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honestly. its events like these that keep all the shitkickers in one place, be happy! no one is forcing you to go.. and as soon as i read the words dj comp + greenwood. its pretty obvious what type of music your going to hear.

to walk in there expecting anything but a absolute cheesefest is stupid.

@ Miss Amy, big ups for coming on here and speaking up. im interested to hear your mix.

obviously this competition is going to be a chance for one unknown dj to get a bigger name/rep.... its not going to increase there skills or track selection tenfold, and in 6 months no ones going to remember this competition, its just going to be a line on a forgotten myspace write-up....

people whinging about "not paying dues"etc etc also are forgetting that the quicker you rise, the quicker you fall. if you look at any (respectable) DJ in sydney, there has been no sudden rise to fame, but constant hard work, and self promotion.

obviously if the kid who wins it relies on this and this alone to promote themselves, then you wont hear about them in 6 months, if they are able to use this and build a solid rep from there skills, then more power to em.

i wouldn't personally enter as i cannot stand cheese anymore, and its obvious that its going to be cheesefest.


at the end of the day my point is:

A. it was always going to be a cheese fest.
B. no one is going to be the next big superstar based of this competition alone.
C. greenwood.. rllly. who actually expects anything but cheese?
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She didnt suck at all..She could mix well! And even more props to her for being brand new to it, just like myself.
If you dont like the music she played and base her "sucking" purely on that, then you are just as bad as the rest of those "newby scenesters" that you are all ragging on.

I definitely didn't like the music she played, but to be honest, I didn't think her mixing was all that special either and that's why I didn't think she really deserved to win. She mix competently and well enough not to have the average person go "WTF?" while she's on, but I didn't think she was that great technically, not really DJ comp winning skills. But then again I'm comparing it to the DJ comps I entered when I started out, where the winners were doing things like mixing on 3 decks, playing up to 10 tunes in 20 minutes on two decks seemlessly, or doing ridiculous turntablism routines. I guess this perhaps was a different type of competition to those.

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Im not saying anyone is right or wrong, but give credit where it is due to those who are trying their best to use any sort of platform to get their love of mixing and different styles out there. I am a 21 yr old female who initially was learning on vinyl and had never touched a CD-J before this competition so you cant group everyone together! I certainly wouldnt flash anything about to get a gig, I would rather let my music style speak for itself.

This is the thing, watching various people play on Sunday, it seemed fairly easy to tell who genuinely loves DJing and sharing music and who just loves the attention and the showboating and really knows fuck all about music. For the record, I would place you and your brother in the first category and I hope the two of you (as well as some of the other contestants: Suzy, Matt who played breaks and Oli the dubstep kid) get some sort of reward out of the competition. You guys in partiular have your heads screwed on and know that this is just another way to get some exposure and practice, not a shortcut to instant stardom.

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Suzy, Matt and Oli are all gems! Great people who have a big love for music!
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im just glad i played some fking techno! but was not impressed when the judge didn't know what techno was....WTF!!

Oli's dubstep went OFF!! seriously, that dude already has gigs lined up. and Matt who played Breaks had Tenzin bopping (shame he doesn't play that stuff at all)
as for myself, i think i entered the wrong competition hahaha
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did any one throw any cuts/scratches maybe a a few juggles in the set or was it all beatmatching?
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They used Reloop CDJs in this competition.

I was told that scratching wasn't as easy (or natural) on these, compared to the Pioneer models.

I don't believe turntables were options either.
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did any one throw any cuts/scratches maybe a a few juggles in the set or was it all beatmatching?


no need to juggle with DVS ... just set the length and punch it.


If you set your tracks up right (hit points, loops etc) it's a piece of piss to do remixes on the fly.


With technology making the manipulation of tracks now even easier than beat mixing, I'd be very surprised that if you were entering a "competition" you weren't seriously throwing in a few tweaks, cuts, loops & samples to be a cut above.






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I don't believe turntables were options either.



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DJ comp without turntables = /
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DJ comp without turntables = /

what passes as a dj setup these days shits me to tears, since when was it not standard to have some 12's setup?

im going to bring down the cdj empire one of these days.
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what passes as a dj setup these days shits me to tears, since when was it not standard to have some 12's setup?

im going to bring down the cdj empire one of these days.

Unfortunately, it's been that way for a while.

When they are installed in clubs, in the respect is not there.

Very sad indeed.
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They used Reloop CDJs in this competition.

I was told that scratching wasn't as easy (or natural) on these, compared to the Pioneer models.

I don't believe turntables were options either.

As well as no turntables On the first day there was lots of problems with Cd's skipping so they supplied CDJ2000's on the 2nd day.

I Wonder how Reloop took that.
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what passes as a dj setup these days shits me to tears, since when was it not standard to have some 12's setup?


12' what is that???

Edit: Trying to troll about vinyl being dead, but also note that 12' is 12 foot
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i think he meant 12's as in twelves...

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With technology making the manipulation of tracks now even easier than beat mixing, I'd be very surprised that if you were entering a "competition" you weren't seriously throwing in a few tweaks, cuts, loops & samples to be a cut above.


The judges being the hopeless ****s they are wouldn't notice, they would just think it was the song you were playing.. unless you were you doing a crazy re edit mashup of sexy bitch & some eminem track with some rhianna vocals looped in..
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Unfortunately, it's been that way for a while.

When they are installed in clubs, in the respect is not there.

Very sad indeed.

i think us people who reside in the breakbeat world are lucky, im yet to turn up to a dnb set let alone go to a breakbeat gig and not see some technics up there (quality is rarely assured but they are always there). the day i have to switch is going to be a very sad day indeed
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i think us people who reside in the breakbeat world are lucky, im yet to turn up to a dnb set let alone go to a breakbeat gig and not see some technics up there (quality is rarely assured but they are always there). the day i have to switch is going to be a very sad day indeed

I read that as, "us people who reside in the breakfast world".

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I'd have to agree with your point though. Turntables are almost bred into the blood of drum 'n' bass and breaks.

It must be something to do with the "urban" sounds or ideas, that the music promotes.
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Yes because often when I am in an urban enviroment, I see turntables randomly all over the place.


It's quite un-canny..
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did any one throw any cuts/scratches maybe a a few juggles in the set or was it all beatmatching?


the Lord Borthers used the scratch feature on the mixers and gave it a go but it didn't sound that fantastic.
Which is unfortunate coz they both know how to scratch very very well.
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Threads like these make me want to do a wee in public places!

Personally I wouldn't blame the chumps entering the comp, I mean they are doing their bit in trying to grab a bit of fame or trying to get out their, push their DJing or whatever.

But what is worse? Young kids trying to make it as a DJ or established dudes whoops I mean douches who are at the forefront of the scene but still remain whack?
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But what is worse? Young kids trying to make it as a DJ or established dudes whoops I mean douches who are at the forefront of the scene but still remain whack?


Worse? Young kids who are wack, trying to become the next Tenzin or something of similar douchey nature... It's a cycle of douche-dom really..

They are a bad as each other imo..
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I read that as, "us people who reside in the breakfast world".

Shows how focused I am at work today!


haha - we did a flyer for Freq Nasty years ago that got spell checked as Breakfast - he sure was a leader of the breakfast movement
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I'd say the reason there's often still turntables at D&B gigs is due to the dubplate culture.

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I'd say the reason there's often still turntables at D&B gigs is due to the dubplate culture.

Seems a bit daft and expensive to press an acetate of a tune that you have exported from your computer anyway nowadays right?

Why not just chuck on a control vinyl and play it direct
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Seems a bit daft and expensive to press an acetate of a tune that you have exported from your computer anyway nowadays right?

Why not just chuck on a control vinyl and play it direct

Dunno, it's always been like that with D&B. It's part of the culture really.

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Seems a bit daft and expensive to press an acetate of a tune that you have exported from your computer anyway nowadays right?

Why not just chuck on a control vinyl and play it direct


why play a grand piano when you can just plug in a midi keyboard and dial up a grand ...




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why play a grand piano when you can just plug in a midi keyboard and dial up a grand ...




why indeed

hehe - apples / apples

You are still doing the identical thing with a 1200 and a control vinyl albeit at probably a better quality and lower price
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hehe - apples / apples

You are still doing the identical thing with a 1200 and a control vinyl albeit at probably a better quality and lower price

you know not every song is available in digital format, right?
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Not every song is available on vinyl either, though.

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you know not every song is available in digital format, right?


Of course i know that lol - i was referring to the dubplate scene earlier in the thread. These are generally pressed (well cut actually) as one off's by producers at great cost - my comment was that it is more logical to play it directly out rather than go through the process. In reality this is what is pretty much happening anyway nowadays.

I'd be really interested to hear if anyone has actually seen a real acetate recently regardless of the scene!!
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^^ both hype and london elektricity both did 100% vinyl sets on their last tours, again both are dnb though.

imo there is no real reason so many of us breakbeat people still use vinyl, though i think there is still something special about a piece of wax that a digital file could never live up too.
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^^ both hype and london elektricity both did 100% vinyl sets on their last tours, again both are dnb though.

imo there is no real reason so many of us breakbeat people still use vinyl, though i think there is still something special about a piece of wax that a digital file could never live up too.

The thing is mp3/wav files are convenient. But apart from that you have nothing else to show for.

Without vinyl you have have history, a sleeve a story behind the tune. I'm not trying to hate on mp3 becauseI've also started to use serato but still use vinyl. I still prefer to use Vinyl though.

Maybe it's cos I'm a shit cvnt and haven't sorted my mp3s out don't have cue points set up on the files and still have way more vinyl than mp3.
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The idea of giving Novices a shot, when there are dozens if not hundred of better DJ's around the joint is pretty pathetic. I heard a mix from one of the finalists from the first your sh*t competition, and beatmatching was still a foreign concept to them. Maybe they can give a shot to people have earned a shot next time.

Though respect to the few who played tech.
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Personally, I would never enter one of these comps. It would be fucking embarrassing getting recognition from that and not from my productions / own initiative.
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