[sillyclimber]

Does anyone know where this is happening?

http://www.inthemix.com.au/news/aust..._to_be_scanned

Temperatures continue to rise in Queensland over the state of our entertainment precincts. Glass bans, a proposal of a midnight lockout and a 2am shutdown from the Queensland Police Union and an increase in police presence have all been put forward as solutions to reduce alcohol related violence on the streets. In reaction to these sensational band-aid resolutions, the bid for chill-out zones and ID scanners have been presented as viable solutions, with some of Brisbane’s biggest venues set to install them by early next year.

With hot words waging on forums and in discussions alike about ID Scanners now at Casablanca, Family Nightclub, The Met and Love and Rockets, more venues are expected to have ID Scanners installed within the next month. However, the most shocking news to date has been today’s public declaration that new fingerprinting scanning systems will be introduced to Katarzyna Group venues including Cloudland, The Family, Empire Hotel, Press Club and Birdiee Num Nums by the end of February, with the system already in use at Options Tavern in Helensvale and a number of establishments in Sydney.

Police blitz “Operation Unite” has been announced for December 11 and 12, with an increased police presence, including mounted police and the dog squad police on patrol. Starting from 11am on December 11, police will be cracking down against alcohol related violence and crime with overt and covert operations and random breath testings. Following on the heels of this public announcement, a year long safety program Your Playground. Play Nice. Play Safe was unveiled by the Valley Liquor Accord last week; a program being run in conjunction with Drug Arm as part of the government’s Safer Venues campaign.

The natural concern from this announcement is the issue of privacy. The Queensland Hotels Association and many other related bodies endorse the system as a means of discouraging anti-social behaviour while making it simple for patrons to revisit the same venues within a 28 day turnaround. However, privacy concerns are uppermost in clubber’s minds. While all these bids are certainly a proactive reaction against the violence on our streets, the question still remains: With no privacy laws in place for venues to store the obtained information securely, who exactly has access to the information once it has been taken?

[definedbyrhythm]

Pretty sure there was a thread saying Home were bringing it in... not sure if they have or not?

[macc4]

Queensland. Didn't you read before copy paste?

[franko123]

Home night club uses finger scanners

[DJ MooseKnuckle]

Home's been using it for months.

They take a scan of your right index finger and your ID the first time you go through it.

Every subsequent time you then scan your fingerprint and your particulars come up.

[SurfinBird]

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Originally Posted by definedbyrhythm

Pretty sure there was a thread saying Home were bringing it in... not sure if they have or not?

Yep.

And its a fucking disgrace imo.

[DJ DUKE DOOM]

Oh how dare they introduce reasonable measures to assist in preventing violence and crimes in our public licensed venues! What are these fuckers thinking, who is going to stand up to these morons.

[Elliot G]

I dunno. Given the name that Home unfortunately developed, it is a sure fire way to clean it up a bit.

Went and saw O'Bir a month ago, and sure, it's a little confronting, but if you've got nothing to hide (so to speak), and it keeps the trouble away, i'm ok with it.

[DJ MooseKnuckle]

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Originally Posted by DJ DUKE DOOM

Oh how dare they introduce reasonable measures to assist in preventing violence and crimes in our public licensed venues! What are these fuckers thinking, who is going to stand up to these morons.

Effectively the debate is that were becoming a police state. I'm waiting for the day Martial Law is declared and then I'm going on a looting spree during curfew.

[deepbeetzz]

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ DUKE DOOM

Oh how dare they introduce reasonable measures to assist in preventing violence and crimes in our public licensed venues! What are these fuckers thinking, who is going to stand up to these morons.

If you have no problem with institutions and eventually the government knowing your every movement and location then fine, not everyone feels the same though mate.

[Space_man]

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Originally Posted by DJ DUKE DOOM

Oh how dare they introduce reasonable measures to assist in preventing violence and crimes in our public licensed venues! What are these fuckers thinking, who is going to stand up to these morons.

as classic as you saying there is no need for people to go to free parties cause we got fuzzy parties

[fatman1234]

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Originally Posted by DJ DUKE DOOM

Oh how dare they introduce reasonable measures to assist in preventing violence and crimes in our public licensed venues! What are these fuckers thinking, who is going to stand up to these morons.

You think most of the people who will glass/stab someone care about the fact the venue has their ID stored. The same sort of people are the ones who fight with police, they don't give a fuck.

[Space_man]

all this media sensationalism is edging us closer to this dystopian society, all just to sell some papers?

[sillyclimber]

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Originally Posted by macc4

Queensland. Didn't you read before copy paste?

didn't you read the article?

So if Home are essentially taking the details of everyone that enters their club along with how frequently, what happens to the data? Is it used purely for that purpose or is used as a mailing list internally or even worse, sold on to a 3rd party?

From a data mining and privacy point of view I find this concept very disturbing indeed. If I sign up to a mailing list, no problem, but being forced into a data base when I go to a club. Now thats an issue!

Essentially they will have my address, DOB, drivers licence number, gender, type of licence. Does anyone else see some serious problems with this?

[pieman70]

why do they need an ID in addition to fingerprint. would not just a fingerprint and a reference number to go with it be sufficient to filter out previous troublemakers? seeing as everyone has a unique fingerprint; ID is actually irrelevant

[paul_sack]

thread has been done

http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/sho...d.php?t=254577

we dont really need to do it again..