yep.

So tell me how a cyclist doing 50km/h colliding with a walking pedestrian differs from a car coming close to a cyclist with only a 10km/h speed difference.

Spoiler:

fwiw i don't have an issue with cyclists who obey the road rules and are courteous & ride safely. I ride occasionally myself.
I do have a BIG issue with all the fucking self-entitled cowbows on bicycles who think the law doesn't apply to them and they can do whatever the fuck they want where they want.
Same with drivers - drive sensibly, Be aware of your surroundings & no it's not your fucking road.

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Typically Sydney attitude. Each wanker cyclist still represents a car off the road and for every dangerous cyclist there are 20x dangerous drivers.

Also aiming the discussion at the lowest common denominator isn't really the point, innit.

I don't really care if cyclists want to risk their life riding on the road, weaving in and out of traffic or running red lights. If they get hit, they get hit. Their fault.

BUT, when they're riding their bikes in a shared zone that is the main path to a primary school, and coming very close to those kids and the parents that walk with them, then I have no problem with them getting pinged for their poor riding.

As a pedestrian, I shouldn't have to worry about getting clipped by these speeding riders as they whip down the hill with no care for anyone around them.

The majority of riders do the right thing. But many don't. I'd be happy with more people riding their bikes instead of driving into the CBD. But they need to do it legally and safely. Riders want cars to treat them with respect. Pedestrians want the same thing from cyclists.

Have you considered that if cyclists were safer on the road that they wouldn't be competing with pedestrians?

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Originally Posted by NismoR31

So tell me how a cyclist doing 50km/h colliding with a walking pedestrian differs from a car coming close to a cyclist with only a 10km/h speed difference.

Spoiler:

fwiw i don't have an issue with cyclists who obey the road rules and are courteous & ride safely. I ride occasionally myself.
I do have a BIG issue with all the fucking self-entitled cowbows on bicycles who think the law doesn't apply to them and they can do whatever the fuck they want where they want.
Same with drivers - drive sensibly, Be aware of your surroundings & no it's not your fucking road.

About one and a bit tonnes of car in the equation.

^ bullshit standard response.

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Originally Posted by big eddie

Have you considered that if cyclists were safer on the road that they wouldn't be competing with pedestrians?

Why yes I have. But it doesn't excuse a subset of riders behaving like assholes when it comes to cyclist - pedestrian interactions.

As for your flip response about a car being 1 tonne, a cyclist travelling at 60 kph is still going to do a fair bit of damage to a 6 year old.

Not slowing down near/getting well out of the way of unpredictable kids/dogs/elderly (in particular) is just poor form and arrogance. It only takes a pedestrian changing their walking direction unexpectedly to be struck by a cyclist at low speed to have them end up with their head hitting the pavement. Kids, dogs, elderly are even more unpredictable sometimes. Young peeps walking box visioned into their iphones though.. cunse fucking deserve to be hit.


Actually was attempting to get back into cycling after seeing there's some pretty decent trails near my place. But just when I'd bought my MTB home from storage, had the hydraulics serviced and ordered a bike lock online it was stolen from our LUG! The bike lock arrived 2 days later.. doooh!

Was an old 2k6 Norco Bigfoot, worth ~$300 second hand on a good day. Thought, "fuck it, a couple of weeks without a lock this old undesireable MTB will be fine in the garage..." Nup! Perhaps the chuncky dirt jump tyres and fork fooled the thieves into thinking it was a more modern 650b MTB?

Guessing it was an opportunist meth head, as I'd had a bike worth roughly double locked up in there with the flimsiest shittest braided cable chain.

Anyway, 6 months of back and forth with insurance the replacement arrived last weekend - got a free upgrade from the 7.1 to a 7.2 because they were out of stock..

https://www.norco.com/bikes/mountain...er/charger-72/

Will be residing indoors til my "you need a battery angle grinder or GTFO" bike lock arrives.


Also, going to need one of these.. in black..

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ll/description

At least it costs less than the ridiculous nanny state fines for not having a bike bell now.


AFAIK can ditch the reflectors so long as it's daytime riding though.

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Also, going to need one of these.. in black..

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ll/description

At least it costs less than the ridiculous nanny state fines for not having a bike bell now.

That actually looks really sweet, nice and discreet.
Not bad for an aussie kicksharter.

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Originally Posted by NismoR31

^ bullshit standard response.

Just basic physics.

Stop being so logical Eddie.

The thing that I can't fathom is why such excessive hate here when in Europe everyone gets it. Bikes = less traffic + more car parks.

So.... We've got the first married couple in the group splitting up with a child. It would appear there is a Facebook competition to see who's playing the most happy (non) families through all this. Neither of them really posted anything on FB and now they're both posting every day.

If I have to choose sides, I think I'll take the dog.

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The thing that I can't fathom is why such excessive hate here when in Europe everyone gets it. Bikes = less traffic + more car parks.

I'm all for more bikes. Complaining about bike riders getting pinged by the cops for breaking the law is a bit stupid though. It's like saying pedestrians should be allowed to have assault rifles so they stand a chance against all the phychos on bikes & in cars, which will mean more pedestrians & less cars on the road.

Yes your thoughts are reasonable and on point. How can't I agree with that.

fuck me. Shane Warne is not something I want to see flash up on my computer first thing in the morning

how can someone with so much botox look older than he actually is.

Could Slack be a replacement for GCP&G chat/ITM?

wow

i see people using slack for everything these days but never even thought of that

Make it so.

Tell me more.

I'm rolling out the slack client at work at the mo (web version ain't good enough apparently) so would be totally onboard that starship.

Warp factor 11 meester Worf!

And so on.

V-tron you have an action item.

I set up a group this morning. itm, skog, inthemix and intermix are all taken, so I set up itm-skog. If someone has a better idea, and time to set it up & send invites... invite grruso at the gmail.

Gcp&g?

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Gcp&g?

i'm in the process of starting the GCP&G team.

invite sent grruso

PM N4TE for invites....or me, actually, don't PM N4TE for invites, PM me.

best don't actually, are PM's even a thing anymore?

https://gcpandg.slack.com/home

Goddam gravatars. Stand by until my bouquet turns back into a pipe.

as usual....

me neither

Invites to Spokey's group sent to RWS, Mike, V-Tron, Nis, Quimby, Ian, Legless, Charger, Mickstah, Bracko.

(I just grabbed the addresses of recent posters. Post any usernames we should invite, and I will abuse my mod rights some more.)

cheers

Let's see if this lasts as long as Reddit did…

i'm keen

We can just look up your profiles if you don't want to post your emails. Gruso eluded to it, ill just come out and state it.

I'm fearful of it though, it has WP support.

I'm in. Felt so spesh getting an email from gru

What's a slack?

Over productive people making procrastination apps.

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Considering the number of asshole cyclists who go whizzing past me close enough to brush the hairs on my arm or the ones who don't dismount through a construction zone where it's wide enough for one person in each direction or the ones who constantly ignore the "Give Way" signs at the end of a bike lane and cut in front of me, I've got no problem with cops cracking down on them. Especially since this all happens in an area where there a bunch of small kids walking to and from school.

seeing this a bit at kent street in sydney at the moment, big signs up telling cyclists to get off as you know clearly no room and they wont do it.

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seeing this a bit at kent street in sydney at the moment, big signs up telling cyclists to get off as you know clearly no room and they wont do it.

That's exactly where I'm talking about plus the shared path that wraps around up to Observatory Hill. There's a school up top and most of the kids walk in this area.

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V-tron you have an action item.

Sorry, I was asleep. I'm working "freelance" at the moment.

Fuzzy, your email address is bouncing.

nathrek at the google

Gotchu already fam, open the google mail.

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That's exactly where I'm talking about plus the shared path that wraps around up to Observatory Hill. There's a school up top and most of the kids walk in this area.

yeah fuck those guys, its barely room for one person to walk part of the way, and its only temporary while they fix some shit up

Boaty McBoatface will live on! They named the boat Sir David Attenborough, and its sub Boaty McBoatface
http://www.smh.com.au/world/boaty-mc...6-goolmy.html?

Post it to slack #news jeez

Probably put an old email in.. PM incoming gru

Hurr, PM don't work lol