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The whole idea behind the Ultimate line was to re-imagine Marvel's classic IP in a modern setting. They thought that today's comic buying public (especially the young'uns) would be put off by origins of characters that were told in the 60s and 70s, and banked on there being interest in new stories based in the current world, with different and "fresh" takes on heroes and villains. They were right. Starting with Ultimate Spider-Man, then moving into X-Men, Avengers (Ultimates) and later Fantastic Four and others, the line has consistently been one of Marvel's best-selling offshoots, sometimes even eclipsing the original titles.

I loved them to begin with but then my general feeling of meh towards Marvel as a whole overtook any fun I got from them and I quit. Earned quite a bit by selling the runs I had on eBay which helped finance booze and noodles on my 5 month SE Asia jaunt in '03

The only time I've been back was to buy the Death of Spidey issue last year, and - yeah - I was pretty moved by it. Couldn't really help that, though, he's my fave hero after Bats.
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The thing to remember is that the Marvel movies are based on the Ultimates line.

Hmm, is Iron Man an exception, then? I remember that Ultimate Iron Man was different than the movies
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the whole neural/brain cells everywhere in the body thing, and pain sensitivity, for example
- and then I read somewhere that they based the movies more on the 80's Iron Man, so I guess that's it.


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I think the Iron Man movies are a mix tbh. Downey's Stark reminds me more of Ultimate Iron Man than 80s Iron Man. Not that i have heaps of experience with the character or anything, though.
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Jon Favreau stated he would only do Iron Man if it were grounded in reality. No Magic, No Fing Fang Fooms and No Manadrin with Ten Golden Rings (though he did use the rings as a basis for a Terrorist Cell)

The Marvel Cinematic Universe is based partially on the Ultimate Universe (The Avenger Initiative and all that) but still do borrow favourably form the Golden Age, it is a bit of everything, and slight changes for the General Audience too.

Ian is correct with 60s and 70's origins, but more so it would prevent new readers from wanting to engage in characters with a back story of almost half a century,

I have just read Superman/Batman and thoroughly enjoyed their little homage/nod to the ultimate universe, The Maxiums
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Ian is correct with 60s and 70's origins, but more so it would prevent new readers from wanting to engage in characters with a back story of almost half a century,

That's what I meant
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So, commencing in April, Marvel will print their covers on the type of paper used for the interior pages, and will still be at a price point of $3.99

Who the fuck do they think the're kidding? Honestly, without that slightly more durable paper, and you brand spanking new Digital Code inclusion initiative, how the hell do you expect anyone to be able to peel that off without tearing shit up?

Bring the price point down to $2.99 or, better yet, $2.50 and you still may have some buyers.

Other than that, I'll wait for the collected editions you fkn idiots.
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LOL Marvel.

Anyway, in the world of good comics, I just got the first two Mignolaverse variant covers for his "Year of Monsters" through from TFAW. So fucking rad!



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Nice. Love the second pic, it's scary in a good way.
Always found Mignola's drawing style unique & awesome, even if it took me some time to realise it's not the goggles that Hellboy is wearing on top of his head....
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I swear there are still people out there who think they're goggles.

Mignola owns. Always has done, but he came into his own when he started drawing exactly what he wanted to.
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Eisner Nominee's are in:

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EISNER AWARD NOMINEES 2012



Best Short Story
"A Brief History of the Art Form Known as Hortisculpture," by Adrian Tomine, in "Optic Nerve" #12 (Drawn & Quarterly)
"Harvest of Fear," by Jim Woodring, in The Simpsons' Treehouse of Horror #17 (Bongo)
"The Phototaker," by Guy Davis, in "Metal Hurlant" vol. 2 (Humanoids)
"The Seventh," by Darwyn Cooke, in "Richard Stark's Parker: The Martini Edition" (IDW)
"The Speaker," by Brandon Graham, in Dark Horse Presents #7 (Dark Horse)

Best Single Issue (or One-Shot)
"Daredevil" #7, by Mark Waid, Paolo Rivera, and Joe Rivera (Marvel)
"Ganges" #4, by Kevin Huizenga (Fantagraphics)
"Locke & Key: Guide to the Known Keys," by Joe Hill and Gabriel Rodriguez (IDW)
"Princeless" #3, by Jeremy Whitley and M. Goodwin (Action Lab)
"The Unwritten" #24: "Stairway to Heaven" by Mike Carey, Peter Gross, and Al Davison (Vertigo/DC)

Best Continuing Series
"Daredevil," by Mark Waid, Marcos Martin, Paolo Rivera, and Joe Rivera (Marvel)
"Naoki Urasawa's 20th Century Boys," by Naoki Urasawa (VIZ Media)
"Rachel Rising," by Terry Moore (Abstract Studio)
"Ultimate Comics Spider-Man," by Brian Michael Bendis and Sara Pichelli (Marvel)
"Usagi Yojimbo," by Stan Sakai (Dark Horse)

Best Limited Series
"Atomic Robo and the Ghost of Station X," by Brian Clevinger and Scott Wegener (Red 5)
"Criminal: The Last of the Innocent," by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips (Marvel Icon)
"Flashpoint: Batman - Knight of Vengeance," by Brian Azzarello and Eduardo Risso (Vertigo/DC)
"The New York Five," by Brian Wood and Ryan Kelly (Vertigo/DC)
"Who Is Jake Ellis?" by Nathan Edmondson & Tonci Zonjic (Image)

Best Publication for Early Readers (up to age 7)
"Beauty and the Squat Bears," by Émile Bravo (Yen Press)
"Benjamin Bear in Fuzzy Thinking," by Philippe Coudray (Candlewick/Toon Books)
"Dragon Puncher Island," by James Kochalka (Top Shelf)
"Nursery Rhyme Comics," edited by Chris Duffy (First Second)
"Patrick in a Teddy Bear's Picnic," by Geoffrey Hayes (Candlewick/Toon Books)

Best Publication for Kids (ages 8-12)
"The All-New Batman: The Brave and the Bold," by Sholly Fisch, Rick Burchett, and Dan Davis (DC)
"Amelia Rules: The Meaning of Life ... And Other Stuff," by Jimmy Gownley (Atheneum)
"The Ferret's a Foot," by Colleen AF Venable and Stephanie Yue (Graphic Universe/Lerner)
"Princeless," by Jeremy Whitley and M. Goodwin (Action Lab)
"Snarked," by Roger Langridge (kaboom!)
"Zita the Space Girl," by Ben Hatke (First Second)

Best Publication for Young Adults (Ages 12-17)
"Anya's Ghost," by Vera Brosgol (First Second)
"Around the World," by Matt Phelan (Candlewick)
"Level Up," by Gene Yang and Thien Pham (First Second)
"Life with Archie," by Paul Kupperberg, Fernando Ruiz, Pat & Tim Kennedy, Norm Breyfogle et al. (Archie)
"Mystic," by G. Willow Wilson and David Lopez (Marvel)

Best Anthology
"Dark Horse Presents," edited by Mike Richardson (Dark Horse)
"Nelson," edited by Rob Davis and Woodrow Phoenix (Blank Slate)
"Nursery Rhyme Comics," edited by Chris Duffy (First Second)
"The Someday Funnies," edited by Michel Choquette (Abrams ComicArts)
"Yiddishkeit: Jewish Vernacular and the New Land," edited by Harvey Pekar and Paul Buhle (Abrams ComicArts)

Best Humor Publication
"The Art of Doug Sneyd: A Collection of Playboy Cartoons" (Dark Horse Books)
"Chimichanga," by Eric Powell (Dark Horse)
"Coffee: It's What's for Dinner," by Dave Kellett (Small Fish)
"Kinky & Cosy," by Nix (NBM)
"Milk & Cheese: Dairy Products Gone Bad," by Evan Dorkin (Dark Horse Books)

Best Digital Comic
"Bahrain," by Josh Neufeld, www.cartoonmovement.com/comic/24
"Battlepug," by Mike Norton, www.battlepug.com
"Delilah Dirk and the Turkish Lieutenant," by Tony Cliff, www.delilahdirk.com
"Outfoxed," by Dylan Meconis, www.dylanmeconis.com/outfoxed
"Sarah and the Seed," by Ryan Andrews, www.ryan-a.com/comics/sarahandtheseed01.htm

Best Reality-Based Work
"Around the World," by Matt Phelan (Candlewick)
"Green River Killer: A True Detective Story," by Jeff Jensen and Jonathan Case (Dark Horse Books)
"Marzi: A Memoir," by Marzena Sowa and Sylvain Savoia (Vertigo/DC)
"Onward Towards Our Noble Deaths," by Shigeru Mizuki (Drawn & Quarterly)
"Vietnamerica," by GB Tran (Villard)

Best Graphic Album - New
"Bubbles & Gondola," by Renaud Dillies (NBM)
"Freeway," by Mark Kalesniko (Fantagraphics)
"Habibi," by Craig Thompson (Pantheon)
"Ivy," by Sarah Olekysk (Oni)
"Jim Henson's Tale of Sand," adapted by Ramón K. Pérez (Archaia)
"One Soul," by Ray Fawkes (Oni)

Best Graphic Album - Reprint
"Big Questions," by Anders Nilsen (Drawn & Quarterly)
"The Death Ray," by Dan Clowes (Drawn & Quarterly)
"Richard Stark's Parker: The Martini Edition," by Darwyn Cooke (IDW)
"WE3: The Deluxe Edition," by Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely (Vertigo/DC)
"Zahra's Paradise," by Amir and Khalil (First Second)

Best Archival Collection/Project - Strips
"Flash Gordon and Jungle Jim," by Alex Raymond and Don Moore, edited by Dean Mullaney (IDW/Library of American Comics)
"Forgotten Fantasy: Sunday Comics 1900-1915," edited by Peter Maresca (Sunday Press)
"Prince Valiant" vols. 3-4, by Hal Foster, edited by Kim Thompson (Fantagraphics)
"Tarpé Mills's Miss Fury Sensational Sundays, 1944-1949," edited by Trina Robbins (IDW/Library of American Comics)
"Walt Disney's Mickey Mouse" vols. 1-2, by Floyd Gottfredson, edited by David Gerstein and Gary Groth (Fantagraphics)

Best Archival Collection/Project - Comic Books
"Government Issue: Comics for the People: 1940s-2000s," edited by Richard L. Graham (Abrams ComicArts)
"The MAD Fold-In Collection," by Al Jaffee (Chronicle)
"PS Magazine: The Best of Preventive Maintenance Monthly," by Will Eisner (Abrams ComicArts)
"The Sugar and Spike Archives," vol. 1, by Sheldon Mayer (DC)
"Walt Simonson's The Mighty Thor Artist's Edition" (IDW)

Best U.S. Edition of International Material
"Bubbles & Gondola," by Renaud Dillies (NBM)
"Isle of 100,000 Graves," by Fabien Vehlmann and Jason (Fantagraphics)
"Like a Sniper Lining Up His Shot," by Jacques Tardi and Jean-Patrick Manchette (Fantagraphics)
"The Manara Library, vol. 1: Indian Summer and Other Stories," by Milo Manara with Hugo Pratt (Dark Horse Books)
"Night Animals: A Diptych About What Rushes Through the Bushes," by Brecht Evens (Top Shelf)

Best U.S. Edition of International Material - Asia
"A Bride's Story," by Kaoru Mori (Yen Press)
"Drops of God," by Tadashi Agi and Shu Okimoto (Vertical)
"Onward Towards Our Noble Deaths," by Shigeru Mizuki (Drawn & Quarterly)
"Saturn Apartments," vols. 3-4, by Hisae Iwaoka (VIZ Media)
"Stargazing Dog," by Takashi Murakami (NBM)
"Wandering Son," vol. 1, by Shimura Takako (Fantagraphics)

Best Writer
Cullen Bunn, "The Sixth Gun" (Oni)
Mike Carey, "The Unwritten" (Vertigo/DC)
Jeff Jensen, "Green River Killer: A True Detective Story" (Dark Horse Books)
Jeff Lemire, "Animal Man," "Flashpoint: Frankenstein and the Creatures of the Unknown," "Frankenstein: Agent of S.H.A.D.E." (DC); "Sweet Tooth" (Vertical/DC)
Mark Waid, "Irredeemable," "Incorruptible" (BOOM!); "Daredevil" (Marvel)

Best Writer/Artist
Rick Geary, "The Lives of Sacco and Vanzetti" (NBM)
Terry Moore, "Rachel Rising" (Abstract Studio)
Sarah Oleksyk, "Ivy" (Oni)
Craig Thompson, "Habibi" (Pantheon)
Jim Woodring, "Congress of the Animals" (Fantagraphics), "Harvest of Fear," in "The Simpsons' Treehouse of Horror" #17 (Bongo)

Best Penciller/Inker or Penciller/Inker Team
Michael Allred, "iZombie" (Vertigo/DC); "Madman All-New Giant-Size Super-Ginchy Special" (Image)
Ramón K. Pérez, "Jim Henson's Tale of Sand" (Archaia)
Chris Samnee, "Captain America and Bucky," "Ultimate Spider-Man" #155 (Marvel)
Marcos Martin, "Daredevil" (Marvel)
Paolo Rivera/Joe Rivera, "Daredevil" (Marvel)

Best Cover Artist
Michael Allred, "iZombie" (Vertigo/DC)
Francesco Francavilla, "Black Panther" (Marvel); "Lone Ranger," "Lone Ranger/Zorro," "Dark Shadows," "Warlord of Mars" (Dynamite); "Archie Meets Kiss" (Archie)
Victor Kalvachev, "Blue Estate" (Image)
Marcos Martin, "Daredevil," "Amazing Spider-Man" (Marvel)
Sean Phillips, "Criminal: The Last of the Innocent" (Marvel Icon)
Yuko Shimizu, "The Unwritten" (Vertigo/DC)

Best Coloring
Laura Allred, "iZombie" (Vertigo/DC); "Madman All-New Giant-Size Super-Ginchy Special" (Image)
Bill Crabtree, "The Sixth Gun" (Oni)
Ian Herring and Ramón K. Pérez, "Jim Henson's Tale of Sand" (Archaia)
Victor Kalvachev, "Blue Estate" (Image)
Cris Peter, "Casanova: Avaritia," "Casanova: Gula" (Marvel Icon)

Best Lettering
Deron Bennett, "Billy Fog," "Jim Henson's Dark Crystal," "Jim Henson's Tale of Sand," "Mr. Murder Is Dead" (Archaia); "Helldorado," "Puss N Boots," "Richie Rich" (APE Entertainment)
Jimmy Gownley, "Amelia Rules! The Meaning of Life ... And Other Stuff" (Atheneum)
Laura Lee Gulledge, "Page by Paige" (Amulet Books/Abrams)
Tom Orzechowski, "Manara Library," with L. Lois Buholis(Dark Horse); "Manga Man" (Houghton Mifflin); "Savage Dragon" (Image)
Stan Sakai, "Usagi Yojimbo" (Dark Horse)

Best Comics-Related Journalism
The AV Club Comics Panel, by Noel Murray, Oliver Sava et al., www.avclub.com/features/comics-panel/
The Beat, produced by Heidi MacDonald et al., www.comicsbeat.com
"The Comics Journal," edited by Gary Groth, and The Comics Journal website, www.tcj.com, edited by Timothy Hodler and Dan Nadel (Fantagraphics)
The Comics Reporter, produced by Tom Spurgeon, www.comicsreporter.com
TwoMorrows Publications: "Alter Ego" edited by Roy Thomas, "Back Issue" edited by Michael Eury, "Draw" edited by Mike Manley, and "Jack Kirby Collector" edited by John Morrow

Best Educational/Academic Work
"Alan Moore: Conversations," ed. by Eric Berlatsky (University Press of Mississippi)
"Cartooning: Philosophy & Practice," by Ivan Brunetti (Yale University Press)
"Critical Approaches to Comics: Theories and Methods," edited by Matthew J. Smith and Randy Duncan (Routledge)
"Hand of Fire: The Comics Art of Jack Kirby," by Charles Hatfield (University Press of Mississippi)
"Projections: Comics and the History of 21st Century Storytelling," by Jared Gardner (Stanford University Press)

Best Comics-Related Book
"Archie: A Celebration of America's Favorite Teenagers," edited by Craig Yoe (IDW/Yoe Books)
"Caniff: A Visual Biography," edited by Dean Mullaney (IDW/Library of American Comics)
"Drawing Power: A Compendium of Cartoon Advertising," edited by Rick Marschall and Warren Bernard (Fantagraphics/Marschall Books)
"Genius Isolated: The Life and Art of Alex Toth," designed by Dean Mullaney (IDW/Library of American Comics)
"MetaMaus," by Art Spiegelman (Pantheon)

Best Publication Design
"Genius Isolated: The Life and Art of Alex Toth," designed by Dean Mullaney (IDW/Library of American Comics)
"Jim Henson's Tale of Sand," designed by Eric Skillman (Archaia)?Kinky & Cosy, designed by Nix (NBM)
"The MAD Fold-In Collection," designed by Michael Morris (Chronicle)
"Richard Stark's Parker: The Martini Edition," designed by Darwyn Cooke (IDW)
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YO! Impact have acquired David Yardin for FCBD I'm gonna get some things signed for sure!





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Hey dudes,

Picked this up at lunch today:



As soon as I purchased, I wished for a rainy day to read it in - something about Gotham prevents from reading without it

Along with Superman/Batman: Absolute Power trade
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That looks sick! Will check it out.

Really keen to read Snyder's horror comic that everyone's raving about, too; Severed.

I grabbed a few things from Kings tonight; missed Saga #2, though. Only went on sale today

Got the fourth Year of Monsters variant cover:



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Need the 3rd, Baba Yaga, so will grab online.

Oh, almost forgot: The Boys is finishing soon Last storyline kicks off next month.
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Next I wanna grab Batman: Under The Red Hood - it keeps getting referenced in Supes/Bats or at least the premise of the return of Jason Todd, or not really.

And the world will really end this year Ian, it will! Look, I have proof:



SpiderMen: The 1st crossover between 616 and The Ultimate Universe

And it will all go downhill for Marvel from this.
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Halfway through the first book of Chu. Great reading and dark humor is always welcome.

Finished the latest Walking Dead too.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't die soon
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Chew is fucking sick. The plot twists and turns so much, love it

Onslaught, wtf does "616" refer to??
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As soon as I purchased, I wished for a rainy day to read it in - something about Gotham prevents from reading without it

Oh yeah, cloudy and dark, also twilight time of day and all that. As a friend of mine explained why she doesn't like Nolan's Batman movies:
"...There's daylight? It's Gotham City and there's bright daylight... That just doesn't work."

I don't fully share her opinion, but there's definitely something about that.

p.s. I also loved reading Gaiman's Sandman in wee small night hours; and its spin off Lucifer outdoors in summer days. When I'll be re-reading it, I'll do the same.
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Chew is fucking sick. The plot twists and turns so much, love it

Onslaught, wtf does "616" refer to??

Super Fun Happy Times Marvel! Just the main universe.
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Well duh, I got that

But what does "616" MEAN? What's the relevance of the numbers?
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Main Marvel Multi-Verse Number.

Something Alan Moore originally conceived as DC was all 'Earth 2' this, and 'Earth 4' that, then I believe it was the creators/writers of The Exiles that built on it - and something to do with The Captain Britain Corps'
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Over the weekend, I purchased Batman: Under The Red Hood and then next will be Hush
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Three issues into Gates of Gotham, really enjoying it, did not realise it took place after The Death of Batman, so it's Dick Grayson Bats, not Bruce, which upset me, but way I see it, if it were anyone besides that two, I wouldn't read it.

And at lunch picked up Superman: For Tomorrow by Brian Azzarello and Jim Lee



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Main Marvel Multi-Verse Number.

Something Alan Moore originally conceived as DC was all 'Earth 2' this, and 'Earth 4' that, then I believe it was the creators/writers of The Exiles that built on it - and something to do with The Captain Britain Corps'



Marvel Multiverse.

Nuff said.

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We’re real poor at the moment, a situation that I am to blame for and gf is home sick.

So I totally thought I’d be sneaky and use the last $19.99 on her credit card for that Superman For Tomorrow trade

I return from a meeting with a message awaiting me:

“do you have my credit card?”

What? NO!

“Yeah you fucking do, cause my statement states it was used at Impact!!!”

I have yet to respond... I’ll probably just wait till I get home. I need to get weed 1st, maybe I’ll just go home super stoned.. idk.
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Canberra.
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CanBrah motherfucker!

She was a sleep when I got home

It's a great comic though, I like fractured Superman!
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Hey, meet the mystery illegitimate BLACK son of 616 Nick Fury, who now happens to be out of the Infinity Formula that has kept him from ageing all these years.

Can you guess what is going to happen next?!

You are fkn losing it Marvel, worst decision to have Tom fkn Beetroot! as editor-in-chief.

I may actually bring to a close my Marvel standing order.... keep some x-titles, other than that......

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What a pile of steaming shit.
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Dude I know, right?!

This is a decision I simply cannot justify, YOU'RE FKN DONE, SON!

It’s like I subconsciously knew this was happening, having taken a stronger interest in Batman and Supes and all that recently.

be prepared for ‘The New 616’ cause after AvX, the Phoenix Force will burn and destroy what we knew, and from the ashes will rise... I don’t fucking care.

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The fuck is that bollocks?
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It's from Amazing Spiderman #411 by Tom DeFalco

After The Clone Saga when Ben Reilly was Spidey.
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Oh Christ. That's why I don't remember it.

I HAD THERAPY TO FORGET
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David Yardin 11am Saturday morning
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Just letting Canberra peeps know... Free comic book day at Impact in the city this Saturday (5/5/12). Gonna be goood
LOKI'D!!

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Just letting Canberra peeps know... Free comic book day at Impact in the city this Saturday (5/5/12). Gonna be goood

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The Shadow #1 is out!

Got me the sweet Jae Lee cover:

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The Shadow #1 is out!

Got me the sweet Jae Lee cover:

I'm gonna wait for the collected edition of this now, but do let us know your thoughts immediately dude!
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Just wrapped this up between Hush, gotta say, I will keeping an eye out for Dennis Hopeless, great writing style, and he actually made me like Jean! JEAN?! Though essentially he replaced her with Emma Stone!

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Does anyone know a good online site to buy Marvel collectibles that deliver to Australia, like models/collectible figurines. The link below is a Disney line of what I am talking about.

http://www.jimshore.com/store/catego...traditions/199
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Try this:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/s...?search=disney
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Thanks, I've got a jersey pre-ordered from bbts. it has been on pre-order for about half a year haha. Compeltely forgot they do statues
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Power Girl is hilarious, Young Justice animated

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Press release, teasers and everything. C'mon DC.

Marvel didn't find the need to to have media statements for Rictor, Shatterstar, Hulkling and Wiccan when they came out, nor did that Archie Comics character that recently got married.


http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=60166
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Does anyone know a good online site to buy Marvel collectibles that deliver to Australia, like models/collectible figurines. The link below is a Disney line of what I am talking about.

http://www.jimshore.com/store/catego...traditions/199

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I was just thinking you'd have great input into the 'deal breaker' thread.

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