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I read today that the guy who was behind Windows NT has been moved onto the xbox team.

THIS MUST MEAN THEY ARE SHOWING AT E3 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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next gen xbox dev chips in production?

http://www.thisisxbox.com/360/next-g...to-production/

i dont understand all the jargon for the chip but i found this which i think is related

http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/17/m...landsgcn-leak/


http://wccftech.com/amds-generation-...-specs-leaked/
theres some more info on the HD7000 chips here but im not 100% sure theyre related, as i said, i dont understand the jargon.
but if anyone can get any info on what these new xbox dev chips might have in the guts fill me in please

oh jrod.

the hd7000 are the desktop GPUs. the SoC in the 720 will have a GPU based on the architecture, but almost completely unrelated to the desktop chips.

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how does that i don't even understand the jargon
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We may be lots of things on this side of the internet (INTERWEBS) – Call of Duty (COD, SIMILAR TO BF3) addicts, gaming news enthusiasts who just have to know everything about everything when it comes to the Xbox 360, but we also know what we aren’t – and thats geeky tech heads who understand the greatness of SoC (SYSTEM ON CHIP), and 300mm 32nm SOI wafers (ROUND THINGS MADE FROM SAND)… set to line the internal guts of the next generation of Xbox consoles.

SemiAccurate have ran a report that the next Xbox – once again, Xbox 720, Next Box, Xbox 3, Xbox Infinity, Xbox Loop whatever you want to call it, has had its chipset go into production and that the whole kit and kaboodle is likely to be a Power PC CPU (IT'S LIKE AN INTEL BUT IT'S NOT) with an ATI (HURRRRRRRRR IT'S AMD NOW) GCN (GRAPHICS CORE NEXT)/HD7000/Southern Islands GPU (CODENAME FOR GRAPHICS PROCESSING UNIT), running Oban (CODENAME FOR CPU) chips manufactured by IBM (THEY'RE LIKE INTEL BUT THEY'RE NOT).

It is estimated that around 10,000 (THAT'S TEN THOUSAND AT A 1:1 RATIO) units are going into production that suggests this is not, repeat “not” clearly enough for a home console release production, but most certainly a batch of Dev Kits that will be distributed across the globe in preparation for development of the next-gen games set to be released in the next few years.

Sources are saying to expect silicon (THAT SAND SHIT) production for retail consoles to start late 2012, so don’t expect the next Xbox console before Spring 2013 (THAT'S AUTUMN FOR US SOUTHERNERS) at the very least!

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oh jrod.

the hd7000 are the desktop GPUs. the SoC in the 720 will have a GPU based on the architecture, but almost completely unrelated to the desktop chips.

are you saying that you couldn't even understand my post? fuck dude, you're a lost cause.

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well, according to dictionary.com
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chilly is cold temperature.

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I'll try.

- New chipsets are going into production
- They're for dev kits (advance kits for dev studios to explore the hardware, start on release titles), not the consumer product
- The CPU is PowerPC architecture, like the existing 360 (and Macs before they went Intel)
- The GPU is better than the last one, obviously. Exactly what it can do is not known until they start using it.
- You can use this information to estimate when the product might be ready for market
- Can't have

Verdict: Not very interesting news, except for silicon spergers & devs. No useful consumer information within, except maybe the timeframe speculation.
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are you saying that you couldn't even understand my post? fuck dude, you're a lost cause.

i ignored your post because i asked for information not a condescending translation

anyway this in particular

Power PC CPU with an ATI GCN/HD7000/Southern Islands GPU running Oban chips manufactured by IBM

What are its specs.
What makes it good.

not "derp what is a CPU and IBM"
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yeah end of 2013 is looking more probable now.

thanks gruso btw.

though on one of my links i posted it had info on the (what looks like) top of the range HD7000 chip

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HD 7970: 256bit/1000MHz/32CUs/2048ALUs/128TMUs/64ROPs/X DR2 8.0Gbps 256GB/S /190W TDP/ 2GB Memory

doesnt this give us some info on what it can do?
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i ignored your post because i asked for information not a condescending translation

anyway this in particular

Power PC CPU with an ATI GCN/HD7000/Southern Islands GPU running Oban chips manufactured by IBM

What are its specs.
What makes it good.

not "derp what is a CPU and IBM"

my first post was helpful

from what i gather from the brief info i've read on the subject (lol like i care about xbox) the chip will be a SoC (system on chip) made by IBM and/or global foundries with the CPU being designed by IBM. It will be their latest iteration of Power PC and is codenamed OBan.

the GPU is designed by AMD and is based on their latest GPU architecture which was codenamed Southern Islands and is based on their Graphics Core Next (more info on GCN) design.

specs? no details yet.
what makes it good? IBM PowerPc is proven a great CPU alternative to x86 and the Southern Islands desktop GPU that has launched HD7970 has been a smashing success (albeit built on 28nm process). the 32nm SOI process also means that the SoC will perform very well and will be more efficient and produce less heat than older chips.

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well, according to dictionary.com
chilli is hot pepper food etc.
chilly is cold temperature.

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doesnt this give us some info on what it can do?

Do a tech comparison of previous dev kits and their respective consoles and that'll give you an idea.

Hint: A PS2 dev kit was used for dev for both PS2 AND PS3 and is about the size of your average desktop case.

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though on one of my links i posted it had info on the (what looks like) top of the range HD7000 chip

doesnt this give us some info on what it can do?

yes and no. the 7970 (tahiti) as i just mentioned above this post, is the big dog of the southern island family. there will be two more southern island chips for desktop and mobile use 7800 'pitcairn' & 7700 'cape verde' (although they'll probably be called 7900m and 7800m for mobile). these will be 'cut down' versions of the big chip.

the gpu in the xbox will similarly be 'cut down' and modified for the application. so it's a guessing game as to how many compute units, the bus width, the ram, the everything spec wise.... if you catch my drift.

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well, according to dictionary.com
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Seriously, why do you guys still try to teach it.

coz i literally have no work to do and the rest of the internet is blacked out in protest.

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shit, i love how the ps dev unit just looks like an enormous ps2

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coz i literally have no work to do and the rest of the internet is blacked out in protest.


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Those dev units are hot!

Would kill for the DC one.
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shit, i love how the ps dev unit just looks like an enormous ps2

nah im pretty sure ps2's were that big when they first came out
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nah im pretty sure ps2's were that big when they first came out

no they weren't. The production gen 1 unit was way smaller than that dev unit.


look at the size of it compared to the dualshock




and then compared to the slim

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no they weren't. The production gen 1 unit was way smaller than that dev unit.


look at the size of it compared to the dualshock

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They're smaller in real life.

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at least you're willing to admit when you've face palmed. that's progress, jrod. congrats.

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Wait, J-Rod wasn't being sarcastic? I'm so confused right now.
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Wait, J-Rod wasn't being sarcastic? I'm so confused right now.

nah i was.
at least someone got it.

fuck there was even a on the end there to note sarcasm.

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Wait, J-Rod wasn't being sarcastic? I'm so confused right now.

you never know with him. Even if he was/wasn't there's always time for

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They're smaller in real life.

No, they're just further away.
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Blu-Ray as standard please.

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7000 series is pretty decent. Latest specs are showing some amazing OC capabilities, which they should be able to exploit quite well in a stable console environment. I'm actually quite happy with that, assuming they launch in the next couple of years. We will still see the same problem a few years after launch though. Consoles will be fantastic but then will end up lagging too much and for too long after a certain period of time.

The 7000 series should be quite good for a number of years though.
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Battlefield 3 takes the win over MW3 in graphics and realistic simulations, but I much prefer MW3 in online gameplay over Battlefield not that this is the issue here
To where gameplay is at now generationally speaking, i can't see much more happening with the exception of physical detail and the abolishment of loading screens which would be freaking heaven might i add.

Waiting to see if Call of Duty will bring in the option of operating more vehicles in the near future?
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it isnt all about BF3 and MW3.

and by the way. consoles are only running 24 players on multiplayer for bf3 whilst on pc its 64 players because console isnt capable.

yet you cant see much more happening?
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Battlefield 3 takes the win over MW3 in graphics and realistic simulations, but I much prefer MW3 in online gameplay over Battlefield not that this is the issue here
To where gameplay is at now generationally speaking, i can't see much more happening with the exception of physical detail and the abolishment of loading screens which would be freaking heaven might i add.

Waiting to see if Call of Duty will bring in the option of operating more vehicles in the near future?

hey man are u a dj?????????????
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hey man are u a dj?????????????

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I read somewhere recently that recent reports are indicating the Xbox at least (not sure about PS) will be based on the 6000 AMD series. Hmmmmm, not good. Significantly less power and room for movement there than the 7000 series.
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I read somewhere recently that recent reports are indicating the Xbox at least (not sure about PS) will be based on the 6000 AMD series.

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It's a play on the new Xbox name, plus the faux-HD that we already have. It's a meditation on consumerism; a scathing jab at the contrast between stagnant technology and hyperbolic marketing.
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read today(IGN) that the next xbox will not be compatible with used games what are peoples thoughts on that?

I'm torn, i hate EB games and their trade in/game price policy (mass scamming), but spewing that brought games would not be compatible on friends xbox's unless you use a USB. well as it would work currently, i'm sure they will come up with something good.

see what Playstation comes up with i guess, if MS wants to keep pushing their profiteering nonsence maybe i will buy a playstation for the first time. the move towards advertising on the front page of a paid service is another kicker.
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It's a play on the new Xbox name, plus the faux-HD that we already have. It's a meditation on consumerism; a scathing jab at the contrast between stagnant technology and hyperbolic marketing.

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read today(IGN) that the next xbox will not be compatible with used games what are peoples thoughts on that?

No thoughts on it as I will wait for the actual announcement instead of internet rumour and speculation, which will most likely be completely wrong. No point in getting your panties in a knot over it.
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its kind of good and kind of bad.
think about it, M$ dont make money on console sales, they make money on the sale of games and online content.
now, if you take away the money their making on games by a large proportion because of game places selling so much preowned shit. there goes alot of income they need to keep the ball rolling.

if you buy a console and only by preowned games, they make no money off you at all.
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I read today on the Internet that the next XBOX will have a special power cord that only comes in black.
I'm not sure how I feel about that, what other things have you guys heard?
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I read that the controllers will be opera gloves.

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Originally Posted by Kiron View Post

How about you people actually learn a little thing called having a fucking conscious and not being heartless sociopath you piece of shit.

الاستماع إلى ... ال التنفس المدينة.

اسم اللعبة هو ضوء يعمل.
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