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as soon as i saw that serato pack i sold my TS to a mate and have ordered that pack. can't wait to rock around in that clobber

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have that whole hip image

Works for you eh JJ? How bout you just back slowly away. Actually, go for quickly.

Remember your pleases and thankses next time and you might just find yourself less obsessed with the finer points of each product and instead just playing some music like god intended.
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Originally Posted by Pro Tool

Heya Joules - make sure that you've got the latest update from the NI website - it fixed some glitches that were happening on some systems when keylocking/moving the record slow. Particularly on newer macs. Also I question the no USB cable thing? You should have got one in the box.......

But yes - and any other TS users - check the updates and make sure you're up with them.


Yeah, I got one of the student promo packs, and have to send off for my activation number, so until then Im stuck with demo mode and v 1.0.030


Anywayz, im probably splittin hairs. It works pretty damn well, and im lovin it.
Im fairly sure id b sayin the same if I had serato too though.

Seriously, playin mp3s with vinyl is like, well, what an incredibly awesm fcking idea!! Up there with the modem imho (using a phone line to send electronic messages, woohoo! I still remember flickin the switch to data mode and loggin onto my first bbs on my dads 300baud brick from work) Who woulda thought it would work so well, or at all!!



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Does anyone have a setup which uses the Serato timecoded vinyl, but not the rest of the package?
Like xwax or djdecks etc?

Obviously you need a soundcard to handle you inputs/outputs and what not, but then you have a good sound card which works for more fucntions than just the in/out/thru of the Serato box.

Seems to be a much cheaper, and more functional, option than Serato...just not sure about reliability...anyone in the know of these types of setups?
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I trialled deckadance with torq TCVs and my BCD as a soundcard. Needless to say I will now be looking to purchase a proper commercial package, i found it VERY inconsistent and laggy...
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Cool - kinda what I was worried about too. Any other opinions greatly appreciated.
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For those who are students (or have a mate........) there is a Traktor Scratch Educational version too. Same product - EDU pricing.
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What "educational" purpose does traktor scratch serve?
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That's a pretty good question.... I dunno. But there are EDU prices for most software - all NI stuff included. I spose it just allows students to get the stuff at a reduced price. Same as MS Office. One's for work, the other for play. Admittedly they do regard creative passtimes a little differently in Germany where being a state-sponsored artist is a whole lot more realistic than here in Australistan.
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I have ms pinky and use it w/ my korg zero4 as my soundcard.
Works perfectly. Have no qualms about it.
Sound quality is ace. No lag. No artifacts.
Its a good package if you have it set up correctly.
It has crashed a few times and some mp3s dont work,
but you cant really complain for $160.

Whats the EDU price on Tracktor Scratch?
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Originally Posted by oliosky

I trialled deckadance with torq TCVs and my BCD as a soundcard. Needless to say I will now be looking to purchase a proper commercial package, i found it VERY inconsistent and laggy...

Id say that your BCD was the problem there.
You have to have a pretty good soundcard to get some decent output.
My m-audio fast track pro sucked w/ ms pinky.
Using my friends Firebox was awesome, and im now using my Korg Zero4.
Which is awesomeness as well.
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I don't think the vinyl control in deckadance is all that great either TBH. Maybe they have improved things after version 1.10...
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I've used Dj Decks, but it's no Serato Scratch when using timecoded vinyl.

I'd say if you want to use timecoded vinyl use either Serato scratch or NI Traktor Scratch
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well arent i a silly boy.

I must say that I was rather dissapointed when i found the Audio 8DJ/TS only seemed to support 2 CDs at once OR 2 TT, not 1 of each (which is what Im currently running).
But I soon forgot as I discovered I could get it working anywayz when on CD mode.......


Naturally, this means the signal isnt boosted, resulting in crappy playback when moving the record slowly, further resulting in me lookn like the impatient n00b that I am (or hopefully was).


Luckily I have 2 1200s spare!! One has no on/off swithch (gettin fixed now), and the other needs a stepdown xformer.
arrgghh, more patience.
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Traktor 3.3 update for TS users

http://www.native-instruments.com/in...etail&prid=927
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anyone hear about 1.8 in serato MIDI AND VIDEO! i cant wait!!
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Originally Posted by ekwipt

Traktor 3.3 update for TS users

http://www.native-instruments.com/in...etail&prid=927

The be all and end all of virtual vinyl systems . . . . if you've got a crazy fast laptop to use it comfortably at low latencies. (Mines getting old )
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Originally Posted by ChAbIb

anyone hear about 1.8 in serato MIDI AND VIDEO! i cant wait!!

No video AFAIK
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Serato Scratch just came out with a 1.8 beta

New Features:

MIDI Input
Scratch LIVE now supports MIDI input, so that you can control the software with a 3rd party MIDI device.

Great if you don't own the TTM57

Off-line player
You can now play tracks without hardware connected. Set up crates, cue points, make loops etc from the comfort of your lounge chair.

About time

Auto-looping
Create loops of preset length on the fly.

They've had this for a while as an easter egg hidden button combo,but finally released

New Relative mode options
New needle dropping in Relative mode and needle drop to cue points options.

Great improvements

AAC support
AAC files are now supported in Scratch LIVE.

Nice if you ahev a mac or download from the itunes

New TTM 57SL effects
HP Echo and HP Hold Echo (Bass cut versions of the existing effects), phaser, flanger and a bit crusher.

Relocate lost files
Move stuff around on your drive, without stuffing up your library.

YAY

Autobackup
Once a week your Scratch LIVE folder is automatically backed up.

Nice

Tabbed setup screen
A redesign of the setup screen with options under separate tabs.

Housecleaning

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what happened to the video. i went to a promotion thing for scratch live a few days ago and the inventer and manager was there and they said it was coming out with video and all the other little bits and pieces.
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I was/am still close to buying Serato, but after doing a quick mix in Traktor 3 on my laptop (with my touch pad ofcourse) I like it... but just a few quick questions

1. Would everyone agree its easier to beat match in SSL as you can see the tempo's and then you have the types of beats next to each other? (Yes I know there is an auto beat-match in Traktor but thats cheating!) Or would one have to just play with the pitch control to get the BPM's the same from viewing them on the laptop?

2. With the effects available in Traktor, they can only be used via laptop right? (unless you buy an external controller)?

3. Which is quicker to setup (as in software/drivers and everything are already setup, like plugging it in hot at a gig)

4. Where can I get Edu discount on Traktor, is it any store that sells it?


Cheers,

Jason

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Originally Posted by ChAbIb

what happened to the video. i went to a promotion thing for scratch live a few days ago and the inventer and manager was there and they said it was coming out with video and all the other little bits and pieces.

It's coming, I think they will do a quick beta test of 1.8 then release video and 1.8 together
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Hello Jason

The Traktor Edu discount is on ebay use the search engine and paste this words "Traktor Scratch"

Cheers,
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Originally Posted by Music_Pirate

I was/am still close to buying Serato, but after doing a quick mix in Traktor 3 on my laptop (with my touch pad ofcourse) I like it... but just a few quick questions

1. Would everyone agree its easier to beat match in SSL as you can see the tempo's and then you have the types of beats next to each other? (Yes I know there is an auto beat-match in Traktor but thats cheating!) Or would one have to just play with the pitch control to get the BPM's the same from viewing them on the laptop?

2. With the effects available in Traktor, they can only be used via laptop right? (unless you buy an external controller)?

3. Which is quicker to setup (as in software/drivers and everything are already setup, like plugging it in hot at a gig)

4. Where can I get Edu discount on Traktor, is it any store that sells it?


Cheers,

Jason

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Originally Posted by Music_Pirate

I was/am still close to buying Serato, but after doing a quick mix in Traktor 3 on my laptop (with my touch pad ofcourse) I like it... but just a few quick questions

1. Would everyone agree its easier to beat match in SSL as you can see the tempo's and then you have the types of beats next to each other? (Yes I know there is an auto beat-match in Traktor but thats cheating!) Or would one have to just play with the pitch control to get the BPM's the same from viewing them on the laptop?

2. With the effects available in Traktor, they can only be used via laptop right? (unless you buy an external controller)?

3. Which is quicker to setup (as in software/drivers and everything are already setup, like plugging it in hot at a gig)

4. Where can I get Edu discount on Traktor, is it any store that sells it?

1. "cheating" like looking at the waveforms/beats is not a form of cheating in itself? if matching two flashing lights flashing in time gives you satisfaction then that's great. In the current traktor scratch you can't auto beatmatch anyway, however you can adjust the phase but its not real smooth. I believe in T3.3 you can auto though.

2.Traktors in-built effects can be used via family pets

3.Probably the same? You just plug some cables in and it's ready. Not sure about Serato's vinyl calibration though? Traktor auto-calibrates

4.Discount would be from a mac store i suppose? google it.
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wat would be a good midi device to control serato scratch with. just want to use all the hot cues and looping and things
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MPD16 or trigger finger would be the cheapest





The novation Remote SL Zero would be nice and fit underneat or above most four channel dj mixers



Could be cool?

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cool yea they all look cool
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1. "cheating" like looking at the waveforms/beats is not a form of cheating in itself? if matching two flashing lights flashing in time gives you satisfaction then that's great. In the current traktor scratch you can't auto beatmatch anyway, however you can adjust the phase but its not real smooth. I believe in T3.3 you can auto though.

2.Traktors in-built effects can be used via family pets

3.Probably the same? You just plug some cables in and it's ready. Not sure about Serato's vinyl calibration though? Traktor auto-calibrates

4.Discount would be from a mac store i suppose? google it.


Thanks for the reply

In regards to the discount, I can't find it on the apple site :S Any one else with luck? If I buy it off ebay then I won't get warranty with the item i presume
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You can get an education discount through any NI dealer... Try a local store - you in Perth? Cosmik?
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Yeah I will ring Kosmic tomorrow, DJ Store said they won't honor the student discount :S
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cool yea they all look cool

Korg padKontrol looks cooler, it has pretty lights!

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Originally Posted by andreas

Ok I have ordered Traktor & a new mac lappy and now have the monumental task of
ripping all my vinyl to my computer.

Any one have any tips & tricks for this?

At the moment I have a xitel http://www.spankrecords.com.au/stock...l.asp?id=10559
at the moment which I will probably use for the task.

get some whizz
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anyone have traktor scratch routed through ableton and synch'd?

i do!!!
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