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I need to stop talking about buying a bike and do it. Want it at first for riding around locally and mainly to the girlfriends house ( abotu 5km away) and to the train station.

Eventual goal is to ride into work a few times a week ( about 20-25 kms).

Trek 1.2 2012--> something like that okay for $850

For a first bike? Or anyone in Perth know any good (cheap) places?
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that looks.... unpleasant.

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Or should I be going the "Merida Ride 88 2012" instead of the TREK?
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Or should I be going the "Merida Ride 88 2012" instead of the TREK?

nah that one has a mix of sora/2300 it seems. the trek is sora/tiagra. mcdoofus bought that trek a few months ago and seems happy enough with it.

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Mcdoofus haha?

Okay cool, thats basically the low range bikes at my local store and by all accounts if you buy from a local store its beneficial in the long run for services/etc ?

I dunno what Sora/tiagra is either
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the running gear of the bike.

http://www.shimano.com.au/publish/co...road/sora.html

bottom of the range is the 2300, then sora, and so on... differences up the chain (heh, pun) generally are quality, weight and some functionality.

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I also checked out hte Trek Lexa S 2012 ... Though it looks like thats for women after reading up on it more haha... /amateur
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Col thanks I was just doing some reading up on it then, sounds like tiagra is the best of the three ( all on the low end of the spectrum).

Im gonna go test out the Trek tonight anyway, I just dont want to be overpaying heaps haha!

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Chi Red/Trek White
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100 Series Alpha Aluminum
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Bontrager Approved, carbon legs
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43, 47, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60, 62cm
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H2
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Bontrager T1, 700x23c (43cm: 650x23c)
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Shimano Sora STI, 9 speed
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Shimano Sora, 34. 9mm clamp
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Shimano Tiagra
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FSA Vero, 50/34 (compact)
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Nylon body w/alloy cage
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Bontrager Race Lite Alloy, infinite tilt adjustment, 20mm offset
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Bontrager Race VR-C, 31. 8mm
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Bontrager SSR, 10 degree, 31. 8mm
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1-1/8" semi-cartridge bearings
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Or anyone in Perth know any good (cheap) places?

perth's best bike stores:

cycles bespoke - bayswater - these guys are helpful and friendly as, they have a fairly decent range of bikes but where they become the best bike store is in their servicing, they do great work all in house with quick turnaround times.

elite racing cycles - northbridge - these guys have a great range of bikes from cheap-ish to high end, they're happy to talk about bikes and not try and rush you in to anything and again quick turnaround times with servicing.

though these stores might not have the bike you want to buy, once you've got a bike they're the best places to take it for a service. (imho).

not sure if someone's posted it, but www.bikeexchange.com.au should help you find a bike that will suit your needs in your price range.

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Thanks man, I hadnt seen the bikeexchange thing, that looks very good!

http://www.bikeexchange.com.au/bicyc...a/wa/102048439

Giant Defy 3 for $800 seems like my new target in Wangara ( I am up North anyway) so will go check that out on Saturday . Thanks mate!
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well, according to dictionary.com
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trek 4.7 2010 with about 3000 k's on it for $1000 - good deal yeah?
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what gear is it running?

If it is same as this and in good knick then yes not a bad deal.

http://www.bikeexchange.com.au/dbima...white_2010.jpg

However Carbon frames should be checked over carefully for any signs of cracks etc. Trek will only warrant the original owner should something happen to it.
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ultegra gear, dude is bringing it into work on Friday so I can take it for a spin over the weekend
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what haks said... but Ultergra gear for 1K isn't a bad deal. check the rear cassette carefully for worn or chipped gears. Rear derailleur for knocks and ideally jump on a trainer to see what the gear shifts are like.

not sure how it would go down with a workmate, but when helping a mate buy a bike i suggested the get it serviced and add the price of the standard service to the price and any replacement parts / additional work the seller pays for for... seems like a fair trade.

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Yeah getting it serviced/checked over for any issue is a good idea. However if you know the seller well and they are genuine plus will still be dealing with them in the future (i.e. work) then you may get away with out an independent eye looking over it.
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given a relaxation of helmet laws, would any of you ride without helmets? i'd always use one on my road bike, but it would be nice to be able to use the city cycle in brisbane without one. you can stay off the road if you want to, and even the roads you would ride on there's generally bike lanes and it's only a 50 zone anyway. you can ride from south bank all the way around the river to eagle farm and stuff without going anywhere near a road so mandatory helmets seem pretty stupid.

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I've decided I want a cyclocross bike. Chunkier tires for off road riding.

Anyone looking for a commuter/utility bike that will go fast on the road (much faster than a mtb bike with slicks) but is designed for dirt/gravel road use also, I reckon they are better than so called "hybrid" bikes.
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Having been hit by a car, which resulted in my head (helmet) hitting the bitumen, I would say that I would still wear a helmet if I was riding on the road.

I agree about the CityCycle though. I would (and have) ridden without a helmet riding along on those on bikepaths.

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@ Balls deep, not sure why you posted that graphic but wherever those stats come from (link?) they are pretty misleading.


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Bike helmet laws saving lives; researchers
Thursday, 23 June 2011 Lexi Metherell
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A group of Australian academics believe they have finally answered the question of whether bicycle helmets reduce head injuries.

Researchers say they have evidence which shows mandatory helmet laws in New South Wales have worked, slashing head injuries by almost one third.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articl...23/3251338.htm


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Agreed with Rancho: helmets when on road should be mandatory, helmets when on footpath should not. Easy to police.
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@ Balls deep, not sure why you posted that graphic but wherever those stats come from (link?) they are pretty misleading.

I feel naked when I get on my bike without a helmet these days

you also need to consider the infrastructure, culture and bike usage in the various countries. i've not been to the Netherlands, but considering the infrastructure of some cities that are very bike friendly I am not surprised by the figure even if it's actually accurate (which i doubt).

Also culture plays a big part, being actively run off the road by truck drivers in sydney I'm sure this is city based not universal. Riding in Adelaide is chalk and cheese, everyone gives you room, people actually look when turning left on a bike lane, and someone who opened a car door near me actually apologised (as opposed to telling me to get of the f*cking road as in Sydney) and finally usage, if the majority of users are just commuting at 15km/hr in dedicated lanes/paths as opposed to shared roads at avg +30kph then there's much higher risk of severe injury given any fall.

I could go on for a long time on this subject, but most of what I've researched/written in the past in terms of transport development for cities is CiC.

I'm the same, I can't get on a bike without feeling nervous if I'm helmet-less, same goes with skiing now actually and I've only been wearing a helmet for 5 years.

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also the traffic laws play at part, in the Netherlands a car driver is basically at fault if they hit a cyclist no matter how it was caused, well at least that's what the Dutch told me and lets be honest who can trust the Dutch? I lived in the Netherlands for a year and rode everywhere and swore I would do the same when I got back to Sydney, lasted about 2 weeks I reckon.
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what haks said... but Ultergra gear for 1K isn't a bad deal. check the rear cassette carefully for worn or chipped gears. Rear derailleur for knocks and ideally jump on a trainer to see what the gear shifts are like.

not sure how it would go down with a workmate, but when helping a mate buy a bike i suggested the get it serviced and add the price of the standard service to the price and any replacement parts / additional work the seller pays for for... seems like a fair trade.

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Yeah getting it serviced/checked over for any issue is a good idea. However if you know the seller well and they are genuine plus will still be dealing with them in the future (i.e. work) then you may get away with out an independent eye looking over it.

Missed these comments cheers, getting the bike for a test ride tomorrow. Going to take it to my mate who has been servicing bikes since 98, the guy is some kind of genius
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trek 4.7 2010 with about 3000 k's on it for $1000 - good deal yeah?

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I've scored one of these (http://www.mtbr.com/cat/bikes/bike-f...384_95crx.aspx) off a mate in Sydney for $300. Just got to get it couriered down to Melbourne - has anyone used or can recommend an interstate courier for pushies? Thanks.
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Missed these comments cheers, getting the bike for a test ride tomorrow. Going to take it to my mate who has been servicing bikes since 98, the guy is some kind of genius

Are you sure he hasn't been servicing bikes since '95?
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well, according to dictionary.com
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Who will be the first from the GB to complain they had no help from anyone else? Loving seeing plans fall to pieces sometimes hahaha. They even built Wiggo, Froome & Cav special aero bikes just for the race. Aero don't mean much if you are a minute behind

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@ Balls deep, not sure why you posted that graphic but wherever those stats come from (link?) they are pretty misleading.

I feel naked when I get on my bike without a helmet these days

The article claims that head injuries were reduced by about 29% following the introduction of helmet laws. However, this ignores that "...the RTA, VicRoads and WA Transport all reported 30-40% reductions in cycling immediately after the introduction of helmet laws", (source:http://helmetfreedom.org/572/how-muc...-laws-make-us/)

I presume the 29% figure refers to a reduction in the rate of head injuries, rather than an absolute reduction, because if that were the case, it wouldn't even represent a pro - rata reduction in head injuries.

I would also suggest you read this article: http://helmetfreedom.org/helmet-research/ - cycling is made safer the more people do it (safety in numbers approach), therefore, the reduction in cyclists caused by helmet laws could potentially have the side effect of reducing cyclist safety. Also see this article re. participation http://theconversation.edu.au/make-h...australia-4578

I wear a helmet when I'm road cycling and would continue to do so regardless of the law, but in light of the at best conflicting evidence as to their overall efficacy, I don't believe the government should mandate that helmet use be compulsory. Popping down to the shops for some milk without a helmet just isn't that dangerous, ultimately.

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Popping down to the shops for some milk without a helmet just isn't that dangerous, ultimately.


What if the milk has permeate in it?

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Haks, who is that? Surely can't be an Olympic rider?!? (although I'm guessing it is and it's a German team member)

I think it's Robert Forstemann.... Rene Enders is also ridiculous.






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The article claims that head injuries were reduced by about 29% following the introduction of helmet laws. However, this ignores that "...the RTA, VicRoads and WA Transport all reported 30-40% reductions in cycling immediately after the introduction of helmet laws", (source:http://helmetfreedom.org/572/how-muc...-laws-make-us/)

I presume the 29% figure refers to a reduction in the rate of head injuries, rather than an absolute reduction, because if that were the case, it wouldn't even represent a pro - rata reduction in head injuries.

I would also suggest you read this article: http://helmetfreedom.org/helmet-research/ - cycling is made safer the more people do it (safety in numbers approach), therefore, the reduction in cyclists caused by helmet laws could potentially have the side effect of reducing cyclist safety. Also see this article re. participation http://theconversation.edu.au/make-h...australia-4578

I wear a helmet when I'm road cycling and would continue to do so regardless of the law, but in light of the at best conflicting evidence as to their overall efficacy, I don't believe the government should mandate that helmet use be compulsory. Popping down to the shops for some milk without a helmet just isn't that dangerous, ultimately.

My point is only that helmets reduce the risk of head injury and hence that graphic that balls deep posted is misleading because it might make people think that it is actually safer to not wear a helmet. The helmetfreedom.org site is much more informative because it clearly acknowledges the fact that "helmets are good" whereas mandatory helmet laws have unintended negative consequences from a population health perspective.

I reckon most people would say that safety is the main reason they don't commute to work in Sydney rather than mandatory helmet law. It seems sort of paradoxical that anyone who is concerned about safety first would suddenly start riding to work if they didn't need to wear a helmet.
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