' ???

search the forums.

Thanks bracko

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Originally Posted by Bracko

there's little doubt i would buy this mixer.

p.s. wouldn't not would


:p

actually, the grammar I've used is not wrong for that reason sky... you might want to be sure net time. at worst it's not concise, at best it's correct.

wouldn't not is a double negative, so you're actually wrong.

back in your box kido.

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Originally Posted by Bracko

back in your box kido

:p

Its s good mixer if you're primarily going to MIX (ie beatmatch tunes). Good layout, bonus FX, does the job for a good price.

Ignore the plastic fantastic look, it works fine, and that's what counts.

However, its worth spending a bit more if you're a scratcher. My main gripe is with the fader, its a bit stickier than what you'd like. Still, there's an upgrade available, and after a year of solid scratching no leakage. Also, the killswitches can be easy to accidently hit when you're crabbing. Jury's still out IMHO if you're going to be cutting it up large... still, its half the price of a real quality scratch mixer, and definitely a lot more than half the performance. and if your'e going to be hammering the crossfader, doesn't matter what you get, you're going to need some maintenance down the line. (unless u spend like 2 grand of course).

I managed to blag it for <500 from a US store + cost of voltage converter. Look around. Only probs is that if it breaks, you're on your own (as I found out hehe).

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Originally Posted by Bracko

no it's not standard, i think fusion has abused the mixer more than normal.... or he's done something to shorten the life of it.

No, I'm a pretty experienced scratcher so I'm light on the fader, it isn't a normal leaky fader like I've seen plenty of times before, it's only sometimes if I have the fader curve set to minimum for scratching and I rest the fader all the way to one side, sometimes it'll leak the sound through in short crackles if I kind of tap it against the edge.

It's more like the effect of having some dust or something in-between the contacts of the fader and fader edges, maybe a good clean with some compressed air will sort it out.

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Originally Posted by Wintemute

Also, the killswitches can be easy to accidently hit when you're crabbing.

Haven't done that one yet, what's your style? Does your hand go top down onto the fader or curl around it a bit?

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Originally Posted by Wintemute

I managed to blag it for <500 from a US store + cost of voltage converter. Look around. Only probs is that if it breaks, you're on your own (as I found out hehe).

Ditto - I got it new for about AUS$380 landed from a US eBay seller and already had my own spare step-down transformer. If the mixer ever breaks I'll just buy another one of the same anyway.

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Originally Posted by Bracko

I really can't speak highly enough for these little mixers, if i was starting over again, there's little doubt i would buy this mixer.

I second this. I suspected that bringing onboard fx into the bedroom would make mixtime a bit more fun, but I didn't realise just how fun and how much it extends the life of your old records and just HOW easy is it to bail out of a mix by slowly sweeping the filter down from max to min - hey look at me, I'm Armand Van Helden!!

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It's more like the effect of having some dust or something in-between the contacts of the fader and fader edges, maybe a good clean with some compressed air will sort it out.

yes that would help.

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HOW easy is it to bail out of a mix by slowly sweeping the filter down from max to min - hey look at me, I'm Armand Van Helden!!

oooo... that's low.

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However, its worth spending a bit more if you're a scratcher.

it's not a scratch mixer.... if you want scratch, you buy stanton, vestax or better.

What do people think of the new Denon X100 & X300, they look tops, but a bit overpriced compared to the overseas prices. Like the X100 is US$250 and about AU$800 here.

Bump! Can you believe I still haven't replaced my dodgy fader yet? I've just been using the channel lvls instead seeing as how I've been mixing so infrequently but I'm getting rane serato shortly and so I wanted to fix my mixer up - I just searched google aus for "buy numark dxm-06 fader" and this thread was one of the first results I saw lol.

Anyway, found this...

http://www.dmcrecords.com.au/article.asp?type=3&id=435

so I should be sorted now.

Btw, I took the fader out and hit it with some compressed air and checked it all out, I can't see anything wrong with it but it still leaks Bracko, I guess I just copped a dud fader. Oh well, $65 to replace is nothing so it's all good.

Edit - not sure how I missed this the first time through:

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Originally Posted by Wintemute

My main gripe is with the fader, its a bit stickier than what you'd like. Still, there's an upgrade available...

Does anybody know what the upgrade is that winte is referring to?

it's just the contact... chances are there's probably rust on it.

you can unsolder the circuit pad, take out the actual fader and ring numark for the exact fader part to be sent... chances are they'll tell you to fuck off but it's worth a try.

it'll make it from $65 to around $5 to fix.

Hm, the last time I used a soldering iron I accidentally rested it on its own power cable between solders and it went up in a bright blue bang - that $65 isnt looking to bad at this stage mate but cheers anyway for the tip