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Geezah · 02-Oct-12, 02:11pm

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Originally Posted by IHAVENEWLEGS

Was the role to play in the twos?

He would've left the magoos far earlier if a) his attitude to forward pressure was better earlier in the season, and b) once he'd rectified his attitude the team was in winning form so couldn't break in.

Horse said the players told Morton earlier in the season that they didn't trust him to make the effort for forward pressure, once he had changed his attitude and showed he was willing to give that effort, the players themselves told Horse they wanted him in the team. But if a team is winning and playing well collectively sometimes good players can't get in.

IHAVENEWLEGS · 02-Oct-12, 02:17pm

Had one game this year where he had more than ten disposals.

Average player is average.

If they could do a deal that involved Morton to get Tippett they would do it in a heartbeat, Adelaide wouldn't take Morton though.

Derelict · 02-Oct-12, 02:27pm

He kicked two important goals in both the qualifying final and the grand final. Why does it matter if he didn't get above 10 touches? He's a forward. Any club would take a forward that only gets 6 kicks a game if they were all goals for example.

He dominated the twos, and with the right work this pre season he could kick 50+ goals next year.

Geezah · 02-Oct-12, 02:29pm

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Originally Posted by IHAVENEWLEGS

Had one game this year where he had more than ten disposals.

Average player is average.

I'm not saying he's a great player by any means, but then the Swans (in fact most teams) don't have too many great players. It's about playing a role though, and he played his role really well in the finals: if he wasn't effecting tackles he was putting pressure on the opposition's defence which rushed their disposal and he kicked a few goals as well.

And very few forwards get a heap of possessions. Possession stats aren't a good measurement for forwards.

I can only go on what I've seen of him. And I've only seen what he has done in the Swans first team. And in that respect, he was a really good player for us in the finals. Maybe he is average and the finals were the exception that prove the rule, but if he plays like that for the Swans on a regular basis then he will be a good player for us.

IHAVENEWLEGS · 02-Oct-12, 02:29pm

hammm · 02-Oct-12, 02:52pm

what are you laughing at?

IHAVENEWLEGS · 02-Oct-12, 03:02pm

Sorry was aimed at Derps 50 goal statement and Mitch Morton killing it in the NEAFL.

Derelict · 02-Oct-12, 03:07pm

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Originally Posted by IHAVENEWLEGS

Sorry was aimed at Derps 50 goal statement and Mitch Morton killing it in the NEAFL.

He kicked 41 goals with Richmond. There's no reason he can't do better with the Swans potent midfield delivering to him.

IHAVENEWLEGS · 02-Oct-12, 03:08pm

4 years a go. He ain't what he used to be mate. If he was he would be playing every week and not losing to queenbeyan.

gravyishot · 02-Oct-12, 03:11pm

Morton's every chance to be the new Shane Ellen.

Geezah · 02-Oct-12, 03:11pm

Yeah, can't see him kicking 50+ for us. 30+ is doable though, and would be handy.

Geezah · 02-Oct-12, 03:20pm

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Originally Posted by gravyishot

Morton's every chance to be the new Shane Ellen.

Depends on what his application is from here. If he thinks he's done it all now and can't be bothered then there is a very big possibility I will have to Wiki him to remember who he was, just like I had to then for Ellen.

JustinJ · 02-Oct-12, 03:41pm

Can't believe we've gone all year without anyone mentioning about how hot are the Swans female support staff on the boundary line. There's a blonde one with a Scottish accent - she's the team nutritionist, another blonde but with long hair - she's mainly doing the rub-downs on the players' legs with the help of a brunette.

VanBuurenisGod · 02-Oct-12, 04:05pm

I'm sure that's not all she's doing...

Ewwwwwwww

/ford fairlane

CircusMidget · 02-Oct-12, 05:30pm

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Originally Posted by JustinJ

Can't believe we've gone all year without anyone mentioning about how hot are the Swans female support staff on the boundary line. There's a blonde one with a Scottish accent - she's the team nutritionist, another blonde but with long hair - she's mainly doing the rub-downs on the players' legs with the help of a brunette.

I googled but this is all I could find

JustinJ · 02-Oct-12, 07:05pm

Lorraine Cullen - Swans dietician

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/n...3/default.aspx

Dat Scottish accent.

Probably would get a screengrab of the other two once I get a copy of the GF.

base615 · 02-Oct-12, 08:42pm

^ She looks like this:

Geezah · 02-Oct-12, 08:44pm

For the Swans fans:

AFL 360, on Fox Footy, did an amazing montage of the Grand Final using a couple of great bits of music (one of which is below - I don't know what the other one was), some of the key moments, and overdubbed with commentary from all the TV and radio broadcasters.

It really is awesome, well worth having a look if you have Foxtel (I'm sure they'll replay it over the next few days), but unfortunately I have NFI how to capture and embed it and it doesn't seem to be on the Fox Footy website.

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YouTube

edit: The montage is shown near the start of the show (AFL 360).

Astro-Boy · 02-Oct-12, 08:44pm

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Originally Posted by base615

^ She looks like this:

http://craiggarbutt.com/forumimages/ironmaiden.jpg

Harsh.

IHAVENEWLEGS · 02-Oct-12, 08:44pm

Geezah · 02-Oct-12, 09:00pm

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Originally Posted by Astro-Boy

Harsh.

Well fucking harsh. I think she's cute.

JustinJ · 02-Oct-12, 09:03pm

+1 pretty fucking harsh.

airconteka · 02-Oct-12, 09:06pm

Can i play with Lorraine?

Geezah · 02-Oct-12, 09:43pm

Some good egg has posted that montage online now.

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AFL 360 - Grand Final 2012 Montage - YouTube

Pancho · 02-Oct-12, 09:57pm

Dennis' call of Jetta vs Rioli gives me goosebumps.

JustinJ · 02-Oct-12, 10:07pm

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Originally Posted by Geezah

Some good egg has posted that montage online now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psOoK...ature=youtu.be

That is fantastic.

I think the track before that M83 track is done by this music production company called Two Steps From Hell - they make soundtracks for movie trailers and stuff that have an 'epicness' feel to them. I'll have a dig.

Edit: found it.

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YouTube

Not sure on what's the track in the first 15s though.

Geezah · 02-Oct-12, 10:15pm

That's them. Cheers dude. They seem to be on the same wavelength as ES Posthumus (particularly a song called Nara).

JustinJ · 02-Oct-12, 10:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pancho

Dennis' call of Jetta vs Rioli gives me goosebumps.

Top comment on the BigPondAFL youtube post of that moment: "Thank god Cometti got that call and not BT...".

Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geezah

That's them. Cheers dude. They seem to be on the same wavelength as ES Posthumus (particularly a song called Nara).

No probs. I've been on the hunt for a track id from one of OneHD's sporting montages circa late-2010 and early 2011 which sounded like it was from Two Steps From Hell. No joy so far, but ES Posthumus is a new lead.

Derelict · 03-Oct-12, 08:06am

Pretty awesome montage

was there even any Bruce in it?

JustinJ · 03-Oct-12, 01:10pm

AFL site's montage using different/unseen footage: http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76...8/Default.aspx

Geezah · 03-Oct-12, 01:55pm

Some really interesting angles. I can see why they aren't used while broadcasting the game live because I'd imagine if they switched in real time it would be a bit spatially confusing for the viewer but I wouldn't mind seeing replays use these alternative POVs if the option is there.

YossarianIsSane · 03-Oct-12, 03:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geezah

Some really interesting angles. I can see why they aren't used while broadcasting the game live because I'd imagine if they switched in real time it would be a bit spatially confusing for the viewer but I wouldn't mind seeing replays use these alternative POVs if the option is there.

It would be like a a cricket broadcast, when they forget to go back to the regular view for a delivery and no one knows what the fuck just happened.

Aydo · 03-Oct-12, 09:37pm

Such an awkward kick by Malceski! Great goal though. And what was Young doing falling over in the goalsquare... jesus!

Thanks for posting that, needed some reminding of some of the key events.

Derelict · 03-Oct-12, 10:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aydo

Such an awkward kick by Malceski! Great goal though. And what was Young doing falling over in the goalsquare... jesus!

Thanks for posting that, needed some reminding of some of the key events.

Hawks fans been giving it to poor Young. To be fair he did get a little push from Kizza to help him along.

cozza147 · 04-Oct-12, 07:18pm

I never thought i would say this but i feel a tad sorry for Port Adelaide

Mass exodus atm. Such a bad month and going to be a tough year

Aydo · 05-Oct-12, 09:38am

Yep, and they can't even get a coach.

JustinJ · 05-Oct-12, 10:59am

Jesse White given the greenlight for a trade: http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/s...004-27271.html

People keep on talking up Tommy Walsh but of the games I've seen him play in the AFL he has had very minimal impact and he doesn't look to be all that big.

VanBuurenisGod · 05-Oct-12, 11:07am

wellingham has spoken to the West Coast website about coming across, and Collingwood werent even aware of it

Derelict · 05-Oct-12, 11:08am

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Originally Posted by JustinJ

Jesse White given the greenlight for a trade: http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/s...004-27271.html

People keep on talking up Tommy Walsh but of the games I've seen him play in the AFL he has had very minimal impact and he doesn't look to be all that big.

Walsh was useless when I saw him play.

Good news on Jesse White. I've always been a fan of him so it's a shame to see him sitting out. Hopefully he can be part of a deal to get Tippett to sydney.

Pancho · 05-Oct-12, 01:28pm

Anyone know what the deal is with this mini draft ? What ? Why ? Who ?

Astro-Boy · 05-Oct-12, 01:28pm

Oi, Justin asks the questions around here, pal. Don't be muscling in on his turf.

Pancho · 05-Oct-12, 01:30pm

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Originally Posted by VanBuurenisGod

wellingham has spoken to the West Coast website about coming across, and Collingwood werent even aware of it

Its a weird one. I thought he would want to stay. Always got the impression he liked being in Melbourne and from what other journos has to say.

Pick 17 I think is reasonably fair. Whether we get it or not remains to be seen. Eddie has come out swinging as per usual.

JustinJ · 05-Oct-12, 01:33pm

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Originally Posted by Astro-Boy

Oi, Justin asks the questions around here, pal. Don't be muscling in on his turf.

But why?

cozza147 · 05-Oct-12, 07:43pm

Tom Swift has quit football. Happy Days!

Aydo · 05-Oct-12, 09:24pm

Jimmy will be shattered. I think I recall him comparing Swift to a young C. Judd a few years ago...

gravyishot · 05-Oct-12, 11:45pm

Swift was the most talented kid I've ever seen. Played against my brother's 18 year old squad as a 15 year old and tore them apart. Was reasonably amazing in his first year at AFL level too.

West Coast have stuffed up quite a few top 25 draft picks over the past five years (Notte, Swift, Ebert, Stevens, Weedon).

mattpolo8 · 06-Oct-12, 02:23am

hawthorn will be cheering if wellingham goes to west coast. there's buddy's housemate gone. wellingham is the one that gets buddy into trouble.

TranceArt · 06-Oct-12, 11:35am

Tippett. Sydney. Accept please

IHAVENEWLEGS · 06-Oct-12, 11:35am

So Tippett wants to go to the Swans, Now who goes?

chegoon · 06-Oct-12, 11:39am

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Originally Posted by mattpolo8

hawthorn will be cheering if wellingham goes to west coast. there's buddy's housemate gone. wellingham is the one that gets buddy into trouble.

lie. buddy was shelving googs long before wellingham was around

Geezah +	02-Oct-12, 02:11pm #3351 Raaaaaaaaaaaaarrghh
Joined Sep '03 Times thanked < 943 Posts 10,444	Quote: Originally Posted by IHAVENEWLEGS Was the role to play in the twos? He would've left the magoos far earlier if a) his attitude to forward pressure was better earlier in the season, and b) once he'd rectified his attitude the team was in winning form so couldn't break in. Horse said the players told Morton earlier in the season that they didn't trust him to make the effort for forward pressure, once he had changed his attitude and showed he was willing to give that effort, the players themselves told Horse they wanted him in the team. But if a team is winning and playing well collectively sometimes good players can't get in. Avatar artist: Dain Fagerholm

IHAVENEWLEGS +	02-Oct-12, 02:17pm #3352 Registered User
Joined Sep '11 Times thanked < 2,228 Posts 7,522	Had one game this year where he had more than ten disposals. Average player is average. If they could do a deal that involved Morton to get Tippett they would do it in a heartbeat, Adelaide wouldn't take Morton though. Last edited by IHAVENEWLEGS: 02-Oct-12 at 02:22pm

Derelict +	02-Oct-12, 02:27pm #3353 "Unconceivable, unbelievable Grammar like a hammer information receivable Sent by the Lord, here and abroad with words well adored now they can't be ignored!
Joined Oct '08 Times thanked < 3,447 Posts 20,085	He kicked two important goals in both the qualifying final and the grand final. Why does it matter if he didn't get above 10 touches? He's a forward. Any club would take a forward that only gets 6 kicks a game if they were all goals for example. He dominated the twos, and with the right work this pre season he could kick 50+ goals next year.

Geezah +	02-Oct-12, 02:29pm #3354 Raaaaaaaaaaaaarrghh
Joined Sep '03 Times thanked < 943 Posts 10,444	Quote: Originally Posted by IHAVENEWLEGS Had one game this year where he had more than ten disposals. Average player is average. I'm not saying he's a great player by any means, but then the Swans (in fact most teams) don't have too many great players. It's about playing a role though, and he played his role really well in the finals: if he wasn't effecting tackles he was putting pressure on the opposition's defence which rushed their disposal and he kicked a few goals as well. And very few forwards get a heap of possessions. Possession stats aren't a good measurement for forwards. I can only go on what I've seen of him. And I've only seen what he has done in the Swans first team. And in that respect, he was a really good player for us in the finals. Maybe he is average and the finals were the exception that prove the rule, but if he plays like that for the Swans on a regular basis then he will be a good player for us. Avatar artist: Dain Fagerholm

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Joined Sep '11 Times thanked < 2,228 Posts 7,522	Sorry was aimed at Derps 50 goal statement and Mitch Morton killing it in the NEAFL.

Derelict +	02-Oct-12, 03:07pm #3358 "Unconceivable, unbelievable Grammar like a hammer information receivable Sent by the Lord, here and abroad with words well adored now they can't be ignored!
Joined Oct '08 Times thanked < 3,447 Posts 20,085	Quote: Originally Posted by IHAVENEWLEGS Sorry was aimed at Derps 50 goal statement and Mitch Morton killing it in the NEAFL. He kicked 41 goals with Richmond. There's no reason he can't do better with the Swans potent midfield delivering to him.

IHAVENEWLEGS +	02-Oct-12, 03:08pm #3359 Registered User
Joined Sep '11 Times thanked < 2,228 Posts 7,522	4 years a go. He ain't what he used to be mate. If he was he would be playing every week and not losing to queenbeyan.

gravyishot +	02-Oct-12, 03:11pm #3360 this stupid facebook bar at the bottom is for ****s
Joined Mar '06 Times thanked < 508 Posts 7,186	Morton's every chance to be the new Shane Ellen.

Geezah +	02-Oct-12, 03:11pm #3361 Raaaaaaaaaaaaarrghh
Joined Sep '03 Times thanked < 943 Posts 10,444	Yeah, can't see him kicking 50+ for us. 30+ is doable though, and would be handy. Avatar artist: Dain Fagerholm

Geezah +	02-Oct-12, 03:20pm #3362 Raaaaaaaaaaaaarrghh
Joined Sep '03 Times thanked < 943 Posts 10,444	Quote: Originally Posted by gravyishot Morton's every chance to be the new Shane Ellen. Depends on what his application is from here. If he thinks he's done it all now and can't be bothered then there is a very big possibility I will have to Wiki him to remember who he was, just like I had to then for Ellen. Avatar artist: Dain Fagerholm

JustinJ +	02-Oct-12, 03:41pm #3363 It was a good speech. Didn't want to interrupt.
Joined Mar '04 Times thanked < 3,003 Posts 9,572	Can't believe we've gone all year without anyone mentioning about how hot are the Swans female support staff on the boundary line. There's a blonde one with a Scottish accent - she's the team nutritionist, another blonde but with long hair - she's mainly doing the rub-downs on the players' legs with the help of a brunette. Last edited by JustinJ: 02-Oct-12 at 03:51pm
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VanBuurenisGod +	02-Oct-12, 04:05pm #3364 ding ding ding ding...
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CircusMidget +	02-Oct-12, 05:30pm #3365 De plane! De plane!
Joined Jan '09 Times thanked < 871 Posts 3,529	Quote: Originally Posted by JustinJ Can't believe we've gone all year without anyone mentioning about how hot are the Swans female support staff on the boundary line. There's a blonde one with a Scottish accent - she's the team nutritionist, another blonde but with long hair - she's mainly doing the rub-downs on the players' legs with the help of a brunette. I googled but this is all I could find

JustinJ +	02-Oct-12, 07:05pm #3366 It was a good speech. Didn't want to interrupt.
Joined Mar '04 Times thanked < 3,003 Posts 9,572	Lorraine Cullen - Swans dietician http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/n...3/default.aspx Dat Scottish accent. Probably would get a screengrab of the other two once I get a copy of the GF.

base615 +	02-Oct-12, 08:42pm #3367 COYS!
Joined Jan '07 Times thanked < 1,393 Posts 5,761	^ She looks like this: Quote: Originally Posted by RaVeR_SpIkE all i can say is fuck you ref you fuckhead

Astro-Boy +	02-Oct-12, 08:44pm #3369 LOOK AT MY BALD COCK. LOOK AT IT.
Joined Oct '03 Times thanked < 14,080 Posts 32,538	Quote: Originally Posted by base615 ^ She looks like this: http://craiggarbutt.com/forumimages/ironmaiden.jpg Harsh.

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Geezah +	02-Oct-12, 09:00pm #3371 Raaaaaaaaaaaaarrghh
Joined Sep '03 Times thanked < 943 Posts 10,444	Quote: Originally Posted by Astro-Boy Harsh. Well fucking harsh. I think she's cute. Avatar artist: Dain Fagerholm
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JustinJ +	02-Oct-12, 09:03pm #3372 It was a good speech. Didn't want to interrupt.
Joined Mar '04 Times thanked < 3,003 Posts 9,572	+1 pretty fucking harsh.
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Pancho +	02-Oct-12, 09:57pm #3375 boom.
Joined Mar '06 Times thanked < 162 Posts 12,225	Dennis' call of Jetta vs Rioli gives me goosebumps. Quote: Originally Posted by write my name No offense brain surgeon - but what hard facts do you have that cousins has ever done a drug? Quote: Originally Posted by Anselm Pies genuinely no good this year
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Geezah +	02-Oct-12, 10:15pm #3377 Raaaaaaaaaaaaarrghh
Joined Sep '03 Times thanked < 943 Posts 10,444	That's them. Cheers dude. They seem to be on the same wavelength as ES Posthumus (particularly a song called Nara). Avatar artist: Dain Fagerholm

JustinJ +	02-Oct-12, 10:20pm #3378 It was a good speech. Didn't want to interrupt.
Joined Mar '04 Times thanked < 3,003 Posts 9,572	Quote: Originally Posted by Pancho Dennis' call of Jetta vs Rioli gives me goosebumps. Top comment on the BigPondAFL youtube post of that moment: "Thank god Cometti got that call and not BT...". Yes. Quote: Originally Posted by Geezah That's them. Cheers dude. They seem to be on the same wavelength as ES Posthumus (particularly a song called Nara). No probs. I've been on the hunt for a track id from one of OneHD's sporting montages circa late-2010 and early 2011 which sounded like it was from Two Steps From Hell. No joy so far, but ES Posthumus is a new lead. Last edited by JustinJ: 02-Oct-12 at 10:30pm

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Derelict +	03-Oct-12, 08:06am #3379 "Unconceivable, unbelievable Grammar like a hammer information receivable Sent by the Lord, here and abroad with words well adored now they can't be ignored!
Joined Oct '08 Times thanked < 3,447 Posts 20,085	Pretty awesome montage was there even any Bruce in it?

JustinJ +	03-Oct-12, 01:10pm #3380 It was a good speech. Didn't want to interrupt.
Joined Mar '04 Times thanked < 3,003 Posts 9,572	AFL site's montage using different/unseen footage: http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76...8/Default.aspx Last edited by JustinJ: 03-Oct-12 at 10:53pm Reason: Fixed the link
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Geezah +	03-Oct-12, 01:55pm #3381 Raaaaaaaaaaaaarrghh
Joined Sep '03 Times thanked < 943 Posts 10,444	Some really interesting angles. I can see why they aren't used while broadcasting the game live because I'd imagine if they switched in real time it would be a bit spatially confusing for the viewer but I wouldn't mind seeing replays use these alternative POVs if the option is there. Avatar artist: Dain Fagerholm

YossarianIsSane +	03-Oct-12, 03:22pm #3382 Registered User
Joined Nov '05 Times thanked < 182 Posts 1,404	Quote: Originally Posted by Geezah Some really interesting angles. I can see why they aren't used while broadcasting the game live because I'd imagine if they switched in real time it would be a bit spatially confusing for the viewer but I wouldn't mind seeing replays use these alternative POVs if the option is there. It would be like a a cricket broadcast, when they forget to go back to the regular view for a delivery and no one knows what the fuck just happened. Quote: Originally Posted by B_e_de It's the same as going out on a busy street and looking at the people around you, most of them are fgts.

Aydo +	03-Oct-12, 09:37pm #3383 play from your fucking heart
Joined Feb '06 Times thanked < 42 Posts 3,890	Such an awkward kick by Malceski! Great goal though. And what was Young doing falling over in the goalsquare... jesus! Thanks for posting that, needed some reminding of some of the key events.

Derelict +	03-Oct-12, 10:00pm #3384 "Unconceivable, unbelievable Grammar like a hammer information receivable Sent by the Lord, here and abroad with words well adored now they can't be ignored!
Joined Oct '08 Times thanked < 3,447 Posts 20,085	Quote: Originally Posted by Aydo Such an awkward kick by Malceski! Great goal though. And what was Young doing falling over in the goalsquare... jesus! Thanks for posting that, needed some reminding of some of the key events. Hawks fans been giving it to poor Young. To be fair he did get a little push from Kizza to help him along.

cozza147 +	04-Oct-12, 07:18pm #3385 Registered User
Joined Mar '08 Times thanked < 40 Posts 1,144	I never thought i would say this but i feel a tad sorry for Port Adelaide Mass exodus atm. Such a bad month and going to be a tough year

Aydo +	05-Oct-12, 09:38am #3386 play from your fucking heart
Joined Feb '06 Times thanked < 42 Posts 3,890	Yep, and they can't even get a coach.

JustinJ +	05-Oct-12, 10:59am #3387 It was a good speech. Didn't want to interrupt.
Joined Mar '04 Times thanked < 3,003 Posts 9,572	Jesse White given the greenlight for a trade: http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/s...004-27271.html People keep on talking up Tommy Walsh but of the games I've seen him play in the AFL he has had very minimal impact and he doesn't look to be all that big.

VanBuurenisGod +	05-Oct-12, 11:07am #3388 ding ding ding ding...
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