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I think it's the "extended keyboard" fucntion that's killing it. the extended keyboard also looks different to the beta.

I will write a bug report and send it.

strangely, the google keyboard that I've used and loved until maybe 5 months ago when I bit the bullet and bought SK now feels like a clunky POS.
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Is it possible to get youtube to continue playback when it's not the primary application?

Pain in the ass listening to music (usually promos) and having to have it on front, with the phone unlocked.

update late last month enabled background audio in the youtube app

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How to get it to work?
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strangely, the google keyboard that I've used and loved until maybe 5 months ago when I bit the bullet and bought SK now feels like a clunky POS.

swiftkey has this effect. Just when you think maybe it's not as good anymore so i'll give <whatever> a go, you realise how shit everything else is in comparison.

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NismoR31 will probably just put it down to user error.

i put you down to user error.
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Went out last night and two of my mates had the N5, so I got to play around. Oooooh maaaaaan, what a sexy phone. Very happy with my N4 but also very tempted by an N5 now.

The camera is still not good enough for a flagship phone though which is disappointing.
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Enabled Android RunTime and the % battery indicator on my N5, and gonna organise my new sim card today.
Since enabling ART Whatsapp keeps crashing but that might be because I am only running off wifi and have no cellular network.
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some apps don't like ART. they need to be updated to support it
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some apps don't like ART. they need to be updated to support it

yeah, so far its just whatsapp so i can live with it.
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Kasp, whatsapp really didn't like it when I had no sim either.
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Kasp, whatsapp really didn't like it when I had no sim either.

Ah, might be a combination. Read online that Whatsapp and Chrome don't like ART, Chrome has been fine for me but whatsapp started playing up as soon as i changed over to ART
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you'd think google would've updated all their own shit in time for release with a major new feature in the os
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what is ART?
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what is ART?

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11...uts-in-kitkat/
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update late last month enabled background audio in the youtube app

Anybody? This still isn't working.
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Anybody? This still isn't working.

I think it worked for me the other day when i accidentally locked the screen while using my phone
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Speaking of the Youtube App, why can't I lock my screen and let it run or even run it in the background? I could do with an iPhone so it makes no sense that you can't on Android.
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Anybody? This still isn't working.

hmm might've jumped the gun on that derp, thought it went live in v5.2.2.7 but seems its coming in a future update

yeah fledz they got it with ios7 i think

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I had an iPhone 4 with iOS5 on it and they had it back then. The locking at least.
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Speaking of the Youtube App, why can't I lock my screen and let it run or even run it in the background? I could do with an iPhone so it makes no sense that you can't on Android.

Derp a derp that's what i've been asking about for a page and a half lol

Cheers bgf I'll keep my eyes open.
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yeah the feature is hidden in the current version so i think google are still testing it.. as soon as it's good to go you should see this option in the youtube app settings

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Sick.

So it turns out my microphone issue has resurfaced. Guess it's an intermittent problem. Well, looks like I'll be getting myself a Nexus 5 for Christmas.
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The shit? That must be new, never seen it before BGF.

ed - Damn, not there
Will probably come out with the 4.4 update or just a general app update.
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so batt seems to have improved after updating but i can't get an accurate read because monitoring battery stats requires root now in 4.4..

not running ART yet tho and gonna give GEL a couple days to show up on play before i sideload it

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you'd think google would've updated all their own shit in time for release with a major new feature in the os

ART is not a major feature of kitkat. It's only included so dev's can test/prepare their apps.

So many people whinging about crashes using ART when it's not even ready for the public
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why have it there in a release verison rom then? devs have the SDK to fuck around with that shit
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why have it there in a release verison rom then? devs have the SDK to fuck around with that shit

I don't know. I'm not Google.

It's in developer options and disabled by default so your average user wouldn't normally be stumbling upon it anyway.
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they just released a bugfix 4.4 image *sigh*

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put 4.4 bugfix image on the mrs' N4 last night. easiest rom install i've ever done. It's like google want you to have a good time doing it

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I fucking hate how hangouts separates SMS and hangout convos - it completely negates the whole concept of having both in one app.
Then Google have now combined the Play Magazines and Currents app which seems to have made RSS feeds even harder to use, which was the only reason i used Currents in the first place
why do they keep 'improving' things which only makes it worse
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tbh i like that sms and chats are separate. it's good to know how a message is going to be sent since sms is not unlimited on my plan
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agreed. play newsstand is a bit shit, though currents is still a separate app, which isn't linked. i love currents.
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They could just have a setting where you choose whether to merge the two, and/or specify which type is preferred default - eg send as hangout when possible, or always sms.
Spicy you're right, the app description seemed like they were discontinuing currents and I didn't check my app drawer.
The google now gesture (drag up from bottom of screen) is already shitting me to tears, accidentally fired up Now so many times while scrolling through pages...
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haha yeah it sucks hey. tbh i don't know a single person who uses google now.

can't wait for custom kitkat roms to stabilise so that i can swap the swipey menu for something more useful.
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It's actually pretty decent if you give it a go. Flight details, maps, weather, traffic, and so on.
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well personally none of these are useful to me on a regular basis except train times, which it doesn't have.

e- forgot to add i had another whinge.

new app called 'google play services' is hogging 61% of my battery. i barely get 24h out of it right now. anyone else notice this?

i googled it and looks like everyone on kitkat is having that problem.
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They could just have a setting where you choose whether to merge the two, and/or specify which type is preferred default - eg send as hangout when possible, or always sms.
Spicy you're right, the app description seemed like they were discontinuing currents and I didn't check my app drawer.
The google now gesture (drag up from bottom of screen) is already shitting me to tears, accidentally fired up Now so many times while scrolling through pages...

Is that the same as Google search? On my phone you can disable it in the settings - application sub menu. Had to do it for myself and my brother, it's such a pointless and annoying feature.
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haha yeah it sucks hey. tbh i don't know a single person who uses google now.

can't wait for custom kitkat roms to stabilise so that i can swap the swipey menu for something more useful.

I use google now

Good for the weather, upcoming appointments, location, travel times, stocks to watch.

Google play services isn't a new app. But gnex used to have that problem at one point. Can't remember the fix. Was something way easy
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I don't want to disable Google Now cos I actually use it, I want to disable the swipe gesture cos it's way too easy to accidentally swipe it.
From what I read online you can't disable the swipe gesture unless you completely disable google now
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well personally none of these are useful to me on a regular basis except train times, which it doesn't have.

e- forgot to add i had another whinge.

new app called 'google play services' is hogging 61% of my battery. i barely get 24h out of it right now. anyone else notice this?

i googled it and looks like everyone on kitkat is having that problem.

yep that's happening on the mrs' n4 now.

i thought i'd give cm a go on it last night to see if that was any better. ran the installer from the play store which was an almost painless process, get into the rom & wifi doesn't work. back to stock rom.
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My N4 is still on 4.3 and says it's up to date. I want 4.4

Today I noticed 'Google Services' is taking up the most usage of my battery, but it's only at 28%.
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no google services hogging battery on mine (KRT160).. my back button has been flakey the last day or so though

i left google now on for a day after updating to see if there were new/more cards.. it gave me the traffic report to work (on the weekend) and kept showing the same NBA game score for 3 days. i turned it back off

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Anyone found that hangouts doesn't seem to match up numbers from your phone book? They show up in hangouts as +61 4XX XXX XXX, which seems to prevent hangouts from recognising +614XXXXXXXX or 04XXXXXXXX.
I can manually add the hangout to the contact as another number, but this is a pain in the ass, not to mention it should recognise it as the same number anyway
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back in the gingerbread days i spent like a whole day spergily organising all my contacts in gmail. i've never had a problem with contacts since..

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I don't want to disable Google Now cos I actually use it, I want to disable the swipe gesture cos it's way too easy to accidentally swipe it.
From what I read online you can't disable the swipe gesture unless you completely disable google now

or use a custom rom.

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or use a custom rom.

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