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Snowflakes 2012
Sup, 4m for sure.

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Skiing fulltime.
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^ I hate the skiing full time part.

I have a season pass for Hotham & Falls. It's looking more and more likely that I won't have time to use it.

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I will run/walk/crawl that in under 7 hours no later than 31DEC14.

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Hotham is only 30km, I'm planning to do that as one of my long training runs.

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Meh to snow in Au, I highly doubt I'll ever go in Australia again.
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Interesting.

I call bullshit.

Once it hits 2m you'll be here.
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^ why don't you just go half-way?

let's get some snow on dem mountains first.
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First snow is forecast within the next 48.

Will let you guys know if it happens.
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Meh to snow in Au, I highly doubt I'll ever go in Australia again.

+1

Japan.
Canada
Swiss Alps

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Japan.
Canada
Swiss Alps

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Indeed. Thinking of a Japan Canada combo this summer.

DNA, 2 meters? lol. Niseko averages 15m a season and gets up to 3.5m a month. I've never heard of an Australian resort having a 2m base and I can think of only one or two seasons where most of the runs were open at Buller. I'd pick consistently epic snow, over patchy, high chance of dirt any day.
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I've seen 2.88m in aus.

Now with cloud seeding and awesome snowmaking, 4m is the target for the next big one.

Also, japows snow density is incredibly low. 1m of fresh settles into 10cm. A metre of fresh in aus settles to about 50-60cm. Powder is shit at building the base.
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I've seen 2.88m in aus.

Now with cloud seeding and awesome snowmaking, 4m is the target for the next big one.

Also, japows snow density is incredibly low. 1m of fresh settles into 10cm. A metre of fresh in aus settles to about 50-60cm. Powder is shit at building the base.



tell us more about how aussie snow > japan snow
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Why would you even give a shit about building the base when you are skiing fresh tracks 1m from the piste every day? Fuck even on the groomers its halfway up your shin by the time the lifts open.

Id much rather ski fresh snow than some compacted base.

When and where was the 2.88m base?
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3m here in Whistler in March so far, 12m for the season.

LOL@2m
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tell us more about how aussie snow > japan snow

We have a more stable snowpack, we have less seismic activity and we have better terrain.

Our backcountry is by far a safer place.

Japow might have the snow, but their terrain is intermediate at best. Even horst would look good there. It's hero-wankerville.

As far as northern hemisphere is concerned japland is average.
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3m here in Whistler in March so far, 12m for the season.

LOL@2m

You're victorian then aye?

Nsw gets over 2m a lot from 4-5m of natural.
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I'll ask again, when and where was your 2.88m base?

You know the danger in back country isnt from seismic activity, its from layers of snow not bonding together. Australia would be more dangerous i it actually snowed here. We could have a catastrophic earthquake and we wouldnt get any avalanches, we simply dont get the snow.

Have you been to the snow abroad before?
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I win.

I still don't want to show you the data though, in case mexicans see it.

Promise not to fap.

http://thredbo.com.au/images/pdf/201...Snowdepths.pdf

Oh yeh, just did a decade of back to back winters.
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So it hasnt been 2.8m since 1992. I dont think thats a win. If you are happy skiing in aus then so be it, but there are far far better places out there

There is nothing to fap about in that pdf except the fact that japan/canada has so much better snow.

Where OS were you skiing?
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Taken from Niseko Hirafu's main website.



mmm fap fap fap
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dotDNA stop being a gimp.

On a side note, why is this in S&F?
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dotDNA stop being a gimp.

On a side note, why is this in S&F?

Snowsports?

I have actually had the best snow i've ever seen at Hotham, including Japan and Canada. But that lasted 3 days out of a whole season as opposed to weeks of good powder days. You cannot seriously suggest Australian backcountry is better either, it's like a fucking green run. Unless you enjoy giant gouges dug into your board. Plus snowgums are the worst trees to ski through.

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But this is more about my dad is bigger than your dad, not really skiing/riding...

Aus mountains, afaik, don't even compare in steepness/slope. Borrrinnng.
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Anyway definitely keen on whistler or japan mainland this summer, any hints for me GL?
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I haven't been to Japan before, been following their snowfall, but my mate who was just here with me went to niseko last season and said it was off the hook.

Can't say a bad thing about whistler, snow has been pretty awesome, were now getting a little crossover from winter/spring with big dumps being followed by bluebird days...

Plus in summer it's all about the downhill biking, wakeboarding,camping,fishing, road trips to Cali/Mexico, and the sun doesn't set till after 10pm.

Can't wait
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Yeah if i head to whistler it'll probably be feb march to catch the heavy snow. Whats the cheapest way to be over there for a month or so? Hostel or ...? Would be keen to start off with a week on the slopes, do a bit of sightseeing then finish up with another week or so.
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I stayed at the HI Hostel on and off for the first month or so. Its about 15 mins out of town by bus (which is considered out in the sticks for the locals) in the former Olympic Village, but I have to say that its easily the best hostel ive ever stayed in, and ive trecked all the way around Europe doing hostels.
If youre not going to be staying there the whole time (ie going down to Van or whatever to sightsee) then thats def your best bet. Its a hella social place, super modern facilities and due to the fact its not near town, theres always heaps of people (inc. hotties :thumb) around at night cooking, drinking, playing pool or watching the hockey live in the media room, did i mention drinking etc.

Overall def recommend it unless you win lotto and want to stay in one of the hotels that pretty much has the gondola entrance at your bedroom door.

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Nah i did the hotel thing in Japan this year, while its nice to be able to board out your door, you lose out on the social aspect once you've finished. How did you manage to get in and out of town to your hostel/up the mountain? Shuttle busses?

So close to impulse buying a new board last night!
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But this is more about my dad is bigger than your dad, not really skiing/riding...

Aus mountains, afaik, don't even compare in steepness/slope. Borrrinnng.



Coming from the guy who saw snow for the first time in his life about a month ago.

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http://theclimbingcyclist.com/climbs...ark/mt-hotham/

I will run/walk/crawl that in under 7 hours no later than 31DEC14.

Your move, Tobi.

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Hotham is only 30km, I'm planning to do that as one of my long training runs.

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Whistler bus service is, for the most part, pretty damn awesome. For most areas within 20mins of the main village, the buses run every 15mins up till 2am or 3am, so getting around isn't an issue. A monthly bus pass will set you back 65 bucks, but it pays for itself in 10 days or so (a one off bus fare is 2.50, and you don't get a ticket to use within 2 hours or so, even if youre only going 2 mins down the road)
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Coming from the guy who saw snow for the first time in his life about a month ago.

Oi

My snow knowledge/localism has been increasing exponentially since I've been here. I'm basically part of the furniture now Tobes.
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Oh, you're ready for this then, fo sure,


http://www.ozbc.net/nsw_crags.htm
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Yeh, aus bc is easy, aye?

All green runs?



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Nice, looks like it would be heaps of fun with a decent hit of snow. Must be damn steep though, the guy in that article reckons most of that area is unskiable.

I know there is plenty of technical terrain even just out of bounds at Oz resorts. I just hate the inconsistent snow, and even when it DOES snow, there isnt much to go round. Much rather go OS every 2nd year and come back complaining that it was too deep.
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I'd rather enjoy both.



There's nothing wrong with enjoying the conditions that we get here, although we may not get huge amounts of snow it's still fun to get out there and have some fun. Plus we get some lovely sunny bluebird days in Sept. I enjoy heading out in the the slack country here and I enjoy riding the resorts.

I also love heading OS to get my snow fix when it's summer here.

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Hotham is only 30km, I'm planning to do that as one of my long training runs.

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http://theclimbingcyclist.com/climbs...ark/mt-hotham/

I will run/walk/crawl that in under 7 hours no later than 31DEC14.

Your move, Tobi.

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Hotham is only 30km, I'm planning to do that as one of my long training runs.

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Not too bad $$ wise though if you live close. Us qld'ers still have a bit of a hike
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Many would argue that the Sentinel is better than Crags.




All of these pics were taken in very average seasons.

Australia has world class terrain. Unfortunately, you need to be a hardcore survivalist and expert skier/boarder to access it as no forms of motorisation are allowed. Helis are also not allowed to land or drop people in the park.

There seriously is more snow than switzerland out there. As I was saying before, being a continental snowpack means bonding is inherently better and rarely results in a rotten layer.

Earning your turns is free.

http://www.ozbc.net/nsw_sentinel.htm


Next time you visit a resort, try and make some time to get out of bounds. Snowshoeing is a good way to start and it's easy to find a local to take you on a fullmoon night walk if the timing is right.

Most resort have easily accessible slackcountry for people to get a taste for it.

There is something magical about it. The fresh tracks are just a highlight.
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Not too bad $$ wise though if you live close. Us qld'ers still have a bit of a hike

WA here, hence why OS is ALWAYS the first choice
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Looking to get a Super Pass, however word is that we cannot get one outside of a full-package deal. We had one agent advise that they would sell it to us for $400+ each outside of a package.

Does anyone know if it's possible to get these on the cheap outside of a package?
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Call the tourism office in Queenstown? They're pretty helpful in my experience, maybe you can buy when you get there.

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Your move, Tobi.

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Hotham is only 30km, I'm planning to do that as one of my long training runs.

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Access to three resorts, (I think) an option to use it for other activities (e.g. bungee jumping, white water rafting etc.).
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Access to three resorts, (I think) an option to use it for other activities (e.g. bungee jumping, white water rafting etc.).

Which resorts?

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http://theclimbingcyclist.com/climbs...ark/mt-hotham/

I will run/walk/crawl that in under 7 hours no later than 31DEC14.

Your move, Tobi.

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Hotham is only 30km, I'm planning to do that as one of my long training runs.

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