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I won a tourny after coming back from being down to a single ante!

I once won a tourney after I logged into Facebook and declined three friends.
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I made the sickest read the other night in pub poker. I wake up with AKs and some guy with around 6-7BBs shoves all in. I announce to the table that I think I have 2 overs so I will call.

I end up winning the pot and the rest of the table were so jelly of my amazing read
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PokerStars Game #71854643121: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2011/12/09 2:56:22 ET
Table 'Phegeus IV' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: L3Genden13 ($200 in chips)
Seat 2: haysebugen ($412.70 in chips)
Seat 3: canadarules1 ($70.75 in chips)
Seat 4: ><3bet4food> ($524.60 in chips)
Seat 5: El_Chach ($321.75 in chips)
Seat 6: MadAgenda ($200 in chips)
canadarules1: posts small blind $1
><3bet4food>: posts big blind $2
L3Genden13: posts the ante $0.40
haysebugen: posts the ante $0.40
canadarules1: posts the ante $0.40
><3bet4food>: posts the ante $0.40
El_Chach: posts the ante $0.40
MadAgenda: posts the ante $0.40
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to El_Chach [6s 6h]
El_Chach: calls $2
MadAgenda: raises $8 to $10
L3Genden13: calls $10
haysebugen: calls $10
canadarules1: folds
><3bet4food>: folds
El_Chach: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [2h 5s 6d]
El_Chach: bets $26
MadAgenda: folds
L3Genden13: calls $26
haysebugen: calls $26
*** TURN *** [2h 5s 6d] [4s]
El_Chach: bets $50
L3Genden13: folds
haysebugen: raises $326.30 to $376.30 and is all-in
El_Chach: calls $235.35 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($90.95) returned to haysebugen
*** RIVER *** [2h 5s 6d 4s] [As]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
El_Chach: shows [6s 6h] (three of a kind, Sixes)
haysebugen: shows [3s 3d] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
haysebugen collected $691.10 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $694.10 | Rake $3
Board [2h 5s 6d 4s As]
Seat 1: L3Genden13 folded on the Turn
Seat 2: haysebugen (button) showed [3s 3d] and won ($691.10) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 3: canadarules1 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: ><3bet4food> (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: El_Chach showed [6s 6h] and lost with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 6: MadAgenda folded on the Flop
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argh...rough Chach...was wondering if you were still playing
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Just came from a juicy home game with a nice whale.

$2/3 - Max BI: $300

4 hrs = 4 BI's profit

Wished I could've stayed longer because whale was just firing and reloading almost once per orbit. 7 of the 9 players were at least 200bb deep.
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1/2 only chach? thats low stakes for you innit?
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01/20/2012 NL Hold'em [90 Players] 26/90
01/20/2012 NL Hold'em [45 Players] 12/45
01/20/2012 NL Hold'em [45 Players] 34/45
01/20/2012 NL Hold'em [45 Players] 7/45
01/19/2012 NL Hold'em [90 Players] 25/90
01/19/2012 NL Hold'em [45 Players] 18/45
01/19/2012 NL Hold'em [45 Players] 5/45
01/19/2012 NL Hold'em [45 Players] 11/45

Still managed to finish in the money after the below!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, Tournament, 100/200 Blinds 25 Ante (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (UTG) (t5764 )
UTG+1 (t9181 )
MP1 (t3484 )
MP2 (t6015 )
MP3 (t16568 )
CO (t14164 )
Button (t1198 )
SB (t6736 )
BB (t4390 )

Hero's M: 10.98

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9, 9
Hero calls t200, 6 folds, SB calls t100, BB checks

Flop: (t825) 4, 2, 9 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets t600, Hero calls t600, 1 fold

Turn: (t2025) A (2 players)
BB bets t2000, Hero raises to t4939 (All-In), BB calls t1565 (All-In)

River: (t9155) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t9155

Results:
BB had A, 4 (full house, Aces over fours).
Hero had 9, 9 (full house, nines over Aces).
Outcome: BB collected 9155
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PokerStars Hand #74560340512: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6 USD) - 2012/01/27 8:35:13 ET
Table 'Lundia VII' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: 2PairWind ($600 in chips)
Seat 2: pobolero ($603 in chips)
Seat 3: alepa ($600 in chips)
Seat 4: El_Chach ($249 in chips)
Seat 5: q1q23q ($270 in chips)
pobolero: posts small blind $3
alepa: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to El_Chach [Qh Jc]
El_Chach: calls $6
q1q23q: raises $24 to $30
2PairWind: folds
pobolero: folds
alepa: folds
El_Chach: calls $24
*** FLOP *** [Qs Kd Td]
El_Chach: bets $66
q1q23q: raises $66 to $132
El_Chach: raises $87 to $219 and is all-in
q1q23q: calls $87
*** TURN *** [Qs Kd Td] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [Qs Kd Td 7c] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
El_Chach: shows [Qh Jc] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
q1q23q: mucks hand
El_Chach collected $505 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $507 | Rake $2
Board [Qs Kd Td 7c Ks]
Seat 1: 2PairWind (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: pobolero (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: alepa (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: El_Chach showed [Qh Jc] and won ($505) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 5: q1q23q mucked [Ts 9s]
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So i played free pub poker last night in the northern suburbs of Brisbane. Bogan central. One dude nearly got in a punch up cause a TD ruling went against him (everyone was telling him it was "free" poker mate) .

I got knocked out when I shipped 12 bb's odd with AQ suited from UTG with 6 to play. Guy next to act snap calls, I was thinking oh he has A rag maybe (cause he had shown that in a previous all in call situation) ... everyone else folds and he flips over the 4, 5 off calling off half his stack... the lols ensued when he hit his 4 on the flop and I brick out..

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Gotta love it, eh?

Ain't played live in a while...going to hit Crown's new monthly deepstack tho...last Sunday of each month, $200 buy in for 25K bank with $100 add on for 25K after 3 hours...only 20mins levels tho, so won't stay deep very long, but still pretty decent value for money really
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So i played free pub poker last night in the northern suburbs of Brisbane. Bogan central. One dude nearly got in a punch up cause a TD ruling went against him (everyone was telling him it was "free" poker mate) .

I got knocked out when I shipped 12 bb's odd with AQ suited from UTG with 6 to play. Guy next to act snap calls, I was thinking oh he has A rag maybe (cause he had shown that in a previous all in call situation) ... everyone else folds and he flips over the 4, 5 off calling off half his stack... the lols ensued when he hit his 4 on the flop and I brick out..

ahh the joys of pub poker...

AQo UTG? I could wait for a better spot..even with 12BB's. Pub poker opponents ranges are super wide (45o) so tighten up yours to match

In hindsight, if i played it I would min raise and check fold the dirty flop
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AQo UTG? I could wait for a better spot..even with 12BB's. Pub poker opponents ranges are super wide (45o) so tighten up yours to match

In hindsight, if i played it I would min raise and check fold the dirty flop



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umm nope..mid to late position yea for would raise but utg?? Knowing that there are 8 people to act after you who are willing to stack off with something like 45 off why ship it pre only to get called by off. You are only 60% chance to take it down assuming his range is any pair, any Broadway and any suited connectors.

Surely you can wait for a better spot. Min raise works well as you can still fold to a strong play
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^ Surely troll else you have NFI what you're talking about...12BBs at Pub Poker and you get AQ is insta-ship no fucking matter what position you're in...it's almost insta-ship in any game, pub poker or not...you WANT people (people like you I'm guessing?) calling you with 45os (lol)...doesn't matter if you lose, that's poker, the thing it to ensure you get it in good, suckouts happen, move on and know you made the right play, because trust us, buddy, Karl made the right play

Structure of those games is super turbo, can't just sit on 12BBs and min raise/fold a hand like that (this is perhaps the outright WORST of your possible options, btw)

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Surely you can wait for a better spot. Min raise works well as you can still fold to a strong play

Dude, it's pub poker, they play 10min blind levels before DOUBLING the blinds, your 12BB will become 6BB's in fuck all time and you think there's time to wait for a better spot than AQ?!?

Also, if you're at the stage of only having 12BBs, unless you donked off half your stack in the first level and the blinds are 50/100, there is no chance there is still a full table behind you, you'll be 4-6 handed max...AQ = insta ship...any argument you try to give against this is just plain wrong

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Ain't played live in a while...going to hit Crown's new monthly deepstack tho...last Sunday of each month, $200 buy in for 25K bank with $100 add on for 25K after 4 hours...only 20mins levels tho, so won't stay deep very long, but still pretty decent value for money really

Play this game yesterday, it's pretty decent, but A) I didn't know it was re-entry (not re-buy, have to actually leave your table, got to registration booth and get put back in a different spot) and B) I didn't know 1st place was cash + Aussie Millions main event seat.

These two factors change the dynamic of the game a lot, A) you have to survive the mindfield of cashed up idiots who play that "it's a re-entry" mentality and stack off with bollocks and B) the Main Event seat means a mega top heavy pay out. 1st was $10K + $10K seat, second was 9K...top 20 paying from 240 entries. I've played their Wednesday Wonder 20K stack game which only have 140 entries and they paid top 20.

Deep starting, but antes from level 4 + 20mins levels means it's turbo pretty fast, average stack after 3-4 hours is pretty much 10-12BBs for the rest of the time so you need your Run Good with you for all those 40/60's and flips you have to face.

All in all, for a $200 initial entry, getting 25K to play with it fucking solid really.

Didn't have the coin for multiple bullets, so just played my comfortable snug style not getting out of line too much and sticking to the good spots + good hands. Started good, up to 35K in first hour, but then lost a couple of medium pots getting away with minimum loses really...flop top pair, turn 2 pair which completed a flush, checked down, blank river and I check call to a flopped set. 3bet with QQ at 100/200 level from 500 to 1350 and guy calls from OOP. Flop K K X and we check it, he leads Turn and River and I'm sigh calling knowing he's got it, paying on River to see what he's playing (KTos, well played, twat features lol)

Made it to the 4 hour mark just on/around original starting stack, added on to be around 50K...couple of lucky hands, shipped 12BBs from mid-late spot with QhJh, dealer wakes to 10 10 and calls...flop comes Kh Ah Xx to give me the nut flush draw (no royal as dealer had the 10h) and 2 overs which kept it around about a coin flip, turn and river are repeating A and K to make winning hand 2 pair with Queen kicker, conterfiting for the win!

Next shove was after being quiet for about 2/3 orbits and blinded/ante'ed back down to the 12BB mark again, so from CO I figure a ship will get through a large percentage of hands due to my inactivity, but sadly SB has AQ and my suited Brunson isn't looking good, but flop comes 2 2 Q and I hold

Made it to 6 hour mark up to 180K with blinds then at 8K/16K + 2K ante...first hand back (which is my first hand even playing on this table as they broke our table 1min from break) UTG raises to 45K and I re-ship with AKs, he tanks for fucking ages considering the now turbo nature but folds it. Next hand I open to 40K with 55 from mid position and everyone folds, gets me up to 270K.

Next had I played I raise 40K with 88 from the CO, SB who I just feel is very good player, plus she has over 400K stack, ships it, BB ships it too, so I sigh and open fold it. Dealer then draws all three hands face up to the middle (SB with QQ, so good fold by me, BB was short and something crap like 89s, can't really remember)...dealer then asks me to push my stack forward, "I'm like, arrrr, no way man...I didn't say shit, I just open folded" and someone says that I did not verbalise anything, so he then shrugs and mucks my hand....BAM...8 right in the fucking window

Didn't find any good spots for raising after that, or good enough hands to call the shoves, and end up shipping around 8BBs right in the last minute of the 10K/20K blinds with AKs...BB wakes up with QQ...flop comes J T X to give me his Queens as additional outs, but it bricks...busto in 28th after 8 hours of play...well gutted, but thems the breaks eh?

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^ Surely troll else you have NFI what you're talking about...12BBs at Pub Poker and you get AQ is insta-ship no fucking matter what position you're in...it's almost insta-ship in any game, pub poker or not

lol...calm down champ. I'm not trolling but just raising alternative opinion strategy for a difficult spot. The thing is, anything above the micro stakes APL your play is absolutely right because the majority of a villains calling range is anything Ax which you dominate and your flipping with pairs....... and if he as AA/KK/QQ then that’s just back luck and you’ve run into the top of their range.

Now we’ve all seen APL players generally..assuming you have ranged the guy to be a total fish and he is calling with any pocket pair, any Broadway and any suited/off suit connector, hammer those numbers into stove and your equity is only 60% against his entire range. Personally (and I know it’s different) I can wait for a better spot. The key thing in this hand which got me thinking was the hero was UTG…anything MP2 later and I would just ship as you mentioned.

APL play is very unique to any other poker play around the world…because pre flop calling ranges are soooo wide you’re your edge comes in the form of skillfull post flop play using position and board texture as opposed to just plain math. Take teh variance out as much as you can and value bet to death your made hands

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^ Surely troll else you have NFI what you're talking about...12BBs at Pub Poker and you get AQ is insta-ship no fucking matter what position you're in...it's almost insta-ship in any game, pub poker or not...you WANT people (people like you I'm guessing?) calling you with 45os (lol)...doesn't matter if you lose, that's poker, the thing it to ensure you get it in good, suckouts happen, move on and know you made the right play, because trust us, buddy, Karl made the right play


I actually don’t want 4/5 to call…you want Ax to call so you can dominate and reduce your variance. I’m not being results orientated here but how can you be wanting a 60% edge for your tournament life?

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Structure of those games is super turbo, can't just sit on 12BBs and min raise/fold a hand like that (this is perhaps the outright WORST of your possible options, btw)

Dude, it's pub poker, they play 10min blind levels before DOUBLING the blinds, your 12BB will become 6BB's in fuck all time and you think there's time to wait for a better spot than AQ?!?

Most of the games I play are actually 15 min blinds…but then again it might be different for freerolls

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Dude, it's pub poker, they play 10min blind levels before DOUBLING the blinds, your 12BB will become 6BB's in fuck all time and you think there's time to wait for a better spot than AQ?!?

Also, if you're at the stage of only having 12BBs, unless you donked off half your stack in the first level and the blinds are 50/100, there is no chance there is still a full table behind you, you'll be 4-6 handed max...AQ = insta ship...any argument you try to give against this is just plain wrong

If I’m a table with break even players then yes I would insta ship coz I know the worst or their live calling range is KJ/K10 only and NOT r45/67/89/9.10 suit of off suit…that’s only two hands vs seven of the calling range of the donk villian

Bad luck at Crown deepstack..I played it too but made a pretty bad hero call vs some adelaide lag. He floated both my barrel's but hey, shit catches up now and then
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I've been crushing Crown cash lately, CRUSHING!

And since they've increased the BI to 100BB's my edge has increased AND no time charge on the weekends means the old nut peddling nits are even easier to steal from because you know they are even more determined to sit their for 48hrs and only play Aces, Kings and limp AK.

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Are we really comfortable in this spot? Is this what we want? Just asking....online I wouldnt do this play coz it's so easy just to reload another table...but when you go to a live tourney, you have so much invested in this one tourney...dodging variance as much as you can can be ideal


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Hand 1: 	38.083%  	36.59% 	01.50% 	     286288398 	 11717296.00   { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }


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Hand 0: 	60.703%  	60.44% 	00.26% 	       1034900 	     4514.00   { AcQc }
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Hand 0: 	63.571%  	63.25% 	00.32% 	       1083112 	     5424.50   { AcQc }
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Late reply, keep forgetting about this thead now that it doesn't get as much action as it used to

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...dodging variance as much as you can, can be ideal

Yeah, I get ya, but Pub Poker is freeroll, 12BBs (about to be 10 as from UTG), and what I'm guestimating to be 4-6 player table by that point, AQ is just way to good to pass up...raise folding is super ugly as even if min-raise, you're down to 10BBs, then the blinds are on you and you're down to 8.5BB...this is why I think it's ship time, if you get called by a 60/40, sweet as, you're ahead, you got it in good, if you lose, shit happens, that's beauty of the game...there's so many hands which are going to call which you're either 20% ahead of, or totally dominating...and then the flips

If you min raise and get flatted by the SB and BB, you've got a pot with 6BBs in it and only 10BBs behind...if you don't see an Ace or a Queen, then what do you do? Fold if they bet? C-Bet if it's folded to you, which commits you, so why not commit it all pre when you have a chance of just taking it down right then. If you fold it, you've missed your chance at a 50/50 or a 60/40 by not seeing the Turn and River

Shit, it's even pretty damn close to a shove on a full table in an actual cash buy in tournament...gone are the days of people waiting for 10BBs to shove, it's more like 15-18, even 20BB shoves these days...but as you start Pub Poker with only 2500 at 25/50...hardly anyone is that deep by the time you're a few levels in...heck, even one level in without having chipped up and having had the blinds go through you twice you're down to 20BBs

Dodging variance is great, but not at the cost of blinding down to the point you have no fold equity against a raise...at some stage, you gotta get it in...you don't win tournaments without winning crucial flips/60-40's

Nutshell...firmly believe in this format, shipping is by far and away the best move.



The Crown tourny is an alright one, eh? But still very damn tricky due to re-entry and short levels meaning no one is deep for all that long...deft gonna give it another crack sometime though, sweet value for money tournament really...only better one they do is Shane Warne's occassional Deepstack series as you get longer levels. Joe Haschem Deep Stack series is a bit of a joke really, 15K start banks in some, but starting blinds are 50/100 instead of 25/50 and antes come in at level 3, pretty brutal really...again, not a true deepstack tournie.

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I've been crushing Crown cash lately, CRUSHING!

And since they've increased the BI to 100BB's my edge has increased AND no time charge on the weekends means the old nut peddling nits are even easier to steal from because you know they are even more determined to sit their for 48hrs and only play Aces, Kings and limp AK.

Steal, steal, steal is my motto.

Ooooohhhhh, nice! When did they up the buy in's? And no time charge on the weekends now?!?! That's super fucking awesome! Do they increase the rake or something?
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Ooooohhhhh, nice! When did they up the buy in's? And no time charge on the weekends now?!?! That's super fucking awesome! Do they increase the rake or something?

Yeah rake went up to max $12 or 10% during the 'peak-hours', which is 12pm Friday to 6am Monday.

So it's good to grind the weekends when your not getting slugged $5 / hour.
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Late reply, keep forgetting about this thead now that it doesn't get as much action as it used to
If you min raise and get flatted by the SB and BB, you've got a pot with 6BBs in it and only 10BBs behind...if you don't see an Ace or a Queen, then what do you do? Fold if they bet? C-Bet if it's folded to you, which commits you, so why not commit it all pre when you have a chance of just taking it down right then. If you fold it, you've missed your chance at a 50/50 or a 60/40 by not seeing the Turn and River

In the 5% scenario where I might contemplate using the play from UTG is where the prize a ticket to ME or something, I would use my post flop reads to gauge my move...could be check ship or ship a donk bet if I think he's taking a stab.

Definitely not saying this is a standard play...but a possible one i could consider given the early position and me leaning towards post flop edge. Like any form of poker at micro/mini stakes...see flops for cheap, make your hand and value bet to death

Who's playing ANZPT Event 1 or ME? Might get a last longer bet going on if anyone is keen

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Who's playing ANZPT Event 1 or ME? Might get a last longer bet going on if anyone is keen

Don't think so, didn't even know it was happening soon...will check the schedule and see if there's anything I've got the funds to pony up for
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Melbourne Poker Champs at start of May, satellites to Main Event already running

Opening event is a Joe Haschem Deep Stack Repechage for $550, there's a Sunday Mega Stack for only $200...main event is $1100 and awesome value if you can satellite into it as I think it's 20K stacks and 40min levels.
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Tourneys are for mugs.

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Each game takes different strenghts, my game suits tournaments a lot more...and it's a risk VS reward thing for me...take $200 to a cash table and you have to risk said $200 to win $200 (just thinking that a hand ends up heads up, but yeah, there can be times you risk the $200 for $600 etc but multiway all in pots aren't exactly common) but a tournament, you're putting up $200 with a potential reward of $20K in the case of the Sunday $200 Deepstack...said $200 can last you 8-10 hours of play, which is pure an entertainment expensve to me

While $200 at a cash table can be gone 5 times over in the space of an hour if you have a really shitty run.

It's deft the may to solidly make more money, but I like the chase of a tournament and prefer the game dynamics more than cash.
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I like cash live, at Crown, but drives me bonkers online...I just lose lose lose

That monthly deepstack is on again this Sunday, 12:10pm
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Yeah I'll probably give it a go, it's good value.
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Just registered for ANZPT Flight 3, Friday!! Cant wait...just wanna make sunday
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That's not till end of August, innit?
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That's not till end of August, innit?

I meant Sydney ANZPT

Just came off a pretty sik weekend there. Got 19th in the ANZPT Event 1...got knocked out late Saturday night when i had a brain fart and decided to 5 bet my pocket 9's against Aarron Benton's Kings pre-flop. Fml

Also bubbled the ANZPT ME Mega sattelite on Sunday for the leftover 1100 cash kitty....managed to stay in long enough on final table with 3.2 big blinds to see two people knock them selves out...I had 1.2 big blinds when this happened...lol
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Could of gone worse, eh? What'd you get for 19th spot in the opening event?
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Nice, but still so gutting to get that far abd blow up, eh? What was first worth?
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Nice, but still so gutting to get that far abd blow up, eh? What was first worth?

50Kish fopr 1st...yea wasnt happy about the blow up. Had a 500K stack at 6K/12k and somehow managed to go all in preflop with 9's vs a 1 mil stack!?!?....was directly after a 40 minute dinner break so lost my focus pretty badly. Sucks. But did get to sit at a very tough table all day so learnt a bunch from more experienced guys and also learnt a new move i hadn't used yet...PFR raise with Ace King, dont hit and check raise the flop vs villain donk bet in position. Worked a treat
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Gutted...but how do you check raise a donk bet when you have position? Isn't a 'donk' bet is the SB/BB leading out into the raiser on the flop, you can't have checked and have position? Oh, you mean HE had position on you, you checked, he bet, your raised? OK...nice play when totally whiffing Flop...ugly spot if they call you though, easy fold if they re-pop

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I was out of position, he had button and bet when I checked flop. Only works on semi decent players, definitely won't work in APL coz they will just call anythIng anyway and rarely bet with air in that spot. Reality was I was probably ahead with ace high but didn't want to be pushed around, it was the first hand I was involved in at this pro'ish table so it set up a bunch of respect/fear for the next 2 hours.

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Nice one, yeah, get what you're saying on the quality of opponent you need...no fish is betting there with nothing, and even if it's only second pair, they'll probably call you, and will surely call you on any draw
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lol...doh!

Through to day 2 of Shane Warne Deepstack, carrying 105K from 25K starting stack...could have been 170K as in the last level, a small stack shoved 15K with 77, I wake up with AKs from MP and iso to 40K, SB has JJ but only 25K and in that goes, so essentially I'm flipping still and even flop 2 to the flush but brick out....bit gutting, but still a good size stack when we start back today at 1500/3000 + 300

Had a pretty good run with opening cards, 1010, JJ x 3 and KK x 2...first KK hand was after I'd already had the tens and JJ once and worked up to 35K...EP opened to 550 at 100/200 + 25, I 3 bet to 1350 from the BB and he called flop comes 9 9 2 and I lead 1/2 pot, he raises putting in about 1/3 of his stack, I raise enough to commit him and he sigh-commits with 10 10.

2 new players came to the table and one of them promptly raises first hand, I get JJ from the BB and just flat it along side 2 others, raggy low 3 colour flop and I check call his 1/3 pot bet, others fold, Q on the turn which is a little scary as I'd put him on AQ/AK style hand, I check call his 1/2 pot bet and we get a freaking King on the river...yuck...I blocker bet around 1/4 of the pot and he very quickly re-raises to nearly pot...I sigh and berate myself for not sacking up and re-raising him earlier and fold after asking if he'll show if I show Jacks, he said yeah and with the action and what I'd mentally put him on I felt the fold was right...fucker sow 10 5os! D'OH but well played sir!

JJ again was right after the break and I 3bet, raiser shipped in and we raced with his AKs and he bricked

Everything else was standard position/hand strength raises and getting respect folds there or folds to CBs. Best plays were limping A5s from LP with intention to call raise as I had the stack size for it and see what the flop brings, button 3x raised and the BB called...flop comes 5 8 10 rainbow, BB and I check, OR bets 1/3 pot, BB calls and they both fold to my raise, one of the showing an 8, so I show my 5 only and one of them goes "yes, your set was good, may as well have showed both" and they were both convinced so I let them believe it.

I raise 99 from LP and the BB calls, flop comes Ks Qs 4s and we both check...Turn is a rag heart and he leads over half pot, I re-pop him 3.5x his raise and he tanks for ages and folds...going to the break he asked what I had claiming to have folded to pair, he was pretty gutted when I told him nines

KK at new table in the second to last level, I limped from UTG + 1 and re-pop when MP raised, he just about min 4 bets me so I min 5 bet him and he gave a sarcastic "nice hand" and folds.

The against same guy I raised his blind with K6s from LP, he flats and on A 6 2 flop he leads 1/2 pot and I snap, blank Turn and he leads 1/3 pot and I snap, he checks River and I check behind and he looks disgusted and mucks

AK 77 JJ hand happens after that and then it's end of the day...all in all, very happy with my play, and obviously my cards, and just stoked to be through to day 2 with 30+ blinds! Average stack is only 65K
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Busted 12th for $700...so happy, but it's still so gutting as so close to FT primo money...all came down to a crucial flip, calling someone who was a little under me with 88 to their A9 and they bink on the flop...busted moving like 3 BBs with ATs into JJ...gutted

First 2 hours was brutal, called raise 3 way with AJ and BB lead Q high flop, fold
Raised AQs and got check raised off a King high flop
Raised SB after everyone everyone folds and she limped with 78s, flop 6 9 8 and she check calls, Turn Q and the bitch check raises me all in, can't call with only the OE and no FD...half stack gone

Then it was just shove folds to stay in touch and grind back to 100K...blinds hit me right on the break so down to 85K when we come back at 4k / 8K

Again from there it was just shove folds staying in touch, 2 orbits happen without a good spot, blinds go up, FML I've got 4 BBs!

Ship them in and BB folds

Ship next hand and get a call and my Tens hold to Ace rag and I'm up to 16...

Shove 13 with A8s in LP, BB calls and I out race his 33 to jump to 28BBs right when we make top 18...but it was all just air from there, donated 70K to a small stack with A9 vs 99, blinds go up and through me twice and I'm in strife again, blinding down and calling the 88 and mentioned first up

Average stack at this stage was 500K with blinds at 20K 40K with 10K ante...crapshoot

I did knock the reigning champion out though

All in all, still well stoked, but yeah, wanted more!!!
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WSOP Asia Pacific coming to Crown Casino in April 2013!

Wonder what impact this will have on the Aussie Millions...end of Jan to April isn't a huge gap, reckon some of the US/Europe pro's will only do one or the other being that Aussie is so far to get to.
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WSOP Asia Pacific coming to Crown Casino in April 2013!

Wonder what impact this will have on the Aussie Millions...end of Jan to April isn't a huge gap, reckon some of the US/Europe pro's will only do one or the other being that Aussie is so far to get to.

This is such huge news!! I cant wait till the schedule gets released and figure out how to make my first bracelet be won on aussie soil

Me...just been MTT'ing on stars lately...got a live 2nd in a 55 buck deepstack on Sunday but now just focused on crushing the 3.50 rebuys 190 on stars as well as trying to qualify into the APL Main Event in Sep @ Crown
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PokerStars Hand #80048295619: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2012/05/07 6:22:49 ET
Table 'Justitia III' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: allen72s ($38.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Grunher ($38.50 in chips)
Seat 3: wakeupfrog ($103 in chips)
Seat 4: ValeraBart ($115.72 in chips)
Seat 5: isacorrales ($117.06 in chips)
Seat 6: El_Chach ($178.14 in chips)
Seat 8: SpainT9 ($100 in chips)
Seat 9: roflmaoGGG ($104.50 in chips)
ValeraBart: posts small blind $0.50
isacorrales: posts big blind $1
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*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to El_Chach [Jd Js]
El_Chach: raises $2 to $3
SpainT9: raises $7 to $10
roflmaoGGG: folds
allen72s: folds
Grunher: folds
wakeupfrog: folds
ValeraBart: folds
isacorrales: folds
El_Chach: calls $7
*** FLOP *** [7h 8c Jh]
El_Chach: checks
SpainT9: bets $14.57
El_Chach: raises $29.43 to $44
SpainT9: raises $46 to $90 and is all-in
El_Chach: calls $46
*** TURN *** [7h 8c Jh] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [7h 8c Jh Kh] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
El_Chach: shows [Jd Js] (three of a kind, Jacks)
SpainT9: shows [Ks Kd] (three of a kind, Kings)
SpainT9 collected $198.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $201.50 | Rake $2.80
Board [7h 8c Jh Kh 5c]
Seat 1: allen72s folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Grunher folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: wakeupfrog (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ValeraBart (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: isacorrales (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: El_Chach showed [Jd Js] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 8: SpainT9 showed [Ks Kd] and won ($198.70) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 9: roflmaoGGG folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Balls...reckon that's about the most painful loses, flopped top set and losing
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Yep...not playing online though...and saving for trip to the US of A, so not "spare" money to risk at the casino either really
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so how's everyone been going? my news isn't to exciting, I ended up quitting playing online full time since it got to stressful, I was loosing my motivation/passion for the game and other factors like a full time job haha, but the 6 or so months I had off were good, now I'm back to the husngs but probably only a few hours each week for some pocket money if I can still beat the game
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Yep...not playing online though...and saving for trip to the US of A, so not "spare" money to risk at the casino either really

yeah well going in another tourney at crown won't hurt!

when you heading to the states? wasn't that duke guy going this year to the wsop?
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Yeah, chances of him being all talk are pretty high though!

Hawaii and New York for 3 weeks in July, haven't paid for squat aside from flights so far so need to knuckle down and save, so even the $200~ kinda games are just too much risk for me at the moment.

Doing west coast of the States as holiday after that, San Fran, LA and Vegas

What stakes were you playing when playing full time?
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