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Seen a large number of Norwegians defending it on twitter. Was not expecting that!
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I'm not saying it should have been, but if given the option of releasing him after 21 years (if it was mandatory to release) or putting him in a mental hospital... the picture gets cloudy.



Bergs, what is "it", him killing them or the sentence?

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brevik got what he wanted, it was declared perfectly sane to kill kids of a particular political persuasion because their party is allegedly flooding your country with immigrants

But it's the opposite of what the worlds racist right wanted because now they can't write him off as being insane but have to face the fact that their entire far right movement has set this bar for human behaviour.
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Seen a large number of Norwegians defending it on twitter. Was not expecting that!

Not surprising at all, he got the maximum sentence, and most Norwegians want to see him in jail rather than be put in a mental institution.

Norwegians in general are very reasonable, rational people, and I'd suggest they're less likely to react in a knee-jerk manner to the sentence than Australians would.


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I'm not saying it should have been, but if given the option of releasing him after 21 years (if it was mandatory to release) or putting him in a mental hospital... the picture gets cloudy.

But as has been noted from the start, he can in fact be imprisoned indefinitely, so I'm not sure why it's even being discussed.

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Norwegians in general are very reasonable, rational people, and I'd suggest they're less likely to react in a knee-jerk manner to the sentence than Australians would.

Generalisations don't offer much in the way of anything.
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Seen a large number of Norwegians defending it on twitter. Was not expecting that!

Why not? It's the maximum sentence allowable under their legal system, which also provides for indefinite detention should he pose a danger to society. As spacemonkey says, the integrity of the legal system is more important than achieving this one particular outcome (especially when it could potentially set a rather dangerous precedent).

Likewise I will defend life sentences given in Australia to advocates of capital punishment.

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As to Brevik's sanity, if he was a Muslim who was being convicted of terrorism his sanity wouldn't even be questioned, it's only because he's white and Christian that people seem reluctant to accept that his actions were carried out in sanity. And while his beliefs are fucked up the guy is definitely rational and fit to answer for his actions.

I tend to agree.

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The sentence is the maximum allowable

also - the sentence can be extended indefinitely.

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Most intersting is that the Norwegian court in essence has determined that psychopathy is not a mental health disease.
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Generalisations don't offer much in the way of anything.

Disagree, they offer a fair bit when explaining something like the majority of responses from a particular group on twitter.
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Most intersting is that the Norwegian court in essence has determined that psychopathy is not a mental health disease.

I think the question is not whether he's sick, but whether he is sufficiently rational to be held accountable for his actions. I'd contend that he's a sociopath, but a rational one.
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