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Just to history nerd it a little more, the charge at the wall with ladders was actually rather uncommon also. It's a guaranteed great way to lose large amounts of troops in a short period of time and ruin the moral of your army. Thats why they tend to either knock a hole in the wall, collapse it with a tunnel or build a turtlle and smack the gates down. Or just starve them.

The wall/ladder charge became more popular with fantasy books.

So in that respect if we are gonna compare Stannis to RL leaders, he was pretty shit. But as someone pointed out it is just a book.

Actually he didn't use ladders in the book
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That's why I asked in my previous post what happened to him? He passed out cos of a cut to the face? Was there something else?





The actor's 20 but he looks like he's 14. I agree, he's doing a pretty awesome job.

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His face looks like its about to slide off, fair old injury
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Stannis can do whatever he likes, surely the Lord of Light will take care of him?
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wow!!! such a brilliant episode. i just fucking love tyrion

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the scene of cersei and her youngest (cant remember his name) sitting on the throne about to top themselves, was so brilliant, just the lighting and the space and the flashes to the door, expecting stannis to walk in.
such a brutal battle. and left wide open as to where each major player will end up.
unsure how bad tyrion is injured, and i think thats deliberate?, seems like it was shot to give the feeling of defeat and thats why he lay down, so you're unsure if he has given up or is about to die?


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His face looks like its about to slide off, fair old injury

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as if his cheek is hanging open.

it looks worse than i originally noticed on the TV but definately not as bad as they made out.
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I cant stand the guy that plays Stannis now either, doesn't fit the character IMO.



Now that guy, he would have been the perfect Stannis. Exactly like that character from Star Wars too.
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I think a bit more blood was warranted, anyone else ever had their face opened up? It bleeds, A LOT.

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I cant stand the guy that plays Stannis now either, doesn't fit the character IMO.



Now that guy, he would have been the perfect Stannis. Exactly like that character from Star Wars too.

He'd be about 102 now.

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it's a long cut across his entire face and blood is coming out

and he's only a "half-man", probably tired from a big battle and is prone to drunkenness

so unless there's something in
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He'd be about 102 now.

No shit, he has been dead for 18 years. But I think that's more the way Stannis should have looked.
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^ I just told about Richard the Lionheart, granted he didnt climb a wall but he got off a boat and with 4 other dudes charged off the docks and fought surrounded for at least 1 hour. The name escapes me atm but there was a Roman republic general who was first up and over a wall somewhere in the middle east though.

Yes but it was ore than likely he was fighting very inexperienced foes, and he and the 4 knights wre highly trained swordsmen. If youre thinking that "surrounded" meant that they had people constantly attacking them from all sides for an hour then i doubt that was the way it was. Plus they weren't climbing a wall with no armour on.

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I cant stand the guy that plays Stannis now either, doesn't fit the character IMO.


Now that guy, he would have been the perfect Stannis. Exactly like that character from Star Wars too.

but star wars wasn't real.
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Just to history nerd it a little more, the charge at the wall with ladders was actually rather uncommon also. It's a guaranteed great way to lose large amounts of troops in a short period of time and ruin the moral of your army. Thats why they tend to either knock a hole in the wall, collapse it with a tunnel or build a turtlle and smack the gates down. Or just starve them.

The wall/ladder charge became more popular with fantasy books.

So in that respect if we are gonna compare Stannis to RL leaders, he was pretty shit. But as someone pointed out it is just a book.

Asolutely true. I was going to point that out as well but thought it might be a hit much. Very rare to have a full charge at well defended walls with ladders! Especially as a first assault.
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I think a bit more blood was warranted, anyone else ever had their face opened up? It bleeds, A LOT.

You ever seen a surgical cut with an extremely sharp knife? Blood doesn't even appear for a while. A sharp, fast slice with a sword would look like that. It's done well, you guys are nitpicking ffs. Let it go.
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Characters like Cersei and Theon might act like total shits at times but their motivations are pretty human and they're sympathetic to a degree.

i think the conversations with sansa in 0209 speak volumes about her as a character and it was pretty interesting to see.

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so i really want to know what happens... i have the book infront of me... would it ruin it for me or not....

latest ep was awesome
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i think the conversations with sansa in 0209 speak volumes about her as a character and it was pretty interesting to see.

Cersei's a pretty compelling character. It's not often she opens up/lets her guard down, but when she does, it's usually rather fascinating.
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I feel like Cersi Connor sees herself in Sansa

I'd watch that.

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This is a show that

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features dragons and warlocks


and...

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you're seriously fucking arguing about the realism of a cut to the face
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S2E09

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Featured two of my favourite quotes of the series so far:

Cersei: "Tears aren't a womans only weapon. The best one's between your legs. Learn how to use it."

and

Hound: "Any man dies with a clean sword, I'll rape his fucking corpse"

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"Any of those flaming arrows come near me, I'll strangle you with your own guts."
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No shit, he has been dead for 18 years. But I think that's more the way Stannis should have looked.

Too old, he's Robert's younger brother remember, and Robert is of similar age to Ned Stark (35 in the books, but aged up maybe 10 years in the series). He's meant to be a wiry, hard looking guy in his early-mid 40s, not an old man.

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Also

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"Any of those FUCKING flaming arrows come near me, I'll strangle you with your own guts."

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This is a show that

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features dragons and warlocks


and...

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you're seriously fucking arguing about the realism of a cut to the face

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Partial cast list for season three:

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Mance Rayder: We’ve heard about him all season. A former member of the Night’s Watch who became the “King Beyond the Wall,” the leader of the Wildlings.
Daario Naharis: A confident and seductive warrior.
Jojen Reed; Meera Reed: A teenage brother and sister duo with special insights.
Edmure Tully: A brash young member of the Tully family.
Ser Brynden Tully (The Blackfish): Catelyn Stark’s uncle.
Lady Selyse Florent: Stannis Baratheon’s wife.
Shireen: Stannis’ daughter.
Olenna Redwyne (The Queen of Thorns): Margaery Tyrell’s sharp-witted grandmother.
Beric Dondarrion: A skilled knight who is the leader of the outlaw group Brotherhood Without Banners.
Thoros of Myr: A red priest who follows the same religion as Melisandre.
Tormund Giantsbane: A Wildling raider.

Aww shit. Definitely a few there that I thought might have been written out.
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I can't believe they're adding MORE characters. Fucking confusing!
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cause its hard enough keeping up with the hundreds of characters currently, as it is.
not all of us are nerds and have a seven kingdoms family tree poster above our beds


also funny that derelict mentioned he imagined satnnis more like the dude form star wars.
I started watching the show before i discovered the books, and have only just started reading the first one.
I imagine all the characters as they are in the show, and cant picture them as anything else
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ffs spesh, always with the book comparisons.

To be honest, other than a couple of exceptions, most of the characters look more or less as they are described in the books.
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When you boil it down precious, Game of Thrones is just a smaller scale LOTR.
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nah, GoT has more sense of realism that LOTR.
apart from the witches, warlocks & dragons.


so yeah.... totes real
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You ever seen a surgical cut with an extremely sharp knife? Blood doesn't even appear for a while. A sharp, fast slice with a sword would look like that. It's done well, you guys are nitpicking ffs. Let it go.

so wait, where not allowed to have a gripe we think his cut warranted more blood?
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Partial cast list for season three:



Aww shit. Definitely a few there that I thought might have been written out.

how the fuck is that ok to post in here when its talking about characters in the books that you havent seen yet but franko and i cop shit for the smallest things.

not complaining about me copping shit, complaining that none of you are whinging about this not being in the book thread

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I can't believe they're adding MORE characters. Fucking confusing!

Theyre not adding new characters for shits and giggles, they're part of the story. It's based on a bunch of novels with hundreds of characters, there's only so much they can leave out without changing the story entirely.
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Jrod: I asked B$ a while ago whether it was ok to post casting news - he said it was ok so long as there was no spoilerish discussion of those characters.
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Casting news is fine IMO, it's directly related to the series.
In the same way some mention of the books is fine as long as its directly pertinant and not just "I don't like how they changed...."
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Partial cast list for season three:



Aww shit. Definitely a few there that I thought might have been written out.

i love the description for Edmure Tully,

Edmure Tully: A brash young member of the Tully family.

nothing about him being Catelyn Starks brother or the heir to riverrun
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learning the upcoming characters that will appear in season 3 doesn't spoil the plot. quite simple really
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well i think it does and this is how (without indicating myself what happens)
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you now know mance is in it. which could indicate where you know jon is going.
that is a total spoiler in my opinion



so anyway.

for those that havent read the books
who do you think has survived and died during the battle? curious how a viewer saw it that doesnt know the outcomes.
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knowing that means nothing to me in terms of future story,

i dont think
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and i think hound and sansa escaped
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for those who love the actress who plays Sansa.
I dont find her that hot, yet. She has some potential thats for sure.

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