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Ski Japan - where is best?
After doing Whistler 07/08...am really keen for another snowboarding trip but am considering Japan because it is cheaper than Canada and somewhere different.

Seems like there are too many options in Japan though! I know Hokkaido has a few options for good powder but then you have the expense of getting there and apparently it just snows non stop.

The Nagano options I think are Hakuba and Shiga Kogen.

This has been touched on in a few threads but wanted a thread specific.

What are peoples thoughts on best areas for snow in Japan?
What are your experiences of the different resorts?
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You might be interest in this blog from the Herald
http://blogs.smh.com.au/travel/archi...japan_hot.html

The blog's pretty useless but have a look through the comments at the bottom as a lot of people are posting advice on where to ski in Japan.
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I'm going to Niseko in jan...

but apparently it's full of Aussies, but i'm sure it will be 100% better than our snow.
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Niseko is full of Aussies, its weird. And I don't think that it does snow non stop in hokkaido. Sure there are white out days, but not all of them.
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I'm interested in other people's thoughts as well. I'm going skiing in Japan for the first time in January.

The people I'm going with are thinking of going to Hakuba because they've been to Hokkaido resorts and want to try somewhere new. They want to go somewhere with fewer aussies too.
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went to niseko (hokkaido) in january.. you're right, the place is full of aussies and it does snow frequently and the powder is epic. well worth a trip.

it's not horribly exy to get there - you can usually find a cheap jetstar flight to tokyo/osaka and then an internal flight is only $120 each way.
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Im looking to go to niseko late jan but cannot find anywhere cheap to stay. Anyone have any ideas?
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It snows so much in Niseko that you can get fresh tracks at 7 in the evening!!
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I think part of the reason so many australians go to niseko is that there are so many package tours. There are heaps of other places to board in Hokkaido, you can go to to Kiroro, Fus, Tiene, Furano, Iwamizawa, Bankei, Kokusai...

Wait, look here http://www.snowjapan.com/e/resorts/p...cture=Hokkaido
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That blog was pretty useful for some opinions, cheers. id love to do a week in niseko, check out some cities in japan and then head to nagano for some more boarding. whether time or funds allows that is another thing.
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japan is cheap
i did 2.5 weeks in japan including 1 week in niseko for 2.5k all up. everything. food, drinks, lift passes, ski hire, a few soivineers, accom, flights. 2.5k. got $800 jetstar flights and stayed in hostels, but still.. you can do it on the cheap and have a wickid time!!
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I'm planning on heading up there in January/February for some snow & sightseeing. Wanna do about a week of skiing then a week or two of being a tourist.

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just bumping this because I am actually going this year.
problem is i guess that i will be there for first 10 days in december and want to get in 5 or so days of boarding.

what is the best bet this early in the season?
i figure its probably up to niseko...but that means we will have to make domestic flight up there and its time wasted with getting to and from airports etc. if we have to we have to though i guess.
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^Hakuba had about 60cm of snow fall in early december this year. It fell in about a day or two! You may be lucky enough to get in a couple of days, but i wouldnt gamble on taking your gear over.
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I'd be going as far north as possible to get snow in Decemeber.

Hakuba and the surrounds don't really get going til Jan.
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Yea early December is pushing it, even for Niseko.
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Can anyone recommend a good Japan package? Skimax style? I'm looking at you, Tobi. Nah whoever.

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I don't normally do packages, however I was reading about some guy who started his own tour company and does packages to Hak. He's like 24 or something but they seem to be a good deal.

Will get you details when I get home and look in the mag.
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hmmm maybe ill just leave the gear at home and rent if its worth going.
have to keep an eye on the weather though obviously.

there are a few resorts that are open for business in late nov. this must just be the low runs close to the base that use man made snow or something.
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Niseko is the best however there are others!
Hi, we independently review ski resorts throughout the world and particularly focus on finding the best powder skiing destinations.

In Japan, the North Island of Hokkaido has the best quality snow however there are some good resorts in the Nagano area.

Based on our experiece it is hard to go past Niseko as it has the driest and depest powder in Japan with great food and nightlife.


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After doing Whistler 07/08...am really keen for another snowboarding trip but am considering Japan because it is cheaper than Canada and somewhere different.

Seems like there are too many options in Japan though! I know Hokkaido has a few options for good powder but then you have the expense of getting there and apparently it just snows non stop.

The Nagano options I think are Hakuba and Shiga Kogen.

This has been touched on in a few threads but wanted a thread specific.

What are peoples thoughts on best areas for snow in Japan?
What are your experiences of the different resorts?

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I booked Niseko last week!

Can't wait! 10 days
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I had a dream about the first day of the season last night. I cant believe I still have to wait 8 weeks.
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I can't believe it is only 10 weeks until the Northern Winter. Only just returned from skiing in Chile a couple of weeks ago.
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Based on our experiece it is hard to go past Niseko as it has the driest and depest powder in Japan with great food and nightlife.

Do you think Niseko has significantly better snow than other places in Hokkaido? I have only been there a hand full of times, but I have found that cause of the amount of traffic its gets all tracked out and then hard in the afternoons. Granted I have only been there a handful of times, and not on a powder day, always the day after, or the day before.

I have heard that places in the middle of the island are really worth seeing, Asahidake and around Furano. I really should make the effort to get there this season.
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Less than a month till snow season!
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cant wait! Am heading to Niseko for the first time - white xmas!!
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Christmas? Not peak time but it will still be really awesome, spesh compared to Australia.

First snow in town this morning. I'm so excited I didn't even verb!
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Not peak time for snow or tourists?
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yea was checking out the snow cams today, lookin good
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Wow, I was just coming here to post this.
It's sapporo kokusai skijo. It was the best place for riding for people living in Sapporo with it's combo of closeness, long runs, and snow quality, but apparently the tunnel getting there is damaged so the bus will have to go a long way and take like two hours from now.

So Kiroro will be easier to get too, and the snow is better there, but its more exposed and often half the mountain is closed if its windy, and there is a flat patch in the middle which is not so fun for boarders, spesh on powder days cause you run a bit slower, and if your teaching a newb on a powder day and you dont know the flat bit is coming you maybe theoretically have to hike a lot. Not that I would know, cause I am awesome and never get into situations like that.

Oh, and I meant peak for snow, but maybe both. The best snow is in Jan and early Feb. But there is still gonna be lots of awesome snow in Dec.
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loving the webcams most resorts are looking nice and white on hokkaido.
supposed to be another warm spell though so it will melt away til the next cold snap, which hopefully doesnt end!
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The snows great anywhere...go to Nagano where they had the Winter Olympics!
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Whats Nagano got going for it? I was talking to a mate about going there the other day, and he didn't seem that enthused. He has moved to Tokyo and prefers taking snowboarding trips to Hokkaido. It's not that convenient for Tokyo, but I don't know if its actually any better or worse than Hokkaido.
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So I got a quote through a ski tour co. which I realise may not have been the cheapest way to do it, but I'd rather pay the extra $500 or whatever it works out to, to prevent me wandering around Tokyo dragging my snowboard bag. So I thought I'd get people's thoughts on the package.

- Return flights Perth-Tokyo w/ Malaysian Airlines
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- 7 nights accom in 3.5* western style hotel
- 7 days lift tix
- 4 nights accom in Tokyo

approx. $2600 + approx $480 tax

There were a few different options for staying in lodges rather than hotels, but overall is that a fair price? Without having shopped around, I was pretty happy with it tbh. Just putting it out there for comment.

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Korupt ...

Im flying out from perth too, and my bf (who lives in tokyo) and I tried to get one of the Japanese travel agencies to book everything for us (as apparently it is supposed to be cheaper that way). I got return flights with MA as well, for a grand, and then the ski/hire/flights/accom/lift passes will cost max 1000-1200, so you didnt do too badly. All up im paying 2200. I remember trying to sort out a deal similar to one that you had, and some stooge quoted me 5 grand!!!

Out of curiousity, when are you headed over to Japan?
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^thanks!

Looking at late Jan / early Feb. Agent said the dates are pretty flexible so will see what happens with leave.

Yeah just reading that quote again, that price includes breaky each day, some mountain hosting and all transfers, so I'm pretty happy I think. Next time, with experience & knowledge I'll book it all myself I think

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I think thats better in many ways than the people who do similar packages in Niseko. They just fly in get airlifted past Japan straight to little Australia town. I think the opportunity of spending some time seeing the country too is def worth it.
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^ I coudnt agree anymore. Def need to spend time in Tokyo or other parts of Japan. I spent two weeks in Hakuba in 08, quality snow. The people were so friendly. There is not a massive nightlife, however you can still get your can on at some nice restaurants and bars. Really had an awesome time, however the best was def the 4 or so days i spent in Tokyo. That city is amazing and i cant wait to go back in March
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Oh i love Tokyo. Second time Im visiting this year (but this time im seeing places outside of Tokyo, not just Tokyo itself). Couldnt live there, but the city is incredible compared to country-town Perth

Has anyone here been to Nikko or Kyoto during the winter?

Korupt -- if you go in feb, you can go to the snow festival in Sopporo
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Yea i was in Kyoto in Jan this year after the snow, highly recommend it!

I love Japan!! Spent 3 weeks there in Jan just gone, all cities were great

Unfortunately this Jan it's a snow trip only with only 2 days in Tokyo Spewing i'm not there on a weekend to go to WOMB!
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How far is Kyoto from Tokyo...? Day trip or overnighter?

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It takes less than 2 hours on the bullet train, but the fastest bullet train can't be taken with an overseas visitor rail pass, and is kinda expensive. There is an overnight bus but I wouldn't reccomend it if you don't have much time.


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^^^ thats awesome! Where from? The snow fest?

I think you'd struggle to do kyoto on a day trip ... we are heading there for two days.

Re: womb. I cant wait to go there! We are spending NYE in Ageha, but I am desperate to try to dnb nights at Unit and Womb (which will hopefully be on while I am there)
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hmm p'raps with my 4 nights I should just concentrate on Tokyo & do Kyoto another time...

fkn sweet album 'bliv. some of those snow sculptures are rad.

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i spent 3 nights in Kyoto, so much to do that a day trip is no where near enough.


I spent NYE just gone at WOMB. was one fucking crazy experience!
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yeah womb has jeff mills headlining this nye, not sure if i will like the whole techno vibe tho ...
are many shops/clubs etc closed leading up nye/just after nye?
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fkn sweet album 'bliv. some of those snow sculptures are rad.

I didn't realise people could see the whole album, but thankfully there is nothing in there more incriminating that people sleeping at karoke.

Yeah, all the snow sculptures are cool except ours, which I take no reasponsability for.
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I’m now fully booked and paid for 7 days in Furano, staying right on the mountain. Followed by 3 days in Tokyo

Womb is on the cards as we’ll be there during the weekend.
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