I actually thought she was fairly average looking in this movie. I usually think she's hawwwt, but felt a bit meh with her in Prometheus... maybe because she seemed like such a jaded bitch.
Anyway, if you have time and can sift through some of the fanboyism in here, worth a read http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1 - even if it's completely off the mark, it's an interesting read none-the-less
hehe, naturally, just wondering if it will help or hinder the (what is said to be) a fairly convoluted and confusing storyline...probably just help to not even see the gaping plotholes
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The movie was pretty good, didn't piss me off too much like it has with some.
Did Idris Elba (the ships' captain) say "Prometheus has landed" in the movie, like in all the trailers, or was that line left out? I was waiting for it but it never came.
That is the only question that the movie has left me with.
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The movie was pretty good, didn't piss me off too much like it has with some.
Did Idris Elba (the ships' captain) say "Prometheus has landed" in the movie, like in all the trailers, or was that line left out? I was waiting for it but it never came.
That is the only question that the movie has left me with.
There's was a couple of scenes in the trailer that weren't in the movie. Like the one of Shaw putting her hands together to pray in front of the mirror after the "procedure", but they cut the scene short in the movie.
I thought it was pretty awesome. By no means perfect. But still a good enjoyable flick.
The only thing that I really disliked about it was that the character development was basically non-existant or not enough for everyone, especially the lead female character (I don't even know her characters name, that shows how bad it was). The only character that was developed enough was the character of David.
I blame this to them either editing the shit out of it, or the fact there were wayyy too many characters
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oh and what about that guy that had his arm snapped by that big worm thing - I thought that creature went down his throat and layed an egg, but no alien ended up popping out of his chest... Did they just completely forget that?
The whole intention of the trip was to meet the engineers so they could save Weyland from dieing. They arrive, no engineers to be found at that point, and so David reports back to Weyland. Weyland tells him to "Try harder".
And so with not many options open to him, David decides to infect someone with the black oil, just to see if anything beneficial can come of it.
He knows chances are it will be dangerous, but he has his orders... and really doesn't mind that it might kill the human who has been a rude **** to him.
He asked Holloway at one point before they embarked on their mission the the Engineers temple/cave 'How far are you willing to go? He answered something along the lines of 'As far as I need too'
I think David took that as a kind of justification for spiking his drink. You're right though, not very clear motive.
saw this on wed and was very underwhelmed, the storyline is little more than a pencil sketch and as ezza69 said there bugger all character development.
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also, did I get my maths wrong or did the analysis of the atomospheric gases add up to more than 100%
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Two thoughts leaving the cinema.
Underwhelmed and confused. WTF did I just watch? Saying I was disappointed would be a huge understatement :*(
Oh and FUCK 3D. It added NOTHING to the film, except forcing me to wear those awful glasses.
I thought it was pretty awesome. By no means perfect. But still a good enjoyable flick.
The only thing that I really disliked about it was that the character development was basically non-existant or not enough for everyone, especially the lead female character (I don't even know her characters name, that shows how bad it was). The only character that was developed enough was the character of David.
I blame this to them either editing the shit out of it, or the fact there were wayyy too many characters
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oh and what about that guy that had his arm snapped by that big worm thing - I thought that creature went down his throat and layed an egg, but no alien ended up popping out of his chest... Did they just completely forget that?
Main characters name was Elizabeth Shaw, they only said it about 500 times <_<
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Remember in Alien when they come across the Space Jockey pilot he is sitting in the chair with his chest burst, not sure what the significance of that is but maybe that bloke ends up there?
oh and what about that guy that had his arm snapped by that big worm thing - I thought that creature went down his throat and layed an egg, but no alien ended up popping out of his chest... Did they just completely forget that?
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Remember in Alien when they come across the Space Jockey pilot he is sitting in the chair with his chest burst, not sure what the significance of that is but maybe that bloke ends up there?
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It did go into his throat, once they returned to look for them the worm came back out of his gaping mouth and back into the black ooze.
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It's to tie the two movies together and proposes the question, how many engineer ships could there be?
I loved it, there were a lot of unexplained things but i love that about sci fi movies, it keeps you thinking well after you walk out of the cinema.
Alien and Aliens are two of my all time favs but i didnt make the mistake of thinking that these movies were closely related (which i think most of the disappointed people have), as a stand alone epic it was truly excellent.
I do need a few things answered though
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what was the connection between the ooze and getting her pregnant? I thought it was only a bio weapon designed to kill
why were they planning on destroying earth? Was it a kind of 'refreshing' of the planet?
In the big scale of things, What were the worms?
How did contact with the 'ooze' kill one guy and make another (via the worm) super strong and crazy?
8/10
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Eric Prydz parachuting naked from a plane followed by White Michael Jackson Vs Black Michael Jackson soundtracked by Nirvana feat The Beatles and Wolverine? even then I don't think that would be appreciated...
I saw it at Imax and enjoyed the crap out of it, too...yes, it wasn't quite at the level I was wanting it to be, but not half as bad as some are making it out to be.
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what was the connection between the ooze and getting her pregnant? I thought it was only a bio weapon designed to kill
Never really properly explained, just one person theory it was a weapon, but I guess whatever it was is designed that way, rather than make face huggers/egg layers, it infects the males, they make the females pregnant which then creates the face hugger/egg layer thing which killed the Engineer at the end
why were they planning on destroying earth? Was it a kind of 'refreshing' of the planet?
I took it to be a cleansing kinda thing, population control/restart...what they engineer was fucked and destroying the host planet (like we are!) so they were intruducing a new species to wipe us out
In the big scale of things, What were the worms?
Good question! Maybe there were nothing, just worms, that once they came in contact with the ooze they mutated? I thought the Ooze to be like the stuff from the opening sequence when an Engineer drank it, fell apart and created humans, this ooze was going to do a similar thing, but create something whichw as to kill the humans...not sure if the worms actually had any relivance to this or not.
How did contact with the 'ooze' kill one guy and make another (via the worm) super strong and crazy?
Well the guy who ingested the ooze was flamed to death before we really know what was going to happen to him, possible the same thing...and crazy geologist dude was made out to be more fucked over by the acid coming from the worm he cut off the other guy than the ooze itself, so know knows what caused him to turn psycho really
So yeah, it had it's holes/unanswered questions, but most sci fi's do, and as a spectical on the Imax screen, it was awesome, the action sequences were brilliant...but
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the running in the path of the crashing ship instead of off to the side was the most retarded thing ever though, seemed to be done just to kill Charlize's character when there was plenty of other ways to have he die, could have let the Engineer rip her to shreds before Shaw open the door to the med bay the let her baby out.
All in all, I think a 7/10 is deserve here...which really is still a fairly decent flick
Also agree that the 3D didn't really do much, even on the Imax screen, while epic, it just ends up making my eyes hurt/water and honestly doesn't change how good the overall quality of the movie/story/characters/plot is one little bit.
Kinda hope some critics are right when they say that 3D will just be a fad like it was back in the day and will fade out again...a great movie is great without it, and a bad one, well, you're just polishing a turd really, eh?
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Saw it last night, Vmax 3D, I actually quite liked the 3D, it was more understated. Not a massive fan of the film, more holes than a swiss cheese and it just felt rushed.
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1. Why after going to the effort of getting something ripped out of her stomach did she run away without checking it was dead? why or how did it grow? How did someone not notice that room was in a complete mess and check it out?
2. Why did she get pregnant with that thing in the first place? It makes no sense. A super-rapid pregnancy of something that then impregnates a space jockey to make the first alien? Why? Where's the leap in the genetics to create that being???
3. Why did the geologist turn into a super-human crazy person and attack the crew? Last I saw of him his helmet was melting into his face. Also, those helmets are fucking weak as piss - getting smashed all over the place.
4. Why did the space jockey immediately attack everyone when getting woken up? Why not say something? Annoyed me.
5. I know people on here have explained why David spiked the drink with the black stuff but it's still a crap explanation and I feel like they cut out tons of scenes with Weyland which might have given a better back story as to why he did that.
6. Bit odd that they didn't do any prep until they came of stasis, then suddenly they're meeting each other for the first time, so inter-space missions require no preparation??
7. Why didn't Charlize just roll out of the way of the spaceship like the other chick?
8. Why does every sci-fi movie involve a crew of people with obvious mental disorders and with an almost pathological hatred of following orders?
9. So many decisions were made that intentionally put people into danger. I don't fucking care how much someone is into discovering new species, if a slimey snake thing emerges from some weird black stuff any human would keep the fuck away from it!
10. So many jumps in narrative, it rattles along at such a pace.
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Yeah the decision making of the characters is what bugged me the most, so irrational :/ If I was chosen for some space mission, i'd do exactly what I was told and put there to do, especially when they don't know what to expect.
saw it friday night forgot my glasses by the end of the film had a headache/mirgran that had me yaking in the car park. from what a i saw it was a good movie but general consenses of people was not good. have to see it again
the opening scene was the creation of humans on earth
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I went in with low expectations, but quite enjoyed this.
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Agree with most of the comments about the crew being quite useless; that geologist was taking the piss.
Re the engineers wanting to destroy the earth, my thoughts was that earth was just a testing ground. They were creating biological weapons on LV-223, and to test them out they had populated a planet, just to destroy it and see what happens
agreed, it'll taint all the good memories of the original series.
if you want to drool over Charlize then I'm thinking wait till Snow White comes out cause she's pretty well frocked up in that
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Re the engineers wanting to destroy the earth, my thoughts was that earth was just a testing ground. They were creating biological weapons on LV-223, and to test them out they had populated a planet, just to destroy it and see what happens
Shit that's a depressing take on it!
I don't agree tho because
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the oldest cave painting showing the star/planet pattern that lead them to LV-223 was over 35000 years old...but they carbon dated the dead Engineer whos head had been crushed by the closing bulk head door to be only 2000 years old...if the painting was over 35K YO, they arguably would have created "man" some time before that, so they just waited around approx 35000 years to test out a weapon?
Doesn't gel...I think they created us, realisd we were a fucking failure and were destroying the planet, so they were introducing a new species to wipe us out again, but things went wrong for them somehow and they never got to launch before something happened which cause their deaths...who knows what that was though, as it can't have been the "virus" or what evs getting free as they'd have been other creatures on the planet, not just them dead...or not, who knows!
Then again that doesn't exactly gel as 2000 years ago were weren't over populating/living longer than we should and destroying the planet...we were warring with ourselves though, but yeah, it's unanswereable really...roll on part 2!
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If the space jockey created life on earth, why did we end up with the exact same DNA as them but the earth is filled with biodiversity of completely different DNA? We are at the end of the evolutionary chain, not the beginning? It couldn’t go Space Jockey Ã* millions of years of evolution Ã* back to us and we magically have the same DNA?
Why would the navigators have left pointers on earth for us, back to a weapons base? (if that’s what it was…). It's like "ooo here's our secret weapons base"
And what went wrong? Why did they all die there? And why leave one alive?
And why use black goo? What about "big fucking missile"?
maybe they were going for the grey goo scenario, but the goo didn't want to stay goo. it did seem to be pretty good at evolving itself everytime it reproduced
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also another thing that bugged me was the whole "why did you make us" motivation, sif knowing why they did what they did would suddenly make life make sense. Face it, it's probably the exact reason David got for why he was made. It's all 'daddy issues' to me, grow up and decide your own meaning
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Yeah basically that. Which is a shame. But a lot of it just didn't make sense.
I loved Alien - ship crew get infected with space monster which exits through the chest cavity, grows rapidly into exquisite killing machine, stalks the crew around the ship, shenanigans ensue.
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Glad they left that out.. and whatever it involves. Just comes off as very Holier Than Thou and then reading that in Scott's original vision, the Engineers wished to wipe out humanity as they had crucified one of them, who we mistook for a certain son of God.
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Glad they left that out.. and whatever it involves. Just comes off as very Holier Than Thou and then reading that in Scott's original vision, the Engineers wished to wipe out humanity as they had crucified one of them, who we mistook for a certain son of God.
Glad they took that out, as although historical note taking 2000 years ago might have been a bit shoddy you'd think they'd have noticed if the "son of god" was 8 foot tall and looked like they were carved out of marble....