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Spain 3.35
Germany 3.70
France 8.50
England 12.00
Italy 14.00
Portugal 14.00
Russia 14.00
Netherlands 29.00
Croatia 34.00
Poland 55.00
Czech Republic 71.00
Denmark 71.00
Ukraine 81.00
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The most heinous outrage of the whole game for me was the Swedish coach wearing a belt with a waistcoat and buttoning his bottom button of said waistcoat. Crime


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Wonderful defending from England for Sweden's second. Bettered only by Ibra giving it large to Hart.

Don't even know if Hart understood him.

What was it for though? - just a bit of friendly multi-lingual banter?
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Fwark, what about that storm?

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The best thing about the Euros is Danny Welbeck's 1980s black man hair do.

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The best thing about the Euros is Danny Welbeck's 1980s black man hair do.

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The Greeks are a jammy bunch if ****s.
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Crazy result this morning. Fucking Greeks, they've done it again!
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Still think its kinda retarded that it's based on head to head and not goal difference....
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Why? Head to head is much better.
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I can see both sides actually...

tbh, I'm just a little bitter about Russia going out when its obvious they can play better football than Greece.
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They'll get thumped by Germany either way...
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Hellas ole!

What a great win. They were fucked by the refs in each game. Two disallowed goals and neither was offside. Karagounis should have had a penalty, yet was given a yellow for diving.

Fair play to the Greeks, they were up against it in each game.

And let's not forget the Czechs, lost their first game 4-1, came back and topped the group.

Amazing group!
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on the subject of progressing to the next round:

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A key question, if a team is to get out of the group, is how many points do they need?

Since the European Championships expanded to 16 teams in 1996, the average number of points accumulated by group winners has been 7.56. Second-placed teams have, on average, collected just shy of five points (4.875 to be exact). Following this logic, five points or more are probably needed to advance.

Since the Euros went to 16, only once has a team accumulated five points and not qualified.

Italy have the misfortune of holding this record and can blame Bulgaria (for losing all their group games) and a Scandinavian alliance of Sweden and Denmark, who conveniently played out a two-all draw in their final group game, having known before the game, that such a result would ensure qualification for both to the knockout stages, regardless of what the Italians did.

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An alternative way of looking at this question is to identify all the possible outcomes of a four team group and then calculate the number of times a given number of points guarantees qualification. Collectively the teams in a group could end up with a minimum of 12 points (all matches end in draws) or a maximum of 18 points (all matches end in wins with one team winning three, the next winning two, the next winning one and the final team winning none) between them.

A little bit of number crunching indicates that there are an incredible 729 possible outcomes in total for a four-team group where each team plays each other only once. The figures suggest that teams are guaranteed to be in the top two of their if they get seven points or more.

Amazingly, teams have the same chance of qualification by accumulating either five or six points. Either outcome ensures guaranteed qualification 96.30% of the time, with the remaining 3.70% representing situations where two (or more) teams are tied on the same number of points and qualification is decided by UEFA rules (according to the UEFA website it appears that it is the number of points obtained in the matches among the teams in question is the first set of criteria).

The fact that it doesn’t matter whether teams have five or six points can be explained by the relative difference in pay-offs of three points for a win and one for a draw.

Qualification gets increasingly less likely however when we move to a total number of points of less than five. Managing to gather just four would guarantee qualification a little over a quarter of the time (27.78%).

With four points, there is a greater chance (54.32%) of two (or more) teams vying for qualification, being tied on the same number of points. Moreover, elimination is possible with four points 17.90% of the time. Managing to win just three points in the group makes qualification very difficult. Guaranteed qualification to the next phase will occur just 3.70% of the time with a further 13.89% chance of qualification from having a better record than a team with the same points.

Elimination occurs in more than four out of five cases when a team has three points. On two points, it is still possible to qualify but only situations where the team is level on points and qualifies via UEFA rules. This occurs less than 4% of the time. An early flight home is guaranteed for any team with one or no points after the group games.

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What the statistics suggest is that a win in one of the three games is a minimum requirement for qualification. A draw in one of the other games would then leave a team with at least four points and in a reasonable position to qualify. This should be an achievable target for a team, but five points or more would be ideal.

There are four ways a team can achieve this return.
• Win all games, which is highly unlikely.
• Win two and draw one, which is improbable.
• Win two and lose one, which is possible but difficult.
• Lastly, win once and draw the other two, which of all outcomes probably represents a lower ranked team’s best chance of qualification.

Thus, a loss in any game will potentially be a knockout blow to achieving the magic total of five points.

Teams must aim to avoid such a scenario in the opening game to get off to a good start. Otherwise the team will have to win twice in the group stages

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The Greeks were completely fucked over in games 1 and 2 so it shouldn't have even been down to this result.

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Italies woes against Denamrk and Sweden.
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Fuck there goes 80% of my long shot punts in the one round
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Spain's HQ is over an hour's drive from Gdansk in rolling countryside, isolated from the tournament noise. It has been installed with pool tables, table tennis, Parchãs (a Spanish equivalent of Ludo) and even a Scalextric, as requested by Andrés Iniesta.

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as if you wouldnt just play fifa the whole time?
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Gay jokes about Greeks don't even need to be made. It's automatically implied.
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fucking greece. this tournament sucks

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Still think its kinda retarded that it's based on head to head and not goal difference....

indeed. should be GD then h2h. russia were robbed
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Russia knew the rules and they lost. Suck it. Welcome to the real world.
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i just don't like shit teams who park the bus going through at the expense of good teams. so boring to watch anti-football stoke tactics. hope germany hit them for double figures and send them home crying. yes i am bitter
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Had they won, they wouldn't have any trouble getting through. They have the skills, they could have played better.
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Yes they will or my $20 on them to win it goes to waste .

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i just don't like shit teams who park the bus going through at the expense of good teams. so boring to watch anti-football stoke tactics. hope germany hit them for double figures and send them home crying. yes i am bitter

isnt that how chelsea won the champions league?
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isnt that how chelsea won the champions league?

Yes and it was shit to watch for anyone that isn't retarded enough to be a Chelsea fan.
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head to head... it would make a bit more sense to me if the teams played each other more than once.

Can see both sides of the coin though.
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That would be a long tournament.

Platini wants 24 teams next time out, so a 'home and away' fixture list would be way too long
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So who's everyone tippin to winit?


I think the French are gunna do it but ze Germans & Spanish will prob prove.me rong
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I didn't say they shouldn't play each other twice in the Euro's... that would be stupid.

I said the head to head rule would make more sense if they did.
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French look very strong, indeed.

Put $5 on the French for me, Dero
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I didn't say they shouldn't play each other twice in the Euro's... that would be stupid.

I said the head to head rule would make more sense if they did.

You did indeed. Point taken.
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So who's everyone tippin to winit?


I think the French are gunna do it but ze Germans & Spanish will prob prove.me rong


England are going to win of course
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Utter horror for the Greek FA, as they realise that they're going to have to book a hotel for another week.
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Just checked if Setanta-i works on my work laptop. It does!

I'll be in Melbourne on Tuesday morning for a work conference but I'll be watching the Croatia-Spain game live on my lappy. Wooooo!

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Unless of course we find somewhere local that is showing it
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i just don't like shit teams who park the bus going through at the expense of good teams. so boring to watch anti-football stoke tactics. hope germany hit them for double figures and send them home crying. yes i am bitter

I dont think that is particularly fair on greece.

They clearly are nowhere near as good with the ball as Russia, so they have to play to their strengths. And to be honest, they had the best chances of the game. They should have had a penalty, hit the cross bar and looked far more dangerous going forward than Russia.

But their defense was so well organised, Russia hardly looked like scoring all game, and any of their shots that were close were generally from long range.
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However, greece to get knock out of two euros in one week?
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France haven't played a decent opponent yet, bit soon to be talking them up just yet.
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They did well to snatch a draw against the eventual winners.
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100 Caps for Podolski...... he's 27. Youngest European ever to reach that mark. Crazy.
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Lucky he doesn't have to live in a foreign country for internationals.
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First time The Netherlands have lost all of their group matches in a major tournament
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Podolski should be playing for Poland...

Anyway, Holland is Portugal's bitch once again. Ronaldo finding form when it matters.

We should get past the Czechs and at least make the semi's.
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Podolski should be playing for Poland...

How do you work that one out?

If that's the case, Pepe should be playing for Brazil.
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