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It baffles me the blind faith Pool fans have for this Scarecrow headed fuckwitt. You say most managers have done better than Kenny but you still rate him over Roy. And Bateman says he is better than Hodgson even though he made some of the worst transfer signings in the history of the club.

It'll take Kenny to punch a baby in the face and nail it to the 'this is Anfield' sign to get sacked. And even then the team will wear King Kenny teeshirts in the next warm-up

Why should i rate Roy more then Kenny? What signings did he make? Poulsen? Joe Cole?

We fucked up this year in the league and im not going to be a Arsenal fan and demand to sack the coach when we have a bad year. We need stability more then quick results, DC got punished for the shit buys also.

Remember all you blokes wanted to sack Wenger? Difference between a fan and a supporter.

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Arsenal fans that wanna Wenger to go are as stupid as Pool fans that want Kenny to stay.
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Remember all you blokes wanted to sack Wenger?

No
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im not going to be a Arsenal fan and demand to sack the coach when we have a bad year.

Duuuude, We've had seven bad years
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hahaha what about the CL qualification and all the developing of youngsters lololol

Moving on , it should be interesting to see how it goes. Im pumped for the Euro's , not sure who im going to go for. Want the Italians to do something it's been awhile.

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I hope they fail for at least the next 50 years. Don't deserve shit.

Bunch of ****s.
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I hope they fail for at least the next 50 years. Don't deserve shit.

Bunch of ****s.

The players? The people? Fabio Grosso lol?

My old man is from Italy moved over as a baby so i kinda have a soft spot for them but they are a bit ****ish.

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The players? The people? Fabio Grosso lol?

My old man is from Italy moved over as a baby so i kinda have a soft spot for them but they are a bit ****ish.

Nah Italians are great people. I just can't hack them on the football field.

Fair call though... I have a bit of German blood in me so I've always supported them at major tournaments.
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Nah I think hodgeson is good. Liverpool gave him fuck all set him up to fail. I like him and think he couldn't give two fucks about egos

Feel bad for the way the press are treating him just cause their mate 'arry didn't get it.

Why do you think Hodgson is a "good" manager.

He's good in the sense that he can keep a mid table team out of relegation(barely) but he doesn't have it in him to manage a big club or a team of ego's.

England won't make it out of the qualifiers. The FA have no clue.

A sign of his regime at Anfield the other night.

Fulham had Alex Kacaniklic playing for them.

We gave Fulham him, Lauri Dalle Valle and £4.5m in exchange for Paul Konchesky.

Paul Konchesky doesn't even play in the Premier League anymore.
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England will do better with an English coach.

He can't really do much worse anyway

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@Silva, Fergie has signed people like Bebe for the cost of Cisse. Doesnt make him a bad manager does it ( dont even get me started on KK's transfers). He also signed Christian Poulsen and Raul Meireles.

Hodgson wasn't even at your club for a full year ffs .
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Why do you think Hodgson is a "good" manager.

He's good in the sense that he can keep a mid table team out of relegation(barely) but he doesn't have it in him to manage a big club or a team of ego's.

England won't make it out of the qualifiers. The FA have no clue.

A sign of his regime at Anfield the other night.

Fulham had Alex Kacaniklic playing for them.

We gave Fulham him, Lauri Dalle Valle and £4.5m in exchange for Paul Konchesky.

Paul Konchesky doesn't even play in the Premier League anymore.

Thats sweet but why are you disregarding the rest of his career?

Pool have been just as fucked since he's moved on.
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@Silva, Fergie has signed people like Bebe for the cost of Cisse. Doesnt make him a bad manager does it ( dont even get me started on KK's transfers). He also signed Christian Poulsen and Raul Meireles.

Hodgson wasn't even at your club for a full year ffs .

I don't dislike Roy. The owners were bleeding the club dry and they needed a yes man who would not rock the boat. Hodgson was the easy choice.

We would have been relegated if he stayed on. Thank fuck the new owners got rid of him.

The football Hodgson had us playing was dire. Kenny has a different philosophy. Obviously not as adventurous as some of the other top teams but we are actually creating chances and playing decent football.

This year has been a bit of a write off but 2 cup finals in his first year back is not bad.
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hodgson is a great manager mate. have you seen all the trophies he won with football powerhouse Malmo FF?
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Thats sweet but why are you disregarding the rest of his career?

Pool have been just as fucked since he's moved on.

Hodgson's career? There is nothing notable in it.

Some league titles in some Sweden? Big fucking deal.

2 cup finals...yeah heaps fucked.
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Hodgson's career? There is nothing notable in it.

See weekender's post mate.
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Hodgson's career? There is nothing notable in it.

Some league titles in some Sweden? Big fucking deal.

2 cup finals...yeah heaps fucked.

Yeah taking Switzerland to the World Cup with only 1 loss during qualification and also to 3rd on the world rankings is completely irrelevant whilst looking for a coach for your international team

2 cup finals..... I didn't realise Pool were now aspiring to become the greatest domestic cup team in England.
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I don't dislike Roy. The owners were bleeding the club dry and they needed a yes man who would not rock the boat. Hodgson was the easy choice.

We would have been relegated if he stayed on. Thank fuck the new owners got rid of him.

The football Hodgson had us playing was dire. Kenny has a different philosophy. Obviously not as adventurous as some of the other top teams but we are actually creating chances and playing decent football.

This year has been a bit of a write off but 2 cup finals in his first year back is not bad.

How much money did Roy spend compare to Kenny though ( to gain what, 3 points and a cup run ( League cup is meh) ) ? Srs question btw, I dont know how much Roy spent.

Im not saying he was a great manager at liverpool, far from it, though I really dont think he was given enough time.
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See weekender's post mate.

I saw it. There is nothing notable in it.

There's a difference between guiding a top club to major honors and doing it with a "smaller"club. There's a reason why Roy never did anything at the top level.

Would you want Hodgson in charge of United?

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His reputation as a thinker on the game and a tactician is in stark contrast to the charlatan at White Hart Lane, who has won fcuk all in his career and bankrupted at least two clubs along the way, with his "throw enough shit at a wall, some will stick" transfer policy. Loveable old 'Arry is a media darling and a footballing pygmy.

Bankrupting clubs is hardly arry's fault though is it? He wasn't signing cheques just accepting the bungs.

At least 'arry's teams attempt to play football.

Ask any spurs fan if they would rather have 'arry or roy in charge.

Who do you support anyway? Would you want him in charge of your team?
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He's been appointed manager of England, not a club team. I'd wager Hodgson's achievements at international level, significant that they are, are more relevant in this context than what he did in a few months at a sinking ship on Merseyside.

He probably won't win anything, hell one of the best managers of all time in Capello couldn't get that lot to win anything. But he'll do a lot better than 'arry would, that's for sure.
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Yeah taking Switzerland to the World Cup with only 1 loss during qualification and also to 3rd on the world rankings is completely irrelevant whilst looking for a coach for your international team

2 cup finals..... I didn't realise Pool were now aspiring to become the greatest domestic cup team in England.

He can take a billion teams to a billion world cups and he would still be average.

Did Switzerland win the world cup?

The cups might not mean much to glory hunters like yourself but it shows progress.

It must be exciting supporting a club where you don't aspire to win every game and every trophy available.

John Terry will run the England team and when they fuck up it will be Roy's fault.
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2 cup finals...yeah heaps fucked.

Your club insisted that a champions league spot was the main focus

Kenny = Fail
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The cups might not mean much to glory hunters like yourself but it shows progress.

I think I chose the wrong club for glory

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Yeah international is far less stressful that club management in my opinion. Especially a club with fuckwitted fans like History.

His selection pool is limited
Teams tend to pick themselves
Only a handful of games a year
A tournament every 2 years.
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Your club insisted that a champions league spot was the main focus

Kenny = Fail

Wenger= Fail.

You guys wanted to win something. WENGER OUT !!!!!

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Funny, seems only bitter Pool fans knocking Roy
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we watched him every week. you'll soon find out he is an awful manager
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Did Switzerland win the world cup?

None of the teams Guus managed won the World Cup, is he a failure?
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None of the teams Guus managed won the World Cup, is he a failure?

Where did I say Hodgson is a failure?

All I'm saying is he's not "good". He's average at best.

The England team is similar to Liverpool. Ego's and expectations.

The team needs a coach who won't take shit from players and do a mass clear out of the older players. It's time for some fresh players and ideas.

I include Gerrard in the "older" players list.
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a) International fitba - Scotland, so yes, Roy would be tremendous in charge of the shower of shite that turn out in navy blue. Hey, call me naive but realistic.
b) If Rio decides to go, Terry won't get into the squad.
c) How come Hodgson is still respected by Inter fans... maybe the problem was at L4 and not actually Roy himself? And also, to belittle a man who won 7 titles in a domestic league is myopic to the point of absurdity.
And let's not kid ourselves, Engerlund's track record suggests they are a seocnd tier international power. So, ideal I'd have thunk?
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Funny, seems only bitter Pool fans knocking Roy

I think its Liverpool fans hating Roy vs. other teams fans who hate Liverpool.

By the way you defend him i would have thought they hired Mourinho or something.

had a laugh at this

Woy last had success internationally 20 years ago lol

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Where did I say Hodgson is a failure?

All I'm saying is he's not "good". He's average at best.

So you're saying Guus is not "good"? You can only be a "good" international manager if you've won a World Cup?
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9 April 2002-14 January 2004 - 23.53% winning rate

Can you show us the win rate of those countries previous managers? You know, just to make it relivent.
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Can you guys fuck off with the irrelevant bullshit already? Go start a shitty England and assorted managers thread.
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Agreed, lets talk about teams that could actually do something of note.

Is anyone going to watch the games live?
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Yea, I'll give it a good shot. I'll try and catch all the games in the Croatia group obviously and then whatever else there is. I think we're off at a work conference in the 2nd week so I'm sure I can round up a bunch of crazy people to watch games with me at odd hours. Those meetings will be super fun with so many sleep deprived and hungover people
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sorry I meant going to watch the games in Poland/Ukraine....

I reckon there will be crowd problems in Poland, their hooligans are proper fucked up
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They've made a massive effort over the last couple of years to curb the (somewhat overstated) hool problem in Poland. I don't think it will be an issue tbh.
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Nah, June is a bad month to head all the way over. I'm in Europe the next month for the Olympics.
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They've made a massive effort over the last couple of years to curb the (somewhat overstated) hool problem in Poland. I don't think it will be an issue tbh.

Poland will be good. Ukraine however... Plus the fact England are based there is a bit fucked.

Most Irish fans weren't going to go if we ended up based in Ukraine but....

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I thought the euro is in doubt now

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-0...oycott/3990394
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Looks like Carloth Puyol might miss the Euro, he's out for 6 weeks at least
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Villa is 50/50 as well. Spain in a little trouble.


Germany preliminary squad:

GK's

Manuel Neuer (Bayern Munich)
Marc-Andre ter Stegen (Borussia Moenchengladbach)
Tim Wiese (Hoffenheim)
Ron-Robert Zieler (Hanover 96)

Defenders

Jerome Boateng (Bayern Munich)
Holger Badstuber (Bayern Munich)
Benedikt Hoewedes (Schalke)
Philipp Lahm (Bayern Munich)
Mats Hummels (Borussia Dortmund)
Marcel Schmelzer (Borussia Dortmund)
Per Mertesacker (Arsenal)

Midfielders

Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern Munich)
Mesut Ozil (Real Madrid)
Sami Khedira (Real Madrid)
Thomas Mueller (Bayern Munich)
Lukas Podolski (Cologne)
Toni Kroos (Bayern Munich)
Mario Goetze (Borussia Dortmund)
Ilkay Gundogan (Borussia Dortmund)
Andre Schuerrle (Bayer Leverkusen)
Sven Bender (Borussia Dortmund)
Lars Bender (Bayer Leverkusen)
Julian Draxler (Schalke 04)
Marco Reus (Borussia Moenchengladbach)

Forwards

Mario Gomez (Bayern Munich)
Miroslav Klose (Lazio)
Cacau (Stuttgart)
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Spain are far from in trouble. Soldado and Llorente are in superb form.
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Interesting to see if they pair Ramos with an out-of-form Pique, or Javi Martinez at CB. Dunno if you'd want Ramos as the senior defender though...
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Ramos is a disaster waiting to happen.

I'd stick Albiol in there.
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