[wana3q]

I'm stumped.

I've seen Sander play a few times.

Not once has he fit into the flow of the night/event he has played at.

He played in the GK arena at Futuremusic a couple of years back.

Then Godskitchen.... Then Trance Energy....

Why does he keep getting booked for monster Trance sets when he should be playing events with guys like Dusty Kid, D-Nox & Beckers and Alan Fitzpatrick?

He comes on after Menno De Jong last year, drops the BPM and plays sick Tech Trance... Big room Techno really. Didnt flow.

His such a fucking wicked artist and yeah he does do some really cool Tech Trance stuff... but he would be more suited to a Laundry/Darkbeat set than he is for a big Trance event imo.

Need further proof??..... just listen to Supernaturalistic and please find me a Trance tune on there...

Twas funny... I gave Grasshopper, The Bass, Sushi and 15 to a mate that plays a fair few Techno gigs around Sydney and he raved about them being proper dancefloor destroyers at these nights where Trance is lol'd at

So yeah..... only reason he is discussed on this forum is because he is Dutch and has "van" in his name yo.

true story.

[narcism]

Every time i have seen him, he has dominated. Who cares as to what parties he gets booked at.

[wana3q]

I do.

Because I like flow in my nights and want to see him tear a small dark room sans lazorz and phat pantz apart you ****

[metaphorikal]

[loopi]

LOL cry more, wana3q

[wana3q]

ahhhh shuddup loopi... back to Defqon1 you bogan!!!

[loopi]

sorry, your crying was so loud that it distracted me

[flippy]

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Originally Posted by wana3q

He played in the GK arena at Futuremusic a couple of years back.

Then Godskitchen.... Then Trance Energy....

wasn't at Future, but given his sound at the time, i guarantee it would have fit a trance event more than anything he's done/played recently...

his GK set was okay, trance energy i didn't really bother... the only tune of his i've liked a lot recently is Bliksem.. before that it was like his 2006 epic mega-techtrance stuff

so i see where you're comin from..

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Originally Posted by metaphorikal

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Originally Posted by wana3q

[metaphorikal]

if i had the pic from echild of the guy eating out the girl at manic id post it up here

[wana3q]

Havent found the Trance on Supernaturalistic after 576 listens... I musnt be doinitrite?

[dthomas22]

Spaceman Says Everybody Look Down

[Marshy]

SVD > wana3q.

[wana3q]

DJ sodabulb > Marshy.

[realkirill]

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Originally Posted by Marshy

SVD > wana3q.

[EgosXII]

the whole point of sander in current times is that he's not genre-specific.

that's why riff was so huge, as was the JOC remix of full tiltin, pretty much any serious dance dj (serious = NOT electro house ) could put it into their sets, playing from house, to tech, to trance...

and that's why sander's so popular, has a bit of everything, and you can say he'd fit well into a techno party which is true, but he'd not play quite the normal stuff for those parties just the same way he doesn't play quite the right stuff for a trance party.

he can play either, and would dominate both
a lot of artists are like that these days i reckon

[donkeydrop]

I would love to see Sander in a club gig rather than big event.

sander van doorn...motherducken sander van doorn

Media Player

and this dark and twisted ducker from him - A.K.A. (Sam Mix)

http://www.djdownload.com/mp3-detail...cordings/21546

[wana3q]

Yeah a Van Doorn club gig is what I'm after..... he would tear the Cave a new asshole then pump that ass till it bleeds then spit on it and swear at it in dutch after putting a cigarette out on it.

[angy]

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Originally Posted by Marshy

SVD > wana3q.

QFT lol

SVD is a f**king trance DJ. My definition of trance is a LOT more broad than yours wann3q

[wana3q]

Yeah but you like Tiesto's new stuff so your shit****ness is alot more broad than mine angy

[JulesPLees]

see this has been the problem with trance in tha last few years - peoPLe narrow the definition of trance down so far that only one small segment of what is really trance is defined as trance.

this is why a lot of the world only sees armada style dance music as trance.


trance is such a broad genre - just because its shit doesnt mean its not trance lol. its just shit trance.

i havent heard an svd set for a while but im backing he's still a trance dj

[wana3q]

Na I admit... when I made this thread I was half trolling half cereal.

His is Trance... Tech-Trance... definately.

But he is definately more Techno... no doubt about that.

Just saying its kinda weird that he is strictly thought of as a Trance DJ despite alot of his productions being Technoes.

All comes back to the 'van' I tells ya.

[MongooseFiend]

It's more that he started off a lot more trancey than he is now, and hasn't gone up his arse far enough to be considered techno

I agree with EgosXII, he's not exactly genre-specific right now. His live sets have that groovy tech and even slight electro sound to them, before ramping up to tech trance, all with a pretty unique build to the set... And his radio show (like heaps of other radio shows) has all sorts of sounds in it.

SvD is the new face of trance to me. To me it feels like trance has two sorta directions at the moment, the traditional driving sounds pushed by Ferry, Askew, etc... And the hybrid sounds pushed by SvD, Schossow, Roth, etc.

Just because it's a hybrid sound doesn't make it trance. I wouldn't call Sander completely techno at all. Then again if your opinion of trance was narrow you wouldn't call him trance either.

Genres suck. SvD is one talented guy - the way he built his set over 60mins at Trance Energy was amazing.

[ChemicalJames]

Agree, he def used to produce stuff that was regarded as more traditional tech trance. He is a great festival DJ. His sound always suits that big room outdoor vibe. Cry less and stop buying tickets to future events if flow means so much to you.

It's the same reason i try to avoid Micheal Bay movies.

[JulesPLees]

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Originally Posted by ChemicalJames

It's the same reason i try to avoid Micheal Bay movies.

lol armageddon was a masterpiece.

*disclaimer : above statement maybe totally opposite to reality

[DJ_Tingles]

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Originally Posted by JulesPLees

lol armageddon was a masterpiece.

*disclaimer : above statement maybe totally opposite to reality

I Lol'd.
But seriously, i fucking love The Rock.

[cookieFp]

Technically, one of the best DJs i've seen. Don't think I've heard someone mix so smoothly.

[rossredman]

Sander Van Doorn is trance because he USED to be techtrance, and he slowly changed his sound to the more minimal stuff it (generally) is now, instead of doing a complete genre jump like oakenfold, tiesto etc. i think thats a big reason why trance has evolved to the sound it is today as well, the big djs have continued to support the tracks created by artists like sander, Marco V and to an extent randy katana, etc.

Whether his tracks are trance or not, he is still recognised as a trance dj / artist because that is the circle he generally moves around. its definitely bought about a new surge in the trance sound, not singlehandedly, but very influential at least.

Its a similar thing with techno, why it went from the more driving stuff to minimal, because of guys like Liebing / Beyer, etc, they influenced a new generation of artists, and suddenly there's an extension of a genre.

To be honest, its a good thing that it's happened, because there's only so much straight up trance you can handle in a night / day before you need something else to give it contrast.

Well... thats my last 3 minutes of thought on it anyway..... whether it makes any sense, or its worth anything to the thread will be revealed all in good time.

But there is one thing i'd like to point out: Sander in the cave would be stupidly intense.

[jova]

^^^ Oh too fucking true. Nicolas Cage DOMINATED in that movie!
I didn't even know Michael Bay made that movie. He nailed it! That guy can still make some decent films. I guess it's just funny to bag him out cause Team America did it so well.

[Ethereal1]

Lol I thought this was abt svd now where talking Michael bay lol, well sander said this in his production sessions that he plays trance, techno, tech house etc... So his still a trance dj I have his doorn identity mix and what I can is it's jus a hybrid of tunes from tech, tech house, a lil minimal and tech trance. But this new style is bloody awesome, there also progressive trance the third style like myon & shane54, San, gareth emery

[narcism]

DJmag Presents: Sander Van Doorn – The Doorn Identity
Release date: 1 September 2009

Tracklist:
01. Oryon – Rocket Science
02. SVD Presents Purple Haze – Bliksem
03. Marcus Schossow Presents Progresia – Galandia
04. Simon Patterson – Different Feeling (Filterheadz Remix)
05. Sander Van Doorn & Marco V – What Say (Bingo Players Remix)
06. Olav Basoski & DJ Erik E – Don’t Turn Your Back (SVD Remix)
07. Van Der Zwan, Rehab, Groeneveld – Fastevil (Franky Rizardo Remix)
08. Afrojack – Polkadots
09. Sean Tyas – Seven Weeks
10. David Forbes Presents Sebrof – Moniter
11. Sander Van Doorn – Look Inside Your Head (123XYZ Remix SVD Re-Edit)
12. Sam Sharp – Roundabout (SVD Remix)
13. Ummet Ozcan – Timewave Zero

hhmmm

[aaron_camz]

^ I guess only 1/3 of those songs aren't trance. Galandia is debatable.

04. Simon Patterson – Different Feeling (Filterheadz Remix)
05. Sander Van Doorn & Marco V – What Say (Bingo Players Remix)
06. Olav Basoski & DJ Erik E – Don’t Turn Your Back (SVD Remix)
07. Van Der Zwan, Rehab, Groeneveld – Fastevil (Franky Rizardo Remix)
08. Afrojack – Polkadots

[trancejunkii]

because trance fans love Sander van Doorn

[eu4ia]

he played simon patterson - thump at gods. probably the only thing he played in his set that suited the timeslot he was given :S

[ChemicalJames]

^lol

Best set of the night easy. If you want to talk about someone who didn't play his set time, look no further than joc.

[narcism]

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Originally Posted by ChemicalJames

^lol

Best set of the night easy. If you want to talk about someone who didn't play his set time, look no further than joc.

FKN BANG, biggest disappointment ever

[hrdde]

future 2007 set was epic, his tech trance days and old identity sets were the shiz, personally i hate his new sound after what he has come from

[EgosXII]

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Originally Posted by ChemicalJames

^lol

Best set of the night easy. If you want to talk about someone who didn't play his set time, look no further than joc.

+1
his set suited the time perfectly, it was still fast-paced, just not in bpm terms, and wasn't bangin as fuck, doesn't mean it wasn't pumpin

joc was horrible, all over the shop, sander was brilliant

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Originally Posted by hrdde

future 2007 set was epic, his tech trance days and old identity sets were the shiz, personally i hate his new sound after what he has come from

how fuckin awesome was identity 1.. old as, but damn it was good..

[aaron_camz]

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Originally Posted by EgosXII

+1
his set suited the time perfectly, it was still fast-paced, just not in bpm terms, and wasn't bangin as fuck, doesn't mean it wasn't pumpin

joc was horrible, all over the shop, sander was brilliant

agreed 99% - the other 1% being for Sander dropping that "something something outaa spacee to findd anotherr racee" - I hate that tune so bad.

[narcism]

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Originally Posted by aaron_camz

agreed 99% - the other 1% being for Sander dropping that "something something outaa spacee to findd anotherr racee" - I hate that tune so bad.

die

[aaron_camz]

so much hate in this thread

[Marshy]

I kind of really, really like him.

[ChemicalJames]

♥

me2

[DJ B]

Quote:

Originally Posted by wana3q

I'm stumped.

I've seen Sander play a few times.

Not once has he fit into the flow of the night/event he has played at.

He played in the GK arena at Futuremusic a couple of years back.

Then Godskitchen.... Then Trance Energy....

Why does he keep getting booked for monster Trance sets when he should be playing events with guys like Dusty Kid, D-Nox & Beckers and Alan Fitzpatrick?

He comes on after Menno De Jong last year, drops the BPM and plays sick Tech Trance... Big room Techno really. Didnt flow.

His such a fucking wicked artist and yeah he does do some really cool Tech Trance stuff... but he would be more suited to a Laundry/Darkbeat set than he is for a big Trance event imo.

Need further proof??..... just listen to Supernaturalistic and please find me a Trance tune on there...

Twas funny... I gave Grasshopper, The Bass, Sushi and 15 to a mate that plays a fair few Techno gigs around Sydney and he raved about them being proper dancefloor destroyers at these nights where Trance is lol'd at

So yeah..... only reason he is discussed on this forum is because he is Dutch and has "van" in his name yo.

true story.

i think its a great point and well made.
At global gathering last year he was great because he broke the night up from all the other major trance stars, but at events with maybe 2-3 mega trancers, he often seems to lose a bit of momentum late in his sets..

And on that note, id like to mention Marco V.
Im sorry to anyone that loves him, but ive seen him basically vacate dance floors @ Amnesia ibiza and Galley @ Turnmills... not to say i dont like him, but i've had trouble handling 2 hour set's from him in a trance enviroment. (ive seen marco about 8 times)
He just dosent fit the flow and fails to lift intencity.. well thats my 2 cents anyway

[EgosXII]

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Originally Posted by aaron_camz

so much hate in this thread

was full of PLUR till you got here...

[Elliot G]

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Originally Posted by ChemicalJames

^lol

Best set of the night easy..

didnt mind Menno actually, but that's neither here nor there.....

[DJ_Ange]

I've seen Sander loads of times and I do think it does come down to the nights booking him. He is at a point in his career where he should be booked and placed on a suitable set time. Sander will play what he plays regardless of the time so it does come down to the the promoter to give him the right time that suits his sound and book other djs that suit the flow (if that's what they are after .... some promoters don't care about flow and just book big names that pull numbers)

His sound really suits Judgement Sundays. Having been at almost every one this year Sander always fit perfectly with the night, but although I didn't make it to Cream when he played I would bet his sound didn't suit as well there based on the other DJs on the lineup around him (although I know he's been put last at least once which he can do what the hell he likes then lol)

I agree with Rossco's take on it. SvD has inspired a change towards the more tribal/tech trance sound which I think is half way between pure Trance and Hard Trance so it kind of keeps the purists happy while being accessible to the harder trance fans as well.

[rossredman]

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Originally Posted by DJ_Ange

I agree with Rossco's take on it. SvD has inspired a change towards the more tribal/tech trance sound which I think is half way between pure Trance and Hard Trance so it kind of keeps the purists happy while being accessible to the harder trance fans as well.

I was actually talking more between trance and techno / tech house than anything else, going by his productions, and tracks he's been championing lately, at least.

[EgosXII]

yeah i think it's a huge leap claiming sander is anywhere NEAR hard trance.. maybe back in 2004 or something, he's more like tech house.

in fact he just won an electro house award according to his facebook LOL
not sure about that one tho

[ChemicalJames]

i agree with above 2 posts.

[DJ_Ange]

although this just shoots everything to shit ... http://www.djawards.com/

Sander was voted the winner of the Electro House category

I wasn't saying Sander is Hard Trance, I meant that his sound is in between the 2. His Judgement sets always started off more tech/prog and then by the end would be absolutely banging but no I wasn't saying he's hard trance at all.