Having stairs inside a nightclub is a stupid idea. I stacked it big time.

The spiral ones at Brown Alley in Melbourne are the worst. Nearly sprained my ankle a few times going up and down them.

got home a couple of hours ago from spending the night at the other erin's. housemate's been home for less than 24 hours and the place is a fucking squalid shit hole already.

had to re-wash all of the dishes he did cos they were still covered in grease and food, and to do that i had to stick my hand into a sink full of cold water, scrambled eggs, champagne flutes, and fucking sharp knives. seriously dude? there's seriously not an inch of the shared areas that isn't trashed. HOW DOES HE EVEN. *seethe*

i feel like hacking a brain oyster into his fucking home brew.

... i feel somewhat better now.

^ thought i was a messy housemate but I can't hold a candle to that, what a grubby gronk.

So I'm going to the US in Sep/Oct & was originally meant to be going with a friend who bailed a couple of months ago because his parents could no longer afford to pay for him to go (hes over 30 WTF pay your own way anyway). I've happily been planning the trip as a solo venture ever since and have got most things organised and just need to book accom mainly in NYC & I'm set. He tells me today 'oh I might be able to meet you in NYC but won't know for sure until August when I get my tax back' which is fine but he also pointed out he wants me to not book anything until then because he doesn't want to stay anywhere on his own.

GET FUCKED. I'm not waiting until a month before I leave to find out that you're just going to cancel on me again and all the good accom is booked out. Grow some fucking balls and stay by yourself.

I'm booking my accom today.

/annoyed

Do it! Even on your own you will have a fantastic time. It's such a cool and easy place to get around on your own.

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Do it! Even on your own you will have a fantastic time. It's such a cool and easy place to get around on your own.

That's the plan!

I'm just irritated at being messed around

Yeah Bergs, fuck that noise, you're not his keeper! People are dicks! You should be putting all your effort into making sure your holiday is awesome-sauce!

I work with a guy that i don't get along with at all, sick of his stupid behaviour, sick of his childishness (i made a formal complaint about him at one point as had someone else, last week another staff member threatened to leave because of him and another staff member made a complaint about him to our immediate manager) and i have to admit im really frustrated with his lack of team work/co -operation etc.

I know you don't get along with everyone you work with, thats a given, but this one is particularly irritating.
Not really sure how to handle it anymore and it makes a stressful situation much worse.

if this is the same person we've already talked about Smorchy, i'm surprised nothing had been done already about this.

It is, and 'they' (upper management) had a talk with him, so now he doesnt talk to me at all (which is a relief), except to tell me what to do, which is really frustrating, because he is a co worker, he isnt above me, and demands things instead of asking with any kind of respect whatsoever.

I suppose the onus is kind of upon me to say something further to upper management, as they mentioned after the formal complaint if i have any further issues, to be sure to talk to them, however, if i go with what i have and what is bothering me, its just going to seem petty, furthermore, said person has an excuse for everything, and seemingly never takes responsibility for anything (which from what i can tell, has worked well in his favor thus far).

Sounds like you need to stand up to the guy yourself. It seems like he believes he is above you regardless of your respective positions. So what you need to do is put him back in his place.

Next time he tries to allocate work to you say:

How come you wern't in my yearly review?

He'll say: "what?" or something similar

Well you're my boss aren't you?

I am not your boss

Well stop telling me what to fucking do!

You could quack like a duck whenever he talks to you. Like repeatedly. He will soon leave you alone. This is great because if he makes a counter complaint just tell them you're practising your bird calls for hunting on the weekend. Get creative.
Or just tell him to climb a wall of dicks with his ass. Whatever.

Actually just laughed at the duck one, heaps good idea

We had someone like that in our team so we ostracised them. Didn't acknowledge their existence until they pulled their finger out and actually became a functioning part of the team.

It's the workplace not a school yard.

It's all well and good, until they start making this face at you:



"Heyyyyyyyyyyy co-workers..."

seven-point-six-two-millimetre-full-metal-jacket...

Be wary that inventive ways can always be turned back on you.
I'm not in HR, but particular tactics where you are trying to give them a dose of their own medicine can put you into just as much trouble.

So if you're struggling to make management actually do anything about it rather than a few misguided words what do you suggest?

Personally I would just tell them whats up face to face as obviously skirting around the issue isnt working. It shows both the offender that his shit does stink and shows management that they actually should've done something when you asked for their help.

I am sticking with the duck mating calls as a reasonable tactic to get him to steer well clear of you.

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So if you're struggling to make management actually do anything about it rather than a few misguided words what do you suggest?

Personally I would just tell them whats up face to face as obviously skirting around the issue isnt working. It shows both the offender that his shit does stink and shows management that they actually should've done something when you asked for their help.

I agree with being direct if you mean something along the lines of "You aren't my manager, so unless you become that, then I won't be taking orders from you". I'd expect that to be the first action to take before ever going to management.

If you are being a general dick back or using bully/intimidation/harassment tactics to get your point across you are no better than they are. Plus if they turn the attitude they are copping around on you and report it to management, then what backing do you have? Some shit poor un-adult excuse "they started it"? I agree with Zodiac that work is not a school ground.

The one thing would be to understand why management don't think that it is appropriate to action the complaint. Maybe, then it should give better guidance and understanding on the next steps. In the event that management/HR DON'T address it, then they are sending a clear message that they accept the behaviours. Employees do have the ability to report the behaviour/incident to a relevant fair work authority/ombudsman to make a complaint if there is reasonable grounds to and you have sufficient evidence. It might be considered extreme for what appears as a trivial matter. If management addressed the issue as they should have, then it shouldn't have gotten to this stage. If it does it probably shows that there are greater issues within that company that probably also need to be addressed.

Honestly, some of the places i've worked have been more of a playground than the schools ive attended in my time. It all depends on the work environment and who you're dealing with, once you've had a good look at that you should be able to know your best option. Sometimes it can be a quick word with the person / manager, other times you'd have to go to HR and in other cases, we'll you're just going to be a dick right back at them.

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got home a couple of hours ago from spending the night at the other erin's. housemate's been home for less than 24 hours and the place is a fucking squalid shit hole already.

had to re-wash all of the dishes he did cos they were still covered in grease and food, and to do that i had to stick my hand into a sink full of cold water, scrambled eggs, champagne flutes, and fucking sharp knives. seriously dude? there's seriously not an inch of the shared areas that isn't trashed. HOW DOES HE EVEN. *seethe*

i feel like hacking a brain oyster into his fucking home brew.

... i feel somewhat better now.

Should have moved in with me ;-p I'm clean and I cook and I like wine.

[For those that have been around too long, it would have been an epic debs & sway esc public living arrangement ]

Ha, so the Housemate that never paid a bill on time or bothered to take any financial responsibility for the house except the cleaners because she was too lazy to clean the house with me has gone ballistic because I won't pay her half the cleaner bill even though I still have all the outstanding bills on the house which will equal more than my share of the cleaners.

She was utterly offended when I said 'yes, I do have doubts you will pay me since it was hard enough to get you to pay when I was LIVING WITH YOU'

here's a tip, paying bills is not an option, nor is it okay to readily offer a 'payment plan' to your housemate (which I stupidly accepted) because you can't budget with a weekly pay.

^ the joys of housemate debt collection-what a merry circus it can become

i don't miss that at all. i enjoy living with just the bf. My sister is staying for a short time and its already shitting me, bloody using my things without asking.

maybe she just feels awkard having to say "big black vibrator" in conversation with a family member ^

ok, massive vent coming. and it's about religion so please feel free to avert your eyes. i just need to get this out cos it's killing me holding it in.

my dad's mother passed away yesterday, very sad situation. back story: my dad has been estranged from his family since he was a lad because they are exclusive bretheren and my dad was excommunicated when he decided he didn't want to live a life in what is essentially a cult. after he left, his siser left too cos she had always wanted to have a "normal" life but was afraid of leaving cos she'd lose her whole family, but once dad left it made it easier for her. so they went off and started living like ordinary, non cult-memeber people.

over the years, my grandfather has attempted to make contact with my dad, but he has bipolar disorder and the only time he was even kind to my dad is when he was on his meds and wanted dad to return to the bretheren, and he would say how much he misses him and wishes they could have a better relationship etc etc... and then the times when he was off his meds, he'd say he has no son and call dad spewing religious vitriol at him. dad spoke to his mother sometimes, but she would have to hide it from his father in case he dobbed on her to the bretheren and they kicked her out too. but that didn't continue because she ended up with severe altzheimers, not knowing who she was anymore let alone who my dad was.

i have never met either of them, and i have another auntie who i don't know cos she is still with the bretheren. she has creepy bretheren kids that i don't know either. so basically my whole life i never knew my dad's family, but i have known the reasons why since i was old enough to understand. i was sad to learn about my grandmother's death yesterday, it really affected me, more than i ever thought it could. so i got in touch with my cousin and auntie yesterday to see how they were doing, and my auntie is really cut up about it. she went to see her mother last night just so she could pay her respects, and the fucking scumbags, being my grandfather and my other bretheren auntie, tried to convert her and my cousin back to the church. when they resisted, they were asked to leave and told they were not welcome at the funeral. this is her fucking MOTHER'S funeral, and she isn't allowed to attend because she's excommunicated.

and this is all in the name of god.

i hate that this is what happened to my dad's family. i have missed out on so much, but then i have gained so much in that I was able to grow up in a better environment than these fucking bretheren freaks. i don't know how to feel. i'm angry and sad, it's bringing out alot of supressed feelings and i don't know how to deal with it all

in summary, FUCK RELIGION.

the end.

That really sucks Trippy.

I wouldn't even begin to know how to offer advice on such a scenario other than to do as much as you can to support your dad and aunty because whatever you're feeling they are feeling it worse.

Best of luck and you can always go and pay your respects at the burial site (or whatever it may be) at a later date.

thanks coezi the thing with my dad is that his upringing has left him really quite void of emotion, which in itself makes me upset cos i think it's so bizarre that he doesn't seem to be affected by his mother's passing. he probably is though, but he hides it well. my auntie is shattered though. unfortunately (for them? lol) they live in tassie now so i am hoping i can get some time off work soon to go visit, and hopefully visit the burial site.

Thats fucking ridiculous Tripp, I am sorry to hear that, religion is a fucked up thing when it starts to destoy families.
I am happy to not be religious, Ive had (not that its any comparison to your family story) a friend who was 18 when she was told to quit her job, leave school and marry some fella she didnt know. He speaks no english, and doesnt work and freeloads off her family (i hope he isnt abusive, but she'd never tell anyone if he was) Muslims have some fucked-up systems.

Lots of men are good at hiding their true feelings. A lot of us were brought up that way. Doesn't mean they aren't there as you already pointed out.

Just give him a good hug and let him know he's done a good job with his family, otherwise you wouldn't care as much as you do right?

I just want normal jam.

Not fucking ginger conserve, not fucking apricot and rhubarb spread.

Just. Fucking. Jam.

^ whats the difference between jam and marmalade?

Spoiler:

you can't marmalade your dick up a chicks arse

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Should have moved in with me ;-p I'm clean and I cook and I like wine.

[For those that have been around too long, it would have been an epic debs & sway esc public living arrangement ]

I thought me & Eddie were the new Debz & Sway for a while

What happened to them after their epic bust-up anyway?

That's going back a bit.

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^ whats the difference between jam and marmalade?

Spoiler:

you can't marmalade your dick up a chicks arse

That's...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....crass?

lol jam is being used as both an adjective and a noun this is why it is funny and also flies on the side of being clever

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That's going back a bit.

I'm old.

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Thats fucking ridiculous Tripp, I am sorry to hear that, religion is a fucked up thing when it starts to destoy families.
I am happy to not be religious, Ive had (not that its any comparison to your family story) a friend who was 18 when she was told to quit her job, leave school and marry some fella she didnt know. He speaks no english, and doesnt work and freeloads off her family (i hope he isnt abusive, but she'd never tell anyone if he was) Muslims have some fucked-up systems.

me too, i really owe a lot to my dad for the sacrifices he made when he was young, so me and my sister's could have a life without those religious confines... i mean, look, not all religion is bad, i see the merit in some of it, but when it destroys families and relationships i don't understand how it can be a good thing. i feel sorry for your friend, i can't imagine that kind of situation there are certainly many, many people out there worse off than my family in terms of the carnage these hardcore religious views can cause. my dad broke the chain for us and i owe everything i have right now to that. who knows what i'd be if he didn't have the courage to leave?!

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Lots of men are good at hiding their true feelings. A lot of us were brought up that way. Doesn't mean they aren't there as you already pointed out.

Just give him a good hug and let him know he's done a good job with his family, otherwise you wouldn't care as much as you do right?

he's damn good at hiding his feelings, and he has never been a very open person emotionally... except when he's angry, faaaark!

he is in korea right now i think that's made this a bit harder to cope with too cos i can't just go and see him.

i spent my lunch break looking at old family photos that my cousin found, that was kinda fun! i look EXACTLY like my dad when he was about 16. proves that my sister was lying all those times she told me i was adopted

(btw, thanks for your input on this, peeps. it is appreciated )

^ the exclusive bretheren do immense damage to those families whos members they have managed to brainwash, it's very sad. You get alot of ostracisation in various families where people just can't work things out-but there is something extra vile about an organisation that actively does those things.

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maybe she just feels awkard having to say "big black vibrator" in conversation with a family member ^

I was talking about my hair straightener and mascara. Please don't use my mascara of all things!!!!!

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ok, massive vent coming. and it's about religion so please feel free to avert your eyes. i just need to get this out cos it's killing me holding it in.

my dad's mother passed away yesterday, very sad situation. back story: my dad has been estranged from his family since he was a lad because they are exclusive bretheren and my dad was excommunicated when he decided he didn't want to live a life in what is essentially a cult. after he left, his siser left too cos she had always wanted to have a "normal" life but was afraid of leaving cos she'd lose her whole family, but once dad left it made it easier for her. so they went off and started living like ordinary, non cult-memeber people.

over the years, my grandfather has attempted to make contact with my dad, but he has bipolar disorder and the only time he was even kind to my dad is when he was on his meds and wanted dad to return to the bretheren, and he would say how much he misses him and wishes they could have a better relationship etc etc... and then the times when he was off his meds, he'd say he has no son and call dad spewing religious vitriol at him. dad spoke to his mother sometimes, but she would have to hide it from his father in case he dobbed on her to the bretheren and they kicked her out too. but that didn't continue because she ended up with severe altzheimers, not knowing who she was anymore let alone who my dad was.

i have never met either of them, and i have another auntie who i don't know cos she is still with the bretheren. she has creepy bretheren kids that i don't know either. so basically my whole life i never knew my dad's family, but i have known the reasons why since i was old enough to understand. i was sad to learn about my grandmother's death yesterday, it really affected me, more than i ever thought it could. so i got in touch with my cousin and auntie yesterday to see how they were doing, and my auntie is really cut up about it. she went to see her mother last night just so she could pay her respects, and the fucking scumbags, being my grandfather and my other bretheren auntie, tried to convert her and my cousin back to the church. when they resisted, they were asked to leave and told they were not welcome at the funeral. this is her fucking MOTHER'S funeral, and she isn't allowed to attend because she's excommunicated.

and this is all in the name of god.

i hate that this is what happened to my dad's family. i have missed out on so much, but then i have gained so much in that I was able to grow up in a better environment than these fucking bretheren freaks. i don't know how to feel. i'm angry and sad, it's bringing out alot of supressed feelings and i don't know how to deal with it all

in summary, FUCK RELIGION.

the end.

There's Brethos in Kerang, they make tasty shortbread which we refer to as "Bretho Bickies".

True story.

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lol jam is being used as both an adjective and a noun this is why it is funny and also flies on the side of being clever

Verb

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Verb

Yeh, that's what he meant

my mother tried to use icloud, forgetting she's using my itunes account. now i have all her crappy music on my ipod.
vengaboys, ministry of sound running trax, nickelback and hilltop hoods to name a few. Shuffle is dead to me.

Sounds like your mums keen for a party. Post pics?

Hope that one gets your rocks off.

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my mother tried to use icloud, forgetting she's using my itunes account. now i have all her crappy music on my ipod.
vengaboys, ministry of sound running trax, nickelback and hilltop hoods to name a few. Shuffle is dead to me.

Create playlist in iTunes with all YOUR music in it, set iTunes to sync only that playlist to iPod, problem solved. Lrn2iTunes

Its not my itunes settings, it my icloud settings, and she keeps changing them back, so whats on her iphone is shared to mine whenever were using the same wifi. My itunes is set to manually manage music, like all the cool kids.