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It looks like Ableton have a competitor in town (BITWIG)...
From what I've heard there have been internal disputes at Ableton and a new piece of production/performance software is arriving quite soon.

I can't post a link being a new user.

Just Google BITWIG
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Yep, signed up to Beta/Newsletter this morning. Looks promising.
A bunch of the developers are ex-Ableton guys and from other daws and audio production companies.

I'll post the link for you:

http://www.bitwig.com/bitwig_studio.php
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Wow, lan jamming and native modular system look like some damn cool features.
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This looks great, wonder when the Beta comes out.
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Competitor or blatant copy ?
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Competitor or blatant copy ?

A bunch of them are ex-Ableton as I said. So think of it as an improvement or evolution.

I didn't think anything would draw me away from Ableton any time soon but I'll tell you what, this REALLY interests me.
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I wonder if any of these features will be present in Live 9..
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I'd jump ship in an instant if it's good.

Ditto that! I like ableton... but its a little bit by default, isn't it? There is so much room to push the envelope.
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What do you mean by "its a little bit by default" ??
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What do you mean by "its a little bit by default" ??

How many mac-based clip-matrix based live performance programs can you think of?
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I see what you mean.
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talk is that is actually abelton 9.
wouldnt suprise me, given that the plugins look EXACTLY like those of abelton
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I cant see Abletron changing their name
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So will Ableton plugins be compatible with this?
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I highly doubt it.
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have a look at the picks, im pretty sure i see an EQ8 in there
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talk is that is actually abelton 9.
wouldnt suprise me, given that the plugins look EXACTLY like those of abelton

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The colours make it look alot like FL
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An ableton for Production? That sounds awesome! Signed up for beta- cheers
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It's not Ableton. That's fairly evident for a number of reasons.
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Do we really need another DAW?
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Do we really need another DAW?

Every DAW has at least one pretty major problem- there's definitely room for improvement in the market I reckon-- why not?
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Every DAW has at least one pretty major problem- there's definitely room for improvement in the market I reckon-- why not?

THIS.

more competitors = more each company will try harder.

i bet this has motivated the people at live to up their game and bring out a lot this features in 9
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more competitors = more each company will try harder.

=more doing their own take on each others good ideas/improving on them.
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Agreed, don't think we're at the stage where we have too much choice. Besides, I'm tired of hearing that Live is the last word in anything production related and if this bad boy can knock Live from its throne then maybe people will start to see it's the user and not the software that makes the music.

Though one thing I've got a boner for right now is the consistent UI. Can't stand how every thing FL has a different style to it haha damn I'm shallow.
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Cubase + some of Lives features would be perfection.

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First video of the beta...

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that video makes me think that it's nothing but a bright looking ableton clone.
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Woohoo there's going to be a Linux version!

Don't think that'll offer many options for VST's though. But would permit you to run an incredibly stripped back OS tailored for audio. Apparently the Receptor uses the linux kernel emulating a windows VST host, and it manages to run a lot faster than a native windows box. Wonder if BitWig could do something similar?

I'm also curious if the ex-Ableton employees ran off with some of the Ableton source code?
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so the beta has just been released. exciting stuff!
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I use ableton and i gotta admit this looks really cool!
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Beta feedback is pretty good so far.
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Lookin good and sounding promising, I signed up for beta testing ages ago but missed out on an invite
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