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fits a gtx690 so it will definitely fit a gtx670.

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Would ya'll recommend another cooler just to be safe?
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safe about what? if you're going to be running stock speeds you should have no problem.
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Fuck this big box shit, I'm going mini.

Prodigy, you will be mine.
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Would ya'll recommend another cooler just to be safe?

From the look of that pic rancho posted, that's sporting a Hyper 212 cooler? $35 bucks if your terribly worried about cooling.
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That picture stirs feelings in me.
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Fuck this big box shit, I'm going mini.

Prodigy, you will be mine.

if i tried to house my shit in a mini it would probably combust
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Me too *bites lip*
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if i tried to house my shit in a mini it would probably combust

True, no sli is a factor but buying a bigger/better card is another aspect.

Really turned on by the fact that I could move the pc between the lounge and computer dungeon easier.
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I wonder what temp that 690 runs at and if they oc'd.

I just have another 42inch in my room and run a second hdmi cable for consoley type games like tomb raider.

Steam big picture is actually really good too.
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Reading posts about some prodigy builds with 690's and they are hitting 80 degrees under full load :O
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Is that oc'd though?
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reading a thread on OCAU about a dude that built one, and had to water cool cause he was saying he was getting 100 degrees on 2nd cpu on air.

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh....php?t=1055799

Didn't read it very thoroughly though
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Two massive rads and he's still copping those temps? Jrods cousin must of built it.
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Mini ITX case would have needed too many compromises, have gone back to a mid sized case. Build specifications below.

Antec One Gaming Case
G.Skill Ares F3-1866C9D-8GAB 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3
Intel Core i7 3770
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H-WB WIFI Motherboard
EVGA GeForce GTX 670 Superclocked+ 4GB
Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB SSD Retail Box
Western Digital WD Green 1TB WD10EZRX
Thermaltake ToughPower XT 775W
Lite-On IHES312 12X Blu-Ray DVD Combo Drive
Microsoft Windows 8 Pro 64bit OEM
Arctic Cooling Freezer i30 CPU Cooler

Total: $1,849.00 via PCCG

Will be building this over the long weekend. Derp.
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Compromises? How so? Apart from the motherboard all your choices would work in mini itx
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what are mini itx bus speeds & shit like? triPle channel ram & all that? don't think so
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LOL you know those cars with the giant air intake sticking out?

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I bet it's over compensating for the Intel Celeron underneath it
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Great cooler though, I have one ^^
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cool! (npi)

i read nice things about the noctua coolers. i had my eye on the NH-L9i but i have a feeling it would still be too big for my case.
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what are mini itx bus speeds & shit like? triPle channel ram & all that? don't think so

Not sure if serious.
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Not sure if serious.

was a genuine question. i've never actually looked into mini itx much other than the intel kit i got for my htpc. multi-channel does make a difference when gaming. doesn't matter how fast buses are if you don't have a pipe fat enough to get it all through
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Most (all) mini itx boards run dual channel, so yeah it'll be fine.
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I was recently mulling over a Mini-ITX build. Due to lack of common sense, I'm pretty keen on the Silverstone FT03S rubbish bin/case.

Silverstone FT03S-MINI Silver Mini-ITX Case $145
ASUS P8H77-I Mini ITX Motherboard 115
i5 3570k 239
8GB Corsair® Vengeance™ DDR3-1600 1.5V (2x4GB)
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Superclocked $569
Antec KUHLER H2O 620 CPU Cooler $79
Slot loading DVD (ie: SilverStone Slim SOD02)
SilverStone SST-ST45SF 450W

Basically a rip-off of this: https://www.maingear.com/custom/desk...enza/index.php

Guessing it would be a bit of a **** to build though.

edit: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/MWkw

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I wouldn't call the prodigy a mini...it's a good looking box, but it's not small.

I'll open mine up soon, remove the dust that's collected and get a pic and specs up.
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Does your case have the honeycomb mesh front?
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Great cooler though, I have one ^^

me too. so god damn quiet.

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I got bored and stuck 32GB ram in my home pc. Because racecar. (or virtual machines)
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VMs do tend to chew a bit of ram
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Does your case have the honeycomb mesh front?

nope, it's the solid front.
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BitFenix case does look pretty nice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiOm3lB7EQw
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Here's the case, with a 3.5 ext hard drive next to it for size comparison.



On the inside...

Asus P8Z77-I DELUXE
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
2 x 8GB PC3-10700
1 x 128GB SSD OS
2 x 2TB 7.2K Storage
LG BH14NS40 Blu-ray Writer

Slightly wrong thread for it, as it's used for a htpc, not gaming...until i find a decent copy of wolfenstein 3d.
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too lay to make my own thread...


so i'm thinking of buying an Alienware X51, but i see that teh SSD doesn't come in Oz so I was wondering, would it make sense to just buy a version with crap HDD and buy an SSD seperately and install, can anyone tell me how difficult that would be if possible?

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I had a look at some pictures of the inside of the X51 and some comments around the net. Looks like it can be done, but with some difficulty -

- The X51 case only has 1 hard drive slot. So you can either remove the HDD in there and only have the SSD, or some people suggest you can squeeze the SSD between the HDD and the side of the case, such as dark grey SSD in the top right of this picture. Or you might be able to remove DVD Drive


- There's only 1 SATA power cable powering the original HDD, but you can buy a Y Sata power connector to also power the SSD.

Here's some instructions -
http://en.community.dell.com/owners-.../19450393.aspx

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I followed these steps for the installation:

1. The X51 provides a third unused SATA slot which can be used to connect to the SSD. However, the X51 does not come with an extra SATA power connector so this had to be installed separately. As per a web-site (can't remember the URL) I tapped into the existing mobo molex connector (under the DVD drive) to get the SATA power. In the original configuration the female mobo molex connector supplies power to the 3.5" HD and the DVD drive. You'll need a Y-connector cable (P/N StarTech PYO1LP4SATA on Amazon) which has a male molex on one end, and a female molex and SATA power connector on the other end.

Detach the original 3.5" HD/DVD drive power cable from the mobo female molex connector, connect the male molex connector of the new cable into the mobo molex connector, and finally connect the original 3.5" HD/DVD drive power male molex connector into the female molex connector of the new cable. You'll be left with a SATA power connector that can be used for the SSD.

2. Detach the data SATA connector of the 3.5" HD from the mobo to disable it during installation of the SSD.

3. Use a new SATA data-cable and connect SSD to the extra SATA port on the mobo. Also, connect the SATA power cable to the SSD.

4. Place supplied Alienware Windows CD into DVD drive and ensure SATA mode is set to UEFI in BIOS and boot order is set to UEFI DVD - this can be chosen by pressing F2 during boot-up. Using UEFI mode ensures the Windows will automatically make a 100 MB EFI partition in the SSD along with the OS partition. This will also apparently format the drive with GUID (GPT) partition table which apparently is the "wave of the future" as opposed to MBR partition for SATA legacy mode. There is a lot of debate regarding GPT (new) vs MBR (old and best compatibility) and I believe the 3.5" HD is configure as GPT. I know the original HD has a 300 MB EFI partition along with DELLUTILITY and RECOVERY partition, but you will not get these and copying over these partitions is beyond the scope of this installation.

I also tried installing the OS using the SATA legacy mode (non UEFI) and that also worked fine. In that case Windows did not create a EFI partition.

5. Windows will install and you're fee to install your favourite games. Later you can reconnect the data SATA connector of the 3.5" HD to the mobo so that you can access that drive as well.

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yea definitely going to throw away the 1TB drive(or maybe i can turn it into an external drive ), then just whack the SSD drive in there as the main HDD.

just have to find software to back up the computer to the SSD first right, man i hope i don't break anything probably not too smart trying this with no experience, it's not rocket science though right.
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If you're buying new, what's to back up? Just do a fresh Windows install on the SSD.

That said, I don't think the X51 is a great idea. I can see the appeal, but alarm bells start ringing when people are posting hacks just to add a second drive to the thing. It's a PC. You are supposed to be able to add things without workarounds. What if you want to upgrade the GPU one day - how many models will fit in there? And when the PSU dies, forget getting a cheap replacement from MSY. Dell mobos generally use non-standard connections. Basically, fuck Dell.

What spec are you getting? Cost?
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thanks Gruso

yea the appeal is that it's small, i like the idea of having a small box and understand that GPU will likely be unable to be upgraded, but i can put in a new Hard Drive and changing the Video Card looks easy as pie.
The good thing i think about buying one like this though is it has it's own mod community and some youtube video's showing how to do stuff, i guess that in itself is uncommon with any big computer producer... I doubt you would get a Compaq mod forum and i have seen the inside of one of those.

that would last a couple of years i would hope, specs below;

Processor
3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3770 Processor (3.4GHz, 8MB Cache, with Turbo Boost Technology 2.0)
Operating System
Windows® 7 Home Premium SP1 64 bit (English)
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1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive with Native Command Queuing
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Optical Drive
Slot-Loading Dual Layer Blu-ray Reader (BR-ROM, DVD+-RW, CD-RW)
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you can also build your own for significantly less cost

like that spec ^ ballpark $1200
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ohhh yea, if i could do that in a smaller box then i would for short.

but i think when you say "you could build your own" you are giving me wayyyy too much credit

i could probably brick about $500 worth of components trying, if that is the best way though then maybe i will do that. Can pretty much get those specs for 1200 with SSD if you live in the states.
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I posted a vid on the previous page, the 300quid steam box build. You should watch it.
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ahh thanks Gruso, between that and http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/10/ho...all-gaming-pc/

should be ok.

ok where do i start buying parts?
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yeaah sweet i think i stole that sight from a previous post, ok so i had a look and now i offer up the following opportunity to call me an idiot

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit with SP1 OEM
$99.00
Pioneer DVR-220LBKS Black 24x DVDRW OEM
$25.00
Seasonic G-650 80Plus Gold 650W
$159.00
Corsair CMT8GX3M2A1866C9 8GB (2x4GB) Dominator GT
$99.00
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme PCIe
$65.00
ASRock FM2A85X-ITX Motherboard
$119.00
EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Superclocked
$319.00
Intel Core i5 3570K
$236.00
CoolerMaster GeminII S524 CPU Cooler
$55.00
Silverstone Grandia GD04 USB 3.0 HTPC Case Black
$125.00
Corsair Neutron Series GTX 240GB SSD
$269.00
Sub-total: $1,580.00

I have a 24" HD screen and flash mouse already
Noticed that most poeple don't have sound cards in their machines, is because thw quality these days is good or just don't care?
Also i have no big hard drive figure i can use external to store most shit and just the SSD for games.

Everything else there is just a case of, if the shoe fits i think, will all of the connections add up and fit in that box.

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i still use an Auzen X-Fi but onboard is fine. There's no direct hardware access in windows so it's pretty irrelevant

i can do more audio sources with my card though & the analog dacs are pretty good so it sounds better.

short version: don't waste your money
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might make sense to buy the aftermarket CPU cooler after right?

the Intel comes with one, and since the box is mini might figure to find out how much space i have including clearance for rams on the ITX motherboard?
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yeah. stock cooler will be fine anyway if you're not going to OC
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ok just on $1,450 that's a lot better than the box, now just to be sure i'm not missing anything vital?

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit

Pioneer DVR-220LBKS Black 24x DVDRW OEM

Cable Ties - Pack of 10

Seasonic G-650 80Plus Gold 650W

Corsair CMT8GX3M2A1866C9 8GB (2x4GB) Dominator GT

ASRock FM2A85X-ITX Motherboard

EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Superclocked

Intel Core i5 3570K

Silverstone Grandia GD04 USB 3.0 HTPC Case Black

Corsair Neutron Series GTX 240GB SSD

thanks for your help!


sooo do i need grounding mat and wrist straps or what? guess that's always been my biggest worry, mind you i have wood floors and glass table can't see how any discharge would happen... the opinions on this issue are so split it's rediculous.

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