[KillaKowalski]

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!


The sydney city council are a joke.
Lockouts are ineffective in curbing violence, she has also created a cycle way on bourke road to curb alexandrias carbon footprint, despite bourke road being one of the areas busiest roads for freight and transport. There is a massive list, please feel free to add.

How does she keep getting voted in?

[Kingy999]

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillaKowalski

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!


The sydney city council are a joke.
Lockouts are ineffective in curbing violence, she has also created a cycle way on bourke road to curb alexandrias carbon footprint, despite bourke road being one of the areas busiest roads for freight and transport. There is a massive list, please feel free to add.

How does she keep getting voted in?

Fuck that cycle way has fucked up so much shit around here!

[weekender]

She likes dogs though.

[KillaKowalski]

Fairly sure the dog parks existed before clover moore.

Or do you mean mounting her? I kid I kid... Or do I

[jay__jay]

if we were to add every fail aspect of Clover Moore the list would go on forever

[KillaKowalski]

We should give it a go, I'm sick of her messing up sydney.

"
In an extraordinary move at council on Monday night, Lord Mayor Clover Moore and her team of ‘independents’ voted against a lower pool entry fee for children at the new Ian Thorpe pool at Ultimo, soon to be open.

Using her casting vote against the children of Sydney, Lord Mayor Clover Moore rejected Greens Deputy Lord Mayor Chris Harris’ amendment to reduce the entry fee for children from $4.40 to $3.00.

‘The only reason that council gave to reject a $3 entry fee for children was that it would cost the council $64,000,’ said Cr Harris.

‘I am appalled that our Lord Mayor and her team would put a $64,000 price tag on our children. All we’re talking about is a $1.40 reduction. Let’s not forget that Council made a net surplus this year of $61.7 million.’
"

[youngman]

I respect the focus on cycling infrastrucutre but am yet to see a good peice of infrastrucutre built. I commute to work but have not checked out the Bourke Rd path yet. Is it crap?

[KillaKowalski]

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Originally Posted by youngman

I respect the focus on cycling infrastrucutre but am yet to see a good peice of infrastrucutre built. I commute to work but have not checked out the Bourke Rd path yet. Is it crap?

The problem is, for example you live in Bexley, yes there is a cycle path on bourke road... But how the fuck do I get there safely?

Being defendant on all councils creating a path that connects everywhere, this plan is so short sighted ... You should see the massive trucks trying to turn into drive ways on bourke road, someone will get killed.

[weekender]

Most dog parks are now off leash 24/7.... they weren't until recently.... a win for my Staffy

Admittedly, some owners leave a lot to be desired...

[base615]

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Originally Posted by KillaKowalski

Fairly sure the dog parks existed before clover moore.

Not on the same level. I think she's alright actually.

[KillaKowalski]

Yeah its fine if you live in newtown, but there should be more fenced off ones in other areas of sydney city council anyway.



Erskenville's isn't and is above a sess pit of shitty ground that when it rains pools water which has made dogs sick in the past.

[pomrocks]

clover's great if you want to live in a quiet area with zero nightlife

[KillaKowalski]

yeah she has instituted the small bars thing which is good at face value, but they will still be subject to massive noise regulations to suit all the fuddy duddies who complain ad nauseum about anything louder then 2 decibels.

Imo it's just a way to claw more money.

[alternate_1959]

Wasn't she trying to ban posters on poles.

Inner city they are part of the landscape imo.

[alternate_1959]

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillaKowalski

yeah she has instituted the small bars thing which is good at face value, but they will still be subject to massive noise regulations to suit all the fuddy duddies who complain ad nauseum about anything louder then 2 decibels.

Imo it's just a way to claw more money.

I read somewhere that will all the regs the whole concept was a joke.

[youngman]

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillaKowalski

The problem is, for example you live in Bexley, yes there is a cycle path on bourke road... But how the fuck do I get there safely?

Being defendant on all councils creating a path that connects everywhere, this plan is so short sighted ... You should see the massive trucks trying to turn into drive ways on bourke road, someone will get killed.

Well you can't blame her for that - you need to blame the state goverment for not having an integrated cycling transport strategy for the whole city. The City of Sydney area only covers a few inner-city suburbs.

[KillaKowalski]

Quote:

Originally Posted by youngman

Well you can't blame her for that - you need to blame the state goverment for not having an integrated cycling transport strategy for the whole city. The City of Sydney area only covers a few inner-city suburbs.

Well the roads she has put the cycle ways on so far are densely populated with transport and logistics companies, so its a massive fail on her part.

[weekender]

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillaKowalski

Yeah its fine if you live in newtown, but there should be more fenced off ones in other areas of sydney city council anyway.



Erskenville's isn't and is above a sess pit of shitty ground that when it rains pools water which has made dogs sick in the past.

? Harry Noble reserve ?

The whole area is built on clay, hence the poor drainage when it rains. (Apparently used to be grazing land way back when the first settlers landed and expanded.)

Never had an issue with the hound down there...

My issues with Clover are The Imperial and the proposed Thomas Dux, but that's for another day....

[youngman]

I live quite close to Bourke Rd and to be honest, where would be better - O'Riordon St? Botany Rd? No way! Bourke is the best of a bad bunch and is designed to link up to Bourke St eventually.

The King St cycleway in the city however is a complete joke. What an incredible waste of money. How stupid is it getting cyclists to stop at red lights while peddling up hill and I am yet to figure out how you are meant to join the cyclway when heading downhill legally as it does not connect to any other roads. Bizarre

[pomrocks]

Quote:

Originally Posted by weekender

My issues with Clover are The Imperial and the proposed Thomas Dux, but that's for another day....

Oh i'll fire up on that one

They are blocking the imperial due to noise / patrons etc because the local 'residents' want peace & quiet. Yet they want to approve thomas dux which will increase traffic on a small road that already struggles????? idiots

[larrisajones]

Quote:

Originally Posted by youngman

I live quite close to Bourke Rd and to be honest, where would be better - O'Riordon St? Botany Rd? No way! Bourke is the best of a bad bunch and is designed to link up to Bourke St eventually.

The King St cycleway in the city however is a complete joke. What an incredible waste of money. How stupid is it getting cyclists to stop at red lights while peddling up hill and I am yet to figure out how you are meant to join the cyclway when heading downhill legally as it does not connect to any other roads. Bizarre

Isn't it awesome how we have no supermarkets?!?!

[KillaKowalski]

Quote:

Originally Posted by youngman

I live quite close to Bourke Rd and to be honest, where would be better - O'Riordon St? Botany Rd? No way! Bourke is the best of a bad bunch and is designed to link up to Bourke St eventually.

the whole cycle route is stupid in my opinion, I think you will find that most of the people who work around alexandria/mascot/botany either live nowhere near bourke st/surry hills etc. More likely they live in Botany, Kensington, rosebery, inner west/south and everywhere else in sydney (they also most likely drive to work). I promise you this cycle path is going to be a massive white elephant.

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Originally Posted by larrisajones

Isn't it awesome how we have no supermarkets?!?!

Quiet you, go to IGA or die!!!


or pay top dollar at your local supermarket for things that cost 50-60% less at proper supermarkets.

[ehcoroche]

hate fucking?

thats all she would be good for IMO...

[Brother Al]

Quote:

Originally Posted by youngman

The King St cycleway in the city however is a complete joke. What an incredible waste of money. How stupid is it getting cyclists to stop at red lights while peddling up hill and I am yet to figure out how you are meant to join the cyclway when heading downhill legally as it does not connect to any other roads. Bizarre

the only thing this cycleway is good for is getting from the darling harbour footpath to kent st, going up hill, which is the whole point of it - so it connects to the harbour bridge. you have to stop at the red lights? cry moar, better than being monstered by traffic going up that hill. I ride it every day.


bourke st hey? whats it like on weekends? might go for a ride there one weekend.

[Chad_wick]

Clover moore shits me to tears,

Trying to convert the city into the suburbs is just utter cretionist

On the whole small bar licences I personally think it's a bit of joke as although it easier to get a liquor licence for a bar, it's now a lot harder to DA approval for a bar. Bit of a cope out really.

[keepcontrol]

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillaKowalski

We should give it a go, I'm sick of her messing up sydney.

"
In an extraordinary move at council on Monday night, Lord Mayor Clover Moore and her team of ‘independents’ voted against a lower pool entry fee for children at the new Ian Thorpe pool at Ultimo, soon to be open.

Using her casting vote against the children of Sydney, Lord Mayor Clover Moore rejected Greens Deputy Lord Mayor Chris Harris’ amendment to reduce the entry fee for children from $4.40 to $3.00.

‘The only reason that council gave to reject a $3 entry fee for children was that it would cost the council $64,000,’ said Cr Harris.

‘I am appalled that our Lord Mayor and her team would put a $64,000 price tag on our children. All we’re talking about is a $1.40 reduction. Let’s not forget that Council made a net surplus this year of $61.7 million.’
"

I have even more alarming news about that pool..

Ian Thorpe doesn't even swim there!!

[youngman]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Al

you have to stop at the red lights? cry moar, better than being monstered by traffic going up that hill. I ride it every day.

I phrased...poorly. It's not the red lights, it is the fact that cyclist have to stop to give way to motorists who are turning left (and I have not seen many cyclists paying any attention to the lights). It would have made more sense to funnel cyclists up/down Sussex and then direct them up/down Park or Erskine.

I'm sure the King St section will make more sense once the Kent St cycleway has been built.

[Brother Al]

ahh right, well then yes, you have a point. hope they build Kent st soon before i get destroyed.

[youngman]

Well I ride down Kent so you'll have to look out for me or I might destroy you

[boidy]

thomas dux - woolworths' version of Gucci

[BEWARE THE CAT]

The postering issue is ridiculous .. she gets people to take them down which looks crap cos they not being taken down properly .. so it looks like a mess on the walls .. why not let the youth add character and leave them up a bit

then she put up 6 poles to put posters on .. have you seen the size of them .. its a fucking joke .. sydney is a young city run by aging Karnts

[KillaKowalski]

Quote:

Originally Posted by boidy

thomas dux - woolworths' version of Gucci

So that has been approved while others haven't? Clearly Clover clearly wants to create some sort of inner city double bay except full of lesbians and homosexuals.

[pomrocks]

gays AND homos eh?

much better than straights & hetros?

[KillaKowalski]

sorry fixed!!! hehe

I mean I have no problem at all with them, except when Lesbians insist on using the male toilets and then give you grief once inside.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEWARE THE CAT

its a fucking joke .. sydney is a young city run by aging Karnts

Good point.

[midian]

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillaKowalski

Well the roads she has put the cycle ways on so far are densely populated with transport and logistics companies, so its a massive fail on her part.

Yep, the Cycleway on King Street in the CBD, the main arterial hub in to town for people arriving on the City West Link, is proof of that. A whole lane of traffic/off peak parking was removed so someone can ride a bike down the street once every 30 mins. The bike couriers always stay on the road. It's an absolute waste of money and a congestion headache for the CBD.

I can't think of a single reason to vote for her again - quality of life has certainly not improved in the CBD under her tenure to date.

[midian]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Al

ahh right, well then yes, you have a point. hope they build Kent st soon before i get destroyed.

I hope it never sees the light of day and the King Street one is torn up and turned back to a traffic lane. The 6 months it took them to build the King St section alone was a nightmare with the road reduced to two and one lane between Sussex and Kent and the traffic was horrendous. Arterial roads that lead to the major connection between the CBD and South-West Sydney are NOT the best place to sacrifice lanes so someone can ride a bike down there every now and then, especially in a city as congested as Sydney.

As suggested, Sussex St would have made a much better choice. Anyone who's tried to get down King, Kent or Clarence Streets at any peak time would have to know exactly where I'm coming from - and I don't even drive in town, I walk everywhere but I see the chaos daily.

[r_y_z_e_r]

Setting myself up for a major flaming here but she is actually responsible for getting behind some good things. I initial signed up to her newletter to keep up to date with the whole 2am lock out issue and have since changed my previous opinion that she is satan spawn... Do some research...

[Brother Al]

Quote:

Originally Posted by midian

I hope it never sees the light of day and the King Street one is torn up and turned back to a traffic lane. The 6 months it took them to build the King St section alone was a nightmare with the road reduced to two and one lane between Sussex and Kent and the traffic was horrendous. Arterial roads that lead to the major connection between the CBD and South-West Sydney are NOT the best place to sacrifice lanes so someone can ride a bike down there every now and then, especially in a city as congested as Sydney.

As suggested, Sussex St would have made a much better choice. Anyone who's tried to get down King, Kent or Clarence Streets at any peak time would have to know exactly where I'm coming from - and I don't even drive in town, I walk everywhere but I see the chaos daily.

i dont really care, where ever is the safest place to ride my bike home, either way, i'm riding it. If they had of put a suitable cycleway on sussex then i would be there. But its not. So tough titties.

If they tear it up like you wish, i'll find another route. simple as that.

[pomrocks]

if you're that worried about bikelanes go get a bloody hover cycle

[Fittler]

Quote:

Originally Posted by r_y_z_e_r

Setting myself up for a major flaming here but she is actually responsible for getting behind some good things. I initial signed up to her newletter to keep up to date with the whole 2am lock out issue and have since changed my previous opinion that she is satan spawn... Do some research...

I agree, I live very close to Bourke Street and believe it is the only option. reducing through traffic on Bourke street is not a problem in my mind.
She is also very good for people that love the outdoors and Sydney's parklands.

Like everyone she has her pros and cons, but she has had a number of positive impacts.
How many politicians can you say that about?

[KillaKowalski]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fittler

reducing through traffic on Bourke street is not a problem in my mind.

Im trying my best not to insult the crap out of you regarding this point. But instead Im going to ask why on earth is this not a problem for you 'in your mind'

keeping in mind the large amount of businesses on this road.

[Space_man]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad_wick

On the whole small bar licences I personally think it's a bit of joke as although it easier to get a liquor licence for a bar, it's now a lot harder to DA approval for a bar. Bit of a cope out really.

i guess that why places like:

- Pocket bar
- Low 302
- Hive Bar
- The Pond
- Small bar
- Ching a lings
- Doctor pong
- Absinthe salon
- Yullis
- Gazebo
- The Winery

have all opened in the last year or so??

[midian]

Quote:

Originally Posted by r_y_z_e_r

Setting myself up for a major flaming here but she is actually responsible for getting behind some good things. I initial signed up to her newletter to keep up to date with the whole 2am lock out issue and have since changed my previous opinion that she is satan spawn... Do some research...

Personally, my objections are a little deeper than can be pacified by a publicists copy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Al

i dont really care, where ever is the safest place to ride my bike home, either way, i'm riding it. If they had of put a suitable cycleway on sussex then i would be there. But its not. So tough titties.

If they tear it up like you wish, i'll find another route. simple as that.

I don't begrudge people the right to ride bikes at all, in fact I fully support it. Anything that takes cars off the road is a good thing, especially in a city as badly laid out as Sydney. What I abhor are the extremely poor town planning choices that were made in the process.

[base615]

If you want a target regarding the lock out etc I think that dickhead Scipione is a better one. Having worked with those ****s and listened to their backward views day in day out I guarantee he was the major driving force behind it

[r_y_z_e_r]

Midian.. do you drive for a living?

[r_y_z_e_r]

Improving antiquated transit infrastructure is bound to cause some inconvenience...

[Bism]

I wish she was moore clever, HAhaHAhaHAaHAA, oh me.

[Bism]

But seriously, I just don't trust anything that looks exactly like a lesbian, but isn't.

[KillaKowalski]

cutting off a leg to fix a broken finger is what the sydney city council is all about.

[LeZp]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bism

But seriously, I just don't trust anything that looks exactly like a lesbian, but isn't.

winner....